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Do-It-Yourself August 30 Game Recap: Cubs 2, Phillies 5

Today, my son Mark, of whom I have written often here, "became a man" in the Jewish tradition, by celebrating his Bar Mitzvah. Although I was at the ballpark today, there's a party tonight and I don't have time to write the usual complete recap of today's 5-2 Cub loss to the Phillies. Thus, I've provided everything you need here to create your own.

This afternoon at Wrigley Field, the Cubs against the Phillies. Ted Lilly and Kerry Wood . Ryan Theriot . Carlos Marmol , so instead pitched. Cotts . Mike "The Wonder Hamster" Fontenot and that came right after Geovany Soto . Alfonso Soriano . There were more than Cub fans in attendance today, keeping the club on pace to break last year's attendance record. The weather was . Tomorrow afternoon, the Cubs will against the Phillies. Manager Lou Piniella's comments after today's game included: . The Fox-TV telecast was, as usual, mediocre because . Finally, the biggest news from this afternoon's game is that .

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Ye gods, the Pirates are bad...

Milwaukee 2, Yucks 0, top of 4th…

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 30, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yarr! I be a pirate, ye lily-livered bucko… To the poop deck!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 30, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fist time in a long time I haven't gotten to lower the # on my avatar....

let’s hope I can after the Brewers game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no "Magic" in Number 22....

…Let’s get away from “Prior” and onto “Marquis” (NOT Sosa) ASAP.

GO PIRATES!

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Prior?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 30, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly....

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 30, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I meant "Popovich"...

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't look like that is going to happen score :(

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8-2 in the 9th inning is what I meant to put

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Cotts choices were dead on

(You did script this before the game, right ??)

by TORCO on Aug 30, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't

Cotts and Howry are the two bullpen pitchers with the most Gas Can Potential, imho.

Tough game for our cubs, let’s start a new winning streak tomorrow, then go after the Carlos Lee-less Astros.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 30, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It almost seems as if it would take longer to make that little chart thing then do a recap

Just messin around! Tell your boy welcome to manhood!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 30, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there a catcher in the house?

I played outfield, 1b, and the occasional mop-up on the mound. And MDB was a second baseman right? Mikey was all-world something down in Georgia and I know we’ve got at least a couple umps in the audience, But I’m hoping somewhere in BCB-land there is someone who has worn the tools of ignorance and can speak intelligently to the matter at hand, which is…

On a play at the plate, why do catchers go out to catch the ball instead of letting the ball come to them? I understand the need to do that if the throw is off line. And I also understand the need to NOT let yourself be a sitting duck in front of the plate when somebody the size of Ryan Howard comes barreling in if you don’t have the ball.

But Dome’s throw today (forget what inning) WAS on line. And Soto had plenty of room to spare before any chance of collision. Yet he still went up several feet to catch the ball and then wasted a lot of time by having to turn around and move back towards the plate to try and tag a sliding Howard.

I watched the replay and it sure seemed to me that had Soto just stationed himself on the first base side of the plate and let the ball come to him, he would have had plenty of time to turn around, put the glove down and let Howard slide into it. Anyone else see it like that or am I missing something?

I like Soto, so no problems there. This is just one of those baseball plays, like sliding headfirst into first, that I see a lot of and just don’t get. I know there are certain situations where it makes sense, but those are few and far between, and today sure didn’t seem like one of those.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 30, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was out of position

Geo’s been great, but there have been a handful of plays this year where he’s done a poor job of blocking the dish. He’s relatively new to catching and I’m pretty sure that he’ll work on that.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 30, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree that Soto genrally seems to avoid

collisions, when possible. Today, it did seem that blocking the plate and letting the ball come to him would have been the better move…but the game is so “bang-bang,” it is hard to fault split second judgements like this.

My bigger gripe is with the ump on the HBP that loaded that bases on the 0-2 pitch on the batter before this play. It sure looked like the batter literally had his hands in the strike zone and he was leaning into the plate. It should have been strike 3. What an odd play. I know that is what Lilly was griping about. That HBP on the 0-2 count caused all the problems.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stranded early runners were the real problem

But yes, that looked like strike 3.

Soto hung in there for a collision against Fielder on May 1. I don’t think it’s fear, I think it’s inexperience leading to bad positioning.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 30, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Can’t strand that many early in the game. I think it sucked the momentum out of them

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2008 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know that sometimes the type of hop that you are going to get will dictate where you try to get the ball. It looked like if Soto had stayed back, the ball might have bounced again and gotten him into a short hop situation. It is very hard to tag a sliding runner off of a short hop because to play it correctly, you have to bring your glove up off of the ground with the ball to catch it cleanly and then get your glove back down to the ground quickly to tag the runner.

