Gorgeous: Cubs 5, Pirates 1
That title describes both the day's weather -- beautiful, sunny, with the wind blowing in (and that was important, as at least two or three fly balls hit by Pirates today off Ted Lilly would have been on the street on most other days), and the baseball played by the Cubs, in another solidly played win, 5-1 over the Pirates this afternoon.
This truly has been a team effort all season long -- no one's really having a monster career year, but everyone is contributing. Today it was Reed Johnson's turn -- he had three hits, two runs scored and a stolen base. Since the All-Star break Johnson is hitting .452/.500/.742 in 31 at-bats -- obviously, he's not going to keep up that pace the rest of the season, but the Cubs have an excellent platoon arrangement in center field, and Lou has been able to rest other starters (today, Kosuke Fukudome didn't start, but pinch-hit and singled in the 8th inning).
This, for those of you too young to remember, is what didn't happen in 1969 -- the '69 team, which was 69-41 (with one tie game) after this point, 111 games played in that year, was ridden till it collapsed from exhaustion in early September, because Leo Durocher simply didn't have bench players he could trust (or, depending on what you believe, didn't choose to trust in them). Lou Piniella has an excellent bench and bullpen and is using them wisely. That will keep D-Lee and A-Ram and Geo and Alfonso Soriano, fresh for the stretch run, and, we hope, the postseason.
Ted Lilly didn't start off very well in this game. In the second inning he walked two and allowed Pirates pitcher Paul Maholm to dribble a single to deep short that Ryan Theriot couldn't handle (I would have scored it an error, but it wasn't), allowing the Pirates' only run to score. I wasn't counting pitches but it had to be a huge pitch count early, as the scoreboard on the upper deck showed 80 pitches in the fourth inning. But darned if Lilly didn't settle down and mow through the Pirates in the fifth and sixth, and finally had to be removed with one out in the seventh, to a warm ovation. The final pitch count of 111 included 70 strikes, and no further walks after that second inning.
Meanwhile, the Cubs were putting together one of their most efficient offensive displays of the season. In all three of their scoring innings (2nd, 4th and 5th) they got the leadoff man on base and scored him -- and twice got the first TWO runners on and scored both of them. Even D-Lee's 22nd DP ball of the year had a positive aspect, as it came with nobody out and a runner on third, so it scored the fourth Cub run of the game. Geovany Soto drove in two runs and now has sixty RBI. The CF message board indicated that Soto's 17 HR are the most for a rookie catcher since Mike Piazza hit 35 in 1993.
We all cringed when Bob Howry came in to throw the 8th, and as he did on Thursday in Milwaukee, he was a bit shaky, allowing two hits; but he got out of it with a foul popup, and Carlos Marmol threw perhaps too many pitches (22) in a non-save situation, meaning if a closer is needed tomorrow, it'll probably be Jeff Samardzija.
There was a large bachelorette party seated in front of us. One of them had some sort of novelty "challenge" book, things that the bride-to-be is supposedly supposed to do during the party time. One of the "challenges" was to kiss a man with a mustache. No, it wasn't me! (I've got a goatee, not a mustache.) PHIL was the designated kissee; he was a good sport about the smooch, which was done to general laughter from section 301.
And we are all in that sort of mood. Happy, laughing, smiling. May it continue for three more months.
Finally, a bit more humor. Here is the top of the scorecard from the current series, which appears to indicate that the Cubs had played over 2300 games vs. the Pirates in the last 15 years:

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Wow. I know the Cubs had played the Pirates a lot earlier this year, but I didn't know it was that many times. (And no, the home record isn't 467-4; that's just where my scan cut off.) Enjoy the evening; go Braves, go Phillies.
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Must have been a good game, sorry I missed it
FURST I guess
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe no one is having a career year on offense
But clearly Ryan Dempster is having a career year in the rotation, not to mention what we’ve received so far from Harden.
Some people have 3 layers, like pie.
by berselius on Aug 2, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And even without career years on offense...
