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The Harden They Come, The Harden They Fall: Cubs 5, Reds 0

In a season filled with superlatives, Rich Harden almost gave the Cubs a memory to savor forever. On the 39th anniversary of Kenny Holtzman's no-hitter vs. the Braves at Wrigley Field, Harden had good enough stuff to throw one -- mowing the Reds down easily, retiring the first ten batters he faced before Jeff Keppinger lined a single to center to break up any mid-game thoughts of perfection.

Harden finished with two hits allowed and ten strikeouts in seven outstanding innings, and the Cubs dispatched the Reds efficiently 5-0, increasing their division lead to its largest of the season, six games, when the Brewers lost to the Astros in Milwaukee last night.

Harden, who told Lou he'd rather throw at night in cooler conditions -- presumably he's used to that from growing up in British Columbia and pitching in Oakland -- was pushed back to this series from the humidity in Florida, and got his wish. It was Septembrish-cool at Wrigley last night, with the wind blowing in and the ball not carrying at all. And Harden's 94 pitches averaged just over four pitches per batter (comparison point: he threw 92 pitches in five innings in Atlanta, 94 in seven last night). It was the second time in his seven Cub starts that he walked no one, and the fourth time he struck out ten. The only other hit off Harden was a sixth-inning single by Reds rookie Chris Dickerson (it's weird seeing the Reds without Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr. -- those two had been Reds teammates for nearly seven years), and Kerry Wood allowed one more single in a non-save situation in the 9th.

Meanwhile, the Reds' Johnny Cueto was also throwing a nice game, thanks in part to some really questionable baserunning by Cubs. In the third, Mark DeRosa led off with a double. Harden failed to advance him via bunt, and then, inexplicably, DeRosa got caught off second base on a routine ground ball to short. Alfonso Soriano was safe on that grounder, but he promptly got picked off, his second pick in as many games. Two innings later, Harden made up for his poor third-inning bunt by laying down an excellent safety squeeze following a Geovany Soto triple and walk to Kosuke Fukudome. Soto waited till Reds 3B Edwin Encarnacion committed to throwing to first, then broke for the plate and scored when Joey Votto's throw home was off line, giving the Cubs a 1-0 lead.

With Harden, Wood and Carlos Marmol, who threw the 8th (and probably could have thrown the 9th, too, getting out of the 8th with only 11 pitches), throwing as well as they were, one run would have been enough; but the Cubs tacked on four more in the 8th after Cueto was pulled for a pinch-hitter. Dusty Baker did something so familiar to all of us, yanking reliever after reliever, playing "the book" in switching off pitchers for supposed platoon advantage, yet none of it worked. The two biggest blows in the inning were a rocket double down the line by Aramis Ramirez, and then after an intentional pass to Soto, Fukudome singled in the final two runs.

When Marmol was facing Corey Patterson, I said to Mike, "This is one of the biggest pitcher-batter mismatches you'll see all year." Mike, who waited years before he caught a HR in the bleachers, got his first in 2004, a Patterson shot in the 12th inning of this game on September 7, said that Patterson would probably prove me wrong by hitting one. Wrong, at least in this miserable year for Patterson -- Marmol struck him out on a nasty slider.

For Harden's part, I'm happy to say that those who wanted him here were right -- he appears to be keeping healthy, and some of the reasons can be found in Gordon Wittenmyer's article in today's Sun-Times. The Cub staff is doing everything right, I think, in managing Harden's workload and preparation so he stays that way.

The Cubs are 29 games over .500. The next milestone is 32 games over .500, last reached on September 2, 1969 -- that's the most games over .500 since 1945. Yes, it has been a long litany of failure. But this year is erasing many numbers from the past. May it continue deep into October.

Go Geo Go!
Geovany Soto triples in the fifth inning

Perfect bunt!
Rich Harden lays down a bunt in the fifth inning...

Safe!
... scoring Soto from third

Sometimes he looks REALLY bad
Kosuke Fukudome nearly screwing himself into the ground swinging and missing in the 8th. He later singled in two runs in this at-bat

Cubs win!
New on the scoreboard last night...

Cubs win!
... the words to "Go Cubs Go"!

Click on photos to open a larger version in a new browser window. All photos by David Sameshima. More photos of last night's game by BCB reader Damen Jackson can be found here.

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Go Cubs Go!

I’m starting to get more and more excited, incrementally, with each passing game. This is gonna be big.

Keep rollin’!

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Good name for it

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should get a deal going...

…where everyone in the stands spins around when Kosuke corkscrews….

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's akin

to the wave. Synchronized fan activity at Wrigley doesn’t seem to catch on very often. Plus, that would almost be like cheering for Kosuke’s strikeouts

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of positives

Lee drove the ball well his last three AB’s, Soto’s baserunning was great, and the 8th was exactly how it’s supposed to work — the big boppers get the runs home after the table was set. Fukudome had a couple of good AB’s, including the 8th — when he did NOT strike out as the caption says — he hit a 2-run single.

Harden was fantastic, too.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Didn't get to watch the game,

only the highlights, but Harden’s pitches looked electric last night. He was blowing fastball after fastball by the Reds’ hitters, it was fun to watch

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's one of the best games I've seen pitched by a Cub in many years.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting

to watch Harden on live TV (other than just highlights on Baseball Tonight). Seems that none of his games are on WGN (or ESPN/Fox) for those of us outside IL without EI or any of that. I was jazzed about being able to watch his last start, but it was the rain out. He sounded just about perfect last night.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check out MLB TV on line

Cost for the remainder of the season is less than $30.

Dome-san!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 20, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

And you can watch the archived games for free.

All you have to do is sign up.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if your kidding or asking a legit question.....

but the “El” is the term for “Elevated Train”…the mass transit system in Chicago.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

the MLB Extra Innings package you could purchase

is one of the EIs referred to around here

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harden...

…proves just how important having a good change up is in today’s game. When you have a good one, it just makes your fastball that much more electric and Harden’s is good on it’s own.

I don’t think it is a coincidence, that the vast majority of the best major league pitchers have exceptional changeups (or a pitch like it – splitter, etc.) that really helps to keep a hitter’s timing off balance.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Problem is, if you have a good but not great change.

It gets absolutley hammered.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if you leave it up in the zone.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong...

…with a guy with a live fastball and a good change, as that will service to put plenty of uncertainty in a hitters head.

My point was, the vast majority of dominant pitchers all have command of a very good change. As a hitter, those pitches are very difficult to lay off and the change in speeds have you absolutely befuddled at what may be coming next.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you Billy Beane

Once again, thank you Billy Beane for being the genius that allowed the trade of Harden to our Cubs.

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Aug 20, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

We really need a pic

of Harden, Ramirez, and Lee with the caption, “Gotcha!”

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still can't believe Beane made that trade.

The only possible reason I can think of is money. He is part owner now, I believe. But still…..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gallagher got lit up last night...

…Murton is in Triple A and Patterson is with the club but hitting an abysmal .200/.303/.262 (.564 OPS). All I can guess is that Beane sees bright futures for all three under the tutelage of his coaching staff. Otherwise, that trade – as of right now, at least – looks too good to be true.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he made the deal

because Harden has one more season to FA, and Gallagher is a 22-yo that was already on the major league level, with about 6 more seasons under team control? Not to mention all the love Gallagher was getting from his stint in last years’ AFL.

Notwithstanding the clunker last night, this is a classic Billy Beane move.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 20, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Injury fears

He made the trade because Harden had lost some velocity and Beane was already paranoid of yet another Harden injury. So far he was wrong.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

dangit

can’t wait to get back and finally see a full game again… between work and travel I feel like an exile. Fortunately, this condition won’t last much longer…

by Emelie on Aug 20, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT

Who was the BCB’er walking west down Waveland about 30 minutes after the game with a BCB shirt on, next to someone with a Zambrano jersey? I waited a second to long to try to call out as you walked past . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Wasn't me...

… I didn’t see him either.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sure got out fast!

I was in the UD box, section 404 — you left right after the last strike, didn’t you? Can’t blame you, given your work hours.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, stayed to see the Go Cubs Go words on the scoreboard...

… then down the stairs and out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

The whole song?

Do they display ALL the lyrics? It’s funny to see so many people on TV just moving their lips to parts they don’t know…. while trying to dance while balancing themselves on the bleachers while holding a W flag.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, all the lyrics are displayed.

Last night was the first time they had done that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is really cool

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only watched this year on TV myself

and I’ve managed to learn all the lyrics.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't been to Wrigley in a while

so the photos of the confines are a nice bit of nostalgia for me. Thanks for those. And I love that the words to ‘Go Cubs Go’ are displayed. Pretty damned thrilling to have our own song.

And I want the chorus as my ringtone. Srsly.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's a fanpost

that allows you to do exactly that.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Linky, pls and ty

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

go here

click here

There are a few options

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Much tanks

I’m firewalled from doing it at work (dammit), but I’ll see if I can pull it off at home.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding

N/A you were at it early today, huh?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

was that the really big W flag you speak of?

If so, that’s us and we know all the words without it being on the screen. We’re season ticket holders, and I think Al will vouch for our cubs knowledge.

I was surprised to see that, we did notice that more people were singing the 2nd and 3rd verses, then turned to see the words on the screen. As long as we don’t have to post the words to “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” like other stadiums.

by gp1966 on Aug 20, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, maybe we should post TMOTTBG

Harry sung it wrong, and so do most Cubs fans.

It’s take me out WITH the crowd, not TO the crowd . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you think of

Ditka’s rendition? (Real Player Audio)

There’s also a lot of Cracker Jacks, and ever instead of never.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was better than Ozzy . . .

You’re right about the other errors.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only slightly better than Ozzy

Very slightly.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

See, now...

…I’m definitely under a different impression. Perhaps it’s partly because I’ve always sung it that way, but I think it’s “take me out TO the crowd”. Singing “take me out WITH the crowd” gives me the visual of 41,000+ trying to cram into a stationwagon circus clown-style. You’re being taken out to the ballgame…being taken out to the crowd…both in the same location.

Can I get an official review of this, please??

And, yes, before anyone digs me for it: I do it circus clown-style. >8)

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

this says “with the crowd”.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thaaaaaaat's....

…what I was after. Thankya.

Hard to believe I’ve been wrong all these years…

Have a look out your office window in my building’s direction, Drew. I am now going to throw myself out the 6th floor window.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of getting the lyrics wrong

I was in my late teens before I realized the true lyrics weren’t “root for the cubbies”… i’d never heard it any other way.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI -- it also doesn't end with

“Let’s get some runs”

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No complaints....

