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Mark Cuban's public relations machine strikes again!

The New York Times has a story on its Sunday, August 3rd, edition, profiling Cuban's effort to buy the Chicago Cubs.

The current co-owner of the Red Sox, John Henry, praised Cuban and Bob Dupuy, MLB President, expressed no objection to him. Also of interest is the revelation that John Canning didn't make the cut as a bidder to buy the Cubs because he "miscalculated" the cost of repairs to Wrigley Field.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of SB Nation or Al Yellon, managing editor (unless it's a FanPost posted by Al). FanPost opinions are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable baseball fans.

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Yes, his PR people must be behind this

Because the most-well known potential buyer of one of the highest-profile franchises in sports isn’t a legitimate sports/news story at all.

by Leon Durham on Aug 3, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

See memphiscub's last paragraph below.

This was published at this particular time not only because it’s newsworthy (of course it is) but because the PR people push for the item to be covered. I have nothing for or against Cuban.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 3, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're both right

NYTimes saw this as an opportunity to discuss the team changing ownership, and Cuban saw this as an excellent PR move.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 3, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban REALLY Wants Cubs

That much is blatantly obvious. He does crave attention. Would he create a circus if he owned the Cubs? I’m thinking, yes. Could we put up with that to have an owner with deep pockets who really cares about the quality of the team on the field? I believe the answer is yes.

The Cubs have been competitive the last two seasons. Cuban would be in a situation to keep a good thing going or making a good thing great rather than turning a terrible situation into a good one (as with the Mavericks). I don’t think the Cubs will revert back to their early 1980’s form, when next-to-last place qualified as a good season, if Cuban is not the new owner. I believe the Cubs have a better chance of staying competitive with Cuban.

Finally, the NY Times story was a PR move. Cuban and his people calling attention to Cuban is something with which we will have to deal, if he becomes the Cubs owner. I believe we can handle that.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 3, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I dont see that problem

Baseball is much slower than basketball obviously, so I dont really see how he could carry out similar antics like hes done in the NBA, which really hasnt happened in a few years anyhow….its not like hes going to be sitting three feet away from an umpire like he would in a basketball game….and fouls/techs are more spontaneous/unpredictable than your avg baseball dispute…so I dont see him trying to interject himself into the game.

Is this some sort of status move for Cuban? absolutely, theyre a huge franchise and owning them, particuarly if they start winning regularly, is a huge boost to ones profile, but he knows how to run a business, so I have no doubt hed be a smashing success as the Cubs owner, and he’s even received the backing of David Stern

I think whoever buys the team has probably already realized the potential maximization of profit is greater when the team is winning and people are flowing through the turnstiles and merch is flying off the shelf, so I dont worry about any potential owner wallowing the team in mediocrity

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 3, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

It will take some old school adjusting to the way Cuban is out front, but, I live here in Texas and have seen first hand what he can do. He is a very passionate owner, thinks the world of his players and their fans. Oh….and wait…..will spend alot of money to WIN !!

ernie81

by ernie81 on Aug 3, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Sam Zell wants money.

Mark Cuban is willing to spend more than anyone else. I think it really is that simple, and I would definitely gamble right now that Cuban ends up becoming the new owner.

by HereComesASpecialBoy on Aug 3, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I see the other side of this..

We’re talking about a guy who, in a league WITH a salary cap, has completely turned around a franchise by SPENDING. What will he do in a league WITHOUT a cap??

I can’t think of a better owner. Yeah he may crave attention a little, but this isn’t hoops where the camera is on him all the time. And what’s more, take Charlize Theron as an example of a complete fox, but who doesn’t have prefect big breasts.. should I write her off as a potential girlfriend? Nobody is perfect.

Mark Cuban for owner 2009.

What am I missing?

The red and white bulls

by Scott 9 on Aug 3, 2008 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

You're missing the fact that...

- Her body is perfect as it is; she doesn’t need “prefect big breasts.”
—You have no chance at Charlize T as your girlfriend.

Other than that, you’re on target.

by santo4hof on Aug 3, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't know me!

Ha! No, good point, but you hear me…

We have to take the good with the bad.

I’m pretty sure Yankee fans were not thrilled with Hank’s cry to the media about Jaba starting and such.. But then again, that ownership family has had some pretty decent success…

The red and white bulls

by Scott 9 on Aug 3, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, I thought that article was excellent.

More and more I’m being convinced he should be and will be our next owner.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 3, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Interesting article.

Nothing terribly new there. I’m still skeptical of Cuban for reasons I’ve stated many times. I do know he’s a successful businessman and having heard him speak, I am impressed with his business knowledge.

We’ll see what happens.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 3, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like it comes down to Cuban, the Ricketts family and an amalgamation of others to form a third bid...