... the Cubs are leading the league in runs scored. That’s impressive.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Soriano is playing phenomenal offensively
He has 18 home runs this year, with missing more than A MONTH of play. That’s something else.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs record with him starting is phenomenal
even on the road….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say one guy is having a career year on offense...
Ryan Theriot is currently producing at a level above even his best years in the minor leagues. He just doesn’t hit for power.
by SouthernCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need him to hit for any power...
Just keep gettting singles, and playing solid D. Just wish his arm would get stronger somehow.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually a solid balanced attack
this appears to be a Lou day, scoring on the outs from 3rd, I see a sac fly, a score on a DP and a score on a FO…..3 runs without a hit…..Cubs won 5-1….tomorrow the ace horse named Break-Over-Thy-Knee pitches.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more impressive is the differentials
Cubs are no slouch in giving up runs and as Harden’s starts accumulate they will reduce the runs per game as well. Piniella & Co still need to rest Lee and Ramirez….good to see Fukudome rested and Cedeno given a few starts.
We will need Howry as September creeps toward us. That said it will be interesting to see how the the Cubs manage their active roster as Wood heals and Lieber works his way back.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This year's club...
...really proves the importance of having a balanced offensive attack. Hendry had a tendency to put together one dimensional lineups, and I think Lou’s influence has been a real positive in this area.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 3, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Marquis is the Sean Estes of this year's rotation...
Otherwise the other 4 are great, even Lilly has 11 wins, with only 6 losses.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not even close
Marquis is far better than Estes was. Estes’ only shining moment was that complete-game shutout he threw down the stretch in Cincinnati in 2003.
If you’re saying Marquis is to this rotation the equivalent of what Estes was to the ‘03 rotation, that’s one thing. But I’d much rather have Marquis ‘08 than Estes ‘03.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 2, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with both your statements.
He’s the rotation equivalent… and he’s also better.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're a true diplomat, Al
And you’re absolutely correct. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 2, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's are really struggling against the Yankees this series
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant game... not series.... I shouldnt multi tast
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The A's have been in a free fall
since unloading Harden, Guadin and Blanton. Makes sense, but still must be frustrating for the fans.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Aug 2, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-8 in the last 10 games
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallagher's still playing good over there
He has a 3.22 ERA since he’s been with them in 12 IP. He’s gonna be a force next year.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, 22.1 IP is what I meant
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's great to hear.
I’m so glad he’s getting to play and doing well.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees are playing the Angels
Oakland is playing Boston.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 2, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh... your right
I should lurk when I am involved organizing somehting.. not post.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braves up 1-0, going to top of 6th.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing.
I wouldn’t have given the Braves a chance today, given the pitching matchup. Hang in there Braves!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither, but let's hope this goes against the norm.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brew Crew down to 9 more outs being shutout
after scoring 9 yesterday
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone seen the FOX commerical for October?
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome's game tying HR
and Big Z staring down?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black cat walking thru the commerical... and how they is no ruin for curses in post season
part of the ocmmerical. ” grrr”
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curses are not real. It's made up crap to make people feel better.
It’s also a way for Fox/MLB to market the game. It makes for good hype.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preaching to the choir
the curse I expected….... but the black cat going across the screen. bit overkill
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Fox for ya...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could have been worse
could have been a goat
Old Style is the nectar of life.
by Mordecai on Aug 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al,
the ball to Theriot in the 2nd inning was a slicer, that hit right on the lip of the outfield grass, it would have been a tough error to hang on him. I doubt he could have thrown him out anyway.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One on, no out, bottom of six, Braves: 1, Suds: zero.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Abreu with a homer, 5-2 Yankees.
The Angels might lose for once in this season.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Try Jose Molina
His first of the year.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 2, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
Well he did have a homer earlier to make 4-2.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to top of 7th. Braves up 1-0 over Brewers.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox getting hit up.
losing 8-5 to KC.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually 8-3 KC over Sox, bottom of 5.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His name is Prince and he is chunky.
Fielder with a HR, 1-1, top of seven.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Brewers
Stupid Fat Guy
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all that weight violently jostling around in his swing...
