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Chicago Cubs at Pittsburgh Pirates, Aug 25, 2008 6:05 PM CDT



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Chicago Cubs
@ Pittsburgh Pirates

Monday, Aug 25, 2008, 6:05 PM CDT
PNC Park

Ted Lilly vs Jeff Karstens

Clear. Winds blowing from left to right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

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Fun with numbers:

The Cubs are 11-4 vs. the Pirates this year -- 7-2 at Wrigley Field, 4-2 in Pittsburgh. The two losses in Pittsburgh both went extra innings, as did two of the wins (the first two games played there, back in April). In fact, those two Cubs extra-inning wins -- on April 7 and April 9, are the only extra-inning games the Pirates have lost at home this year (they're 5-2 in extras at home, 6-2 on the road, including their loss yesterday at Milwaukee, where they managed to load the bases with nobody out in the top of the 12th without scoring). So get a comfy chair tonight; you may be in it for a while.

Also: Mark DeRosa, not known for power hitting, now has 18 home runs and has homered in four straight games. The club record for such things is five, set by Hack Wilson in 1928 and tied by Ryne Sandberg in 1989 and Sammy Sosa in 1998. I learn this from Paul Sullivan's notes column today, in which he also points out:

The Cubs are the first pitching staff to have 1,000 strikeouts in 2008. They've led the majors in strikeouts every season since 2001 and could break the Dodgers' record of seven straight seasons of leading the majors, from 1957-63.

Not that K's are the be-all and end-all, but that's still mighty impressive. The Dodgers won two pennants and a World Series (1959) in those seven years, won 102 games and lost a playoff to the Giants in another (1962) and had a winning record six of the seven years, missing only the "readjustment" year when they moved from Brooklyn to LA (1958).

Also, for those interested, click here to view the playoff fact sheet sent out by the Cubs to season ticket holders (link opens .pdf file).

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Jeff Karstens
J. Karstens
Pirates
12-7 W-L 2-2
4.25 ERA 2.25
148 SO 11
56 BB 8
27 HR 4
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 12-7 27 27 0 0 0 0 161.0 156 79 76 27 56 148 4.25 1.32


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jeff Karstens 2-2 4 4 1 1 0 0 28.0 23 8 7 4 8 11 2.25 1.11

After pitching really well in his Pirates debut vs. the Cubs on August 1, and even better (a two-hit shutout) in his next start vs. Arizona, Karstens has started to get hit around a little bit, losing his next two starts -- both at home, while the wins were on the road -- and giving up two homers in each one. I think the Cubs will be better prepared to face him tonight. Karstens did walk four Cubs on August 1, so if they can wait him out they should do just fine.

The day after Karstens shut the Cubs down, Ted Lilly did the same to the Pirates. Lilly is leading the NL in homers allowed, but has allowed only two in his last four starts, comprising 26.2 innings, and gave none to the Pirates in that August 2 game. Since his slow start, Lilly is 7-2, 3.45 in his last 14 outings.

Today's game is on cable and BOTH feeds are scheduled to be on EI, so if you're outside Chicago you should be able to see Len & Bob. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 6 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CT.

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Come on Lilly!!!

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

second!

go cubs!

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Aug 25, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

rokkin!

it’s a baseball blog, let’s talk some baseball!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Coming off the ASB following a roadtrip to Houston and AZ Cubs were 8 games under .500 on the road

They are now at .500….

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 25, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No extra innings

tonight please. Wonder what the odds are on DeRo hitting a homer tonight? That would just be crazy if he did. Hope Lilly is spot on tonight and it’s a quick win for the Cubs.

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and when are you not?

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 25, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't always

explicitly root for home runs, but the streak is an exception…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here is a clue from baseball players and coaches

Hit the ball hard, hit it on the nose, nail it…..drive the ball

Hitting a HR is more than simply hitting the ball hard, one has to elevate it and drive it,,,,hitting it with backspin.

Hitting the ball hard means line drives through the infield, balls in the gap, balls driven over or beyond OF’s…..

When watching the game my father in law always remarked that I would say things like ‘hit it hard’, drive it…..

My father being a former coach like to say when a runner was on 3rd base…..wild pitch….but then more importantly nail it, only give the defender one step reaction.

HR’s come in bunches because everything comes together while lifting the ball.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 25, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Attempting to lift the ball

is the surest way of grounding out. Uppercut swings lead to more topspin, not backspin.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 25, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Aug 25, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I looked for the odds on a DeRo HR

But could not find any. I did see that the over/under on Lilly strikeouts is 5.5.

by gocubsgo22 on Aug 25, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

He said yesterday that he’s never played like this before in his career. I hope it conitnues for him. He’s a team first guy.