I never in a billion years thought Mark Cuban would be permitted to own a major league baseball franchise. But now I’m not so sure. It certainly sounds like he is poised to blow any other offers out of the water. Sam Zell will sue baseball if Selig and company try to take one additional penny out of hand by turning down the highest offer, presumbly to come from Cuban.

Ugh.

by MDBNIU on Aug 3, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being kinda new to this site...

I am not familiar with your reasons for being skeptical of Cuban.

by JPetey on Aug 3, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it's always been all about HIM.

I don’t need or want a celebrity owner for the Cubs. I don’t need someone who is going to swoop in and fix something that doesn’t appear to be broken (the Mavs were the dregs of the NBA before Cuban bought them).

When he was in the bleachers during a pennant race last September, was it because he wanted to root the Cubs on to victory? No, it was to promote his appearance on “Dancing With The Stars”.

I’m a little less skeptical now than before. We’ll see what happens.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not familiar with the most recent timetable...

will the new owner take over AFTER the 2008 season? If so, I could careless as long as the Cubs win the WS. Otherwise, I see Al’s point w Cuban beofre the end of this year.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably after.

I think it DOES make a difference—let’s say the Cubs DO win this year. Does Cuban still see himself as the “savior” of the franchise, swooping in to “save” it? Or does that lessen the value of it for him?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Cuban is a sports fanatic...

...who sees an opportunity to own an iconic baseball franchise. I don’t think it lessens the value at all, he knows what a cash cow the team is, win or lose.

Let’s face it, he could buy just about any team, but if you can afford the price of admission, there’s only six teams that are “classics”...Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers and Giants. The others don’t have the history in one city and year-in, year-out loyal fan bases and/or they haven’t been around as long.

I include the Dodgers and Giants only because of their original New York location and pioneering the west coast market.

Out of all of those, the Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox have the greatest worldwide recognition (Yankees and Red Sox for their recent championships, Cubs because of WGN and market penetration).

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Cuban wanted to really make a splash in baseball..

... he’d buy his hometown Pirates and make them a winner. They are the baseball equivalent of the Mavericks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

But then he'd have to frequently travel and stay in Pittsburgh...;-)

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 4, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

but let's talk for real Al

if the Cubs win it all this year…we got what we all wanted right? Then we can tackle all the concerns that come with Cuban as an owner but for now, I agree, him coming in in the middle of such a great season is trouble.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t need or want a celebrity owner for the Cubs.

thank god it’s not up to you, i think we need more celebrity owners and less wannabe celebrity bloggers.

When he was in the bleachers during a pennant race last September, was it because he wanted to root the Cubs on to victory? No, it was to promote his appearance on "Dancing With The Stars".

did he say, “i am only here to promote dancing with the stars? or was he asked about it? or was he asked about the sale changed the subject?

and fix something that doesn’t appear to be broken

you do remember that it was, in fact, broken before it was just “fixed”? all those empty seats management commented on? you think they’re spending money right now for funsies or because they’re trying to sell the team?

100 years of losing and mismanagement is broken. add some falling concrete just for good measure.

by Faria on Aug 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, they aren't.

They’re designed to slam me without providing any real rebuttal.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Without any "real" rebuttal? Seriously.

You made a statement that Cuban was only at Wrigley for personal gain. He asked you if he said that or if you made it up. I’m assuming you made it up and I will also assume everyone else here thinks that too.

He quoted you saying “it doesn’t need to be fixed” and properly explained to you that it is, in fact, broken. He mentioned the empty seats, 100 years without a championship and falling concrete.

How you can say he didn’t have any real rebuttal is, with all due respect, a flat out lie and an inability on your part to further explain your opinions having the lies taken out of it. You either did not read his comment or consider all comments that disagree with you as having not provided any real evidence as to why they disagree. And if this is the case, Al, then it means that you think, automatically, that any opinion you have is superior to those posted by others around here. Or that your opinions are fact-based while others’ are not, even when your statements are almost certainly made up just to make your opinion sound better.

I don’t want you to think I just came over to bash you, but this is pretty awful. I’m sure the rest of the BCBers will fall quickly in line and begin bashing me so this will be my last comment in this thread, but to use some words you used recently with me, you should be ashamed of yourself.

by Maddog on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just want to know

do you have any shots of gameday live to back up these statements?

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're funny.

I know evidence around here is off limits, but I had no idea people who actually had evidence were made fun of. Good stuff.

by Maddog on Aug 4, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh get over it and have a sense of humor...

your gameday postings were a bit humorous and I brought those to light here. There are some valid points made here, I just enjoyed your last tirade including the illustrations…that’s all.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough...

... I thought I had made a post about the Cuban/personal gain comment, but apparently it didn’t post when I made ANOTHER post in this thread.