...I always think somewhere in the universe a black hole just ripped open.
"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"
by NightPutting on Aug 2, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I wonder...
...if Fielder and Sabathia collide on a play at first, we might just discover that pesky dark matter…
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 2, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, not throwing fits today, I see
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing fits? Don't get it.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I get it. Fielder threw a fit the other day. Sorry.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries. :)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I missed the end of the game,
sounds like it was fun. :)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2-1 Brewers, bottom of 7th.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sabathia pitching another incredible game
7 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 8 SO
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he goes out for the 8th, Yost is an idiot.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many pitches?
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 85 pitches
He’ll be out for the eighth. It would be stupid not to.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 2, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yost has a bit of a Dusty in him
I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Sabathia go back out with 100.
by AceCubbie on Aug 2, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yost is going to ride Sabathia until his arm falls off.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
85 pitches
is not a lot.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 2, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Particularly for a dude who routinely throws over 100
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
I’m talking about the cumulative pitches thrown since he got to Milwaukee…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Ned Flanders is going to burn out CC’s arm if he’s not careful. And don’t think Sabathia won’t remember how he was handled when it comes to the offseason.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 2, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there's about zero chance of CC pitching for the Brewers next year
so I don’t think what Sabiahia does or doesn’t remember is going to matter. As long as the Brewers are close, CC is going to take the ball every 5th day with the expectation of throwing a complete game. He’s enough of a horse that he could come out of it relatively unscathed. I would think though, that CC’s agent is keeping a close eye on the situation, and rightfully so. That’s what agents are for.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 2, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
Sabathia just wants to compete so he’ll gladly take the ball. His agent, on the other hand…..
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 2, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how'd you like to be an opposing gm
and see sabathia consistently put miles on the arm under the watchful eye of ned yost? buyer beware.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did You Do The Game Streaming Today, Trey?
You’re the guy that works for the Buccos, right?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 2, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually in Indianapolis
so I get to watch the AAA team a fair deal. it’s actually where i’m at right now. so if anyone wants the low-down on the International League’s second-worst team, i can provide details all night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-1 Brewers now.
The chunky one with another HR.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendry for Exec of the Year
What would this team be if he hadn’t grabbed Johnson and Edmonds from the scrap heap?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 2, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not where they are now.
Not with Pie’s AAA bat in the line-up. ED & RJ have won many important games for the Cubs this year.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
50 plus games still to go
A lot can happen good and bad
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 2, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But he certainly has to be in the discussion.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 2, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
Also to make those more important they helped us weather the loss of Soriano.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 2, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
The Harden/Gaudin answer to Sabathia was money too
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't really an "answer"
They didn’t retaliate to the Sabathia trade. They were gunning for a SP for a while, and they were in talks with Beane way before the Sabathia trade went through. When he was dealt to Milwaukee, Harden seemed to be the top of their list.
I like Harden better, to tell you the truth. Not only do the Cubs have a better chance of keeping him next year in comparison of Sabathia staying in Milwaukee next year, but the Cubs also got Gaudin, who is a stud.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 2, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Harden better as well
b/c he’s what we needed. Mil needed a “horse” to eat up innings and take them places. We’ve got that already. We needed a guy to be Z’s wingman.
And we got Gaudin. Who I am VERY impressed with.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on Gaudin.
A real steal by Hendry, IMO. He could even be in the starter mix next year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know some dont agree with me
and thats fine but if i’m the gm of this ballclub I DFA marquis when lieber comes back and and give gaudin a shot at being a regular starter.
from the mouth of Uecker:
"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."
by cubsluver22 on Aug 3, 2008 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, thanks.
Gaudin is key to the bullpen right now – especially with Howry continuing to look, shall we say, uncertain. Previously, I wanted Marshall in the No. 5 spot in the rotation, but I like him backing up Harden.
All in all, I’m very comfortable with Lou leaving things just as they are. Marquis’ faults as a pitcher are well-documented, but he’s an adequate No. 5.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 3, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't disagree....
