I would like to discuss Fukudome
For at least two months possibly sometime in June Fukudome started looking bad. His mechanics were all over the place, his head was moving, he was bailing out, over striding, striking out guessing at pitches.
Piniella let him try to work it out. Before the ASG he was still getting walks and a hit a game, often shots down the opposite field line or a line drive up the middle. Bu many soft grounders or worse, flares like Juan Pierre.
Then his guessing got worse and he couldn't turn on an early FB strike and the league began to smell it. Things just got worse.
Yesterday was the first time in a long time I saw him turn on the ball, open and drive his hips through the hitting zone and snap one down the line for a HR. The news reports have Lou and him working extended BP with Lou working on his front foot and getting it down quickly and what appeared to be a shorter stride. In the golf vernacular this would be stablizing the swing so your head and body became still so you can get through and then release in the hitting zone.
Lou said they let this go too long and hoped Fukudome and that he would figure it out himself. (That is what you do with accomplished professionals for in reality only the hitter can actually do it but sometimes it takes others to suggest the fundamentals when someone asks or possibly responds to an offer to help.) So Piniella, a natural hitting coach worked with Fukudome yesterday and he responds with a big bomb to RF right away. It reminded me how I among others responded to when a top teaching coach would come over after your game was all screwed and make a few adjustments and suddenly your game was back.
Naturally this is just one AB but even Lou says Fukudome is a natural hitter and the Cubs will need Fukudome's good bat down the stretch and into the playoffs. I further think many fans are far too short and fickle where more often than not there are things not known that holds back an accomplished performer. Edmonds was taking medicine that blurred his eyesight and because he was hitting in spacious fields was off balanced in his swing. Last year Soriano didn't hit HR's when his wrists were sore. This year Lee stopped hitting HR's and now we find out he has a back problem. Fukudome was slow a foot and over striding hitting the ball late.
Cubs are getting their house in order and I think we are watching a special year.
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I remember 1 AB in the first game of the season,
when Fuku hit a 3 run HR, and we all believed he would hit for power this season. Look how that turned out. Basing this whole fanpost on 1 AB just can’t let you draw any real conclusions, because it’s too insignificant.
A little harsh...
Ivy Walls spent some good time on this and I appreciate it. I think alot of us feel the same way about Fuko… he can do better. What seems he did so well early on was pulled breaking balls and shot fastballs the other way. Now he is trying to pull fastballs and off balance on the slow stuff. But I am not a hitting coach and I trust the professionals to help him out. Yesterday’s at bat doesn’t mean much as far as mechanics but it may boost confidence, another issue all together.
by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
one AB can be a difference maker
few people actually know what is to compete and to lose confidence and then find it. Sports is a funny thing, you have to be so gifted, especially when trying to hit a ball whether it is pitched or if it is on a tee. The body has to do so many things quickly. Then one has to develop and hone the gift into a skill. Through that comes confidence. Then when all the regular games are done there comes the championships. In golf they are the majors or in college, Conference and NCAA’s. Pressure builds, it is internal pressure to perform which eats at your confidence where anxiety and apprehension grows. Some feed on it, others wilt.
In this one AB can make a player regain all that made them superior. No more questioning, searching, thinking. But we shall see….
Cubs play for their 81st win tonight.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
i can't believe i'm saying this
but i agree with sackings…just like i think people react too negatively about sori, theriot, edmonds, i think people are reacting too quickly about fukudome
you hit the nail on the head when you said this “is just one AB.” i hope i’m wrong and you’re right, bc i was getting closer and closer to the ledge
Plus Fukodome himself said in today's Trib that he hasn't had time
to really implement any of the changes Lou discussed with him. I’d love to see him turn it around because we’ll need him to repeat his early season success in post season but, yes, one at bat (against the worst team in the league) doesn’t mean that the problems are solved
by bluekoolaide on Aug 25, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but it's a good first step.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Now a great game after the one good AB
Many good AB’s
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
If it helped yesterday...