Except one. Not to ruin my good vibe on this day with how well the Cubs are playing, but Soriano getting picked off again makes me slightly concerned that we are seeing the blossoming of Manny Jr. Am I wrong? I hope the more attention this team gets doesn’t equate to more and more hotdogging on his part. Just play the game the right way and we’ll all be ok.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I think

he’s just happy he can run again, and he’s getting a little careless. Hopefully, he’ll fix that.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sori

may think that the third base coach and other staff may be trying to protect his legs too much and giving him the stop sign where they wouldn’t give it to others. Or he is trying to prove that his legs are better than the staff thinks.

Either way, I hope he doesn’t get into the habit of disregarding the 3rd base coach. He got lucky this time. Most times the 3rd base coach is going to be right

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point.

Plus, other teams know about Sori’s leg problems. Maybe Quade holding up the stop sign is just a ruse to get the defense to relax and get caught offguard when Fonzie comes barreling home.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you suggesting that

the Cubs enter bizzarro reverse world when Sori is on the bases to confuse the other team? A place where stop means go and no means yes. ;)

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

A place on Clark and Addison.

Two streets that conveniently intersect, in the Twilight Zone.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed that Soriano...

…was visibly frustrated – presumably with Quade – after scoring in the eight inning.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I saw this too

He waved his hand in Quade’s direction (as if to say the heck w/ya). And he was shaking his head in the dugout as he was high-fiving teammates.

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 20, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did seem a little miffed...

…and frankly, I don’t think Quade has had a good year with his judgements in regards to sending runners.

On the surface, I understand playing it safe with Ramirez coming up, but Soriano hesitated around third and made it without much difficulty.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

but if a good throw had happened

he’d be crucified on here for it. Its one of those plays thats only good if it works.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Sori’s legs (and/or confidence in his legs) are back. He has stolen a bunch of bases. Only been caught once. (Odd I thought pickoffs counted in the CS catagory, can anyone cite a site that includes pickoffs?) The league is catching on, and actually paying attention to him now. Sori has to adjust to that now.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

when i looked it up

i had to go boxscore by boxscore. even the Major League Baseball Portal doesn’t keep pickoff stats for position players.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just have nightmares

of Sori pulling the hammy again while diving back to first.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

It’s a separate annoyance, and something he needs to work one. Though I will add that I am ecstatic that he’s running and stealing again. Maybe he’s getting picked at first cos he’s overanxious.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't stress how bad I feel for the Reds

They had a real solid foundation at the start of the season, and that was before they knew Volquez was going to be a Cy Young guy.

I’m not saying that its Dusty’s fault, but like Steve Stone said yesterday he took a mediocre team with promise and made them a last place team in just one season.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

He is on 670 the Score 3 or 4 times a week

If you go on their website they have podcasts of all his interviews. They aren’t always the kindest towards the Cubs, but his Dusty stuff was pure gold. He makes sure everyone knows he hates Dusty.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stoney sure got bitter

He used to be a lot more insightful before he let this get to him. It’s like someone who keeps ripping on an ex . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Although, to be fair...

…he did say in June that he thought the Cubs were going to win the division HANDILY, and he has stuck by those words…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't ever wavered in his thinking that the Cubs are a great team

He more just was getting on Dusty.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, gosh

who doesn’t love getting on Dusty? ;-)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

His Wife!!

Zing!!

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Aug 20, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

+32

Was also reached by the 1984 Cubs, the last time on September 15, 1984, when they were 90-58.

I said it two months ago, and I stick by it – this is the best Cubs team since 1935.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 20, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

You're right. I'll fix that.

But I agree with you re: 1935.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

How much were...

…your season ticket bleacher seats back then, Al? >8)

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

HEY!

I’m not THAT old!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

what

you didn’t lay the cornerstone at Weegham Field?

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's WEEGHMAN.

But no.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

hah!

but you know the correct spelling! :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, sure.

I read it in a book.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember books?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

kids today

with their hair and their venture capitalists… I TELL YOU!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the hipping, and the hopping...

…and the bipping, and the bopping…They don’t know what the JAZZ is all about!

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn skippy

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

(handing AI his Zimmer frame)

and waits for him to tell those kids to get off his lawn ;-)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn kids!

;-)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Outstanding

This is now my computer wallpaper…

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Aug 20, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Mine too. Perfect.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here...

Is that Dempster pitching?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know...

but looking at the picture…it cannot be very recent.

a) the field has not been replaced (see the infield cutouts)
2) the bleachers haven’t been expanded
d) the left-fielder is playing out of position relative to the right-handed batter.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where's the...

…Eamus Catuli sign when ya need it?!

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good win.

Nice to see the Cubs beating up on the teams they should be. Also great to see Harden go a wee bit deeper as we inch towards Autumn (referred to as such in lieu of any jinx-worthy verbiage – “the fall” could be taken the wrong way).

Take the series tonight, sweep em tomorrow.

Go Cubs Go.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Soriano

picked off first again, and runs through Quade’s stop sign in the 8th, w/ 4,5,6 to follow in the order. Some discipline or focus would be nice to see out of Sori.

Likewise, Geo Soto’s energetic play is a pleasure to watch. Aside from his baserunning, he was mad at himself for a passed ball w/ nobody on in the ninth. Love this kid!

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by Slakkr on Aug 20, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Did you see

him shaking his head after he scored, as if to say “Quade shouldn’t have tried to stop me”? A tad arrogant, but it all worked out.

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by SouthsideCub on Aug 20, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It did

work out, and we had struggled all night w/ RISP, but it’s still starting to look more and more like Sori being Sori.

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by Slakkr on Aug 20, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was more "Boy, I got lucky"...

…when he shook his head.

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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you have seen any

interviews done by Soto he is anything but arrogant. None of us have no idea why he was shaking his head.

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by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he was...

…referring to Soriano, not Soto, Sue.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Applies to Soriano

In interviews I have heard (very few, because he doesnt seem to like the spotlight) he has been painfully shy and humble. I think people are projecting things on him that are false.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, ok. Sorry

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by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano ran through that stop sign because

1) his leg would have fallen off if he tried to stop and 2) he scored rather easily.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

pat and ron

thought sori made a good call running through the stop sign….he scored so i agree with those 3

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was nobody out...

… that’s the likely reason for the stop sign. We’d have been all over Sori if he had been thrown out, but he scored, so he got away with it.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

understood

and not listening to your 3rd base coach is a problem if it keeps up, but i can’t remember the last time he did this…..hopefully this doesn’t empower him to keep making his own decisions

i’m just glad he was safe so we didn’t have a 30 minute argument about how sori sucks and isn’t worth his money haha

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The point is that no other player on the team would disregard the sign. There hasn’t been too much to be concerned w/ the past 2 weeks on this team, but one relative consistency has been Soriano’s mental gaffs. He stands apart from his teammates in this regard. I love the player, but like to see him clean this up.

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by Slakkr on Aug 20, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mental gaffs is polite

He is a hot dog plain and simple. I like what he brings to the team, but he is a prima dona and we all know it.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok so this stuff is starting again

Soriano isn’t a prima dona. He has never ever ever ever done anything but go out and play. People don’t like him because he will take some plays off and doesn’t always hustle (which is a flaw).

You want a prima dona go see A-Rod or Barry Bonds, even Sammy Sosa. Soriano is not one of them.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

great point

he’s a prima dona relative to the rest of the cubs, but in the grand scheme of things he is not…..very good point nji

and lets not forget another main reason people don’t like him is his contract…they feel he’s overpaid, i don’t

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

you can’t overpay for the effect that Sori has on this ball club. We play better when he is in the line up.

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by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

fact is

he gets the job done. He may, right now, be in the best shape he’s ever been in as a Cub. He blew the game open with that run.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Take some plays off?

How much are the Cubs paying him for these plays he is deciding to take off?

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he takes plays off

I think he’s efficient. He doesn’t run any faster than he needs to — and his amazingly long legs make him look like he’s moving slower than he is.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bottom Line

If he was on another team, no one here would defend him.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with that, either

For example: I think Manny does just fine.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

as do i

he produces and if that means he can act like a jackass, i don’t really care

the only thing i care about is WINNING

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's my favorite kind of hot dog/prima dona

one that can back it up…..maybe i’m just not old school enough, i see the exact same things you guys do (he is a show boat), but it does not bother me as long as he can back it up

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

This probably boils down to semantics...

…but I don’t think he’s a hot dog either. I think he plays the game aggressively and with a lot of confidence. Sometimes that leads to spectacular failures, but it leads to much spectacular success as well.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it being a hot dog if you back it up?

Muhammad Ali said “It’s not bragging if you can back it up.” While I am not equating Soriano to Ali, the sentiment is valid. If he helps the team by giving it a shot of emotion, where is the harm? Sori is a smart enough player to know when to back down and when to turn it on. Last week he stood and watched a hit a little too long – and apologized to his team. I think sometimes it gets forgotten that this is a game and there are emotional highs and lows from inning to inning. So one of the best runners on the team runs through a stop sign – OK – is this the first time, the second, the twelfth? If it becomes a habit, it might be a problem, if not – enjoy! Remember – it could be worse – it HAS been worse.

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Aug 20, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, that was Dizzy Dean

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

on a roll….

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, Ali.

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ol’ Diz said it first

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

-1

Out and out false. Stop projecting your stereotypes on him

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

that he's a prima donna

that he doesn’t try
that he insists on hitting first
that he eats babies
that he, not Darth Vader, is Luke’s Father…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn dominicans....

always eating babies at cockfights while rolling crepes.

something never change i guess

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by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't forget

how tightly they role those crepes, either. shoddy craftsmanship.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think Soriano is great personally.

but that doesn’t really answer my question. what kind of person are those stereotypes for?

by sackings108 on Aug 20, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

other players

have run through signs before.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

He scored and it wasn't even close

I don’t think we can rip Fonzie for this one. He was right and Quade made a mistake holding him.

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by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Quade is gun shy after a few bad sends recently

This wasn’t the first time in the last week that I’ve thought that . . .

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could be...

since he sent Lee? home in one of the Brewer’s games he’s been overly conservative.

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Quade was very conservative in the Marlins series...

In the 2-1 loss he held Soriano on a ball i thought he could have scored on.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there (1st row, over 3rd base) and say no way he scores

CF Alfredo Amezaga had the ball in hand as Soriano rounded 3rd.

As I recall, Soriano made the turn but Quade had both hands up standing half way to home plate. With two outs, that was the wise choice. That would have run us out of the inning had he been out at home. Instead, it left the bases loaded for soon-to-be-announced PH Derrek Lee.

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by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The throw was also well up the line at 3rd and nowhere near home plate.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

After the fact, yes.

Neither a coach or a runner can predict a bad throw. Nor can they predict if a catcher will misplay the ball.

A thrown ball travels faster than a player runs. A good throw beats him.

