Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Tuesday 8/5, 1:20 CT
by Al on Aug 5, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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Houston Astros at Chicago Cubs, Aug 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
A 40% chance of rain, it says. It'd be nice if all 40 of those percentage points held off till after the game.
Kerry Wood is ready and might be activated today; here's the only reason it might not happen:
The million-dollar question now becomes whom the Cubs will pay $1 million to take left-hander Scott Eyre in a waiver trade for a prospect -- the Boston Red Sox or Tampa Bay Rays, or even the Philadelphia Phillies or New York Yankees?
Or will they be forced to make an in-house roster move they don't want to make, such as optioning left-hander Sean Marshall to Class AAA Iowa?
In any case, he won't go back to closing immediately:
[Lou] Piniella said Wood will make at least one middle relief appearance — a "tuneup," he said — to make sure there are no complications from the blister. It's a caution the Cubs manager feels he can afford with Carlos Marmol, Bob Howry and Jeff Samardzija available to close.
Marmol and Samardzija, fine. Howry, not so much.
Finally, the Cubs want the Friday and Saturday night game ban lifted, but:"It might benefit the Cubs, but I don't think it would benefit the community. The challenge of bringing 40,000 people into the neighborhood is a burden on the community," said Ald. Tom Tunney (44th).
"We're at capacity on Friday and Saturday evenings. There's enough activity with the neighborhood restaurants and bars without the Cubs having night games. There might be unneeded extra activity at a time when those businesses are pretty full."
While this is true, I think the city and the team could make a compromise based on the baseball schedule each year, to allow the Cubs maybe one or two Fridays when they are returning home late from a road trip (as from Milwaukee last week, or Tampa in June).
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Note: as has been the case since the trade, the above line shows Rich Harden's numbers only with the Cubs; the pitcher box above that shows his combined totals with the Cubs and A's.
Wandy Rodriguez threw a nice game vs. the Cubs on July 19 in Houston, but his career ERA in Wrigley Field is 7.58. Lou decided to play matchups in resting D-Lee and Ryan Theriot last night -- both of them hit Rodriguez well (Lee: 8-for-19, 2 doubles, 2 HR, .421/.520/.842; Theriot: 8-for-14, a double, a HR, .571/.571/1.000).
Rich Harden has never faced the Astros, and the only one of their current lineup who has had any success against him from his AL days is Carlos Lee (3-for-9, one triple). Harden's combined total of 131 strikeouts ranks 13th in the majors, despite the fact that he has five fewer starts than anyone ahead of him.
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First?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 5, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Field looks fine this morning
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Aug 5, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
krukky defending his comment that the
fight might have been a good thing.
there’s a latin term that translates to ‘it happened before, hence it caused.’
the brewers could play better after the fight, but krukky is silly on that one
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
I think
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
but I think it actually means “after it and therefore because of it” same sentiment though.
by play it as it lies on Aug 5, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caveat emptor!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eamus Ursuli!
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Italia est paeninsula!
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Aug 5, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk said it'd be a good thing IF....
.....the parties involved sat down and worked it out. Somehow I don’t see Fielder having the maturity to actually do that.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden is such a freaking stud
I know this is lame to say, but I STILL can’t believe the Cubs got him and (!!!!!) Chad Gaudin. Jim Hendry might get some heat for a lot of trades he does, but I have to say that trade was the best he’s ever done.
That, and the Hee Sop Choi trade for that one first baseman.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 5, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hee-Seop Choi
Whoops
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 5, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I thought he only kinda yelled and hooted.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
purging bobby hill
for aram and a few good months from lofton
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one takes the cake.
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juan freakin' Pierre for Nolasco, Pinto and Mitre
Can you imagine having Nolasco as our 5th starter with a lefty Pinto in the bullpen with his 95-MPH top fastball? That’s nasty just to think about.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 5, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to my nightmare #456
Yeah, that was not good.
by zevkalman on Aug 5, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EVERYONE
freaked out about Dontrelle after he got good with the Marlins, but look at him now…I’ll take a proven player (such as Pierre was back during that trade) over prospects any day, especially with the loaded pitching we ‘had’ in our farm system back then…And hopes for the employee, among others. Those pitchers were expendable…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A number of us hated the Pierre trade when it happened
And still hate it now. Worst trade in Hendry’s tenure.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but I don’t think most fans (unless you REALLY had a beat on the farm system) hated it because we were giving up RICKY NOLASCO haha…Just saying that in the cases of trading away prospects, hindsight is always 20-20, obviously…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so,
but any time you trade for a rental player you’re leaving too much room for failure. It’s almost never worth giving up anyone above single A ball for a 2-3 month lease. What a waste. Watch what it does to the Brewers system once CC moves on, along with possibly Sheets and others.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Aug 5, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We hated it because we traded away 3 young arms
For a toy baseball player who never figured into our long-term plans.