What I had intended to post was that yes, the DWTS promo was the reason he came. He came with a camera crew, and sat in the bleachers on a media credential, not a game ticket.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 100 years are irrelevant.

What matters is now. Tribco isn’t responsible for more than the last 27 years. And from 1908-1945, the Cubs were a perennial contender that made the World Series six times. The fact that they didn’t win doesn’t mean they weren’t winnerrs then.

The “falling concrete” is also irrelevant.

And finally, yes, he WAS only in the bleachers to promote “DWTS”. A camera crew from the show was there with him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is all this irrelevant?

Seems to me you just dismissed Faria’s point “without providing any real rebuttal.” The Tribune aren’t wholly responsible for the futility of the last 27 years, but they bear the lion’s share.
-They’ve been cheap when it came to buying free agents, despite the fact that the club is a cash cow.
-They let Greg Maddux take a walk.
-For some damn reason Ed Lynch is still on the payroll, despite his own unique role in perpetuating the paucity of titles on the north side.
-And here’s where the falling concrete is certainly relevant: they were so busy counting their copious profits, they let the stadium slide into such a state of disrepair that visiting team regularly complain about their accommodations and the team has to put up nets to prevent chunks of concrete from falling on people. That alone is an egregious act of corporate neglect and mismanagement, but when taken in concert with 25 of the 27 years being paradigm instances of a team considering profits over winning, it’s a picture of an group of people who had no business owning a professional baseball team.

100 years isn’t irrelevant, Al. It’s exactly what one should expect from an organization that doesn’t care about winning and a sheep-like fanbase that enables them.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let's rebut YOUR points, then.

Cheap buying free agents? Only under MacPhail. The Trib before and after that has ALWAYS spent money—not always wisely, as in the purchases of free agents like Candy Maldonado, Dave Smith, Mel Rojas, etc. But they DID spend.

I think we all agree that the Maddux departure was a huge mistake on the organization’s part. Point given.

So Ed Lynch still draws a check. So what? How has he hurt this club since he was fired as GM?

The current management has acknowledged the problems with the physical plant and has already begun to fix them (the new bleachers, one step).

So “100 years” really does have nothing to do with what is going on in the here and now. Your examples don’t really fit your snark.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

So the Cub bought names guys they knew would put butts in the seats. Thanks for proving my point. They spent money unwisely because they didn’t care. The return on the investment was guaranteed, because the return was in ticket sales, not on-field production.

We don’t know how Ed Lynch’s continued presence hurts this club, but it’s nearly impossible for someone like that not to be a detriment to any baseball organization of which he’s a part. There’s no reason for TribCo not to have cut ties with him other than they just don’t care.

Of course you’d note the bleachers, where you and your family sit. What about the families who sit in the seats in the crumbling grandstand? Once again, you’re just proving my point. It’s been two years since the nets went up and in the space of time, TribCo has added new, more expensive seats in the bleachers, added two different sets of new, more expensive seats in the field box areas, and done exactly zero to fix the falling concrete. The nets are still up, just Ed Lynch is still here. They don’t care, because the park is full. Concrete is being kept from people’s heads by nets, and TribCo doesn’t care, because everyone keeps sitting there anyway.

100 years matters because for the last 27, we’ve been bamboozled by a bunch of starched shirts who plied Cub fans with the odious “Loveable Losers” image, sold us on Wrigley instead of winning baseball, and, when Cub fans did rumble a bit, tossed us some big-name free agent, who was either a flash in the pan or on the downside of their career. If it hadn’t have been for the Tribune’s elevation of profit margins over winning, there wouldn’t have been a 100 year drought.

And at this point, nothing can fit my snark. Not even yours.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Butts in the seats?

You’ve got to be joking. Mel Rojas and Dave Smith were going to sell tickets? Tell me another funny joke.

You’re parroting the anti-Tribco line that’s been out there for a decade or more, and a lot of it is valid criticism. The falling concrete thing isn’t, because they are well aware that something needs to be done, and something is likely to be done by new ownership. Why you harp on that is beyond me.

To paraphrase your own words, if it hadn’t been for the Tribune Company, we’d have likely seen the last 27 years just about like the previous 27 - mostly last-place teams with a hint of contention, but never even making the playoffs. At least Tribco tried. The biggest mistake they made was letting Dallas Green go instead of letting him take over as team president. That would have spared us guys like Lynch - who isn’t a symbok, he’s a footnote.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your TribCo apologetics are nauseating.

THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING EXCEPT NETS ABOUT CONCRETE FALLING ON FANS’ HEADS. Nothing. I’m harping on it, because it’s exemplary of the callousness which TribCo displays towards their fans. Concrete is falling, and they put up nets. For two years.