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by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give you that BUT

part of you job as a coach/baserunner is to gauge those types of things and I don’t think Quade has been all that good at it lately. Been solid all year just seems like lately his judgement one way or the other has been off.

BTW, Congrats on your promotion.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That brings up a question I have never settled.

Who really has the final say? If your third base coach holds you up when you know you can score at what point is it right to go ahead and score? How many times did we wish runners had stopped even though Waving Wendell said go? Its easy to shirk any responsibility and just listened to your base coach and let him take all the blame if he makes the wrong decision, but at some point the runner should include his own judgement in the decision making process.

For example, if the stop sign comes up too late for you to slow up, you go. I had a very fast player on my softball team blow thru my sign. He told me later I was late on the stop sign even though I had started when he was just past halfway to third. He was just that fast.

He scored by the way.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You almost never...

…see a runner hold up around third when a coach has waved him in. Players are taught to pick up the third base coach and follow his lead unless the play is in front of you.

When a guy runs through a stop sign, it is because they aren’t paying attention or have seen something the coach has not. 99% of the time, a guy trying to score from second (like last night) does not have the same ability to view the play as the third base coach. I’ll bet Soriano went because he picked up Quade too late and he just said the hell with it.

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by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

or, you know

maybe Quade was wrong. Quade also signaled Soto to slide into third long before Soto actually slid. And I bet Quade woudln’t have sent Soto on that bunt, either.

I think Sori running through that sign SHOWS discipline and focus. He KNEW he could score, so he went and did it.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

here here

and for the most part, sori will not be the best person to make that call (of running through the stop sign), but it worked out this time and no harm no foul

i would say however i do not want him to make this a habit

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must be kidding

I suppose turning a double into a single also shows discipline and focus. Does gettting picked off first show focus and discipline?

I will agree to disagree.

Maybe Quade was wrong… If Lou calls for a pitch out, should Soto decide whether or not to call for it?

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by Slakkr on Aug 20, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

good point

but i think what drew was saying is everyone makes mistakes (including coaches), so i think the person that was ultimately right depends on what lou/quade would say after the game

if they side with sori and say it was a good call for him to run, then sori was right….if they would say it wasn’t worth the risk, then sori was wrong

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't move the goalposts.

we’re not talking about getting picked off at first, or watching what would have been a HR in almost any other park bounce off the wall.

We’re talking about him running through THIS SIGN. I think he knew he could score. I saw him turn his head to look and see where the ball was, and he realized he could go through. He hesitated for a second, then went for it, and scored pretty easily.

His legs are finally better. He’s got his confidence back. It was the right decision.

Quade is not Lou, and running through a sign is not ignoring your manager call a pitch-out.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

When Soriano hits the walk off homer to win the WS in game 5

Maybe people will finally accept him.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

nah

he’ll only be doing it to pad his own stats…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

btw game 5?

is that some kind of prediction???? spooky

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its the last game we can have a walk off homer to win the WS

So it has to happen then

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

that will be at the AL park

remember, the ASG game matters.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

road game

I want the game over on this homer that hasn’t even happened yet. Otherwise people will not give Soriano credit.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I give

You’re right. Soriano displayed focus and discipline when running through the stop suggestion.

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by Slakkr on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

don't be pissy

it’s just a different opinion.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

These instances are really apples and oranges.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Drew...

…if we don’t move the goalposts this season, the Bears MIGHT NOT SCORE AT ALL.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd much rather...

…have Quade be conservative in this scenario (no outs, middle of the order coming up) and be “wrong” on the safe side for a change.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harden's stuff

continues to amaze me. His changeup sometimes actually looks like a slider/curveball. In spite of how much he needs to be babied, he’s worth it.

I’ll echo the comment above. I feel bad for Reds fans. They got NUTHIN.

I’ll be at the game tonight expectin g a win.

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by SouthsideCub on Aug 20, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I actually liked how he held back a little last night...

He was throwing his fastball around 90-92 last night (according to the Comcast gun) and then in the 7th his last pitch he hit 95. I think he was trying to get his command under control (something he had a problem with last start) and still be effective and he was.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

comes off the same arm slot and release point

thus the batter can’t recognize it until it is too late.

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by Ivy Walls on Aug 20, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why I love it so much

For the first 10-15 feet out of Harden’s hand, the fastball and changeup are in the EXACT SAME plane, which is sick. I can’t remember the GIF i saw of this, but it explains why batters get so far ahead of the changeup.

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by SouthsideCub on Aug 20, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about the Reds batter...

…who was so out in front and fooled by the Harden changeup that his bat ended up out by Theriot at short? And that swing was with only one strike!

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there such a thing as a 2-seam change?

Cuase thats what it looks like sometimes.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe there are any number of change up grips

I don’t know how Harden throws his, but I’m fairly certain the change-up relies less on pressure on the seams as opposed to how you hold the ball in general.

by dr stabbingworth on Aug 20, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

who was covering for ron during ATL series?

dave otto? can’t remember… but whoever and pat were talking about this, how there is dozens of different change up grips and that it is just a matter of what works for that pitcher.

the goal is to find a grip that allows you to maintain arm speed and motion, mimicking a fastball with the delivery. i believe they said that glavine accidentally “discovered” his change up grip while playing long toss in the outfield before a game.

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by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

So true...

…the whole key is to find the right grip that allows you to use the exact same arm motion as a fastball, but causes the ball to decelerate about 7-10 mph slower than your fastball. If a pitcher masters this pitch, it is devastating for hitters and really messes with your head.

For those with young kids who pitch, have them work to master a change vs a breaking ball. It is harder to master, but a lot less demanding on the elbow.

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by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The slider works at an earlier age.

I think thats why it becomes the go to pitch for most pitchers. A changeup is only worth while when you start throwing hard.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't have...

…to be a hard thrower for a change to be a killer pitch. It is all relative, anything that messes with a hitters timing, limits the hitters ability to hit the ball hard.

Look at Maddux, he has a fastball that is 83-84 and a very effective change.

Regarding the slider, I think it has become a more commone pitch since the mound was lowered in the late 60’s and its easier to command than the old 12-6 curve ball.

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by MPH73 on Aug 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve Goodman

probably never expected his song to be sung by fans after every single Cubs victory at home and on many away games. The song is a bit cheesy by today’s standards, but it brings a tear to the eye when you think about who he was and what a devoted fan he was. I was only 8 when he died, but I remember buying the .45 before the 84 playoffs.

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

NA. I’ll have to tell my wife that. She commented again last night about how cheesy the song is. My response then was, “But it’s Steve Goodman!” Her reply? “Who cares?”

Blasphemy!

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anything does

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by flyingdonut on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does that mean...

….when we beat other teams and get to sing, they’ve been “Steve-Rolled”?

by Chadnudj on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

**TOTALLY** beats out...

…“Don’t Stop Believing” by Journey on the cheese-o-meter, though >8)

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do miss 'Jump", though

when the Cubs take the field

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

never really liked jump

but it was MUCH better than bto…..i’ve always thought it should be sweet home chicago

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too mellow for me

The team should take the field to something that gets the crowd fired up

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where did I comment on the merits of Jump?

But since you asked, no. I love blues music, but it’s not something that conjures up images of an athletic event.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was asking....

jeez i heard badgers were mean little guys, but i guess it’s true

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to tell

but your reply was a bit defensive.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet Home Chicago

would be my second choice for a Win song, after Go Cubs Go, of course.

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

but the general public prolly would identify more with theBlues Brothers’ version

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buddy Guy for me...

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me...

…too much of going to Sox games in the 90’s

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by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1,000,000

especially the Blues Brothers Version!

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by CaliCub on Aug 20, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

does anyone else have something even close to this?

i can’t think of anyone that has a “theme song” like we do…..sure boston has sweet caroline and LA has i love LA, but none of those songs are specific to the actual team

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

But I would like to see them display the lyrics to the “hey hey holy mackerel” song before games. What’s that song called anyway. haha

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, the original title is the Chicago Cubs Song

Even though it’s “Hey Hey Holy Mackerel” on the new CD.

BTW — that CD was made by local Cubs fans in my hometown — the booming metropolis of Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Some of you know it as the northernmost suburb….

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want the CD

I lost the .45 for Here’s to you, men in blue.

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the new version of the Cubs song

But I really like the classic 60’s version better. Even though the band that performs it on the CD is also from Kenosha . . . they did a great job, but I miss the piano.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hokey theme songs were common

in the 1960s. The Cubs had the “Hey, hey, holy mackarel” song. The Twins had “We’re gonna win Twins, we’re going to score, we’re gonna win Twins, watch that baseball soar” etc. The Angels had “California Angels A-OK, California Angels, all the way.” Pretty much all of these songs were intended to introduce the radio broadcasts of the team’s games (as was, to be honest, “Go Cubs Go,” which WGN radio commissioned in 1984 for the radio broadcasts).

None of these songs quite reached the level of popularity and fan ritual like “Go Cubs Go” has reached this season though. Most of them were forgotten by the 1980s (and to be honest, “Go Cubs Go” was forgotten too.)

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's crazy to think

that with as much tradition as the Cubs have that something new was created this year – last year, technically, but it’s truly caught on this year.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do they sing at those English soccer matches?

That sounds pretty awsome with about 100,000 people singing.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mainly obscene chants

One of the nice things about US sports is the mix of people in the crowd.

by Stan Cox on Aug 20, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meet the Mets?

I can recall the Columbus Clippers having quite a little song.

In other sports…
The Blackhawks had a radio jingly-thingy that played for years…Heard it over and over in NHL 94 on my sega (that team DOMINATED)
Bear Down
Hail to the Redskins

That’s just off the top of my head

by JCD on Aug 20, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here Come the Hawks?

They’re playing that again — part of the big WGN campaign. They play it before every Cubs game. Reminds me of the Spider-Man theme from the 1970’s.

(Bobby Hull, Bobby Hull. Friendly neighborhood . . . sorry, that’s just silly)

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

West TN: Kudos to SportSouth

I have complained for years about the lack of availability of Reds games on local cable TV in west TN. The Reds are blacked out here on Extra Innings. With the Braves on PeachTree TV last night and FSN South picking up the FSN Midwest feed for the Cardinals game. SportSouth was free to pick up the FSN Ohio feed for the Reds-Cubs game. To my incredible surprise, the Commercial Appeal even had it printed that the game would be on SportSouth last night.

The Cards and Braves have both FSN South and SportSouth locked up in west TN this evening, so I won’t be able to see the game. I’m hoping the Reds-Cubs game will be on either FSN South or SportSouth here on Thursday afternoon.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 20, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

How was Thom Brenneman last night?

