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Banishing Echoes: Cubs 3, Reds 2

On September 30, 2004, as the wild-card contending Cubs were melting down, they had to, absolutely had to, beat the Reds at Wrigley Field to keep any sort of postseason hopes alive (after having lost the previous day, they had fallen half a game behind the Astros).

And in the twelfth inning, after Mark Prior (can't even call him The Former Employee here -- it was one of his finest Cub moments) had pitched nine magnificent innings, striking out sixteen, Javier Valentin stood in the batter's box against Kyle Farnsworth with two out and a runner on second base. Valentin smacked a double down the right field line, breaking a 1-1 tie, and the ballpark fell silent; though the Cubs did get the tying and winning runs on base in the last of the twelfth, you just knew the fight had gone out of them. The 2-1, 12-inning loss finished any realistic hopes that Cub team had of the postseason, and since then Valentin has been a particular nemesis of the Cubs; his lifetime averages against the Cubs coming into today's game are .303/.384/.566 with 6 HR and 20 RBI in 99 AB, his best marks against any team that he's faced for more than 28 career AB.

So when Valentin stepped into the batter's box at Wrigley Field today with two out and a one-run Cub lead in the ninth against Kerry Wood, one of only four Cubs remaining from that 2004 team, I worried.

No worries! Wood caught Valentin looking, his second strikeout of the inning, posting his 26th save in a 3-2 Cubs win over the Reds, putting them back at 29 games over .500 and registering their seventh consecutive series win, done in two hours and fourteen minutes, the fastest game of 2008 -- and maybe that was because of the little rainshower that had the umbrellas up and down most of the game, reminiscent of the rain that fell during Wood's 20K game on May 6, 1998. It never rained very hard, but maybe the players picked up the pace a little bit because they didn't want to be out there too long if it did begin raining any harder.

The Cubs scored all their runs in the first three innings off Josh Fogg -- whose ERA went down despite giving up three runs in four innings -- one at a time, scoring on another DP-Lee ball. Part of the reason for the 24 GIDP for Lee is Ryan Theriot's .394 OBA -- if there are more people on base ahead of a hitter like Lee, he's going to hit into more DP. The major league season record holders in GIDP -- Jim Rice and Henry Aaron -- are good hitters, as is the club record holder, Ron Santo (27 in 1973, and that's probably going to fall soon).

Mark DeRosa hit a solo HR in the 2nd, increasing his career-best season total to 15 (DeRo is only one RBI short of tying his career best set in 2006 with Texas, and also made a slick defensive play today, saving a first-inning run), and then Z slammed his fourth of the year and 16th of his career, putting him one ahead of Mike Hampton as the leader among active pitchers, and tying him with Jim Kaat, Schoolboy Rowe and Jim Tobin for 15th place on the all-time pitcher home run list. (Note: both Rowe and Tobin hit other HR not as pitchers.) Z's season average went up nine points, from .357 to .366.

The Reds chipped away with a Jay Bruce HR in the sixth and then Joey Votto hit a Carlos Marmol pitch somewhere into orbit -- OK, just onto Sheffield, but it was quite a blast, making it 3-2. Marmol got hit pretty hard today; fortunately, all but Votto's ball were caught.

Z threw pretty well today; his command was shaky in the first three innings, when he issued two walks, but he settled down and gave up only six hits in all and four walks, including one to the nearly-unwalkable Corey Patterson (11 walks in 274 PA coming into today's game). He and Lou both said in the press conference that they were satisfied, but that Z would continue to work on mechanics. The win today was his first in August in almost two years, since August 24, 2006.

Today was my son Mark's 13th birthday and his personal record moved to 11-1 (yes, he will be at all three games of the Nationals series). Also, nice to meet BCB reader SteveABQ, in from (as you might have guessed) Albuquerque for three games. He told me he's always lived there, never in Chicago; he's one of the many of you who became Cubs fans because of the nationwide reach of WGN. Cubs Nation celebrates tonight, 5.5 games in first place. Onward.

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cool

what a great way to spend a birthday! happy birthday.

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, Al...

…I haven’t actually read your recap yet. But that headline is awesome. All right, I’ll start reading now.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Hope you like the recap, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap as always, Al.