Secondly, I’m not “parroting,” though such a pedantic accusation displays your futility here. I’m stating what I infer from the observable facts. In short, I’m backing up my statements with evidence. Those facts tell me that what TribCo really cares about is having max capacity every game/event. Perhaps they tell you something different. I’m kind of used to being in the minority when it comes to Cub fans, so I guess it’s likely you just don’t see what’s staring you right in the face.

If TribCo was trying, why did they let Dallas Green go? Why did they Let Maddux walk? Why do they keep Lynch around? You keep trying to rebut my claims and end up proving them or making them stronger. TribCo didn’t try to win, they tried to turn a profit, and in that regard, they were massively successful. They let Green go, let MAddux walk, keep Lynch around, and give their fans nets when they should give them a new grandstand because they don’t care about anything but the bottom line.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with your Dallas Green...

...comment. If Dallas would have been given reasonable financial resources and a FREE reign to do what he wanted from a baseball perspective, the Cubs would have been a consistant playoff team for a long time.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 4, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The key moment here...

...is when the Trib announced (or knew) they were selling the club. From that point on, they really opened the purse strings (and seriously back loaded deals) because they knew the bulk of the bills wouldn’t be paid on their watch. I understand they did spend some money before that point (enouph to do better than they did), but it was not to the level that their revenues allowed them to.

Also, McPhail’s influence was good in some ways (from a business standpoint), but probably not so good from a pure baseball standpoint. The long track record of the Cubs not producing position players put tremendous pressure on needing to sign FA’s (some of them poor choices) and IMO, was because their player development philosophy was broken for a long time. There is no question in my mind, that if the Trib’s number one goal was to win, McPhail and Hendry would have been gone years ago.

Now, coming to present day, it looks as though the baseball operations piece (from minor leagues on up) is in much better shape then it was just a short while ago. Again, I think Piniella has been a huge influence in this area as well as Wilkinson in the minor leagues. Piniella is not going to be around forever, and I really think the organization is in need of a good baseball mind to oversee the entire baseball operations piece.

Just my opinion and we’ll see what new ownership brings.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This:
The key moment here…

...is when the Trib announced (or knew) they were selling the club. From that point on, they really opened the purse strings (and seriously back loaded deals) because they knew the bulk of the bills wouldn’t be paid on their watch. I understand they did spend some money before that point (enouph to do better than they did), but it was not to the level that their revenues allowed them to.

is exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about with TribCo. Exactly.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball of all sports...

...requires you to spend to win and to be able to recruit FA’s to help round out your team. I realize there have lower payroll teams who have won, but the fact is, it is next to impossible to maintain a top level team (for extended periods like the Yankees, Red Sox and Angels) if you don’t spend properly to make that happen.

From a personal opinion, I have never been crazy about guys who seek attention for themselves whether they are owners or players who showboat on the field. With that said, I also understand everybody is wired differently and some need that limelight to be at their best. Without knowing the other potential owners and their motivations, I have a high degree of confidence that Cuban’s ego will drive him to spend money, because he wants to be viewed as the guy who really brought the franchise to the elite level of teams. That’s a good thing, and not very much unlike what Steinbrenner and his ego did for the Yankees starting in the 70’s.

My biggest concern with any owner, is having the savvy to put (or keep) good baseball people in charge, give them what they need to succeed and to hold them accountable (within reason) to produce results. IMO, I think Cuban is smart enough to do this and his ego will also drive him to be viewed as a guy who is a great guardian for the franchise.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 4, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I'm concerned about re: Cuban.

That his ego would make him say, “I can do EVERYTHING better than it has been done”, when in reality, the organization has been run, at least on a marketing level, very successfully. Obviously, the baseball side has not, but in the last couple of years it has turned around and is clearly going in the right direction—all it needs is a continued cash infusion (which Tribco has started, and no one can deny that) and adding to the baseball staff without interference in what it’s trying to do from an owner without intimate knowledge of the industry.

If Cuban is willing to do that - and goes on public record as saying so, that he’d keep the current bunch intact, give them more resources and spend where necessary - well then, I’d be his biggest backer.

But he’ll have to say so. He hasn’t. Yet.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Cuban's been the one...

... going on sports talk radio and being interviewed in articles discussing the potential purchase. I don’t see other bidders doing that, either. He comes across to me - whether you agree with this or not, it is my perception - that he sees the Cubs as the pinnacle of his career, a personal playtoy for him to do with as he pleases.

Now, my perception may very well be wrong. But unless he comes out and says it’s not, I’m going to think that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not true...

