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Banishing Echoes: Cubs 3, Reds 2

On September 30, 2004, as the wild-card contending Cubs were melting down, they had to, absolutely had to, beat the Reds at Wrigley Field to keep any sort of postseason hopes alive (after having lost the previous day, they had fallen half a game behind the Astros).

And in the twelfth inning, after Mark Prior (can't even call him The Former Employee here -- it was one of his finest Cub moments) had pitched nine magnificent innings, striking out sixteen, Javier Valentin stood in the batter's box against Kyle Farnsworth with two out and a runner on second base. Valentin smacked a double down the right field line, breaking a 1-1 tie, and the ballpark fell silent; though the Cubs did get the tying and winning runs on base in the last of the twelfth, you just knew the fight had gone out of them. The 2-1, 12-inning loss finished any realistic hopes that Cub team had of the postseason, and since then Valentin has been a particular nemesis of the Cubs; his lifetime averages against the Cubs coming into today's game are .303/.384/.566 with 6 HR and 20 RBI in 99 AB, his best marks against any team that he's faced for more than 28 career AB.

So when Valentin stepped into the batter's box at Wrigley Field today with two out and a one-run Cub lead in the ninth against Kerry Wood, one of only four Cubs remaining from that 2004 team, I worried.

No worries! Wood caught Valentin looking, his second strikeout of the inning, posting his 26th save in a 3-2 Cubs win over the Reds, putting them back at 29 games over .500 and registering their seventh consecutive series win, done in two hours and fourteen minutes, the fastest game of 2008 -- and maybe that was because of the little rainshower that had the umbrellas up and down most of the game, reminiscent of the rain that fell during Wood's 20K game on May 6, 1998. It never rained very hard, but maybe the players picked up the pace a little bit because they didn't want to be out there too long if it did begin raining any harder.

The Cubs scored all their runs in the first three innings off Josh Fogg -- whose ERA went down despite giving up three runs in four innings -- one at a time, scoring on another DP-Lee ball. Part of the reason for the 24 GIDP for Lee is Ryan Theriot's .394 OBA -- if there are more people on base ahead of a hitter like Lee, he's going to hit into more DP. The major league season record holders in GIDP -- Jim Rice and Henry Aaron -- are good hitters, as is the club record holder, Ron Santo (27 in 1973, and that's probably going to fall soon).

Mark DeRosa hit a solo HR in the 2nd, increasing his career-best season total to 15 (DeRo is only one RBI short of tying his career best set in 2006 with Texas, and also made a slick defensive play today, saving a first-inning run), and then Z slammed his fourth of the year and 16th of his career, putting him one ahead of Mike Hampton as the leader among active pitchers, and tying him with Jim Kaat, Schoolboy Rowe and Jim Tobin for 15th place on the all-time pitcher home run list. (Note: both Rowe and Tobin hit other HR not as pitchers.) Z's season average went up nine points, from .357 to .366.

The Reds chipped away with a Jay Bruce HR in the sixth and then Joey Votto hit a Carlos Marmol pitch somewhere into orbit -- OK, just onto Sheffield, but it was quite a blast, making it 3-2. Marmol got hit pretty hard today; fortunately, all but Votto's ball were caught.

Z threw pretty well today; his command was shaky in the first three innings, when he issued two walks, but he settled down and gave up only six hits in all and four walks, including one to the nearly-unwalkable Corey Patterson (11 walks in 274 PA coming into today's game). He and Lou both said in the press conference that they were satisfied, but that Z would continue to work on mechanics. The win today was his first in August in almost two years, since August 24, 2006.

Today was my son Mark's 13th birthday and his personal record moved to 11-1 (yes, he will be at all three games of the Nationals series). Also, nice to meet BCB reader SteveABQ, in from (as you might have guessed) Albuquerque for three games. He told me he's always lived there, never in Chicago; he's one of the many of you who became Cubs fans because of the nationwide reach of WGN. Cubs Nation celebrates tonight, 5.5 games in first place. Onward.

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cool

what a great way to spend a birthday! happy birthday.

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, Al...

…I haven’t actually read your recap yet. But that headline is awesome. All right, I’ll start reading now.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

Thanks!

Hope you like the recap, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great recap as always, Al.

And happy birthday to your son! Listening to the audio, I found this game a bit tedious and frustrating – as did Ron Santo – but all’s well that ends well. Another series win against a team the Cubs should definitely beat.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

actually...

santo is what made listening to the game more annoying in my opinion. he just had a bad feeling about today and could not let it go. OH GEEZ!

GEE WHIZ

by Ryno72 on Aug 21, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He mentioned during the broadcast...

…that he got home really late last night and had a hard time getting up this morning. So I think he was perhaps a bit sleep deprived. He was definitely at his teeth-gnashing best (or, worst, depending on your perspective). I think he wanted the team to score 10 runs and they…just…wouldn’t.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well. who didn't want them to score 10 today?

But yeah. Santo obviously wasn’t feeling quite right about the game today. Weird vibes or something.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 4:54 PM CDT   0 recs

LOL

That’s a scary looking face!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Seriously...

tell your boy happy birthday from the one that gives his dad so much heartburn

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ancient History

Like you said, Al, only four people from that team are on this one. (Wood, Lee, Ramirez and Zambrano, I think) It’s a different team, and what happened in 2004 has nothing to do with what happens to this team.

by Old Style & Ivy on Aug 21, 2008 4:56 PM CDT   0 recs

Gotta agree..it's a nice coinkidink and all

But even if Valentin comes through, it means nothing.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe, tho

that explains why Santo was so freakin’ nervous.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Santo nervous???