He usually is good for about 5 really strange comments per Cubs-Reds game.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Small Ball and Base Running Comments

Brennaman commented that the Cubs make too many baserunning mistakes after DeRosa was caught off second base on a grounder to shortstop and Soriano got picked off first. He also said the Cubs don’t play small ball very well. That was after Harden failed to get a bunt down in the middle innings. There was the comment that the Cubs didn’t steal many bases. Chris Welsh said that the Cubs had scored three runs or less in 50 games this season. George Grande is supposed to be back for the Thursday game.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 20, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

everyone knows we’re a power-based club, relying only on the long ball.

Someone should tell him it’s not ’04 anymore.

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok so not all the bad of stuff

Though I would say if we had a non-AL pitcher in we could play small ball. Of course I should be shocked that they even know what small ball is considering who manages that team.

Nothing compared to the early May series against them where he was saying Soto was on roids and a team on a 95 win pace “should have a better record”

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL - the Cubs don't play small ball well.

Geo scoring from third on Harden’s bunt was the definition of small ball. And the Cubs didn’t hit any home runs last night yet still shut out the Reds 5-0. Suck it, Brennaman.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brennaman on Encarnacion

He blamed that run being scored on Encarnacion not turning around to look Soto back to third. Thom called it a “mental mistake”. I don’t deny that Encarnacion should have paid more attention to Soto, but no credit was given to Geo for hustling down the third base line to score.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 20, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Harden's hustle...

…to first that drew Encarnacion’s full attention.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

He takes that time to look and Harden probably beats the throw to first. Harden has some wheels.

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by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't look some one back to third

WHEN NO ONE IS COVERING THIRD!

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

But! Cueto!

he was pointing! To… someone in the stands?

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cracked me up...

…when I paused that wide shot during that play. Cueto was pointing to Soto at 3B while the catcher was pointing to 1st. Wouldn’t have shocked me if Encarnacion would have thrown it to 2B in all that confusion >8)

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cease and Desist

Dear Al,
Please refrain from using corny taglines involving the players’ names. That is my shtick.

Chris Berman

by WashUBearCub on Aug 20, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Please no!

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It could...go...all..the...ZZZzzzzZZZzZZZz

(well, he is getting up there)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's like no one here's

ever posted on a message board before!

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quit Yellon at Al

about corny taglines involving names.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 20, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

You've been dying

to use that one haven’t you? ;)

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Best ever?

I once saw Berman refer to a certain over-worked, soon-to-have-dead-arm, large pitcher from up north as CC “Splish, splash I was taking” Sabathia….

by Chadnudj on Aug 20, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing to compare...

…the team handling of Harden vs. Sabathia since their respective trades:

Harden: 7GS, 42.0 innings, very conservative pitch counts

Sabathia: 9GS, 5CG, 73.0 innings, and massive pitch counts (130 pitches in his last start, for example)

Amazing record and performances aside, it makes you kind of wonder if CC’s arm is going to fall off before, during, or after the playoffs…

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

That's the difference between a rent-a-player

and a guy you have under contract next year.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too early?

Or did she say it?

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's NEVER too early

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there are quite a few "She"s

that would say that sometimes its is too early. That’s why they make drugs for it.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 20, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe PLTW was taking "early" to mean "in the AM"....

not “length of time”.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

I read that like you implied the drug to combat the earliness problem is, in fact, roofies.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, but...

rent-a-player or not, you’ve got to figure that the Brewers feel good about their chances for the wildcard. The rate they’re burning him up, he might be rolling the ball to the plate in October…

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

which isn't exactly going to help them in the post

they need him to get there, but then they need him to WIN, too.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

CC got tired in '07 and the RedSox sat on his fastball

Milwaukee doesn’t care they are using rented property and now are 6 games back (7 in the loss column ) with less than 38 games remaining.

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by Ivy Walls on Aug 20, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which makes think they'll ride CC even HARDER

now that they basically have to win every one of his starts in order to make up 6 games in six weeks. If the Brewers had even a resaonable bullpen, CC wouldn’t have to throw 120 pitches every time out.

Between CC now being expected to throw a complete game every time out, and Big Ben having a slight (cough) tendency toward injury, we’ll have to wait and see how that 1-2 punch is punching at the end of September.

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by SouthsideCub on Aug 20, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

(snicker)

CC Rider

(snicker)

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might be right

but that would be stupid. The Brewers are in a strong position to win the Wild Card. They ought to take it and be happy with it. Lots of teams win the World Series as wild card teams these days, and no one cares they didn’t win the division when they hoist the flag.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

my money would be on during...

should the brewers make it. just like it did in last year’s ALCS. I’d hate the be the gm who wants CC for the next 5-7 years and is watching the Brewers kill him.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two things: Cubs won another first game of a series and essentially Cubs '08 tied with '45 and '69

If you look at the record 77-48 versus 77-47 (one tie) this essentially is roughly the same pace. They are playing very well and developing a late season personality offensively where they explode into a big inning and take a close game out.

Winning the first game of a series is key for it puts pressure on the opponent because the Cubs have such a strong rotation. Trying to beat Lilly and Zambrano back-to-back is more than a tall order.

Hope Ted puts pressure on Z to move off the 12th win snide by winning another grinder tonight!

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by Ivy Walls on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Make no mistake Rich Harden is the true ace of the Cub staff

With all due respect to Carlos Zambrano, Ryan Dempster and Ted Lilly….Rich Harden is the guy who you want pitching in game 1 of the playoffs and the guy you want pitching in the most critical game of the playoffs as well. Harden is dominating. Just keep him healthy and relatively rested so you can step on his accelerator come playoff time.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Dempster in Game 1 or 2

assuming home-field, of course.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

Just like Boston would make sure Josh Beckett is on the mound for game 1 the Cubs need to do the same with Rich Harden. He is the dominator on this staff.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't trust Harden's arm to be able to go on 3 days rest if needed.

Dempster is much more likely to be able to do that.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 +1 +1

Rich Harden is great, but I wouldn’t even trust his arm to go on FOUR days rest.

Any playoffs lineup runs Demp, Z, Harden if at home, Z, Harden Demp if away, but someone else pitches in game 5 if it gets to that..

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are all forgetting of course that Z will be Z again in September

Meaning that he will be the game 1 starter.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depending on where the Cubs play...

… you might want to throw Harden at home in a night game.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, they're all night games

in the post, right?

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rays or Twins will be playing during the day

No way Cubs play day games

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs MIGHT get a day game in an NLDS...

… depending on who the other teams are, and how they get scheduled.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially for the 'nostalgia' factor..

But I think the stations would rather have the Chicago market for a night game, especially if the Cubs played LA in the NLDS.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

Depends in part on how many West Coast teams are in, and whether the Mets or Yankees are in.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

that would be ironic

considering we lost home field advantage in 1984 playoffs because we didn’t have lights at the time :

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

MYTH BUSTERS!

That’s not true. 1984 was the NL West team’s turn for home field advantage.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Perfect when discussing 1984, too….

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

MYTH!!!

I exploded this myth in my article on the 20th anniversary of the first night game in “Wrigley Season Ticket”. It’s too long to repeat here, but the bottom line is: THE CUBS DID NOT LOSE HOME FIELD IN THE 1984 NLCS. At the time home field rotated between East & West, same as the WS. The NL East had home field in the 1983 NLCS. It was the West’s turn in ’84. The Cubs lost nothing — except the series.

They WERE going to lose home field in the WS if they had made it.

But the story that they lost home field in the ’84 NLCS — 100% false.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

And even if it were true

That’s no excuse for losing the NLCS. Cripes, can’t win 1 of 3 from an inferior opponent?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

But it's true they were threatened, correct?

That, had they made it to the Series, their home games would have to be played at Busch.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was rumored in subsequent years

In 1984, the NL had home advantage — the league would have given it to the Tigers.

Busch Stadium was talked about for 1986, I think. As Lou would say, it turned out to be a “mute point”.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Busch was supposedly going to happen in 1985.

Season ticket holders got letters about this from Dallas Green. The 1985 NLCS WAS played in Busch Stadium, when the Cardinals won the East.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

And what was the opinion at the time?

Get lights, play at Busch, or plead for day games?

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Day games #1...

… lights #2…

Busch #8,358

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by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well done. ;)

But was day games throughout the postseason something MLB actually considered?

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're not the only one who thinks that

Ron Santo still believes it. He mentioned it on-air last week.

And we all know how much research Ronnie does . . . .

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

whats really amusing is

I’m fairly certain I read Al’s piece about the myth, and I still goofed it up – that’s how ingrained in my memory it is.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a chance

The Cubs are going to be the #1 draw in the playoffs this season. The Yankees are unlikely to make it and the Red Sox might not either (and besides, Red Sox/Angels doesn’t have the same zip as Red Sox/Yankees.) The broadcasters are going to want the Cub games in prime time.

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by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harden did make clear during the postgame...

…that he prefers pitching at night. I believe Lou mentioned that Rich prefers cooler weather, too. Not to get ahead of myself here, but that sounds like a perfect October pitcher to me.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I’d want Harden for the first game too. Nice to get that 1st. win out of the way.

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harden in the playoffs

Last appearance Oct 13 2006 at Detroit. Pitched 5 2/3 innings. Walked 5. Gave up 3 ER, including a dinger. Lost. Only start in the playoffs.

2 relief appearances in 2003 vs Boston. 1 1/3 innings, 2 ER. 2 walks.

Total playoff stats: 6.43 ERA. 7 innings, 7 walks, 5 ks.

Harden looks great. But I would rather have Z and Demps in a pressure spot right now, and thats not even including the bullpen usage problem.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's it...it's all over...

I say no way does Harden make the playoff roster…

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree in some respects but that's a pretty

broad statement to make with six weeks to go in the season. When Z is on, his stuff is just as dominating as Harden. Let’s see where we are at the end of September.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

There is no debate in my mind. Rich Harden is a dominant pitcher. Teams that win World Series have that one dominant stud in the rotation that nobody wants to face. As good as our other starters are, Harden is head and shoulders the guy I want on the mound when it most counts.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's your mind. I need to see a few more

starts over the next few weeks to make that kind of a statement. What would you say if Z gets hot and reels off 3 or 4 starts in a row where he dominates. I just don’t see a big of a gap between the two pitchers as you do.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Point is being lost

I’m not disputing the talent and effectiveness of Zambrano, Dempster or Lilly. Fact is they are all highly effective pitchers. Zambrano’s ability and success speaks for itself. But the question isn’t who is the better pitcher… the question is who I want on the mound in the most critical playoff games…..and my answer is Rich Harden 100%.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

nobody asked!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, he's entitled to his opinion.

Many of us happen to disagree.