And happy birthday to your son! Listening to the audio, I found this game a bit tedious and frustrating – as did Ron Santo – but all’s well that ends well. Another series win against a team the Cubs should definitely beat.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually...

santo is what made listening to the game more annoying in my opinion. he just had a bad feeling about today and could not let it go. OH GEEZ!

GEE WHIZ

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He mentioned during the broadcast...

…that he got home really late last night and had a hard time getting up this morning. So I think he was perhaps a bit sleep deprived. He was definitely at his teeth-gnashing best (or, worst, depending on your perspective). I think he wanted the team to score 10 runs and they…just…wouldn’t.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well. who didn't want them to score 10 today?

But yeah. Santo obviously wasn’t feeling quite right about the game today. Weird vibes or something.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

That’s a scary looking face!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

tell your boy happy birthday from the one that gives his dad so much heartburn

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ancient History

Like you said, Al, only four people from that team are on this one. (Wood, Lee, Ramirez and Zambrano, I think) It’s a different team, and what happened in 2004 has nothing to do with what happens to this team.

by Old Style & Ivy on Aug 21, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta agree..it's a nice coinkidink and all

But even if Valentin comes through, it means nothing.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe, tho

that explains why Santo was so freakin’ nervous.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santo nervous???

STOP THE PRESSES!

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOSH.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All of you are right.

It IS a different team. We’ve seen that all year. As a fan, I like to see previous tormentors put in their place.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wha?

Valentin struck out twice in the 9th inning?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no

he was wood’s 2nd strikeout of the inning.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got a couple

of technical balks, is all. Extra assessed strikes, and all that.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummmm you should be punished al

11-1 record when your son is at games?? why in the world is he not at more games?? no excuses we need that kinda lucky charm at every game. get that boy to every weekend,playoff, and WS game from here on out.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who needs school? Who needs sleep?

Tell that boy that so long as he is under your roof, he goes to games! School can WAIT!

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Fortunately for him (and maybe for the Cubs) his school doesn’t start till September 2. He’ll likely be at almost every game till then.

Good enough for now?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and I might have to ask him to get a job to pay for the tickets!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you let him read or post here? Just wondering...

my 11 year old knows about this place, and he follows along sometimes when I’m at home and on here.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's seriously worthy of

a call to DCFS

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark has posted here a couple of times.

Not recently, though. I know he reads my posts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming you're being sarcastic...

…please remember to use the sarcasm indicator:

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

I would have thought a thread that included me suggesting Al’s kid doesn’t need to go to school would NOT be viewed as serious when I suggested that allowing a minor on here is child abuse.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First I forgot the game was early...

…then I turn it on at about the 2:05 mark…and missed damn near the entire game. Ahhhh.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 21, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I understand the frustration

but you really didn’t miss much, Dan. It was a headachey kind of game. Thank goodness we won.

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Headachey? Did you just make that up?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a good word!!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOGG

WE LIT HIM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For the first 3 innings anyway.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES YES YES

well 4 innings 3 runs is good enough.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Onward indeed

things aren’t finished this season, we have a loooooooong way to go. I’m not starting football season this year until November BTW!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 21, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Especially considering how bad the Bears look…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

They look offensive on offense… could be a long year of ugly grind it out football.

Every team in the leagues gone spread offense w/ the ability to score points… and we’re stuck in the grind it out phase still. :sigh:

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'll look good early

because that defense is still top-notch, but when exaustion/injuries hit around Colombus Day, it’ll be Bad News Bears…

(Sorry about the terrible pun)

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one's going to be able to do anythng behind that horrible line.

God. I’m glad the Cubs & Sox are good. Otherwise this fall would be brutal.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...

I’ll also have Derrick Rose to look forward too, and the Blackhawks should be fun to watch.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should have taken Beasley.

But I think we get a bounce back year from Kirk.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I believe Beasley will be good – probably ROY unless Oden explodes. But I don’t see him as anything more than another Glenn Robinson. I think Rose could be one of the best players in the league, both ways, relatively soon.