...I think he and Lou make a great pair of complimentary minds. Hendry has a very good reputation with both GM’s and players and this allows him to make deals and sign guys. Lou’s knowledge of what he needs to win, is exactly what Hendry needed to get over the top.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 3, 2008 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From here on
The object should be to win series, minimize any losing series, and completely avoid getting swept. If we do that, we won’t need to worry about what Brewers or Cardinals do.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 2, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like last year.
The team that can avoid a 3 game or longer losing streak, will win the division
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabathia is out. Now the Braves can come back and win this game.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Solomon Torres the Headhunter is in for the Suds.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Brewers won.
They’re still 4 back though. They’ll lose tomorrow, and the Cubs will win- it’ll be back to 5.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right.
Tomorrow they have Sheets vs. Campillo.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets is gonna wilt in the Atlanta heat.
and the Braves are due for a breakout.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or so Ned Yost would have us believe...
``At the end, (Sheets) started to wear out,’’ Yost offered. ``Where this heat and humidity came from, I have no idea, because it wasn’t there during (batting practice).’‘
Gotta hand it to Neddy, he is creative…
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
by Goodie1969 on Aug 2, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waidaminit.
Yost was surprised to find heat and humidity in Atlanta? How many years did he coach there under Bobby Cox?
Wow. Just wow.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campillo
hasn’t been too bad as a starter. though i’d definitely agree that on paper, the Brewers have an advantage
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
This is the beauty of being in first. As long as we continue to win consistently, its going to be very difficult for anyone to catch up.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent point
always better to be chased than to be chasing.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't get me wrong though
i’d love us to be up by 10 instead…
but i think as long as we can play consistently… we’ll be fine.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point
consistency will win the division. though a long winning streak would be nice.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox are coming back. 2 on, 1 out, top of 8th. El Magico up to bat.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I gotta go.
Gonna go see the boss, (he just got out of the hospital), and maybe go see Dark Knight tonight- if he’s feeling well enough. Have a good night everybody, see ya tomorrow for another Cubs win.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 2, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
have a good one, jimmy
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hope the boss feels better!
have a good one!!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers tie club record with 9 road wins in a row.
Time for that old adage, “the law of averages” to catch up with them. Even if they play .500 road ball for a while that would be impressive.
Of course this makes up for the beat down (2-5) they took at home the last time they were at Miller Park.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Aug 2, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they went 1-6
at home. 2 losses to the Astros and then the sweep by the Cubs.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The goofiness has offiicially begun
The goofiness in a good way officially has begun.
WGN radio has a video of their personalities lip synching to Go Cubs Go on You Tube.
The place is really rocking. you can feel the energy in the place.
took someone to their first game ever today. It’s a friend who happened to be at our house when my brother called to say he couldn’t go at last minute. I said “Jim you want to go?”
He went and had a blast. He’s the friend I mentioned theother day in a game thread who said that he isn’t a baseball fan but is enjoying the joy this season has brought to his Cub loving friends.
I love watching people walk up the ramp and steps to the field and their reaction. All he said was “WOW!”
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 2, 2008 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is SO awesome!
What a great day for a first Wrigley experience too.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
philadelphia up early, 1-0
see if they can’t get a few more off of braden looper
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by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's get another
win tomorrow…..who’s up for it?
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Aug 2, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't complain
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me neither
lets go z!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
snell has been struggling big time
though his last start was better. i’ll take my chances with zambrano versus him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cue a nervous nelly on z's last pitch count
in 3…2…
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with the pirates...
z should be able to keep the pitch count relatively low.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
just everytime Z goes you get someone claiming to be worried about him. It wears on you.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, Ken Griffey Jr. left tonight's Sox game...
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had him going more than 1 1/2 games though
so sad.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad?
I mean – yes, sad! So very sad! In no way shape or form is this hillarious!
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't wish injuries on anyone
but i agree. seriously. wth were the sox thinking? “lets put the worst defensive OF together possible!”