The point is, that You think he thinks that. If he buys them, its not his pinnacle, selling the Dot.com was. Like I’ve said here before, the national media gives him a bad rap, I have seen him on a day-to day basis(being from here). He has changed, mellowed some if you will, I have not always been a Cuban fan, but I have seen the passion and dedication he puts into winning! Thats what we all want, right?

ernie81

by ernie81 on Aug 4, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure...

...your going to get any potential owner to give a firm indication of what their plans are with baseball operations. I think you will get a lot of general statements from potential owners (if they choose to comment) in regards to what they will do when and if they take over.

I do agree, if Cuban or any other owner would choose to medal in baseball operation decisions, that won’t be a good thing.

IMO, any owner who comes in here, is going to either hire a new president of baseball operations or a senior advisor (similar to what the Hawks just did with Scotty Bowman) who the new owner would lean on as someone he trusts 100% (because he brought them on) to give the owner insight as to what is going on and what may need to improve.

I just can’t see someone paying 1 billion + and not having a go to person that is put in place by them.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 4, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'M NotSure...;-)

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 4, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should be a good thing

I think Cuban would be great for the Cubs. Sure he promotes himself – why not? He’s got the money – he has the ambition – I believe he will take pride in owning one of the most popular teams in baseball and try like hell to make them a winner for a long time

by longtimecubfan on Aug 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interview, Al?

Al, any thoughts of interviewing Cuban here for BCB? He’s pretty responsive to email, and he could address any of your issues while assuaging the thousands of Cubs fans that regularly visit here….

Plus, it could be a step towards you becoming Carrie Muskat’s permanent replacement as official Cubs blogger/reporter….

by Chadnudj on Aug 4, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great idea!

try to get some answers to the “what if”s.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've tried.

When I met him in Vegas I asked him; he said to email him and I did. He emailed back and said he couldn’t.

I have emailed him again within the last two weeks - no response. I’ll try again, though. He told me in Vegas that he had read BCB - I don’t know if he still does.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he couldn't

with all the bidding and such. perhaps after the deal gets done for whomever to own the Cubs, he will join you.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could this be the reason for your dislike?

ernie81

by ernie81 on Aug 4, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like to think that he's one of the people on the game threads

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least

We finally figured out why you don’t like him.

If he fawned over your little site like you were hoping he would, you would be drooling over him owning the team.

I don't want a championship if it isn't going to be in Wrigley

by CubbieBlue4Ever on Aug 4, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't you just full of rainbows and unicorn farts.

That’s an awful big chip you have there for someone who’s only been here for a month.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I will probably be banned soon. I don’t plan on spewing the BCB company line. I’ll disagree, and point out douchebaggery when it needs to be pointed out

I don't want a championship if it isn't going to be in Wrigley

by CubbieBlue4Ever on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a difference

between not toeing the company line by RESPECTFULLY disagreeing and being a jackass. Everyone here should try and remember that you are a guest. Act like one. You wouldn’t say stuff like this after being invited over to a friend’s house for dinner. If you did, you would be polite about it and phrase it is such a way that it wasn’t offensive. If you were to say this, you would probably find yourself on your butt in the street.

Be polite and remember that you are a guest. That doesn’t mean you can’t disagree with Al, just do it respectfully for goodness sakes.

by Archie on Aug 5, 2008 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Better not look in a mirror then...

I fear the “douchebaggedness” may overwhelm thee. You my friend are, bag, tube, and sanitizing fluids all wrapped up in one little annoying package!

Oh, let me not forget the “not so fresh” odor you carry about as well.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 5, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

dbag...

point out thyself.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

you’re kind of a donkey aren’t ya? Welcome to BCB, now feel free to exit.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what has he done with the Mavericks?

For all of the action he has taken—I don’t see any rings. All smoke and mirrors. Yes, he took a terrible franchise and made it…one that wins games, but not one that wins championships.

It’s all about Mark. That’s not wanted, or needed in this situation.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 3, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Cuban should have a ring.

The Mavs choked against the Heat. Not his fault..the coaches/players fault.

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 3, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The devils advocate says...

... then why blame Tribune Co. for the Cubs five playoff failures since 1984? It’s the coaches/players fault.

Right?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 3:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will you blame the Trib this year

If the Cubs don’t win it all?

I won’t. All you can ask from an owner is to put together a team that is capable of winning a championship. The rest has to be accomplished by that team. Cuban has done that in Dallas (though they are currently on a down-swing).

by SuperContext on Aug 4, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I have posted before...

... you can build a team to make the playoffs. Trib management has done that, and it appears they will make the postseason this year, barring a complete collapse. Once you get in, it’s a crapshoot. Last year’s playoffs proved that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Competitiveness Is The Thing

The responsibility of the owner is to provide the financial resources from which a team can build a competitive franchise. The Tribune Co., to its credit, has done a good job of that, in recent years. Cuban has done an even better job of that with the Mavericks. In short, I don’t blame owners for postseason failures. I do blame owners when their teams are consistently not competitive.