I also think Kirk should play more off-guard, and I hope he bounces back.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope

Kirk has a bounce back year. Maybe fatherhood gets him back on track.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: I'll See Rose on Dec. 12

I’m eager to see Rose play for the Bulls against the Grizzlies at Fed Ex Forum. They may be more fans rooting for the Bulls than the Griz.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 22, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't every year

an ugly year of grind it out football for the bears?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not starting football season at all this season, since the Bears are going to suck. Although Orton didn’t look too bad tonight.

by The Original Dave on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al

being a former employee allows me to continue my career in San Diego. Back in 2012

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by Employee22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Do you get the former employee discount?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Nationals

The Nats are really, really, really bad. They’ve lost 12 in a row, and they’re just dead. Lets get a sweep.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unlikely

The Nats offense is just terrible. Look at their run differential.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even a blind squirrel...

…finds a port in a storm every once in a while. I’d feel better if the Nats at least stole a win from the Phillies tonight so they could reinitiate another losing streak tomorrow.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Brenly was talking about that the other day. He said managers hate when a team comes in ice cold.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as they don't win Saturday.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed, I am, with my son and

several friends.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

blind squirrels

are finding ports in storms now? first stealing nuts from dogs, now commandeering ships? egads.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're outta control, I tell ya.

I caught a blind squirrel trying to hotwire my car the other day.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll Braille outta message for them to reign it back in

the sighties are obviously on to us… gotta stop that

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol . . . "sighties"

how are ya?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm good.

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that is the secret to your wealth...

…a vast network of criminal squirrels. Brilliant!

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh

don’t tell anyone.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought

It was chipmunks.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

squirrels and the occassional hedgehog.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shows what I know

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully...

… the Nats got their win tonight, breaking their streak vs.the Phillies. Now they can start losing again.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al: anyone left from the 1909 team?

The way ESPN and Fox carry on about 100 years and all that, I assume that we have players on this team who were playing since 1909. You get my point…

Omar Vizquel remembers that 1909 team. He claims they played him tough!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 21, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, 1911. He was on the Keokuk team in 1909.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday Mark!!!!

The game to me today seemed a little dull. Maybe that’s not the right word but it seemed that way.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a dull win....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...I sort of see your point

dullness can set in after 77 of anything….except “handshakes”….“handshakes” NEVER get dull.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

handshakes?

Um. Yeah. I don’t even want to know.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You count your...ummm...."handshakes"?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what's better?

a dull win,
or an exciting loss?

by tootle on Aug 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody gets excited about a loss....

wait for it.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh a dull win

for sure. I just had a hard time keeping my eyes open. I’ll be glad when the Olympics are over so I can get to bed earlier.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way!

What about synchronized rope thingy dancing stuff? And the hula hoop thing.

At least in the trampoline event they got some air!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are true international sports fo' show.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Men's beach volleyball

is on tonight and Jeremy Wariner runs tonight. :D

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...that girl on the far left

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would just go up to her and say

…..“Hey Im Hammer….you know what I mean”

Then be hit square in the nuts.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

the man is EVERYWHERE

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But aren't you glad all those women are cheering for the Cubs?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing wasn't the word I had in mind.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found myself daydreaming

through half the game… planning dinner, blah blah blah. Needed a couple of toothpicks to keep my lids up.

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Baby, Do you want to

If you want creepy…that’s creepiest pick up line ever.

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 22, 2008 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That dude...

…looks like the Sox radio guy Farmer.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I took a nap between inning 6 and 9.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just had the radio on...

and for whatever reason, it didn’t seem too exciting today…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad

I had to go to a meeting yesterday during innings 6 -9. I was worried I had missed something

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Aug 22, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

interesting pregame thread. Was BlueMike drinking?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So glad I stayed away.

Those thread are no fun.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I didn't

say anything either.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty Baker said

“We held their offense down pretty good too. We played a good series, we just came up a run short of winning the series.”

Actually, one run would have tied the game.

by daeviant on Aug 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

run clogging.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Cubs were a 1-run loss away from sweeping the series

Nice try, Dusty, but it’s hard to spin this year’s Reds.

by ChipSet on Aug 21, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Lost my cell phone yesterday

but went out and got an iPhone today. Very cool First thing I did was download a Go Cubs Go ringtone. and set up a Cubs wallpaper :-D

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mine's a closeup of the on deck circle

I took it when I went on the tour last time I visitied Chicago.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure your cat didn't hide it somewhere?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just in .....

Bear offense is brutal to watch

by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Bears are playing tonight?

Could have fooled me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL

not an unlikely scenario but I left it behind in a restaurant at the San Diego airport. Of course, they didn’t answer my numerous calls to the phone. Oh well, now I have a new toy.