Just guessing, but I wonder if that is why Soto came towards first a bit to field that ball…

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Carey

by Archie on Aug 30, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he moved up because he didnt expect a play at the plate

once he realized Howard was coming it was too late

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the natural instinct is

to go to the ball. It’s a difficult habit to break. Being told to wait back and actually being able to in a game situation, are two very different things. It took my pitcher getting badly spiked covering home for me while I went out to take a throw from centerfield to break me of that particular habit. My guess is, that it is something Geo and Matt Sinatro will work on extensively, maybe next spring. I’m sure they’ve told him to wait back….this isn’t the first time I’ve noticed him creeping up….but it’s not an easy remember in the heat of the game. Geo looks like a pretty quick study. He’ll get it. All in all I think he’s doing a fabulous job.

by MOCubsfan on Aug 30, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the catcher's call as to whether there's a play at the plate,

and if not, he is to move to whatever position necesary in order to make anyother potential play at any other given base.

Not saying that was the case here (as I did not see the game), but having caught my whole life through college, that’s the general rule.

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by lostinthevines on Aug 31, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks to all the back-seat catchers out there

Good, well-thought out replies. I thought about the “avoiding the in-between hop” factor after I posted my original query. Can’t tell if that was the case in this particular play, but as many of you pointed out, that’s another legitimate reason to move up and catch the ball.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 31, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

He was out of position. Period.

(I caught, but I sucked.)

by santo4hof on Aug 30, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I watched that play

on TV a few times…Soto seemed to be moving in slow motion…I thought he was going to be out by 5 steps when the throw was coming in..

I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After a few reviews,

as best I can tell Soto was a little too far in front of the plate AND THEN decided to play the bounce. The throw came in low and was at the point of bouncing again in front of the plate when Geo snagged it early and went for the reach around tag. He may have gotten handcuffed by the ball in the dirt if he had let it go closer to the plate. It’s one of those bang-bang calls a player makes on the play, and hopefully he learns from it for next month.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 31, 2008 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Carls post above. Things went south when Victorino stuck his arm out there and took one for the team. I hope the next time it happens we put somebody on their back.

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by O'Cub on Aug 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Ultey has intentionally gotten hit two days in a row. I’m not an advocate of intentional HBP and have said that many times here, but I think it’s time to send him a message that if he’s going to get hit on purpose, there will be a bruise.

Definitely below the shoulders, though!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 30, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Utley

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 30, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we'll get them tomorrow.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 30, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

….lost one to a good team, so many breaks have gone our way in this series so far, karma caught up today.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Aug 30, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised

when Soto struck out in the 8th, ending the threat with the bases loaded.

Alas, I was NOT surprised when Cedeno struck out. :(

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 30, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised

when Reed Johnson struck out. We really let Romero off the hook in that inning. He had no idea where the strike zone was. Only Dome seemed to notice this…

"It's Happening..."

by Goodie1969 on Aug 30, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The home plate ump

didn’t have any idea where the strike zone was either.

by ChipSet on Aug 31, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More and more of the personal strike zone lately.

It’s been awful

CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on Aug 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soto

That ball was not a strike. Terrible strike zone all game.

by dr stabbingworth on Aug 31, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most people thought, it'd be 3-of-4 right?

Might as well win tomorrow and make us all look smart…

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Aug 31, 2008 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's always tough to watch a guy like Romero celebrate

as if he just threw an inning like Sandy Koufax when in fact the Cubs got themselves out. Z’s gotta pick it up tomorrow but I like the Cub chances of beating Moyer even if Z gives up some runs.

by the nth on Aug 30, 2008 11:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think Z was going tomorrow?

He in the midst of the dreaded “dead-arm” period right now and so Marshall was spot starting in his place.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Aug 31, 2008 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated watching him celebrate too

but because we failed to convert that inning. Romero had good stuff, and he struck out three side after coming in with a bunch of baserunners. He is entitled to celebrate.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 31, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox Jinx

The Cubs have better learn how to win when the Fox banner is flying if they want to go far in October. The last two (maybe more?) have been dismal. I sure don’t want to put up with another year of billygoat crap if the Fox jinx continues.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Aug 31, 2008 6:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to see Cotts in the playoffs.

Don’t we have a lefty in the minors that can get somebody out.

by Rick B on Aug 31, 2008 8:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim

I’m sorry…but that was a really FUNNY recap.

by jimvanders on Aug 31, 2008 8:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cubs

gotta lose sometimes.let,s hope z gets his act together and pitches a good game.has,nt been very good lately.a split would probably leave us with a 4 and a half game lead since the pirates dont look like they,ll ever win again. there,s still time for the brewers to catch up so let,s not get crazy here.but if the cards keep tanking then it will be the brewers cubs no matter what with us getting the mets in the postseason

by NOMAR on Aug 31, 2008 8:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right now the Cubs would play Arizona. The D-Backs are 5.5 behind the Mets.

If you’re predicting that the NL East winner will have a worse record than the West winner, you might be right — but I’m not convniced the Mets will hold of the Phillies.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 31, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely Hilarious

Al, you’ve out done yourself here. I haven’t been around the site lately because of work but this was a great post to come back to and read after a lackluster game. You’ve cheered me up considerably, especially the Dick Stockton part, and the Neil Cotts part… so true!

by lswaidz on Aug 31, 2008 10:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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