But IF the Cubs chose Harden for a game 1, I don’t think any of us would have a problem with that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right. This is a great problem to have. It's not like you would

have much drop-off from 1 to 2. I certainly would’t bitch if Harden started game 1.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The inherrant problem

is you don’t want Harden back up in three or four days in a must-win situation. I’d much rather have Z or Demp go again.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure you can control that. You can

nurse Harden along in the regular season, but in the playoff, he’s got to pitch. I don’t think you pitch him on three days rest, but on four, he’s got to go.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

True,

but you’re only exacerbating that if you start a series with him. Best to err on the side of caution.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still think your two best guys

need to pitch twice in the series. Don’t go down with bullets left in your gun.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

Glad I don’t have to make these decisions.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forget about Dempster and Lilly. Demp is having a good year but

he is not in the class of Harden and Z stuff-wise. All I am saying is that the choice between the two is not that clear-cut if Z is on his game.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dempster would prolly be the guy right now IMO

Z will fix his stuff and be the guy in the end.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Demp has better numbers than Z, but

he is behind Z if Z is on. I still rate him as the third best pitcher on this staff.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's put it this way

It could be argued that last year Zambrano was the 2nd (or 3rd) best starter on the Cubs, yet he was still considered the ace and was the first pitcher in the series.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 20, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

And when it came down to it, he

pitched the best game in the series. Lou pulled him when he shouldn’t have, but he pitched the best.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stuff is only half of pitching.

Demps handles pressure well. Seems like he loves it. And with the split finger added to his arsenal he has been a great all around pitcher this year.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think being a closer

has helped Dempster in pressure situations. He’s been there, done that.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

BlueMike is just taking for credit...

…for something he had nothing to do with.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, we know

there’s no debate in your mind. There never is.

Z has the stuff to be just as dominating a Harden, AND he can go much deeper in the game. I’d be very surprised to see Harden have a CG in the playoffs, I would be much less surprised to see Z or Demp have one.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt you'd see ANYONE...

… throw a CG in the postseason.

Anyone know when the last one was? I can’t remember one for quite some time.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beckett

He had at least one in 2003. I think the clincher of the WS he went CG.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it did.

If that’s the last one, it’s been five years.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow that is 5 years ago now

how time flys

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree

but it’s still even less likely for Harden.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 2005 ALCS

the sox threw 5 straight complete games if I remember correctly. The bullpen was never used in the entire series

by stadiumguru on Aug 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty close...

Contreras went 8.1 the first game for the L…Besides that, all CG’s. A bit easier to do in the AL, with the DH though.

Lots of CG’s…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok, my bad,

I thought he pitched a CG in game 1 as well. Still, 4 CGs is very impressive. Yes, it is a lot easier in the AL

by stadiumguru on Aug 20, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha, i CERTAINLY

was not trying to correct you- after you mentioned it, I just thought I would look it up…I had no idea!

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

All Glories To Cheatzynski

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 20, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Harden’s pitch count limitations mean he is more likely to tax our bullpen than any of our others “aces” (Are you allowed to have 3 “aces”?). I’d pitch him before a travel day if at all possible. I would say Demps is our best pressure pitcher, as demonstrated by his stint as a closer. But this year Z has gotten his occasional hyper-ness under control. He is still the Game 1/7 starter in my book. Plus he goes deepest into games.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

But They Played Them As "1"s instead of "11"s

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by CaliCub on Aug 20, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which makes you about $1000

on your average Deuces Wild video poker machine

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

One negative comment amidst the wondrous positiveness of right now

Alfonso Soriano is in another one of his patented stupid streaks. Case in point, how many times does he need to get picked off of first base?

Lets just hope he gets his hot dogging and that stupid streak out of his system before the playoffs arrive.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll take the numbers and deal with the careless baserunning. I think he

is taking those chances because his legs feel better. I don’t expect to see those types of things in the playoffs.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

numbers?

is twice a repeated pattern? yes, no one likes seeing him picked off, but if the worst that happens is 2 POs and 1 CS this season, I’ll take it.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was three games

that’s what Len said last night. Still not good.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

but it's not a trend.

over the course of 162 games (I realize Soriano won’t play that many), 2 you can live with.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hitting for two cycles...

…in two consecutive games isn’t a trend either – it’d be as amazingly remarkable as getting picked off first two (or three, Drew) games in a row is amazingly sloppy.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

indeed.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

sloppy, sure.

but at least he feels comfortable enough to push the envelope and use his speed. it’s just another weapon for this team.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are over exagerating. He doesn't have a history of running into

a bunch of outs. Don’t let your opinion of him color the facts. I know you don’t like him but he’s not that bad of a baserunner.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong.

It has everything to do with his healthy legs. He is finally running like he wants too. The league just hadnt noticed. Now they are paying more attention to him at first. Attention he isnt used to, because he hasnt been a running threat most of the year. Now he has to adapt.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, I did some research

Combing through every game in which Soriano has played, he has been picked off 4 times this season, one of which was a POCS, so he was running when Tom Glavine threw behind him. Honestly, just as the hand-wringing over two bad Zambrano starts has begun in earnest, I guess so to has the worry over Soriano’s baserunning.

Honestly, I think it’s being a tad nit-picky. If he can run, I say run. The pick-offs are a result of his feeling better about his legs.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

LSA.

Just another ugly reminder of BlueMike’s neverending vendetta against Soriano.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

4 pickoffs, 1 caught stealing versus ...

… say 13 caught stealings? Oh but Soriano is a hot-dog.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's because

his uniform doesn’t get so dirty.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think either one is a hot dog

though after some extensive research (I read a book on my vacation), stolen bases are fairly overrated. unless they’re stealing at over a 70-percent clip, it’s not really worth it to be running.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wood in 9th

When he blew that high 2-seemer past Bruce in the 9th (first pitch?), I muttered, “Son, you’re never gonna hit tht ball up there.”

by thermal54 on Aug 20, 2008 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I would feel better if we could get Wood into some 1 run games in the 9th...

It’s great that the Cubs burst out to a late 5-0 lead last night. But I want to see Wood pitch in pressure cooker situations right now so he is best equipped to handle them in the playoffs. I’m still not convinced that Wood can handle real pressure cookers without walking guys, hitting guys and otherwise melting down. Let’s get him RIGHT right now.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

he’s talking about a pitcher who at a 20K game… and Woody doesn’t know how to pitch under pressure???

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

The Cubs should NOT score runs late in games so that Kerry Wood can “handle real pressure cookers.” BRILLANT!

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

So does my heart

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Sue

off-topic, but there was a great column about Shawn Johnson in today’s Washington Post that I thought you might appreciate: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/19/AR2008081901389.html

by bjs on Aug 20, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you call last Friday's Game

Big 3 run homer to take the lead by 1 in the top of the 9th. Have not won their 3 years. Facing the top of the order in a power hitting lineup. Not sure it gets more pressured back than that during the regular season.

He also has done this in STL, vs Dodgers at home, etc, etc….

He has pitched in multiple playoff games…I think he has been tested and has been found worthy of the job

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by TheRiot Police on Aug 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT on synchronized fan activity

And to distract from the budding Soriano debate above . . . .

Can we please stop the “Let’s Go Cubbies” chant and replace it with the much more assertive “Let’s Go Cubs” chant that used to be more common before fans confused the organist playing the tones for “Fu-ku-Do-me”?

Also, can we not chant when the Cubs are in the field? That’s like doing the wave when the offense has the ball in football.

Ok, rant over.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I always wanted to hear a

Go! Cubs! Go! chant.
Someone should work on that at the next game. Try to get a new trend started.

You’re right, though. The Let’s Go Cubbies chant is getting old. And we also need to start losing the “Cubbies” name and go more with the traditional and less cute “Cubs”

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I know “Cubbies” fits the rythym of TMOTTBG better, but other than that . . . .

It really sounds like a bunch of children pleading — “C’mon Cubbies! Let’s go! Pleaaaase?” Someone cue the late Mr. Carlin…

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know I am in the minority but

I think the “Go Cubs Go” song and the wave of “W” flags is getting a bit corny. It is getting to be like the “rally monkey” or the “tomahawk chop”.. IMHO. I am also tired of the Dan Plesac “blue train”. Give me a win and a little K.C. “do a little dance”… and off to our next win!!

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

A bit corny?

Maybe. But it’s fun.

And you’d rather play disco . . . .
:)

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's not any cornier than anything else out there

“New York, New York” and “Dirty Water” by the Standells are both staples, too. But I’d much rather hear “Go Cubs Go” – at least it pertains to the team.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

For those who were around in 1984

Go Cubs Go is too sentimental to dump. It really is cheesy. But as someone said in an earlier post, It’s cheesy but it’s ours.

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I happen to agree with you

I have started to shake my head at the obnoxious celebration level at Wrigley. There is difference between diehard exultation for a Cub win and acting like you can’t handle your liquor and haven’t been there before. I think other baseball teams and their fans shake their head at us. Unfortunately, I think a lot of baseball fans around the country are learning to hate our guts.

The singing and hanging over the rail and the flag thing has all become a bit much.

by MDBNIU on Aug 20, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

-1

for "+1"ing a post about agreeing with your post. If you are from Chicago, you should be more adept at voting twice without being obvious!

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

-1

“…a lot of baseball fans around the country are learning to hate our guts.”

Wake up and smell the Old Style. They already do.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

then don't do it.

are we to the point where Blue-Mike gets to tell us how to celebrate?

When Ward hit that homerun in Miami the other night, did you sit and calmly golf clap?

I jumped up and went running through my house screaming “YES! WARD! ALRIGHT! WOOO-HOOOOOO!”

And I really could not give a turd if anyone doesn’t like it.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is great

I was doing the same. I was jumping up and down…. but I did not need to start whipping out a W flag and singing a corny song.

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok I agree with this one

I was kind of embarassed in Florida when people were whipping out the W flags before the Cubs even won, and the Marlins got 2 on and the whole time I’m thinking… if the Cubs blow this, it’s going to be really embarassing.

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

I find when I fire up iTunes to get ready to play Go Cubs Go the other team always get a hit or two. See Keppinger last night, don’t need to offend the baseball gods.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I love the tradition of singing “Go Cubs Go” after a win – but only after a win. And premature W flag flappers bug me as well, but they’d probably just say we’re being overly superstitious.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's superstitious, though

I think the early celebration is obnoxious.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Office quotes are always +1.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

premature flagulation

is strictly prohibited. I don’t like the people that have the W flags and signs up in the first inning. Our flag stays under wraps until the last out, we even had to lock the backpack of the flag holder during one game to ensure this happened. Very superstitious

by gp1966 on Aug 20, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree on ANY premature celbration of wins as being low class and wrong

whether at home or on the road. But I do NOT agree that the “Go Cubs Go!” singing is corny. As a lifelong Cub fan living in LA, I can tell you that I think it is great that we are al enjoying the ride…no matter where it ends. Let’s just enjoy it.

