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Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Thursday 8/21, 1:20 CT

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Cincinnati Reds
@ Chicago Cubs

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008, 1:20 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Josh Fogg vs Carlos Zambrano

Mostly cloudy with a 30-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing from right to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

Complete Coverage >

Interesting Barry Rozner column today in which he:

  • Calls out Alfonso Soriano for not running hard enough on the fly to left last night;
  • Says Lou is frustrated with Kosuke Fukudome and may start giving him days off.
Bruce Miles writes about Geovany Soto and also says:
  • September callups are likely to be Kevin Hart, Koyie Hill, Felix Pie, Michael Wuertz, Micah Hoffpauir... and Angel Guzman. That last one would surprise me, but maybe Guzman IS ready after all.
  • Former #1 pick Mark Pawelek apparently upset the organization because, according to Bruce, "club officials said Pawelek did not acquire a passport in time for a team trip to Canada." Pawelek has been sent home.
Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
C. Zambrano
Cubs		 vs. Josh Fogg
J.
Fogg
Reds
12-5 W-L 2-5
3.38 ERA 7.71
107 SO 38
53 BB 24
15 HR 13
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Zambrano 12-5 24 24 0 0 0 0 157.0 144 62 59 15 53 107 3.38 1.25
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Josh Fogg 2-5 19 11 0 0 0 0 65.1 83 59 56 13 24 38 7.71 1.64

The Cubs will get to face Josh Fogg for the second time this year. The first time, on April 16 at Wrigley Field, they had seven hits, two walks and nine runs off him in two-plus innings. Fogg's lifetime ERA vs. the Cubs is 6.33 in 21 starts and players currently on the team are hitting .364 against him, including Derrek Lee (.441), Jim Edmonds (.429), Aramis Ramirez (.333, 4 homers, 16 RBI), and even Carlos Zambrano (3-for-7).

Z, for his part, acknowledges his mechanical problems:

"I’ve been rushing a little too much and I’ve been working with the pitching coach on correcting some things in my approach," Zambrano said.

He faced the Reds on July 9 at Wrigley Field and allowed only one hit in eight innings -- a HR to Adam Dunn, who's no longer on the team. Dunn had been a particular tormentor of Z's -- only Edwin Encarnacion (10-for-28, 2 HR) among current Reds has hit him well.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago only -- no Reds TV, so EI viewers will see Len & Bob. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 1:15 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 2:15, 3:15 and 4 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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alright go Cubbies!! Win this series

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Aug 21, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Curses...

I wanted to be first :(

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shhhh....

We don’t like to talk about curses here.

by SuperContext on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good afternoon/morning everybody

time to win another series.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, BCB, whaddya say?

Bats are sure to come alive today. Why? Z will be in the box.

Go Cubs Go.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weather

I think our power outage has been about night games with the wind blowing in. A little sunshine should pe up the bats!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have been saying that Soriano does not hustle...

But I bet lambasted on this site. As long as he hits then he is excused. Nonsense.

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 11:42 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Enough...

…I’m tired of the “Soriano doesn’t hustle” talk. I happen to think he’s a pretty damn good ballplayer who occasionally makes gaffes in baserunning or fielding, but DEFINITELY cares, gives good effort, and adds a lot to the team.

Let’s just drop this one, and all agree to disagree, okay?

by Chadnudj on Aug 21, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LSA

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 11:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK...

let’s instead talk about Theriot’s skills as SS ;-}

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

I couldn’t hear you over the applause :)

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 12:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The white haired dude

In the fifth row agrees with me

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Believe it or not...

…hustling is a skill that all ballplayers don’t have. Some guys just aren’t comfortable going full bore all the time because they aren’t wired that way. I know it sounds simple – just run hard, but the bottom line is, not everyone can force themselves to do it all the time.

I don’t think Soriano tells himself to take it easy, he just doesn’t have the motor to go all out all the time.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2008 12:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano is a typical multimillion dollar player

he goes out there, does whatever it is that his natural abilities allow him to do, and nothing more, now I am not complaining… our record indicates how important he is to the team when he is in the lineup

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 21, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano CONSTANTLY needs a shoe shoved up his ass to play the game the right way

Right now Soriano is one of his patented stupid streaks. He is maddening to watch at times. And if he vaporizes in the playoffs again this year?? Well then I’m going to take the kid gloves off.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes,

you’ve shown remarkable restraint so far.

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need someone to play Carlton Fisk to Alfonso Soriano's Deion Sanders

Remember when Fisk of the White Sox got out of his catcher crouch and screamed at Sanders of the Yankees to “run out the fuckin’ ball”? Well we need someone on this team to do the same damned thing. $136 million for ballplayer who doesn’t run hard and gets picked off of first base. Soriano drives me insane. I do not like him and I will never like him. And that is my perogative.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou needs to

get up Soriano’s ass and pull out that dead squirell

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they should cut him.