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is anybody watching

The Olympics and speed walking….LMFAO

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This one woman is winning by a lot

….and into the commercial the announcer goes “Looks like she is walking away with this one”

WOW

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clever... not

I realize the announcers are on 24/7 and probably run out of things to say but there’s a lot to be said for letting the action speak for itself rather than trying to be “clever”… the power of silence is so lost on American culture… sigh

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow..

Both the women AND men’s U.S. relay teams drop the baton and fail to qualify in the 400 meters.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or it was Dusty...

He didn’t want all those batons clogging up the lanes.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear your point on D Lee's GIDP

But that doesn’t make me any happier about it. At least in the past he seemed to be hitting more balls in the air, so even if they were outs, he wasn’t wiping out baserunners or ending innings early.

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not as good...

as Mark but my 2 week old baby girl is 11-3. Every game that I have been home, she was been in her daddy’s arms watching the games. Her middle name is Addison.

A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.

by FSArkCubsFan on Aug 21, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee's GIDP #'s

Have a lot less to do with Theriot’s OBP and much more to do with his GB/FB ratio.

I did a bit more research than the last time I made the comment — I didn’t realize this was on the ESPN player page — here.

As of this writing, Lee is 4 ground balls short of his career high for a season — and it’s August 21. That’s staggering . . . . Lee is my favorite Cub, but this is cause for concern.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

That is somewhat worrying. Especially at this point in the year. At least in April and May, one could make the argument that Lee would correct things, but this doesn’t appear to be reversible and isn’t going to be changeable in late August and September.

Hopefully it improves some over the next 45 days, but it looks like Derrek will have to make some adjustments.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am pretty surprised that he hasnt been able to make any adjustments...

…or I should say been successfuly making any adjustments..

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Aug 21, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's saving his fly balls...

…for the (gulp) playoffs?

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

i read that the first time as “shaving”

I need a nap.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yowza!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. it was like

“wait. what?”

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait, did you mean to reply to me?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

i was just being a smart aleck.

i hope you’re not one of the board police ;-)

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, not at all

just wondering if that was a joke, because I thought it was pretty funny if it was

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worries!

of course, the answer to the question is at least 100!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, I just learned something new

I’d never heard of that before

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found 2 definintions, though

one is a drink, the other is . . . different

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am stealing from borat, silly.

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there I am showing my ignorance again!

Twice in one thread. First blind squirrels . . .

I’ve never actually seen Borat.
(slinks away, embarrassed)

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the old days

A coach would tell you to use a lighter bat..

And if that doesn’t work, rub some dirt on it.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 21, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bears 20-20 at half.

Teams lookin impressive. Minus a brain fart by mike brown and a garret wolfe KO fumble, the bears are rockin… Orton looks good for the most part, wehave Danielle Manning saying “Devin Hester who?”, and Sheed has to TD catches.

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...

by LPLancer23 on Aug 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Kyle

and would love to see him do well.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their defense isn't rocking....

…But Orton looks good, no doubt. Go Boiler Alumni!!!!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boiler up baby!!!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's right!!!

Brees and Orton!!!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!!

Fellow Alum?

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Actually living in Lafayette these days.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 22, 2008 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Nats break their losing streak

4-3 over the Phils. Hanrahan went 2 innings (41 pitches) for the save.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 21, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome

and they come in here for a day game.

go cubs!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to hear about Hanrahan.

He won’t be available Friday, not with that pitch count.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al,

I don’t care about Hanrahan’s pitch count. I’m figuring that the Nats won’t need a closer this weekend anyway… :-)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 21, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shocker about Gene Upshaw

Didn’t know he had pancreatic cancer until last Sunday, then dies 4 days later.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, if you gotta go from cancer

that might be the best way to do it.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, seriously, he was probably just getting over the shock of having it...

..then……gone. Sad. Shocking.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

drunk....

who else is here?

by cubswynn on Aug 21, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

woooooo!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 21, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so are the boo birds

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont like nfl

but i love watching bad rex

by cubswynn on Aug 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES, SIR, GENERAL LOU!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al's here now...

I bet he brought us extra birthday cake!!!! Yum!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

god i love birthday cake.

damn. and now i gotta wait til Nov to get mine!!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, my kids & I ate all the birthday cake at dinner.