But there is no reason to celebrate games or wins UNTIL the last out is recorded. That activity is low class. The true fan of the game does not do that. But any great year like this will bring out newbies who do not understand the culture of the game. let’s not let that destroy all that we enjoy about this season.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 20, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

not at home, no

and not before the end of the game.

But it’s become part of the Win experience. I like it.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand

How is singing after a victory acting like you can’t handle your liquor?

I guess it’s so tasteless for fans to celebrate a win in unison.

by daeviant on Aug 20, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

When the someone is BlueMike...

…it’s about as surprising as rain in Seattle.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm fortunate enough

to get to see the Cubs win at Wrigley you can bet I will be singing “Go Cubs Go” along with the other Cub fans there. There will be no liquor involved either.

Honest to God you have to be the unhappiest man in the world.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

When he goes swimming - dolphins gather.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He once knew a call was a wrong number...

…even though the person on the other end wouldn’t admit it.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

His legend precedes him the way lightning precedes thunder.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is right-handed . . .

and left-handed

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on Aug 20, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He once punched a majician -

that’s right, you heard me.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Milton

His organ donor card also lists his beard

by JCD on Aug 20, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

When he order a salad, he gets the dressing

right there on the salad, where it belongs, where there’s no turning back.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um, no.

Sorry.

In fact, I’d get rid of your avatar before anything you mentioned. ;)

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will :)

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

That avatar needs to go.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

and that Ivy, c'mon what a gimmick.

A basket … really? Whats with singing during the 7th inning stretch, cracker jacks? Talk about corn ball! and what stadium doesnt have a jumbotron! Get rid of that relic of a scoreboard. Corny!

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're entitled to your opinion

but isn’t K.C. and the Sunshine Band even more corny?

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't that make

70’s night the corniest promotion in baseball? I mean, God sent a severe storm to Wrigley this year, just to break it up…

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe "A Little Less Conversation"

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry dude

Just my opinion. I like the song too. Just a bit corny.

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I love hearing it at Wrigley because it means the Cubs have posted a win.

But let’s be honest—it’s awfully corn-ball and twangy. If the Brewers or Cardinals played a similar tune, most Cub fans would mock it mercilessly.

Dome-san!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 20, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

let them

have the best record in baseball and they won’t care if we mocked.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

the corn dogs

the corn chips in the nachos
the corn on a stick
the popcorn
caramel corn

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Five game playoff series rotation?

I would go:
Harden
Dempster
Zambrano
Lilly (if needed)
Harden (if needed)

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

My God

We have a chance……

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

completely disagree

don’t wait until game 3 to get z out there

i think we learned from last year that you can’t plan for the next game, rather you need to win today

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

All of this handwringing about Big Z is likely based on two rough starts this month – one really bad and his last outing, which wasn’t all that bad. Bear in mind that Carlos had a rough August last year as well – remember his gestures to the Wrigley fans when heading back to the dugout? OK, now think about how he pulled things together in mid- to late-September and in Game One against the D’Backs.

Big Z will be back to form soon and, assuming the Cubs make the playoffs, he will be at the top of the rotation in the postseason. Depending on the matchups, Lou might start Harden in the first game of a playoff series, but Carlos will be next then Dempster.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

you beat me to it

the only reason i could see lou going with harden in the first game is to give him ample time to rest if he needs to go again later in the series

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

and then who pitches after Dempster?

it’s nice to think that we can sweep the first round, but we have to be smart.

Pete’s sake. We’re discussing who is the worse pitcher, Z or Harden. What a problem to have.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

didn't mean to imply a sweep

thought it was obvious we go with lilly in game 4

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

but if we went with Z first

Z could go again in Game 4.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

yah my feeling on that would be

determined on how z finishes the year…..if he is the monster we all know he is, then i agree with you…..if he continues to stumble, i think lilly should go game 4

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, no MUST DECIDE NOW!!!!

:P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I changed my mind.

I dont even wanna talk about this topic until we clinch a playoff spot.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what

I was thinking all morning. You all need to chill and just enjoy for another month or so. I’ll start fussing over playoff rotations when our Magic Number hits 0, not a moment before.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry

but i am not superstitious…..i don’t believe that posting some stupid thing on bcb has ANY effect on the way the cubs play…..NONE, ZERO, ZIP

it’s a fun topic to discuss, if you don’t want to read about it, keep scrolling down

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

We already know

that stuff talked about on this board often leaks into the broadcast booth. If it gets too prevalant among the Cubs fans, it will get into the media, and if it gets inot the media it can get into the clubhouse and if it gets into the clubhouse the players can lose focus.

Win today, and the next today, and the next and things tale care of themselves

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT Usain Bolt aka my new favorite Olympic athlete actually runs hard for a whole race

and Breaks Michael Johnson’s WR in the 200M.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Was that before or after

his homerun turned into a single?

I kid, I kid.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

is bolt really his name?

or is this like when weather men rename themselves to something like joe winter

marketing 101 say what!

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

That no good

guess-sprinting hot-dog.

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jamacia should trade him right now

He isn’t helping them at all

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Just get rid of him. Re-build for 2012.

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent Game Last Night

Excellent start to what I hope will be an excellent homestand/next 9 games.

And by excellent, I mean – I hope we win 9 out of 9 :)

Harden’s been solid, hasn’t he? I was thinking about this last night – that while CC gets all the ESPN love, I think Harden’s been the better pitcher. I mean, I have no hard facts to base this assertion on (I’m too lazy to look ‘em up) but it seems to me that Harden has allowed fewer runs, struck out more, been more dominant than CC. Sure, CC has thrown a bunch of complete games (why was he throwing 130 pitches up 9-2 the other night?) but he has to because the Brewer pen sucks eggs. We don’t need Harden to pitch deep into games because we have the guys in the pen to bridge the gap.

I think I’d rather have Rich Harden over CC Sabathia.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

I still think the health issue favors CC. Harden has never put a ton of starts together before ihis arm starts barking.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Read the Sun-Times article...

…Al linked to in the recap for a little more background on Harden’s health history. I’m not saying my mind is completely at ease regarding his injury risk, but I’m not going to worry about it until I have a reason to.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

That article did explain a lot.

So far, I think the Cubs have done exactly right by Harden in keeping him healthy.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was either unaware...

…or failed to remember that much Harden’s injury history was related to a strain he suffered trying to field a ball – not throw one to the catcher. I applaud Lou’s efforts to keep Harden rested and fresh.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only worry to me is

Us v. Karstens…other than that, it’s all good.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT- Sorry if this has been posted already...

…But I had not seen it. Great NY Times article about Dempster, including this comment from DeRo- "I hope he stays, because his decision will impact other people’s decisions on whether they want to play here — because they enjoy being around him so much," DeRosa said. "He’s one of the driving forces behind our chemistry. To take him out of the clubhouse would cause a huge rift."

Check it out…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Read it too. The line to the bank

is filled with guys who said they wouldn’t go to a team because some guy leaving would upset the “chemistry”. Do you think there are potential FA’s out there saying, “I’m not going to the Cubs if they don’t sign Ryan Dempster.” I don’t think so.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, but I think DeRo

more meant guys that are already on the team, who may have deals that are up…That’s just how I interpreted it…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the same holds true. Players make

those statments, but they understand that it’s a business. If the best decision is to let Demp go to free agency because the team has a viable alternative, they may gipe a bit but they will get over it.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure

but I gotta figure that if we do go… all.. the.. WAY! then you do what you can to have the exact same team next year… capture lightning in that bottle twice.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to watch for the Gary Gaetti effect.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I worry about that with Edmonds

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

We got Pie

to take care of that.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they keep him

I hope they do. Not sure they will.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

but they’ve been more wrong than right this year — even in trading Gallagher, which I thought was a terrible idea at the time. So, I’ll hope.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Gallagher...

sad news from Minneapolis last night. Sean got lit up for 10 ERs by the Twinkies. And apparently the bullpen was tired because he was left in the game through five innings.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, I've though about this...

…but Gaetti only played 37 games as a Cub in ‘98 when he was so awesome…And for me, I don’t really see Edmonds’ defense, ESPECIALLY in Wrigley Field, falling off too much if he is back next year. I think the offensive rejuvenation has been more of an added bonus, especially the power.

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

It may be a moot point. If the Cubs

win it all, Edmonds will probably call it a career. I don’t really see a need for him to hang around unless he gets infected with the MJ-Brett Favre bug.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Were I a betting man (and I'm not)...

…I’d wager that we’re witnessing Jim Edmond’s final season – particularly if the Cubs go deep into the postseason. Just a hunch based on comments he’s made in interviews.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC, Edmonds said his game started coming back..

when he stopped taking his concussion meds. (Which got his bat going again around the time the Padres DFA’d him) If that’s the case I would think he has another season or two in him, health permitting. His .970 OPS as a Cub isn’t too shabby after all.

I suppose he might be in the position to ‘retire on top’ if circumstances present him that chance, but very few athletes can resist coming back for that ‘one more season’.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 20, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

but if he doesn't take his meds

his concussion might come back! Those are highly contagious, ya know… :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I had...

…mono for an entire summer once. Turns out I was just really bored.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

Every time I was tired/feeling sick at school, immediately it was blamed on mono. Turned out I was just hungover.

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

which would you rather have.....

face the brewers in the playoffs and yost still gets to manage next year

or

we don’t have to face the brewers in the playoffs, yost gets fired, and we no longer get to take advantage of his managerial skills

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

the second one.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

option B

because there’s no gaurantee the brewers would hire a competent manager, given the choice again.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'll vote for B, too.

Yost is going to go sooner or later anyway.

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by daver on Aug 20, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Option A

Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Aug 20, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the brewers are going to be any good next year anwaya

No Sheets. No CC. Yiardo coming off ACL surgery…

It could get dicey up north.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when Jay Bruce first came up and people went nuts because he had a nice first week?

At least 5 people I know told me that Jay Bruce would take the ROY from Soto. Seeing him last night striking out and misplaying that flyball, I just laughed remember when all of that junk I was told.

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by nji232 on Aug 20, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Bruce will be an all-star one day

Today is not that day.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Aug 20, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was that really a safety squeeze?

If I recall correctly, a safety squeeze is when the runner breaks for home on contact. Soto didn’t make his break for home until the ball was thrown to first. It was brilliant baserunning by Soto, not a squeeze play (which requires much less of a decision on the baserunner’s part). Probably nit picking, but I wanted you to know I actually read what you wrote ;)

by lohroffc on Aug 20, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

That was my thought.