Cuban appears to the best option as Cubs owner looking forward. No, he won’t be the Cubs “savior”. He would be inheriting a good situation. With Cuban as owner, I see the Cubs staying competitive on a consistent basis. Whether or not, that translates into World Series championships is another matter.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 4, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty high standard

By your measure, every year 29 NBA franchises are failures. While that may be true in the literal sense, I doubt that applies in the real world. Only one team can win a championship every year in a given sport/league, and ultimately these things are decided on the field (court, rink, etc.). I would think if an owner creates a positive environment and provides the necessary funding to get good talent on and off the field, thereby putting his/her team in position to win a championship, that would be a successful franchise.

We have seen the Cubs do this in the last few years. And now, through no fault of the Cubs but by the nature of the business world, ownership is about to change hands. I see nothing to indicate that if Cuban were to become the new owner, he would derail this progress. You may not like him, but he’s not stupid.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 3, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's a dot com boy

too rich too young. Now he thinks he’s invincible. I prefer a more mature owner for the cubs. This is one of those rare moments when I agree with the establishment. I just don’t see him as contributing well to the sport.

by Emelie on Aug 3, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

completely off topic

since when does being smart, young, and rich qualify as a bad thing? stop hating

by cubswynn on Aug 3, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that young

he just turned 50!!!!!!!!!!

by JPetey on Aug 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubswynn

My friend, you hit it right on the head. What the hell does maturity have to do with anything? If you’re xxx years old, that makes you a better suitor.

And too rich? I don’t even have the words for that…

I’m thinking there are other factors that maybe some aren’t mentioning for why they don’t like Cuban, who clearly now is the front-runner. Some crow may need to be eaten!

by lamentir on Aug 4, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

this argument just doesn't make sense on so many counts
Now he thinks he’s invincible

So what? Would you prefer someone who thinks he is stupid?
I prefer a more mature owner for the cubs

Cuban is a very successful business man and made his money and name with his sheer acumen or do you think he made all the money in a casino or that the tooth fairy gave him all the riches?
I just don’t see him as contributing well to the sport.

Umm..please pass on whatever crystal ball you are using or please care to elucidate why he is not going to contribute to the sport.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 4, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"All smoke and mirrors"????

Wow, this takes the cake. It’s not like he’s just sitting on his hands.

by lamentir on Aug 4, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not always a fair...

...judgement to say a guy is not really a good owner because he has not won a championship.

We all know that you need a few breaks now and then to win championships, and the most important thing is if you put your team in a position to win championships on a consistant basis. Also, I don’t think he has owned the Mavs for 20-30 years like some owners who have never won anything.

Lastly, this same criteria is sometimes placed on players who never win a championship and whether they should be in the HOF. This is another judgment that can be very unfair.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 4, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The whole “NBA argument” is getting real old and showing that people are really running out of things when coming up w/ why Cuban shouldn’t be running this team.

I can already see some backtracking on this thread alone, and expect more to follow.

by lamentir on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't Cuban's fault

that Dwyane Wade spent the entire 2006 NBA Finals at the free throw line…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is your answer

This is from the NYT article:

For all his excesses, Cuban, 50, is a successful owner. The Mavericks have averaged 57.3 wins in eight full seasons with him as their courtside benefactor, have reached the playoffs in each of those seasons and lost to Miami in the 2006 finals.

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 4, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

$1.3 billion offer....staggering

When you think the Tribune Company bought the Cubs lock, stock and barrel for $20 million in 1982. $1.3 billion for a sports franchise is mind boggling. Especially in light of the fact that Wrigley Field is going to need a several hundred million renovation job in the not too distant future in order to remain “viable” in the modern age of big money baseball. All I know is that it’s going to be to the point where the cheapest seat in the house is $125, to include the bleachers. And to be sure there will be some techno-monstrosity scoreboard at some point.

by MDBNIU on Aug 3, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

they have done pretty well

attendance wise, without all the bells and whistles (distractions from the game) of the newer parks. IMO, Cuban will be a “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” kind of owner.

Obviously there are areas of the stadium that are “broke” and should be addressed, but no way would that include a jumbo-tron scoreboard, or a swimming pool.

Who saw Cuban when he made his visit a few months back, he looked like a little kid seeing it all for the first time. He loved the place and I’m willing to bet he’s smart enough not to reinvent the wheel.

"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." Frank Costello

by kalamazoo_cubs_fan on Aug 3, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

If he were an "ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of guy...