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, there was a great interview...

…with DeRo on Comcast Sportsnet last night. He was talking about how he really wants to seize the moment and win it all this year. He said something about not wanting to have to go back to spring training next year and “start all over.” He also spoke of leaving games and seeing all of the fans out at the bars celebrating and how it makes him want to savor every moment of this season. Typically great stuff.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 25, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see

he appreciates my binge drinking :)

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see that....

… but I’m glad to hear that DeRo, and the other players too I hope, are enjoying this as much as we are. He really seems to get it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't this the Cubs' 50th game against the Pirates this year?

Or does it just feel that way?

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Aug 25, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at the Brewers' sched for the final 6 weeks

They get 50 against the Pirates then!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking at that before

and also noticed (again) that we don’t have the easiest last month and a half of the season. Let’s build a bigger lead, starting tonight

When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo

by gwood on Aug 25, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

like sue said above, please, just no extra innings. Let the pirates pitchers be tired and the players not snappy.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Karstens has pitched well

I am guessing Edmonds, Fukudome, Ward and Fontenot might be in the lineup, maybe play DeRosa at SS to see if he can play there too?

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 25, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did this guy

dye his eyebrows?

Wait, are they not the same guy?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird, huh?

Karstens and Gorzelanny look eerily similar – both to each other and to Butthead.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 25, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eerie.

Maybe the X-Files should get involved.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The truth is out there...

…on the mound. Pitching. For Pittsburgh.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 25, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since I am not good with the picture thing

You could extend this to Jack Wilson and Steve O from Jack A$$

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Butthead.

Light him up.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is the division series

still a 2-2-1 format? With the “home” team getting games 1,2 & 5? TIA

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Aug 25, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Click on the fact sheet for the schedule.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does the best team in the NL...

get a choice of starting the NLDS a day earlier or having an extra off day during the series?

I think the Red Sox (as the best team in the AL) had this choice last year. Doesn’t that “option” rotate to the NL this year?

Just wondering how those NLDS dates are set in stone.

Eamus Catuli!

by wrigley_boy on Aug 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question.

October 1, the first date listed on the sheet, is a Wednesday. Presuming the Cubs have home field for that series, they’d get two days off before the series, and two days off DURING the series.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like all the off days

They’re good for your pitching rotation… but the boys are used to playing everyday… that much rest is bad. Just ask the Rockies.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might work well for guys like Harden, though.

It also means you need only an 11-man pitching staff, so you can have an extra bench player (Hoffpauir, maybe).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

I just think that much rest kills any mojo your offense may have gained.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoffs? Don't talk about playoffs. Are you kidding me? Playoffs?

one game at a time.

"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."

by Cubster on Aug 25, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Derrek back in lineup

Sori
Riot
Lee
Riot
Edmonds
DeRo
Dome
Soto
Lilly

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scrappy so good he hits twice!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's gonna hit a single in the two-hole...

…then hit another one in the four-hole and score from first. Yeah, he’s that fast.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 25, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what you get with scrappy speed.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riot hit in the 2 hole and the 4 hole

Impressive. Does he get a ghost man if he is already on base.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

Sorry Thats Rami. I suck.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't suck. You were just overcome

with the influence of scrappiness.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whitenmyer's twitter is hard to read sometimes

but i just can’t type today. not enough caffeine.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't sweat it. It's all good with the boys in blue!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/Under on DP's he hits into tonight.....2.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Onwards and Upwards

All season long, that’s been the goal. All season, reached.

.500 play: April 6th
5 games over: April 19th
10 games over: May 16th
15 games over: June 1st
20 games over: June 15th
25 games over: August 13th
30 games over: August 24th

It’s only reasonable now… we build for 35 over. If we keep aiming for higher goals, we don’t need to worry about anyone in second place.

Onward and Upward.

I won’t be watching or in the chat tonight, since it’s a midnight start for me. Hope I wake up to good news.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 25, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aw, no one

to drink with tonight. Sleep well.

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh!

Don’t tell anyone, but my liquor cabinet is unlocked ;)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 25, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your secret

is safe with me……thanks ;-)

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To Higher goals!

We’re in the lead. Take care of our own and nothing else matters

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 25, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awww...

I’ll keep the brownies warming in the oven

by Emelie on Aug 25, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

has to be an euphemism LOL

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with this team?

only indeed!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but i want to win 11 in Oct more.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all part of the service

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

20-12 is 32 games.