…it was sub-concious, becaue he is right, if you have to think about that stuff while you are up, your mind will lock up.
To me, Fukudome has too much talent to stay in that funk and I think all the hoopla and everything started to get to him mentally. Shortening your stride is not a huge adjustment, and it sure seems like (after tonight) his bat is again moving through the hitting zone with authority.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Who's Fukodome?
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
wow
pigs are flying and hell is freezing over… you and sackings agreed on something!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 26, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
We all???
I personally remember my solid prediction of 15-20 HR’s. I beleive he has like 9 or 10 right now…
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
He has 9
and I would gladly give you any type of odds, and wager anything on the fact that he won’t hit 15. 12 is generous.
by sackings108 on Aug 25, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Nitpick:
his first AB was a 2B off sheets.
that HR came in the 9th.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 26, 2008 5:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Nitpickier
He never said the HR was in his first AB.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Um...yeah...I'm pretty sure he did.
He wrote, “I remember 1 AB in the first game of the season, when Fuku hit a 3 run HR,”. Am I missing something?
Yes, sir!
Well, there's no "st" after the "1", which also isn't preceded by a "his"
I can get even nitpickier than that, but what you typed pretty much reinforces my point – unless I’m missing something….
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Oh yeah...
…I guess that could be construed as a nonspecific “one at-bat.” You’re probably right. This really puts my comparative literature thesis on the postings of sackings108 in jeopardy. I knew I should’ve been a business major.
Yes, sir!
If he'd typed "one" instead of "1", this fascinating sub-thread could have been avoided
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I remember 308 AB when he drove in the tying run with a line smash
Keeding . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 26, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well.......
"Lou gave me his point-of-view on what he thought I should change," Fukudome said through a translator. "I was able to work on it a little bit in the cage, but during the game, I can’t think of stuff like that while I’m at bat. So I wasn’t able to fully introduce what he told me."
So take Piniella’s “miracle transformation of Dome’s swing” with a grain of salt, because it sounds like he didn’t even use the advice yesterday.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
Listening to XM radio...
…I heard Billy and Cal Ripken discussing something similar, and Cal gave a long story about how his dad would tell him what to fix, Cal would work on it in the cage before the game, and then during the game it should stick. He said basically the same thing, that these arent things you think about during an AB, but they’re things you fix when in the cage.
Sounds to me that ‘Dome needs more BP, and now that I think about it, I dont remember him taking hacks in the cage before the game at the last few games I’ve been to…
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by Ryan at Cubshub on Aug 25, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Lack of practice for Dome shouldn't be the problem.
If anything, he needs to loosen up a bit when it comes to his pregame routine. Obviously, as just a fan, I am not privy to the details of his warm up process, but Lou has gone on record saying that he thinks Dome’s pre game warmups, much like the most recent big name japanes import Dicek, are too extensive and that he needs to warm up less. I think that Dome’s problems stem from mechanical issues and some adjustments he has not responded to, not a lack of practice.
I've played against the Japanese...
…and their entire philosophy on pre-game preparation is quite different than what you see in the states. They believe in a lot of work and making things more difficult (like hitting hot grounders during infield). With a more intense ML schedule, I guess its possible he needs to re-think how much he does on a day to day basis.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
This may be one of the reasons...
…. that it takes many Japanese position players a full year before they adjust to MLB. The only one who hit the ground running was Ichiro.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
True.
I did say “many”, not “all”. And even though Hideki Matsui did OK his first year with the Yankees, his power didn’t return till his 2nd year.
If Fukudome can have a good September, maybe he could get back to around .280 or .285, with 11 or 12 HR and 70 RBI or so. That’d put his OPS probably back over. 800, making it a decent season.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Could be Al...
…and from what I have read, it also could be that Fukudome’s work ethic is probably higher than a lot of his Japanese counterparts. Combining that with all the hoopla and intense schedule, you would think the adjustment would read it’s ugly head.