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've got to hand it to kenny williams
for getting the center fielder he wanted. just 6 years too late.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Williams’ statement that “CF is the easiest OF position to play, healthwise”, obviously never took into account all the injuries Griffey suffered while he was a regular CF.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 2, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't understand
how having to play gap-to-gap somehow makes center field the easiest of the positions to play. especially when your corner outfielders aren’t exactly known for their defense.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The theory is that the "starting and stopping"...
...a player does when he gets close to one of the several walls he’s near adds extra wear and tear.
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, it's a theory.
but in griffey’s case, it wouldn’t make sense to have moved him from center in the first place then.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest difference between center field...
...and the corner outfield spots is the amount of ground you have to cover, and thus the amount of plays you have to make. If you look at players who play both center and the corners in a season, their zone rating seems to be very consistent between positions.
So you move Griffey from center to right because he’s a godawful fielder (now) and you cut down on the number of plays he can botch.
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that makes sense.
so would you say, then, that putting griffey in right, even as his defensive effectiveness continued to worsen, was a bad move by cincinnati?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The past several seasons, the only position Griffey has been fit to play...
...has probably been DH. (Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe first base.) Putting him in right field was an improvement, in the same way that sawing the leg off is an improvement over losing the whole patient. I wouldn’t call either of them good in an objective sense, especially if there’s an alternative.
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, then, the sox would be best served by him playing dh.
but since that’s occupied, they’re really putting themselves between a rock and a hard place, i would take it.
thanks for the explanation, by the way. the zone rating-stuff has always been interesting to me.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What it comes down to is whether or not you think...
...that Paul Konerko is Jim Edmonds done or Andruw Jones done. If you think that he’s just gone through a rough patch but is physically alright, then really this was probably the most pointless and self-defeating trade I can think of off the top of my head.
If Konerko is truly finished and washed up (which, to be frank, I seriously doubt) then the thing to do would be to see how much Jim Thome at first base you’re willing to eat.
by cwyers on Aug 2, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
basically seems like kenny williams
was fulfilling his ken griffey fantasies from years past, at the expense of the team, to a certain extent.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The trade seems completely pointless, unless you’re just trying to put a few butts (who don’t understand that Griffey is mostly done and are simply reacting to a famous name) in the seats.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The conventional wisdom
is that CF is easiest because the fielder gets the best look at the pitch location and direction of the ball off the bat. While true, having a gimpy old guy in that position sort of negates the benefits of the view. Especially when, as you say, his corner compatriots are not likely to take up much of the slack.
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
by Goodie1969 on Aug 2, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even understand what the hell he was talking about
when he said that. If you have to go more to your left and your right and you are the captain of the outfield, how the hell is it not the hardest to play, healthwise?
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by Unique on Aug 2, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the easiest...
...in regards to judging balls off the bat, but it sure isn’t the easiest if you don’t have healthy wheels.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 3, 2008 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im surprised he dove for the ball like that
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 2, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm a terrible fan
but I just finished watching “This Old Cub” for the first time. I’m not old enough to have ever seen Ron play but that was a really good movie.
by BradB311 on Aug 2, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is very good.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Aug 2, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it did me too
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Aug 3, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny you should mention
I just put that at the top of my Netflix queue today. Glad to know it’s as good as it appeared to be.
by Emelie on Aug 3, 2008 5:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a review of "This Old Cub" somewhere in the archive here.
You can search the site for it. I agree; it’s terrific.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo
Of course, he was playing before the superstation WGN era. He, along with Banks and Billy Williams, have to be the most beloved former Cubs still alive. With what he did with the bat and glove battling diabetes, he should be in the Hall. I don’t remember his playing. I was just a baby, when he retired. “This Old Cub” really shed a lot of light on why he is so respected for the “young” and “kinda young, kinda middle-aged” fans.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Aug 3, 2008 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2300 games
... I’m guessing that dates to 1893, not 1993?
by ChipSet on Aug 2, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
either that or
they need to remove a zero from that.