In their last 32 games the Cubs are 22-10.

Just sayin’.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

win-tastic

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See my above post.

100 is nice, but instead of focusing on one goal, lets have plenty of small goals and never be satisfied. That way, 100 seems like a small number in the end :)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say we go for 100

over .500!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHY? It's not much above the rate we're winning games this year....

2008 winning % = .615

32 games @ .615 = 19.68 games.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that will be pretty tough

After the Pirates, we have one series against a Sub 500 team and that is on the Road in Cincy. At this point, I want the division, everything else is gravy.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 25, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think that down the stretch

playing teams in the race is better. If both teams have pressure on them, the other team (re: mets in sept?) could be tense. When you play a team like the Nats or Reds they have no pressure and should be loose.

Plus you need to go in to the P word playing well. And you play your best when the games matter for both teams. IMHO anyway.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

P word?

Sounds dirty.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't want to incite Jim Mora from up above...

he sounded feisty.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Mora real feisty.

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

But it will make achieving 100 games harder. If they do reach it, then I think we will truly know how dominating this team can be since they will have went through every playoff contender besides the west coast in the final two months…

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Aug 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I just want us to play well down the stretch and go in hot. Everything else is gravy.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's possible the Astros will be under .500 by the time we play them.

That’d make six more games vs. a sub .500 team.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

astros actually have the 3rd best record in the NL

since the all star game so they’re playing solid. NOT a team to overlook.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, the way this team's been playing...

…I wouldn’t put it past ’em.

Yes, sir!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 25, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back from Vegas

and at school. Unfortunately I’ve missed this past series, which pained my heart when I saw Harden’s numbers from his game yesterday.

Let’s go Lilly!

"Yes it's true. Everyone knows that I've pitched. I make sure of that. I have nine different pitches, all of which are awesome. I have a 0.00 ERA, got one out, throwing all knuckleballs. I don't remember who I faced -- some dude from Ole Miss." - Ryan Theriot

by NittanyCub on Aug 25, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's like I was talking to Las Vegas,and I said

“Hey, I don’t want this money. You can have it.”

It would’ve been less embarrassing if I just handed the money over to the guy handling the roulette tables and just gotten kicked in the nuts a couple times.

"Yes it's true. Everyone knows that I've pitched. I make sure of that. I have nine different pitches, all of which are awesome. I have a 0.00 ERA, got one out, throwing all knuckleballs. I don't remember who I faced -- some dude from Ole Miss." - Ryan Theriot

by NittanyCub on Aug 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

certainly

several of the less savory nite-clubs do. Only he’s wearing different clothes.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 25, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZING!

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 25, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The lesson?

Never play roulette. Craps and blackjack offer better odds, and the chance to stay in the game longer….at least from my experience.

by Chadnudj on Aug 25, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favorite part: open drinks wherever

There’s nothing like sleeping at 7 and start pounding Fat Tire’s by 12:30 and not feeling uncomfortable about it.

"Yes it's true. Everyone knows that I've pitched. I make sure of that. I have nine different pitches, all of which are awesome. I have a 0.00 ERA, got one out, throwing all knuckleballs. I don't remember who I faced -- some dude from Ole Miss." - Ryan Theriot

by NittanyCub on Aug 25, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's only money

…and they’re only your nuts. I’ll pony up a dollar and my right one if the Cubs go to the series. :)

by leothelip on Aug 25, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the comments section...

…of the Tribune article Al cited, someone suggested dumping DLee and getting Richie Sexson for first base instead.

Odd. Very odd.

by sniffy the bee on Aug 25, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And that's what happens

When a blog is not moderated!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FINALLY!!

None of this “work” nonsense to interfere with my Cubs watching.

I have not been able to relax and watch a full game since The last Reds game last week.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord

I’ve done everything I can to avoid the Presidential race… and now Obama’s on SportsCenter. Shoot me please.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well they do call it a "RACE" so maybe you should avoid ESPN

and stick to the weather channel until they start offering election day forecasts.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 25, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Or I’ll prolly just go anti-tv, interent, or phone…

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither is sportscenter

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're telling me

ESPN isn’t supposed to dictate my political decision-making? Huh.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

I shouldn’t have brought this up. I just need to B&M for a second b/c of how tired of the whole thing I am.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not tired.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries.

I was joking anyway.