And even if the throw had been perfect I still think Geo’s safe. Rookie of the Year all the way.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess

since a runner is supposed to “break on contact” in a safety squeeze, it would technically be a sacrifice bunt? Still could be called a squeeze though I suppose, since the runner scored…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

In last night's case

it’s a sacrifice either way since Dome advanced to 2nd (and then to 3rd on the play at the plate). But I agree that it didn’t look like a safety squeeze, more a smart play on Soto’s part to notice that no one was stopping him from following the 3B down the line, which left him within striking distance to dash home on the throw to first. Excellent fundamental baseball.

I’m under the impression that a traditional safety squeeze means that the runner at 3rd gets a good lead on the pitch, then breaks for home right after he sees the bunt is down, so you don’t risk the ‘suicide’ aspects of a missed, or popped-up bunt.

And how about some kudos for the camera crew that just managed to keep Soto in frame so we could see that play develop!

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 20, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sacrifice and great base running.

Soto must have noticed before the play how the SS was up the middle looking for the double play, leaving no one to cover third if the bunt comes to his side. Great baserunning comes by always thinking and anticipating possibilities. Just an awesome job there by Geo. And at the time it looked like it could be a 1-0 game, so it was huge for us, and probably demoralizing for the Reds.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

No,

the play you are describing is more like a suicide squeeze

by tootle on Aug 20, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Season Ticket Holders

Did the Cubs send out invoices for post season tickets yet?

by madeindetroit on Aug 20, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Traditionally arrives around Labor Day weekend

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by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That confirms it

The Tigers are liars. They said that MLB made them send me an invoice for postseason tickets (due 9/2) even though they are 10 1/2 games out of playoff contention.

by madeindetroit on Aug 20, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe the Cubs could invoice now if they wanted to

MLB notifies the teams in contention that they “can prepare for postseason play.” Only those teams can send invoices, etc. Not sure when MLB notifies the teams, but my guess is that it has already happened. The Cubs historically choose to wait until right before Labor Day. Now they have not had a lead this big (6 games) for a long time, so it will be interesting to see if they do it earlier this year.

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by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

I think MLB might have got the address wrong when notified the Tigers :)

by madeindetroit on Aug 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

...or the year

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, I'm guessing

that since tonight’s game is on WCIU, I have EI and won’t have access to the Cubs ‘cast – which means I get to watch the Reds broadcast. Luckily I have XM and can catch the words from Pat and Ron. I was hoping this game might get picked up on ESPN. C’est la vie.

I wish EI would find a way to carry the CIU broadcasts -they somehow manage to carry the Rangers and Astros local station casts.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Hope I can

get the Reds broadcast since I don’t get WCIU. I can make good use of the mute button.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can't wait

for some sweet fsn ohio action tonight. maybe i’ll just start hitting myself in the head with bricks now so i can save myself the pain.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off-topic

Not that any of you care, but I found out today that I made the promotion list to Staff Sergeant!! Woooohooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Congratulations!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sir.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

EVEN THOUGH

you are a Huskers fan, congrats!!!

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't call me Sir!

I’m not an officer… I work for a living! :)

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's a military discussion

Without good-natured ribbing between the NCO (select) corps and the Officer corps?

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

My dad respected but hated when he had to salute

some snot-nosed 2nd Lieutenant 18 years his junior. My dad was a Master Sargeant. I used to giggle when he saluted the young officers.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one upside is

By the time that snot-nosed butterbar became Captain, he probably realized just how much the SNCO’s know and were willing to teach him. We can just hope he remembers 15% of that knowledge that was passed on.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats.

Does this mean I have to do pushups?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

10 pushups for every Cubs victory

better get cracking!

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crikey, 770 and counting!

On the plus side, I’M GONNA BE RIPPED!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm actually trying to do this:

http://hundredpushups.com/index.html

but I’m afraid I’ll end up with massive arms… and still a 40" waistline.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That looks cool

thanks for the link. I might give this a shot myself.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well done soldier!

Are you going to become a celebrity too?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not soldier... I passed high school

I’m an “Airman” :)

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

And regarding celebrity status...

Not gonna happen, considering I’m male :)

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

what do three up

and three down mean to you, airman?

End of an inning.

:D Congrats

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

That, or Harden is pitching :)

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Niiiice >8)

Big dogs! Big dogs! Landing on my face!

I don’t know what that means…

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

Means more $ too. E-5 or E-6 right?

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, more money

It’s a promotion to E-5 (4 stripes). Base pay will increase about $200/mth, plus increases in overseas cost of living allowances, etc. I should hopefully sew on April-May timeframe

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, good Sue!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are so welcome.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

you look like you need a drink

Here’s an old style. I also have quality liquors available :)

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baileys...yum

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

plenty of that here!

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by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

is there a bad Sue?

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, she did say shit a time or two instead of poop..:)

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

if that's bad

I don’t wanna be good!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think there is

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 20, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only when Geo is in the room.

Then she’s nasty!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's Mz. Sue

369 if ya nasty!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys :D

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice medals

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if she

gets teased about her name?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

my wife and i were discussing this

she was pretty sure that Nastia would have heard plenty of “Nasty-a” names through the years.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they're both very nice...

…but my wife and I have respectfully removed “Nastia” and “Misty” from our list of contending names for our upcoming li’l Cubs Fan.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet...

…no one’s teasing her now…

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Her name? I doubt it....

her five-head? Most definitely.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you suggesting

Nasty-a has a larger than normal forehead?

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

She does

but it does not distract form how very pretty she is.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait

until she and Shawn Johnson and the rest of the team get awarded gold medals retroactively once the IOC decides that 3 of the Chinese team members are ineligible due to being 14.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish there

was a way to prove it.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

cut off a finger

and count the rings. :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might hurt

just a wee bit. ;-)

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's chinese

they’re stoic.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

apparently

it’s an open secret among the chinese media. SI.com had a story about it today. With some media pressure, it could happen…

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Linky?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Interesting stuff. Fat chance on the Chinese media breaking the story. China is opening up, but it’s got a long way to go.

No way do they talk about this unless they’re prepared to emigrate.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link.

The IOC could make sure they never host another Olympics but it won’t stop them from sending babies to future Olympics. Pretty sad they had to cheat to win.

Another thing that really bothered me about the Chinese athletes and their coaches. After competing they would hugh five each other and even that looked rehearsed. Drove me crazy.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, cause

THAT’s what I’m looking at…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

Seems a bit harsh.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently...

…her eight legs seems to attract undue attention, as well.

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Vitruvian Man.

(lest I sound pompous, I had the picture in my head but the name I was forced to look up)

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Pink Hat Guy (see Joe's sig line)...

…did anyone else hear him interviewed on Dave Kaplan’s postgame show on ’GN last night? I gotta admit – I was pretty impressed. He seems to genuinely love the Cubs, and he appeared to really know the team well. I think he also said something about how he auctions or sells off his pink hats and donates the money to cancer research. (Or did I dream that part?) He mentioned a few other interesting things, but my memory fails me.

He sounded younger and spoke more quickly than I imagined he would. I kinda had him pegged as this grumpy, grumbly older guy, but he came off as fairly youthful. I’ve come to love how he jumps up and yells when the ump makes a bad call, though I know a few people have mentioned that he’s kind of a jerk.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard it too...

I think he just ramdomly called in like anyone else. He did sound excited like many other fans would. And he did say he donates the hat proceeds to breast cancer research. I don’t know that much about him, but he did come off as a true fan, so he’s got that going for him.

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's cool

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on Aug 20, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

doh!

also, anything else you wanna know about pink hat guy, lemme know, him being my father and all.

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on Aug 20, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose he got you the job...

…working for Fontenot?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

mang?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, never seen it.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brace yourself...

…the movie geeks are about to jump all over you.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Say hello to my little friend!!!!!!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks daver.

Wish I could have heard him.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

PHG

He was there last night. I even pointed him out to my wife.

by rgonzale on Aug 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Mine doesn’t work

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, knew I was setting that up!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Pics

I really don’t understand how Kosuke can hit at all when he swings and misses looking so bad at times.

Keep rolling.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Aug 20, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Lilly/Marshall

What happens if we run into a team that can’t hit lefties? Who gets bumped, and who gets the start?

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

wow.

I don’t know. Lilly, unless it’s the Diamonbacks — oh, wait, they CAN hit lefties. :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know the Cards have a real problem with lefties...

but I doubt we see them.

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by Bump Bailey on Aug 20, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just read though quickly

and what a great board is going on today. Winning MUST take care of everything. Everyone is in such a good mood talking playoffs having fun. We’re like the fans on top of the world today. For me, it’s a little hard to think we have the best record and 29 games over .500. I never would have imagined!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 20, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Food for thought

The Cubs are 77-48, with 2 games against the Reds, 3 against the Nationals, 3 against the Pirates and 4 against the Phillies to be played in August.

If they go 9-3 in those 12 (a tall order, granted), they will end August with 86 wins. They ended 2007 with 85 wins.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

just another reason

why every cubs fan needs to take a deep breath and realize what a special this season has been and has the potential to be.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard to believe we are "supposed" to lose at least 12 more games

this season (according to the “every team will win 60…lose 60” theory).

It’s going to happen but, with this team, every game is a potential “shouldn’t lose” winner.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, most teams lose 60

The Mariners went 116-46 in 2001

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That team was

freaking awesome…The years that Brett Boone, Mike Cameron, Garcia, Moyer, Abbott and Sele had were UNREAL…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

shhhhh, don't tell anybody

but that team did not make it to the WS and was managed by Lou.

That Seattle team was AWESOME!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else following the Brewers-Astros game?

Parra v. Rodriquez.

End of 1, Brewers up 2-0, unfortunately.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah... Have the live box score going on.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

In between "working" yeah

Long way to go in that one. Parra’s struggled a bit and that bullpen . . . . 2 runs won’t win that game.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here.

I’ve fired up my mlb.tv account here at the office. Shhh!!! I think the IT guy is coming.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it is premature

but I am starting to worry less and less about the Brewers.

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I should put the lefty on the left and the right on the right, but if I call our CF “Jimmy Johnson” people might get confused.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 20, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind if the 2nd best NL team got eliminated, though

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. I still wouldn't want to face them in a short series.

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by Fishbone2 on Aug 20, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way CC ran out of gas in the playoffs last year

and the way they’re pitching him right now… he’s gonna have problems come Oct

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been looking at it on Gameday.

That Gabe Kapler is a good hitter. The Brewers have plenty of them….

by zevkalman on Aug 20, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how much of the Wittenmyer article is true regarding the A’s teammate and scout questioning his toughness.

Either way he has been a stud for us.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Aug 20, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I think everyone should...