Right now. Pitching is kings, anyways.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose he wasn't running hard...

…on Tuesday night when he blew past Mike Quade’s stop sign and scored that run. Yeah, that’s what I thought. Please be quiet – the adults are talking.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He RAN through a stop sign dumbass

He did the WRONG thing dumbass. He got lucky dumbass. He should have been reprimanded in the dugout by Piniella dumbass.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So now we're advocating Soriano blowing off the 3rd base coach...

To go along with not being able to make an easy catch in left field last night. To go along with his dogging it on the basepads. To go along with him being picked off of 1st base two times within a week. To go along with him standing in the batter’s box to admire a line drive off the wall that he thought was a home run. To go along with him putting every Cub hitter in jeopardy because his actions so infuriate the opponent that they can’t wait to go head hunting for Cubbies.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

An easy catch in left field?

Yes. You are right. You win. And putting every Cubs player in jeopardy? Yea. That too.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and his cannon of an arm in LF,

putting Soto in jeopardy when runners round third.

his team leading HRs, putting children in the bleachers in jeopardy. Why won’t somebody think of the children.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 21, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What "easy catch" are you referring to?

Not the bloop that he and Theriot were going for, I hope. Do you even watch the games? And what exactly are “basepads”?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stop encouraging him.

Let…it…go…

Happy thoughts.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've been neuteured

Unfortunately this board is populated with clueless wonders who never played even an inning of the game as a kid who profess to be experts. You’re a tool.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh let it go

You are no better or worse than anyone else here

by Stan Cox on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's all an act

He just wants the reactions.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

But he seems more offensive today somehow

by Stan Cox on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See below...

"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08

by Bildo1805 on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somebody please pull the

plug on Blue Mike. His act is really getting tiring.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's just ignore him, I say...

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which is too bad

Because sometimes he actually shows insight.

What happens, though, is this breeds personal attacks — like the fanpost that got deleted last night.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

When there is no name calling going on he can make sense.

by Stan Cox on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know the guy doesn't like Soriano,

but you don’t have to be a jerk about it. Every ballplayer has shortcomings. D-Lee hits into DP’s, Dome doesn’t have any power, Theriot gets thrown out too much. The fact is, there is no perfect player. When I see him I’ll bow down and worship his ass. Until then, you appriciate a player for what he does, critique him constructively and shut the hell up!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 21, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh here we go...

Would you please just go away or stop bitching?! Pick one of the two!

by storkysm on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just guessing here...

but someone’s probably just been told they’re going to get banned and they’re going on a Koresh-like spree of namecalling to enjoy their last few moments.

"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08

by Bildo1805 on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here we go again

you’re in fine form today. Someone kick your dog?

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've been neutered?

Who are you, my proctologist?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Daver,

I’m no doctor, but I don’t think proctologists look there. But I’m with you in this argument.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, you're right.

Somehow I can’t help thinking of the part of the anatomy that proctologist do look at when addressing BlueMike.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe your urologist...

Maybe Blue Mike has a new career. BCB poster wasn’t paying enough.

by storkysm on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now it makes sense...

Blue Mike played “ball” in college…means he was studying to be a urologist.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adam Dunn?

Brant Brown?
Carlos Lee?

Really? Interesting…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice...

same wavelength i guess :)

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah,

Just like Adam Dunn or Carlos Lee.

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or Ryan Braun?

He would have butchered it…

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

no he would have glided to it like a Gazelle, with Blue Mike riding on his back…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice...

Hilarious visual.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bit harsh, innit?

God, can’t we get along for one thread.

Just one?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just for suggesting that:

Technical balk.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Son of a bitch.

Looks like another come-from-behind win is in order today.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TWSS...

…or he said…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would had been bases loaded

No outs with A-RAM coming to the plate. He risked the first out at home. He did not want to get picked off at third

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

I thought I was on your ignore list, DUMBASS.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahaha.

Excellent observation daver…you are much more well-spoken than me on this issue today…And we THANK you for that, Walgreens…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bobby Cox...

…has sent him that message twice already with balls at his head. Once last year when he posed at home plate watching one of his 3 dingers and the one this year when he didn’t run out a sure double.

Again, I don’t think Soriano does his loafing on purpose (ala Deion or others), he just doesn’t have it in him to hustle all the time. The talk Lou had with him obviously only had a temporary effect, and Soriano has been this way his entire career (he ain’t gonna change now).

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO!