(It was a small cake.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're forgiven.

Hope your son had a great birthday! :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did, thanks!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy belated to him from WI, also

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to you too, SB.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't you have saved a little piece

For your friends in the bleachers tomorrowl ? Just for that no Big Gulp for you.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nats beat Phillies 4-3

I like that. I like that alot.

Instead of extending their losing streak and bringing it to Wrigley, they can start a new one this weekend.

0-16 is hard to do in this decade.

KC went 0-19 in 2005. TB went 0-15 in 2002. ARI went 0-14 in 2004.

The record for consecutive losses is 23 by the 1961 1961 Philadelphia Phillies.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Nationals are a really bad team.

They might even be as bad as the ’04 Diamondbacks, who lost 111 games (with Randy Johnson in their rotation, no less — he won 16 of the 51 games).

The Nats must go 18-16 in their remaining 34 games to avoid losing 100. They won’t do that. They can start the rest of their season by losing three straight here; that’d be good for me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Nats, Padres and Mariners may all lose 100 games this year

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 21, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nats

As a Nats season ticket holder, I’m disgusted, let me tell you. They have NO plan, NO clue, and NO concept of getting better. They had a few chips at the deadline, and traded them for nothing.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two words: Jim Bowden

How long will he keep his job?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are an utter mess

And they have no way out of it for at least two years. I’d hate for DC to lose (yet another) baseball team, but someone’s gonna have to pay the bills. And I kinda doubt sales of Ronnie Belliard jerseys are gonna cover the tab.

by Clutch16 on Aug 22, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow the Bears' defense is struggling

Preseason or not, they’ve given up some big plays this game.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday to Mark!

Al, are we all invited to the Bar Mitzvah? :-)

by zevkalman on Aug 21, 2008 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

ALL of you?

You’ll all be there with us in spirit. (Yes, there will be a recap.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the bris

is already concluded, right? :P

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy B-Day Mark!

And Al, did you know that Z is the first pitcher since 1933/34 to have RBI’s in 7 straight starts?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

While my Internet is up....

(and it may go back down any minute) ….

Glad to see that DeRo stayed hot, and that Z got the August monkey off his back.

Just keep winning series, and we’ll be fine.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 21, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al,

Are you OK with your son sharing a birthday with Jason Marquis???

Happy birthday, Mark!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 21, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If I'm not mistaken, Marquis' son celebrates his birthday today, too

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 21, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you are correct.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 21, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 22, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy birthday Mark...

I’m sure you give your Dad and family much to be very proud of. Enjoy entrance into the teen age years.

by MDBNIU on Aug 21, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Misty May and Kerri Walsh Interview during the Men's Beach Final.

Dude in front of them representating the north side with his Cubs Cap. Could it be Milton’s bodyguard taking in an Olympic Event?

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 21, 2008 10:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From Bruce Miles, about September callups
Figure on pitchers Angel Guzman, Kevin Hart and Michael Wuertz. Catcher Koyie Hill likely will be added to the 40-man roster to give the Cubs some added depth behind the plate. Center fielder Felix Pie probably will get the call, as will infielder-outfielder Micah Hoffpauir.

Looks like we might see Guzman, after all.

by sackings108 on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al posted this in the pre-game thread this morning.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no prob...

I’m anxious to see Guzman, and have Pie and The Hoff back. Not too keen on the others though.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 21, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read some other notes...

… that say it won’t be Guzman, that instead it’ll be Lieber activated.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 22, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say we trade Veal to the Brewers

but they have to promise that he will start for them the rest of the season.

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 22, 2008 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

infielder-outfielder Micah Hoffpauir.

hee-hee-hee… I always laugh when I see that…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al, nice to see another NM cubs fan on here that finally got to see a game at wrigley. I’m from albq as well, but haven’t gotten to see a game yet. I saw them play the braves last year when I was at Ft Gordon.

This team keeps winning, and my hope keeps growing and growing. Let’s hope this continues deep into october and cubs fans all over this great nation get to celebrate!

by nmcubsfan on Aug 22, 2008 5:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be fun

to watch Dero play second for an entire year because he makes some slick plays there.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Aug 22, 2008 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be fun

to watch him play there for an entire MONTH.

Has he gone a month at second every game? I don’t think he has…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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