For the first 2 months, I think he was going on andrenaline. Now, he is finding out how he needs to adjust to the ML lifestyle.
I just think this guy is too good a hitter to not be very productive and I think he will start to show that again for an extended period.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
And now would be a perfect time to start.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well...
… most Japanese players have regressed in their second year in the majors, so I am not so sure about this.
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Most?
Who are you referring to, specifically?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
to start with...
… Ichiro, Kaz Matsui, Iguchi, and Iwamura all had lower OPS+ in their second year than their first year.
The only Japanese player that I know of that got better in his second year was Hideki Matsui.
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 26, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
IIRC
Ryne Sandberg only took 18 ground balls in fielding practice, 6 at him, and 6 on either side, just to loosen up. I know we are talking about hitting, but maybe some of the things Lou is talking about are very true. Once you get to a certain level, the prep shouldn’t be as intense, it should be more of a maintenance mode, for lack of a better phrase.
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It should be...
…quality as opposed to quantity, especially once the season gets rolling.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I heard he took 100 every day
The truth is out there . . . .
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 26, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno.
Once a thought gets in your head it can certainly effect your swing right away. Lou may have told him to stride less, or stay over his feet more, or stride more up the middle. Dome may not have had time to work on it, but it is not far fetched to think that his swing was altered a bit.
How long did it take for Jimmy Ballgame to shorten his stride? Quick fixes are possible.
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by californiachicagoan on Aug 26, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The Fukudome Gift
I stated before the season began that I didn’t believe Fukudome would be a great player. I believed he would do well/good in his on base percentage and maybe in the field, but other than that, I didn’t expect much. I believed he would be OK on both those counts because of the more disciplined way they play the game in his home country. Still, I do think he has had a much bigger impact on this team than I, or many others, give him credit for. I believe the more disciplined style of game has significantly influenced this team to be much better at the plate… in terms of taking pitches, etc. That may be Fukudome’s real gift to this magical season.
He batted very well today
but I hope that we recognize that he’s still going to have off days, and he may struggle with really making these changes long-term.
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Kosuke is the best defensive right fielder in the National League
His defense alone should mean he is in the lineup. If he can hit at a .270-ish clip with a quality OBP and take a lot of pitches?? Then he is worth his weight in gold given his defense.
I notice you
hold pretty strongly to the same talking points. Not a dig. Just an observation.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
Thats probably better...
…than many who change their minds after each AB a player has.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
+1
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I completely agree w/ you Mike.
The guy is plus 15.5 runs on defense, for God’s sake. This lineup can support his offense.
by sackings108 on Aug 25, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Really MDBINU?
I thought Jeff Francoeur was the best defensive RF in baseball?
I thought Fukudome wasn’t even in his league?
by Wreckard on Aug 26, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL - TOTAL PWNAGE!
Sing it with me, “Repetition. Contradiction. Repetition. Contradiction. Repetition. Contradiction. Repetition. Contradiction.”
Yes, sir!
(snicker)
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 26, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
well...
… here is the problem with that. Since July 1st he hasn’t been anywhere close to 270 and a quality OBP.
Here is his line: .218/.290/.333 OPS: .623
I agree that a 270/370/?? line would be serviceable with his defense. But a .218/.290/.333 is not.
Felix Pie could put up that line and play just as good, if not better, defense.
And FWIW, Fukudome has 3.4 defensive win shares (he also has 11.5 offensive win shares), which places him 10th among NL outfielders. The combined 15 (totals are rounded) place him tied for 17th among NL outfielders, so I would say no, his defense doesn’t make him “worth his weight in gold.”
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 26, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like a turkey sandwich with mayo, lettuce and tomato...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
No...
4 for 5 is not enough to say that a player has become something great. Give him 50 AB’s, then decide.
by sackings108 on Aug 25, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Decide what?
I’m enjoying his possible re-emergence, and am optimistically hoping it will continue. I dont need 50 ABs to decide.