…bookmark this image and use it in lieu of a sarcasm font.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's an idea.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sticking with mine from the "Big Bang Theory"

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"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good job, NA

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we please stop talking about the play-offs!

Lets focus on game 2 of this series!

This team is very good. Odds are good about our play off chances but we are still in the dog days of summer and there is a whole bunch of baseball to play.

Sincerely,

The 1969 Chicago Cubs

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I, for one

Welcome our 39 year old Choking in the Clutch Santo Overlords!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to remind them...

… that as a trusted radio personality, Santo can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.

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by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?

Sincerely,

Jim Mora

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playoffs? Don't talk about playoffs. Are you kidding me? Playoffs?

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

remember

the Playoffs are ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The playoffs are coming

Magic Number
Magic Number
Magic Number is 31 (division) or 28 (playoff spot)
Magic Number
Magic Number

Bring on your superstitions, hexes, jinxes, and curses. Bring them to me, man!

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's what i'm talking about wnielsen

to the people who say “don’t talk about the playoffs,” stop thinking you’re so significant that one little comment you write on bcb will some how have an affect on how the cubs play…..there are NO jinxes, NO hexes, NO curses….so when a black cat stares you down, stare back

if you don’t want to partake in the playoff talk, keep scrolling…..easy enough solution

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Playoffs.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

welp that's it swl

we’re coming after you if the cubs don’t make the playoffs……the baseball gods just saw that!

by cubswynn on Aug 20, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

A torch-bearing mob descends on the San Diego area...

…conducting a house-by-house search for anyone with a licensed copy of Photoshop.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, SWL

Tell them Hunter Pence is in Milwaukee

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with much of what you said

Except for there being no Jinx

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sayin'

I believe in all that either. My point is that I’ve been way too high on this team in the past only to be terribly disappointed at the end. Thus, I’d rather keep my expectations and enthusiasm to just below fever pitch until they get there. Is that so bad?

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No....

and we’re still gonna make the playoffs.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Yost Defending His Decision To Have Sabathia Pitch For 130 Pitches
Yost also dismissed the notion that the team was seeking to get maximum output from Sabathia, given the likelihood that he will sign a meaty free-agent contract elsewhere once the season ends. “I would never do that to anybody,” Yost said.

See the full article here

by zevkalman on Aug 20, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

he means

“just anybody”. He’ll only do it to guys who can throw 130 pitches CONSISTENTLY.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yost added:

“And you know what? It’s really rude of you to ask. I mean, if your neighbor was letting his wife throw 130 pitches, would you go over and knock on his door and tell him not to? Of course not! Now get the hell out of my office.”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yost is like the Brewers version of Dusty

but without the wrist bands, toothpick and “dude.”

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

COUGHCOUGHbu!!sh!tCOUGHCOUGH

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 20, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

OT- SO I just realized

that Harden’s name is actually “James Richard Harden.” Which begs the obvious question, why the HELL haven’t we called him J.R. Harden? I mean, am I the only one who likes the notion of this?

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 20, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

i prefer dick harden

or jim dick harden

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on Aug 20, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer Randy Bush :)

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I prefer Randy Bush also. But there's nothing wrong with preferring Dick Harden...

…just comes down to personal tastes, and we’re all very accepting here :-)

by zevkalman on Aug 20, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man...

…let’s hope there’s never a play at the plate in which Harden slides into Bush. We’ll never hear the end of it.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just makes me wonder...

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by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

3-2 now

thanks to the immortal reggie abercrombie.

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by Bill Potter on Aug 20, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could do with a 7 game lead in the division after today

Go Astros!!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I would be happy with a quality start from Lilly

Let the Brewers do what they will do.

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They should DFA Ryan Braun...

…and just let Kapler play left.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers got lucky with Kapler

that he came back and has been productive. A year ago, he’s coaching or managing in the Red Sox system

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was it a close play?

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

were the pixels close?

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was somewhat close...

…but Loretta was clearly out.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

worth taking a chance with 2 out, then

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems to me that Parra was at about 90 pitches

walked 4 so far. Astros should be into that Brewer pen in an inning or so.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Parra

94 pitches

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

can I be petty?

Do you think Braun plucks his eyebrows?

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

Check out his portrait here. What do you think?

by zevkalman on Aug 20, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I see lip gloss in that portrait ;)

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto waxes his

eyebrows and wears guy liner in the off season.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

He wore it at Cubs convention.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

guyliner

rofl…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what they call it. :D

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Was talking with the wife about this just a couple weeks ago. What I don’t get though is why it needs a different name just because a guy wears it? You want to wear eye liner, that’s fine with me. I don’t care. But don’t call it “guy” liner, that’s just absurd.

There was another product like this, too. Sue, any help? Oh yeah, got it: manscara. Sheesh!

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

Y’know, I might give it a try. It can’t be any worse than my personal landscraping skills, i.e. my yard sucks.

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have not heard

of manscara but I guess it makes sense since they refer to eye liner as guy liner.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL! Only if

you really want to.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife mentioned the same

thing about his eyebrows the first time she saw him. I didn’t believe her but I guess it’s true. So much for the manly-man catcher!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what guyliner is

I think I need to ask my undergrads what this guy liner stuff is all about :)

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think the

other guys on the team get on him about it?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geo says:

Im in ur purs. Stealin ur makup.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if his

wife is pissed when her eye liner comes up missing?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's metro, man!

Or, to us slightly older, he’s:

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geo - Suave!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And y'know?

His name is not “Rico Suave”! He’d like you to know that. In fact, he was so adamant that we all knew his name he called the 2nd song on his follow-up album, “My Name Is Not Rico”.

Quick trivia: what’s his name?

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gerardo

The only reason that I know that is I have a friend that I call Rico Suave sometimes and I sent him the file.

No idea what the last name is.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw him on VH-1's One Hit Wonder show

I think he’s selling T-Shirts in Tijuana now.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could get an import/export deal

with Vanilla Ice

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very nice

Last name doesn’t matter, as he only went by “Gerardo.” I came to my Gerardo knowledge through a friend in the recording biz that happened to be working at one of the studios in Chicago and found the master tapes for “My Name Is Not Rico” in the basement of the joint with a bunch of other cool/meaningless trash.

BTW, Badger, you win Gerardo’s entire record collection in both English and Spanish. You also get the DVD sets and trip to Ecuador to snorkel for two (the second being, of course, Mr. Suave himself). Enjoy!

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn,

next time I won’t enter the contest!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not a collection. That's a medly

of his geatest hit.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a difference?

That 2nd album also has tracks titled “Intro #1-6”. Six intros, eh? We’re dealing with someone who knows how to milk it. Yeah.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I heard he was going

to release a remix version also.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

The long-awaited, “Intro #7”!

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The remix is entitled -

“I’ll be Rico or anyone else if you pay me”

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rivera

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's be Geraldo

Our man’s last name is Mejia, I believe.

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by Kegler on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

similar, though

He’s searching for his career in Al Capone’s vault . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

when football players

wear earrings in both ears, manly-man means something different from 1955.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's differeent. They're just showing

how much bling they have. Do you notice that the erring are always large carat diamonds?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Day Baseball

Boy do the Mariners suck!

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

What a difference 7 years make

Going from 116 wins in 2001 to the second worst record in 2008.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about....

…the Rays going from a MLB-worst record last year to the MLB-best (as of last night)?

by Shawon O Meter on Aug 20, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping it's a Cubs-Rays WS

I live in South Florida. Would love to see the Cubs in St. Petersburg (if I can score tickets).

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 20, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howry lent to the Brewers to pitch the final 4 innings

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

That's fat strikes out.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last night was a gift

I still believe that we shouldn’t count on the Brew Crew handing us any more like last night. The schedule looks way to inviting for them.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 20, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Still got to play the games

See: 2004 Cubs

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll be interesting, certainly

I think a lot will be predicated on the status of Braun’s back. He can carry that team. If he’s out/injured, it isn’t going to help them.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crew done in the 6th

Time for some Astros offense

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris Sampson in for Wandy

end of 6, still 3-2 Brewers.

Erstad, Wiggington and Loretta due

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Loretta is going to go yard here

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

that one's

not going to go the distance.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh, Rexie

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So now we know why the Cubs have an average record in 1 run games...

Last night was a perfect example.

Instead of possibly winning a one run game, we blow it open and win 5-0. What are you going to do, complain? Who doesn’t like the add on runs?

Bueller? Bueller?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 20, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

buell-mike

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was actually sort of hoping we'd not score an win 1-0

just to prove we can.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

villanueva's up 2nd in the bottom of 7

I suspect Ned will PH for him and the Stros will get a crack at another BP arm.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

DAMNIT!

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup, Hardy homers.

5-2 Brewers in bottom of 7th.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, that certainly sucks

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Five runs with 4 hits?

I hate the Brewers!

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

What kind of world do we live in

where we can’t count on the Astros to beat the Brewers! :)

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget, they just took out one of their two most effective relievers

And Torres has had some health issues

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be

the real world.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roids vs Roids in that AB

Winner…Roids!

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Give Miggy Stardust some credit...

…that was an awesome bunt.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by daver on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

see, the Stros

could still win this. :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you're saying there's hope.

;)

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roids vs. Scared Little Girl this AB

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

GAGNE IS GONNA BLOW IT

:)

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Blow what?

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

twsa(sked)?

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 20, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um, hopefully the lead

and thats it

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game day go Boom!

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Yahoo and ESPN, too

Is Gagne injured, maybe?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gagne hits Berkman

2 on, no out

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

FRom the Cubby-Blue blog:

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Soto will drink your milkshake, too.

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

not my shamrock shake!!!!!!

curses!

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hunter Pence sucks at baseball

DFA hime now!

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Tie run at the plate. COme on Roid boy!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Dangit....

bases juiced against Gagne…. Astros dont score

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh

Losers!

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't tell Ed Wade

he thinks they’re still in this.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time for Gagne

to retch up another blown save.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 20, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

top of 9, still 5-2

Astros have Ausmus, Erstad and Wiggington due

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

last inning

was their chance

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't have faith in that murderer's row?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

So much for Cooper's prediction

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they'll hire him if Yost is let go

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

assuming the Astros fire Coop?

Possibly.

I’d think the Brewers might want to hire someone like Robin Yount as their next manager. Or Ted Simmons.

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, but we really don't want Yost to lose his job

as Brewers manager, really. His being manager can only help us :)

by DWChaney on Aug 20, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but if he does...

Although, Pat Listach is highly regarded as a minor league manager, and he has Brewer ties.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 20, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on Ty. Would you like

to tie me up with some of your ties, Ty?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

i think

you’re on the wrong blog

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Aug 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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