DON’T TAKE THE KID GLOVES OFF!!!

What WILL Soriano do if MDBNIU, the blog-poster, takes the kid gloves off?

The horror!

"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08

by Bildo1805 on Aug 21, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano v. Blue Mike

That’s a toughie. Blue Mike played ball in college. I’m not even sure Soriano went to college.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carry the team for weeks at a time?

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see any buttons on those gloves...so...

Oh, SNAP!

"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08

by Bildo1805 on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Being in Tucson

I don’t see every game but the games I do see it seems like Soriano just doesn’t hustle to the balls that are hit to him. I think he assumes that the batter will reach second no matter what then why run to the ball any harder than I need too. I don’t buy the excuse that the leg injury is still a concern to him. According to some who posted here, he ran right through the hold signal at third base so I think he can run (hustle) when he feels like it.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Aug 21, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worst part about a Cubs loss

complaining starts early.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kinda ugly last night on here...

Soriano sucks, Theriot sucks, Lee sucks, Dome sucks…..gets old really fast.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's one of the reasons

I stay out of the game threads. Plus the comments come so fast that it’s hard to follow, watch the game, and work or watch my little girl all at the same time.

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I generally either watch the game OR am on the thread.

This is a great place to watch a game when you cant watch the game

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just Win, Baby

Fogg: 0-3 with a 10.19 ERA over his last four starts.
Just win.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Aug 21, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just win indeed

a win today means a series win, and that’s what the Cubs need to do – win series. You are going to have a cold night with the bats every so often and lose a game or two, but winning series is a recipe for success.

by SuperContext on Aug 21, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm rooting for him to pitch

2.1 weak innings for the Reds today…

by Archie on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rain Rain Go Away?

A Lot of rain to the south, lets hope Wrigley stays dry today.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 61 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 21, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good afternoon!

Looks like the game should start on time, but after that, it can be dicey: Radar

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn, that doesnt look good.

Z vs Fogg. Please no RAIN!!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's starting to cloud over a bit now

but with that fancy schmancy drainage system they’ll probably play through a monsoon like the one a few weeks ago

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Game is on FSN Ohio

For anyone living in the Reds territory who might be blacked out on EI or MLB.tv.

Eamus Catuli!

by wrigley_boy on Aug 21, 2008 11:59 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

free keychain day

to the first 10,000 fans at wrigley!

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

drat.

i could have completed my keychain-sharpie collection if i’d made today’s game.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone hear the Theriot interview?

On ESPN radio a little while ago. I missed it. Just wonder what his take was on the play with Sori was last night.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did...

He said Soriano does’nt know the meaning of the word hustle

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or "Scrappy".

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Aug 21, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or "pasta diving".

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I'm currently getting Dish Network's TurboHD installed,

and with it I get regional sports networks, including Comcast HD. I’m in Madison, so in theory I should get the game, right? I have so little idea how this works. I know they said that the regional sports networks are good for games only, so IMO that implies I should get this game. Any thoughts/help/opinions?

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When we had

Dish we got CSN here in Iowa. Check your guide and see if it shows it.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Iowa

is Cub territory so you can see it. Madison is Brewers territory and Cubs games will be blacked out.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

It will be blacked out. Sorry. You need Extra Innings for that, and Dish doesn’t offer Extra Innings.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So then what's the point of offering the regional sports networks..

if I can’t even see games on them?

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is hard to say...

but i just got direct tv and asked about extra innings and they wanted to sell me the 1/2 season package with a month left in the season. I almost bit on that one.

by graceunderpressure on Aug 21, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not Dish it's MLB and the territory thing...

You’ll get all the other programming on Comcast just not the games. I have the same problem in Milwaukee.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the thing:

It specifically says that you only get games, no other programming. So if I’m blacked out of the games, and I don’t get any other programming, what the hell am I paying $5 a month for?

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Channel automatically comes in the Silver Package...

You don’t pay extra for Comcast Chicago… at least I didn’t.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Check the guide thingy...

If it says MLB at 1:00, I would press record, and then it should set up record or say it’s blacked out in your area.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And what exactly is "TurboHD"?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HD

that can run really fast.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's just their odd name for their new HD-only package.

Every channel offered in it is in HD. So I’m crossing my fingers that I get the game today in beautiful hi def.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT question:

So you don’t get non-HD channels, like Comedy or E?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct.