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by Unique on Aug 2, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it said 1,125 - 1,192
which is where Al got the “over 2,300” figure. Exact total 2,317 (2,319 including yesterday and today).
by ChipSet on Aug 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
But 1893 still wouldn’t be correct. According to baseball reference—the Pirates had a 1192 to 1125 lead on the Cubs (before August 1, 2008) dating back to 1887.
So I don’t know where the 93 came from. A complete error.
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by Unique on Aug 2, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking about this for a second...
... it came to me. The “1993” was probably left over in their template from the Marlins series, since the Marlins DID start in 1993. They changed everything else, just forgot to change the date.
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by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ding ding ding
It’s pretty amazing to have rivalries that date back 100 years or more of continuous competition… not only against the Pirates, but also the Dodgers, Cardinals, Giants, Braves, Reds, and Phillies.
But we got some catchin’ up to do against the Pirates, eh.
by ChipSet on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, philadelphia.
back to a 5-game lead over STL.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love Philly...for now!

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
by Goodie1969 on Aug 2, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
until later this month...
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
because I was helping my sister and brother-in-law move in to their new house in Lake Forest, I wasn’t able to be on the game thread, but w00t! Go Cubs!
Laura’s having another surgery tomorrow at some point, so I don’t know if I’ll be in the thread tomorrow either. Let’s get another win for her.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 2, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best wishes, Drew! Lots of luck to Laura.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 2, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hope everything goes smoothly!!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 2, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best to both of you.
Hope all goes well and that you can get back to the bleachers soon.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a Get Well Soon Vibe for Laura
how fortunate she is to have a supportive husband by her side!
by Emelie on Aug 3, 2008 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Laura
the best of luck and take care of yourself Drew.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Aug 3, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run scored on DP
Was that really DLee? Wasn’t it ONEDEC?
by ChipSet on Aug 2, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cedeno hit into a DP that netted a run
And yes, Derrek McGriff Lee did hit into another DP today.
by MDBNIU on Aug 2, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that was ONEDEC's DP that scored a run.
Got my DP’s mixed up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how we spell his name in this context
A guess all in all bringing in a run (can’t say “RBI”) outweighs the GIDP. Surely better than a one-out atbat that doesn’t bring in a run.
by ChipSet on Aug 3, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Clement got released
here’s the link
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by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Always a big fan of Matt Clement
I was sad the day he left the Cubs. But obviously the subsequent journey to Boston and St. Louis was injury wracked and a nightmare. St. Louis releasing him says to me he doesn’t have much of a major league future left.
by MDBNIU on Aug 2, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
I really liked the guy. I liked his chain hair also. A good ballplayer. Very sad.
by zevkalman on Aug 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like "chain hair" better.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen
Fine win today. That said I sure wish Jim Hendry was able to find another quality bullpen piece. Thank God for Chad Gaudin at least. Jeff Spellcheck is more lab experiment than something to seriously count upon at this stage. Neal Cotts has generally done the job but I don’t trust him. Sean Marshall has been pretty good, but I’m not confident in his ability to be a reliable day-to-day option. Scott Eyre is terrible and simply counting down the days until he is DFA’d when Kerry Wood returns. Bob Howry is forever a lit match inches away from a gas can. Michael Wuertz lost his slider. Kevin Hart turned back into the pumpkin he was before he had a nice one month stretch in 2007. Jon Lieber has been banished to the DL with phony ailment because the experiment of putting him in the pen didn’t work particularly well.
Then that brings us to Kerry Wood. What can we legitimately expect from Wood when he returns? Is he going to be there and effective when the playoff chase gets magma-hot in a few weeks and in the playoffs should we get there?
Things are going well for the the Cubs, but yeah the bullpen concerns me. A lot actually.
by MDBNIU on Aug 2, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed Eyre is done.
Jeff Spellcheck is clasic.
I honeslty believe Liebers injury is not a fake, IMO, he is just a fat 35+ year old guy, that is well 35+ years old and fat.
His career stats are going to look like Steven Stones. An OK pitcher than had 1 great season and won the CY. Although I wiill consider Lieber a better pitcher 30-40 years from now.