Though…B&M?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bitch and moan

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

political proclivities aside

the Presidential race is important. More important, even, than the Cubs. Shoot me.

by Emelie on Aug 25, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well (and carefully) said

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

But not on ESPN.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree its important

but i’m avoiding it b/c everyone keeps trying to tell me what to think. i’m on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to most of my friends and family… so it gets wearing.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vote for

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

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Im gonna need you to stop talking about this election stuff…Yeah

BTW SWL, im gonna need you to come in to work on Saturday…… Oh and I alomst forgot Im gonna need you to come in on Sunday too…… So be here at around 9am? Okay Great…Yeah

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not right now, Galvan, I'm kinda busy.

In fact, look, I’m gonna have to ask you to just go ahead and come back another time. I got a meeting with HBCG, Emelie and Sue369 in a couple of minutes.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Sue, Emelie & I

are the BCB version of the Bobs?

I’m sort of insulted.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could be Semir or Michael Bolton :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think whats great about that

Is you got a picture where Lumburgh is wearing the same outfit as in my picture.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Lumburgh ever wear a diffent outfit?

Two toned shirt w/ a bad tie and suspenders?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno but

Next Friday is Hawaiian Shirt day…… so you can call wear your favorite hawaiian shirt and jeans.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!!!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the Times has an interesting poll up

Who ya got for Cubs team MVP:
-Dempster
-DeRosa
-Lee
-Marmol
-Ramirez
-Fonzi
-Soto
-Riot
-Zambrano
???

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al Yellon

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stunner!

Would have thought you’d vote for HBCG!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HBCG

Knows my support for her is strong and steadfast.

She knows That shes always going to be my MVP :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awwww

young romance is so sweet

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know

I think i might need to find a new “MVP” since my current one doesnt appreciate me :(

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who says i don't appreciate you?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh...well

No one i guess… heh

I thought you where tired of my little flirts.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

that’s just everyone else.

;)

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jealousy is a bad bad thing my friend

really bad

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah i guess it does

I guess it does.

Hmmm

So man whats happening?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Killing time.

Murdering it, actually.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't speak for me.

I think it’s cute.

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah.

its only the people who think we’re really serious that are annoyed. I think its kinda fun.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O. U. C. H.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SWL!!!!!!!!!!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Cubs Go.

They, and we, all wanna hear it. As many times as possible.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was my vote as well

but… derosa has been invaluable.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know

:-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to go w/ Soto

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now theres a shocker!

i’m shocked.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This will come

as a shock but I’m going with Geo. :D

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!!!!

hehehehe

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Suspended game

It’s odd to see the Orioles as the road team in Camden Yards.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't name their opponent, because I don't want someone telling me how many

“White Sox” comments I make.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technical balk.

Three consecutive replied comments, also known as the Three Tier Violation.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was being a smartass.

Sometimes, when I work out, I wear white socks.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back on topic

what causes the ump’s to declare a suspended game as opposed to calling a game once hitting 5.5 innings?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in this case

it was a tie game in the 11th when severe weather struck.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When a lead change happens before an inning is finished

and the home team hasn’t had their AB’s to attempt a comeback. Or something like that.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

Sounds good.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's use to talking to himself......

prolly part of the problem.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lqtm

Or those two guys on the Nats site.

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially when conversing with you

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep telling yourself that

maybe you’ll believe it snicker

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was even more weird when i was looking through

the tv schedule and saw “sox at o’s” & “o’s at sox” on the same day. Thought I was hallucinating.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope tonight

the parrot has the flu. An un-obnoxious night with the Pirates will be most appreciated in these parts.

by Emelie on Aug 25, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question about Fuzzy Math

My mom and I have been debating as to how you calculate how many games above .500 we are.

I know we’ve been saying the Cubs are 30 games above .500 because our record is currently 80-50. I told her that it’s calculated by how many more wins than losses we have.

But she asked, “well if we’ve played 130 games, .500 would be 65-65 so aren’t we 15 games above .500?”

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 25, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thats one my personal peeves

as well.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 25, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yah but

you can’t get back to .500 in 15 games. You have to lose 30 times to get back to .500.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-800-COMCAST

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1-800-RPLYBTN

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hee!

and… yeah

by Emelie on Aug 25, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Em's....

did you check out the Old Town Mexican Restaurant?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alas no...

the gang wanted to go for seafood so we ended up at Seteras… or something like that. It was purportedly “trendy” but the food was so-so. Should have insisted. Oh well. Next time.

by Emelie on Aug 25, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad...if you guys wanted good seafood

I could have given you much better choices.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 22 HR 62 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

judges?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

K

I’m off to listen to the game!! Hopefully back to see Milton later!

Go Cubs!

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