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by californiachicagoan on Aug 26, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
in Iowa
Felix Pie weeps.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 26, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Technically...
… yes… a sample of five would be “more” valid than a sample of one.
But it still isn’t remotely close to being a valid sample.
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 26, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
OT
I couldnt find an appropriate place to say something like this but…
anybody see today that eddie guardado was traded for mark hamburger?
it was probably the funniest thing id ever read on espn’s bottom line. next to..
Astros place Kaz Matsui on DL. (anal fissure) oh.
Glenallen Hill hit that ball 600 feet.
That was the same problem Kaz Matsui had at the beginning of the season.
Can’t say I’m sorry he won’t be available to play vs. the Cubs next week.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
That makes me clench my buttcheeks.
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That is *so* TMI....
n/t
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by CaughtInTheVines on Aug 26, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If nothing else
Domes’ last two games are certainly a step in the right direction. I hope he can keep this going.
Where was it said
that Japanese players suffer from the travel and longer season in the U.S. and in their second year come out of it and hit more for their normal averages? We may be seeing Fuk getting rested after the days off Lou has given him recently with the chance to get mentally back together as well as technically back together. I’m hoping for another hot bat to take into October.
(Did anyone hear Lou talking about Fuk on the pregame show with Santo last night? He said he calls him Fuk but didn’t want to offend anyone uh, uh, uh more stammering, uh. It was pretty funny if you heard it.)
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Dome's last two games...
…have been a nice tonic for all the ulcer-inducing doom ‘n gloom permeating the media over the last few weeks. Do I think Dome is done struggling for the season? No, I don’t. But Kosuke’s shown once again that he’s a patient, professional hitter who will listen to his coaches and demonstrate to opposing teams that he will come through with big hits when given the opportunity. And, again, his defense should never be ignored or underestimated.
Yes, sir!
or misunderestimated
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
this is a stupid thread
Every week we talk about Fukudome and his hitting woes, and whether he’s coming out of his slump. It’s really getting old. Fukudome is fine, and has been fine for the entire season. He never slumped, irregardless of what your “statistics” show.
Stats are dumb and meaningless, you stupid statheads. I prefer to believe what my gut tells me, and my gut tells me that Fukudome is an MVP candidate because of the magical effect he’s had on the Cubs hitters. My gut also tells me that Dome is hitting .340 with 23 homers, but I’m trying to ignore my gut here, because numbers are stupid and unnecessary.
Fukudome is a great hitter and fielder, and a great man to boot. He volunteers with senior citizens (usually playing Bingo) on off-days and performs open-heart surgery during the winter. Leave him alone, you Fukudome hater. I can’t believe you’re writing something critical of Dome when the club is 31 games over .500 and the best team in the NL. He’s our starting RF, and you should just accept that Lou disagrees with you on this. Geez. Lamest… fanpost… ever.
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 26, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks drew!
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
I wrote that because 1) it drives me crazy when people use the term, and 2) it kept with the spirit of my post.
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I know irregardless isn't a word.
But you can have lots of fun when you contradict someone who uses it if you use “disirregardless” as the contradictor.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
oooh
Al FTW!
You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.
by mambochicken23 on Aug 26, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Q&A w/ Dome after going 3 for 4
It might be too late for this topic, but I just found there is a Q&A article right after he went 3-for-4 with 4 RBIs on Monday.
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- 3-for-4?
Good result, but I am not very sure I did pretty well on every adjusting points for my hitting technique. Have to be better shape asap.
- You came early to ballpark today and did special pre-game batting practice
Got a lot of swings and I could do what I wanted to do.
- What did you try to do during the pre-game practice?
Tried on many small things, thinking about what I tend to do when I’m slumping – both on techniques and feelings.
- Are you well convinced with advices by your manager and coaches?
I cannot take all the advises as I have experiences as a pro, and I could take what is good for me and leave what does not fit to me.
- So the pre-game practice worked well in anyway?
The team allowed me to do it with a lot of swings, and it became a good signal to me.
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I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
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