(and I hate Steve Stone—-please ignore this mesage)
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Aug 2, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and by Cy
I meant 20 gamme winner.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Aug 2, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Spellcheck is stolen from somebody else
by MDBNIU on Aug 2, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Wood comes back he should be just fine.
His injury has nothing to do with his shoulder or elbow.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 3, 2008 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
enjoy your evening, guys and gals.
just got done running the gameday computer for the indianapolis indians, so i figured i’d grab some sleep before coming back here tomorrow. talk to you guys then.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 2, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A good laugh
I went to the game yesterday. Got there with my two boys early for BP.
There was a middle aged guy there for BP in CF that brought his glove. I always tend to look twice a middle aged guys with gloves at baseball games. He was obviously there to catch HRs. He was standing up the entire time and tracking the balls, but at one point wasn’t paying attention and was talking to the guy next to him when one got hit right at him. He kept talking until the ball hit him SQUARE in the head and bounced back onto the field. Knocked him right onto his butt. He spilled his beer… :)
by Archie on Aug 2, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody over the age of 18 with a glove is weird
I’ve seen grown men step over women and children to get a baseball. AND KEEP IT FOR THEMSELVES. Sorry, but that is strange. Stay the frick in your own space and let the kids be the one diving over others for the ball. And if you catch a ball then flip it to a kid.
by MDBNIU on Aug 2, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Grown men should not be doing stuff like that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 2, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, minor quibble
D-Lee’s DP grounder was in the first.
Cedeno’s DP scored the run.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 2, 2008 11:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers Starting Pitching
Knowing the brilliance of Ned Yost, and how weak the Brewers 4 & 5 starters are, don’t be surprised if by the beginning of September, or sooner, they go to a 4 man rotation, IMO. That’s if the Cardinals stick around and the Brewers aren’t pulling away in the Wild Card race. I love Ned Yost, who comes from the Dusty Baker school of arm management.
Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Aug 2, 2008 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Four man rotations
are a good idea except . . .
What you have to do, in theory, is limit your starters to 75-80 pitches. That means pulling them in the fifth inning sometimes, often before they qualify for a win. And then, you need to have the bullpen that can finish out the game, which the Brewers clearly do not.
I’m betting that’s not what Yost is going to do. If he even goes to a four man rotation at all.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 3, 2008 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way they're riding Sheets and Sabathia
He just might . . .
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 3, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta have the right personnel to pull off the 4 man rotation
You need 4 horses like Z or Sabathia, who have no problem going 100+ each time. You can’t really do it with young guys or really fragile ones (Sheets)
Some people have 3 layers, like pie.
by berselius on Aug 3, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cubs
a team effort is what it takes to win.2 or 3 good players dont get you anywhere.right sammy????no fault of mr sosa,s but everyone has to pitch in.if samardzjia and gaudin kick in and marmol can close we,ll be all right.still 2 more nail biting months to go.only time will tell if we can hold off the brewers/cards.brewers seem to have recovered very well from their cub spanking.
by NOMAR on Aug 3, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two things...
1 – Did you type this on a Blackberry? Yikes.
2 – About the Brewers… the Braves are AWFUL. The Suds are basically playing the RICHMOND Braves, not the Atlanta Braves, due to the injuries the big league club has sustained.
Just sayin’...
by Slim1256 on Aug 3, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New York Times on Mark Cuban
Today’s NYT sports section ran a story on Mark Cuban’s bid for the Cubs. Can’t say I was too keen to read this:
Imagine what his rivals or the sitting Major League Baseball owners thought when they heard him respond to Patrick’s line of questioning about whether pursuing the Cubs was like chasing the girl who’s "expensive and you may not have a shot at her."
Cuban: "If there’s a hooker you want, it all comes down to price, right? And I think that’s a better analogy."
Patrick: "So the Cubs are your hooker?"
Cuban: "Well, yes, bad choice of words."
by Emelie on Aug 3, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoops shoulda looked at the fan posts first
Never mind
by Emelie on Aug 3, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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