STOP THE PRESSES!

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

GOSH.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All of you are right.

It IS a different team. We’ve seen that all year. As a fan, I like to see previous tormentors put in their place.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wha?

Valentin struck out twice in the 9th inning?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 21, 2008 4:58 PM CDT   0 recs

no

he was wood’s 2nd strikeout of the inning.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he got a couple

of technical balks, is all. Extra assessed strikes, and all that.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ummmm you should be punished al

11-1 record when your son is at games?? why in the world is he not at more games?? no excuses we need that kinda lucky charm at every game. get that boy to every weekend,playoff, and WS game from here on out.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Who needs school? Who needs sleep?

Tell that boy that so long as he is under your roof, he goes to games! School can WAIT!

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

Fortunately for him (and maybe for the Cubs) his school doesn’t start till September 2. He’ll likely be at almost every game till then.

Good enough for now?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, and I might have to ask him to get a job to pay for the tickets!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Do you let him read or post here? Just wondering...

my 11 year old knows about this place, and he follows along sometimes when I’m at home and on here.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's seriously worthy of

a call to DCFS

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark has posted here a couple of times.

Not recently, though. I know he reads my posts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Assuming you're being sarcastic...

…please remember to use the sarcasm indicator:

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry...

I would have thought a thread that included me suggesting Al’s kid doesn’t need to go to school would NOT be viewed as serious when I suggested that allowing a minor on here is child abuse.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 21, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

First I forgot the game was early...

…then I turn it on at about the 2:05 mark…and missed damn near the entire game. Ahhhh.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 21, 2008 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

I understand the frustration

but you really didn’t miss much, Dan. It was a headachey kind of game. Thank goodness we won.

by Emelie on Aug 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Headachey? Did you just make that up?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 6:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a good word!!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

FOGG

WE LIT HIM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT   0 recs

For the first 3 innings anyway.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

YES YES YES

well 4 innings 3 runs is good enough.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 21, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Onward indeed

things aren’t finished this season, we have a loooooooong way to go. I’m not starting football season this year until November BTW!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 21, 2008 5:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Agreed...

Especially considering how bad the Bears look…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh.

They look offensive on offense… could be a long year of ugly grind it out football.

Every team in the leagues gone spread offense w/ the ability to score points… and we’re stuck in the grind it out phase still. :sigh:

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They'll look good early

because that defense is still top-notch, but when exaustion/injuries hit around Colombus Day, it’ll be Bad News Bears…

(Sorry about the terrible pun)

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No one's going to be able to do anythng behind that horrible line.

God. I’m glad the Cubs & Sox are good. Otherwise this fall would be brutal.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep...

I’ll also have Derrick Rose to look forward too, and the Blackhawks should be fun to watch.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We should have taken Beasley.

But I think we get a bounce back year from Kirk.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 21, 2008 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree

I believe Beasley will be good – probably ROY unless Oden explodes. But I don’t see him as anything more than another Glenn Robinson. I think Rose could be one of the best players in the league, both ways, relatively soon.

I also think Kirk should play more off-guard, and I hope he bounces back.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I really hope

Kirk has a bounce back year. Maybe fatherhood gets him back on track.

by sue369 on Aug 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OT: I'll See Rose on Dec. 12

I’m eager to see Rose play for the Bulls against the Grizzlies at Fed Ex Forum. They may be more fans rooting for the Bulls than the Griz.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 22, 2008 8:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

isn't every year

an ugly year of grind it out football for the bears?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m not starting football season at all this season, since the Bears are going to suck. Although Orton didn’t look too bad tonight.

by The Original Dave on Aug 22, 2008 12:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey Al

being a former employee allows me to continue my career in San Diego. Back in 2012

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by Employee22 on Aug 21, 2008 5:36 PM CDT   0 recs

LOL

Do you get the former employee discount?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Nationals

The Nats are really, really, really bad. They’ve lost 12 in a row, and they’re just dead. Lets get a sweep.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 5:41 PM CDT   0 recs

Unlikely

The Nats offense is just terrible. Look at their run differential.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 21, 2008 5:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Even a blind squirrel...

…finds a port in a storm every once in a while. I’d feel better if the Nats at least stole a win from the Phillies tonight so they could reinitiate another losing streak tomorrow.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 5:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Brenly was talking about that the other day. He said managers hate when a team comes in ice cold.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

as long as they don't win Saturday.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

indeed, I am, with my son and

several friends.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

blind squirrels

are finding ports in storms now? first stealing nuts from dogs, now commandeering ships? egads.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They're outta control, I tell ya.

I caught a blind squirrel trying to hotwire my car the other day.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll Braille outta message for them to reign it back in

the sighties are obviously on to us… gotta stop that

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol . . . "sighties"

how are ya?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i'm good.

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So that is the secret to your wealth...

…a vast network of criminal squirrels. Brilliant!

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 21, 2008 8:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Shh

don’t tell anyone.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I always thought

It was chipmunks.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 21, 2008 8:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope

squirrels and the occassional hedgehog.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

shows what I know

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!