... I’d feel differently. I don’t see him that way. Maybe I’m wrong; if he does become the owner and turns out that way… I’ll say so.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

We won't have to worry about the aesthetics

of the ball park. Those are protected by the landmark agreement. The agreement includes “views” of various sections as well as the iconic scoreboard, ivy and marquee.

What will eventually happen is when the ballpark can no longer be financially viable, then it’s ‘bye bye’ just like Chicago Stadium.

Well folks, keep cheering for the Cubs this week. I’d love to see them get 5 of the next 6 at home. I’m off to Qatar come tomorrow. I doubt I will have much time to do anything on the web the next several days.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 3, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

This is an unpopular thought....

....but it is not outside the realm of possibility that the Cubs are playing in a different ballpark in 10 years. As a regular attendee of games at Wrigley it is my opinion the venerable ballpark is in need of loads of infrastructure work. And like it or not, the world demands modern day accoutrements that Wrigley simply cannot provide. I hope to have my first visit to the remodeled Fenway Park in a few weeks. I’ve been told the job done on Fenway is mind blowing. Can this same type “remodel” be accomplished at Wrigley? Is he new owner prepared to shell out $400 million to do the job? Or will determination be at the end of the day to do the unthinkable and build a brand new ballpark elsewhere while maintain Wrigley Field as a baseball museum.

I hope Wrigley never goes away. But I’m not so sure that is a wish that can withstand the future.

by MDBNIU on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Building??

He built a new stadium for the Mav’s, we call it Mark Cuban place..

ernie81

by ernie81 on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

He built it?

Did he pay for it? Or did the people of Dallas pay for it?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand comments like these...

If the world demands “modern day accoutrements that Wrigley simply cannot provide”, then why do the Cubs sell out every game? And why does cub after cub absolutley rave about the environment? See Reed Johnson’s comments yesterday..

Why does wrirgley need mondern amenities??

Maybe some structural work for safety reasons. But modern amenities?? Why?

The red and white bulls

by Scott 9 on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's be honest....

...the best part of Wrigley is the scoreboard, bleachers, ivy covered brick and the Waveland/Sheffield streetwall. Those obviously can’t go.

There isn’t that much else that can’t be upgraded or replaced. The Cubs did a fantastic job with the bleacher and field upgrades, why would we think that the same couldn’t be done with the grandstand. In fact, the columns in the grandstand are one of the detrimental parts of the current Wrigley experience. They could go away tomorrow and I doubt anyone would miss them.

I say tear down and replace the grandstand with modern amenities (while maintaining an homage to history), build the triangle building, improve the surrounding neighborhood (including streetscaping on Waveland, Sheffield, Clark, Addison and the street between the triangle and the ballpark, similar to Yawkey Way), play at the Cell for a year or two, and have a ballpark worthy of the Cubs for the next 100 years.

We should respect history, but we should also understand that Wrigley has evolved into its current form slowly and with many incremental changes (there even used to be advertising on the outfield walls!), and those changes should continue to keep the ballclub competitive in the modern baseball world.

Finally, it seems appropriate that some expansion of the grandstand is needed to keep up with the ever increasing demand for tickets. Realizing there will be traffic/parking issues, the new owner will obviously need to build a consensus with the community, but there can be no questions that increased revenue streams are needed in the long term to fund the payroll necesary to compete year in and year out.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

He didnt become a billionaire on accident.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 4, 2008 12:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Neither did the other billionaires or groups of millionaires bidding.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't this all that matters?

From yesterday’s Tribune:

Most of the Cubs players are in Cuban’s corner, especially knowing that every Mavericks players’ locker is equipped with a miniaturized version of a home theater system.

“He’s doing a great job in Dallas and I’m sure he would come in here and do a good job,” Lee said. “He’s passionate about winning. That’s his main concern—putting a winning product out there—plus he’s a lot of fun. He really gets into it. He’s not just a guy who throws his money in and is hands-off. He’s hands-on and involved, so I think it would be a lot of fun.”

Imagine if the NBA didn’t have a salary cap, Cuban would build a dominant franchise. He can do that in the MLB. He can build a franchise that all players want to play for. Cuban is a very smart business man, who also loves to win championships. How this is a bad situation, I don’t know. (Also my first post, I love the site, and very happy to join the community!)

by Fukudome is my Homie on Aug 4, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

You didn't post the rest of that article...

... (also, please use the quotebox for quotes from other articles, and links. Thanks.)...

but the rest of the article said the players didn’t particularly care who bought the team, as long as they continued to be committed to winning.

Also, I think “a miniaturized version of a home theater system” in each player’s locker isn’t exactly the best reason to like an owner. As a player, maybe. As a fan, not so much.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can own Team Kinky if he wants to....

so long as I get MY own mini theatre, I would also like a new car, and if possible, a larger home with a yard.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok.

but he’s going to want to tattoo WWW.MARKCUBAN.COM across forehead.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al...Where has he ever stated/insinuated that he wants to be the "savior" of the franchise?