The only thing I’m mad about is Comedy Central. Every other channel I watch is in HD, and I get a lot of movie channels (HBO/Max/Showtime…) in HD. So I’m pretty excited.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But

soon enough every channel should be HD. So you’re ahead of the curve. Sorry for being impolite, but may I ask how much this service costs?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a problem:

There are like 3 packages (Bronze/Silver/Gold). I got Silver, which is i think like 33 a month. Another 5 for locals in HD. And then I added the movie channels (Cinemax was free, each group is 10 bucks). I think I’m around 75 a month, but I assume most people wouldn’t go nuts on the movie channels like I did.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the same thing. You'll get Comedy Central it just won't be in HD...

We still get standard channels with turbo HD.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tough one run loss

yesterday night when Ted went deep into the game, but the bats went to sleep as they have about once a week since the All Star Break. The Cubbies will get it together and smash the Fogg out of Wrigley today and win the seventh consecutive series today and look for some Nats to invade Wrigley this weekend. Let’s take care of this one….then think about throwing the Octopi on the field this weekend.

Mike+Milton+Eamus Catuli = AC000000

by Cub's Paperboy on Aug 21, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope Z has

it all together today and I have faith the team will get a win.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOOKING FORWARD TO

and am excited about today’s day game. cubs will get’er back on track and re-commence the march to valhalla.

GO CUBS! GO SHARK!

by brian custer on Aug 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, are you suggesting

that this cub team is somehow affiliated with the ancient Norse gods?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Aug 21, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineups

RedLegs:

Dickerson – LF
Keppinger – SS
Bruce – RF
Phillips – 2B
Votto – 1B
Encarnacion – 3B
Patterson – CF
Bako – C
Fogg – P

Cubs
Soriano – LF
Theriot – SS
Lee – 1B
Ramirez – 3B
Edmonds – CF
DeRosa – 2B
Fukudome – RF
Blanco – C
Zambrano – P

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Z should be batting 7th.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure

if you’re serious or not…

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 21, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neither am I...

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is rushing too much...

…really a mechanical problem necessarily?

by Old Style & Ivy on Aug 21, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think so

If you go at a pace that you don’t normaly do, I would expect that things might get out of wack…release points, arm angles, etc…

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 21, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I constantly do that

with my golf swing

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the "other zambrano'

-victor – (of scott kazmir trade fame) was out of baseball for a while, but has made it all the way back to AA in the yankees’ system. maybe we don’t care…

by brian custer on Aug 21, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last I heard...

…there was a chance that he’ll start for the Yankees on Saturday.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 21, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i heard that

also. victor & the yankees deserve each other.

by brian custer on Aug 21, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yesterday was a true tough luck loss

Cincy should not have scored a run:

1. Strike three thrown to the backstop – which allowed the runner to go to 3rd, but more importantly prevented the 2nd out of the inning from being recorded. The runner on 3rd would score on a groundout.
2. Lucky bloop double – maybe Soriano gets to it if he runs hard, but probably not.

Luck is part of the game. Yesterday we didn’t have any. Forget it. Let’s go get the W today!

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 21, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano is a terrible outfielder

In tight ballgames in the late innings he needs to be removed for Reed Johnson.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because lord knows

we wouldn’t want his bat in a tight ballgame.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can this game today begin...

so Sori can hit a lead off grand slam to shut us all up

by graceunderpressure on Aug 21, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He will hit a grand slam single

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 21, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just hate the extremes, ya know?

no problem with wanting more hustle, but when people are out for blood…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its not obvious that reed johnson would have made that catch

I was watching, and at the time I thought Soriano could have had it, but on the reply later, it just looked like it fell in no-man’s land.

In any case, Soriano’s bat produces more run than his glove gives up, so I would only remove him in very limited situations.

by SuperContext on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed..

His bat more than makes up for his outfield play. He isn’t a horrible outfielder, there are worse out there than Sori, but you only take him out late if you have to, but i’d still rather have his bat late in games then Reed’s, nothing against Reeds bat

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ladies and Gentlemen...

I introduce you to the official BCB IDIOT!

by tomboycub on Aug 21, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First!

Go Cubs!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 21, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But...but...those are the pitchers.

Not that I disagree with the sentiment.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Pitching is Zambrano, King is that boxing guy

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Aug 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where is Marquis?

Is he one of the kids looking up at it?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Might as well

Jump! Cue Van Halen…

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 21, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah that was WAY OT or yeah it was sad? :)

Just messing with you Emilie.

by Archie on Aug 21, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow...

4 pitch walk.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Aug 21, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone know what dates...

…the World Series is scheduled to be played this season?

"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper

by ryno HOF 2005 on Aug 21, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Z & Blanco

What’s up with Blanco catching Z this start? Trying to get Z back in a rhythm or what? I thought Geo had been catching him most of his starts.

by TheNotoriousJJ on Aug 21, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Day game after a night game

"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08

by Bildo1805 on Aug 21, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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