I just see a guy who has the means and the chance to buy one of the premiere sports franchises in the world. A franchise that has fan-base practically guaranteeing a profit. From a business standpoint it’s a pretty good investment. I see the Cubs as an entity that will always be bigger than any one person, no matter how “publicly involved” an owner wants to make himself.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I guess I don't have much of an opinion on what I do want here

I know what I DON’T want—I don’t want to win a single world-championship and then watch the team get dismantled a-la the Marlins.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

The Marlins do have 2 more championships

in the last 12 years than the Cubs have in the last 100. I agree that I don’t like what marlins management have done, but I’d love to know what two WS titles within 10 years feels like.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

So would I.

But again, “100 years” is irrelevant. The Marlins have two more titles than the Cubs have had in the last 12. That’s what is relevant. Your point that Marlins management hasn’t run the franchise well except for those two years is the salient point.

How many postseason appearances do the Marlins have in the last 12? Two. How many have the Cubs had? Three. Well then—who’s better? I’m playing devils advocate here.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Marlins run the franchise that way

because they have to; they’re a small market team. And the fact that they’ve been able to floss the system twice in a ten year span with a limited budget, while the Cubs under TribCo haven’t been able to do it in 100 is an even bigger indictment of TribCo inept management of this team. I don’t like what the MArlins did, because I know how much that must’ve sucked for their fans, but I understand why they did it. The Cubs wouldn’t have to do that because they have much more money to work with. What the Marlins have been able to do, both in terms of developing youn talent and winning titles should shame the Cubs.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 4, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point Drew

but I DO want that WS championship and that is concern/need #1. After that, I will line up my complaints if this is the plan of the new owner.

I just don’t see why an owner would dismantle a money maker. While the Cubs have drawn crowds even when they are losing, the winning trend has most certainly brought record crowds to Wrigley. A smart business man/woman would make small moves if necessary but keep this team in contention for years to come.

Well, this smart business man would at least.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh, I agree

It’s not Cuban that has been suspected of thinking of doing this, it’s Selig’s buddy, whose name I cannot remember.

If Cuban’s willing to throw money at the Cubs, I don’t have a specific problem; I don’t see him being able to interfere the same ways he could on an NBA court. At the same time, I don’t want him to outshine the players, either.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

the players are who belong on the court/field. Fortunately the owners box (for now at least) is not field level as far as I know. I am sure this can change but the free spending ways is not something I am scared of.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

think he could

just take over the CBOE seats? Or maybe he could expand the third-base dugout… :D

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he'll sing

TMOTTBG every day, too. And arrange the lights on the top of the grandstand to spell out his name.

And he’ll name the hotdogs after himself! “Why smoke a cuban when you can eat one?”

:P

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

See?!?!?!

Look! He’s started already and he doesn’t even own the team yet!

:)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

yay!

I type, and the picture arrives! :D

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Maybe he can have the Cuba(n) national anthem played before every game. Maybe they can give away paper cutouts of his face on a stick every day, so that everyone can be Mark Cuban.

by Archie on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be silly...

that will only be on Mark Cuban day (which happens to occur every other weekday and 1 weekend day as well)!

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

that second one, I really can see…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can see it now...

no literally, I can see it now.

Calm down.

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

OK, so putting this back into all seriousness

Another question: Who cares about the appearance he made in the bleachers if it was promoting a show or what? He was wearing a Cubs jersey, from all accounts was cheering for the team and did few interviews, rather to stay focused on the game. It really doesn’t matter if he bought a ticket or was on a media credential…newsflash-if he buys the team, he’ll be on an owner credential.

Also, in early May this year, he was at a game in the TribCo’s seats (front row). Is that OK? Does he have to buy a ticket to a game to be taken seriously?

Also, Gary Varsho, you’ve brought up some interesting comments that I had yet to realize about the concrete, etc. Thanks for a different perspective.

by lamentir on Aug 4, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I like this quote
For all his excesses, Cuban, 50, is a successful owner. The Mavericks have averaged 57.3 wins in eight full seasons with him as their courtside benefactor, have reached the playoffs in each of those seasons and lost to Miami in the 2006 finals.

It’s going to be hard for another potential owner to cut through the noise of this man. He seems like the sort of guy who gets what he wants when he wants it.

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

One other thing...

...Cuban started HDNet from scratch…If you haven’t watched it, some of the best documentary television going.

He hired Dan Rather off the scrap heap and I think hes doing some of the best work of his career.

I truly believe he’s the kind of guy that will be successful at whatever he tries…and that would be a good thing for the franchise.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.

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