As that season turned out… we would’ve ended up using Nolasco and Mitre in the rotation at some point… we needed arms that year.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
knee-jerk reaction.
...the trade was a response to losing furcal, and as such hendry bit and overpaid.
not his finest hour, but i still give him a net positive on his trades overall. and sometimes, giving up talent in previous trades helps build leverage for future trades so i think there are some positives to having prospects that you traded away pan out.
by bobby h on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As it turns out
You can add Nolasco, Mitre, and Pinto to the long list of players that ultimately ended up being traded for Harden. As, Josh Donaldson was the pick awarded to us for losing Pierre to FA.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can live with that!
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are way ahead of me here
I didn’t see this post until after I posted my “Oracle of Pierre” comment below.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 5, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
What i was thinking
Mike @ http://meetusatkinnick.
by mahossa on Aug 5, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indirectly, the Cubs ended up with Harden and Gaudin
as a result of Pierre signing with the Dodgers as a free agent.
If you want to find a positive in the Pierre trade, follow along with the “oracle of Juan Pierre” or “degrees of separation” game here:
Josh Donaldson was the supplemental draft pick for the loss of free agent Juan Pierre.
Donaldson was part of the deal that brought Harden and Gaudin over from the A’s.
Not that he was the key player in the trade, but he was part of the deal nonetheless, along with Sean Gallagher, Matt Murton, and Eric Patterson.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 5, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Purging Bobby Hill" - I LOVE that movie.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ANYONE for Hundley
Let alone contributors in 2003.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't it seem
like he just pitched, tho? Wow.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Nats SS day-to-day with pain in the *ss
by bobby h on Aug 5, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably from the pounding the Nats have taken all year long.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Aug 5, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting strategy...
“There might be unneeded extra activity at a time when those businesses are pretty full.”
so the good alderman thinks that businesses that are “pretty full” are full enough for him? do the businesses know he’s dictating capacity and income levels for them now? and the alderman doesn’t think any additional businesses could possibly open, thus relieving the pressure from some of these “pretty full” businesses?
i’m sure there are some logistical reasons to oppose more night games. but this seems like a pretty stupid one.
by billywan on Aug 5, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree. Tunney seems to
have a knee-jerk reaction to oppose the Cubs anytime they propose anything that might change the status quo. It seems like a good compromise to exchange a couple of dates to accomodate the team. I’m sure the businesses in the area would at least like to voice their opinion before the idea is shot down.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair....
...Tunney has a point. For the neighborhood businesses, being filled to capacity and making huge revenue before and after a night game on, say, a Tuesday (generally one of the slowest nights of a restaurant’s week) is much more preferable than having the night game played on a Friday, when your restaurant would be filled with post-game traffice for a day game anyways, PLUS the normal “it’s summer in Chicago, let’s go to Wrigleyville” weekend dining/bar crowd.
Consider it the VORN (value over replacement night) argument—a Friday night game might provide a small boost to Wrigleyville businesses’ bottom lines compared to normal Fridays, but not nearly as big a boost as a Tuesday night game compared to a normal Tuesday night.
by Chadnudj on Aug 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
it does space out the business on the day of the game. How many bar patrons would there be on a Friday afternoon if the Cubs were not playing? Not many. So, if they have the day game, they get the traffic in the afternoon and at night.
Formerly NO100
by jerry morales rules on Aug 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not both
why not tuesday night games AND friday night games? that’s what the cubs are going to push for….
by billywan on Aug 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball in the sun!
Gotta win today to take the series.
Go Cubs!
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone put together a top ten list
...of cubs top ten trades?
rami and the sandberg deals toward the top
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone posted
an Excel chart of Hendry’s trade history a while back- really good stuff. Anyone have it saved?
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EIGHTEENTH!!!
YES!
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First??
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Aug 5, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last nights game cost me a fortune!
I just moved into a new house and my cable is not connected so I went to the bar to watch it.
Ended up trying to wait out the rain…. “another beer please.” It was a pretty bill at the end of the night (when I gave up and went home)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Aug 5, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now you know where the bar is!
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And knowing is half the battle!
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything happens for a reason.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone know what today's lineup will look like?
by SoTxCub on Aug 5, 2008 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
righty heavy
sori lf
theriot ss
lee 1b
aram 3b
reed cf
soto c
dero rf
fontenot 2b
but onedec could be 8
my guess only
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9 consecutive baseball players....arranged shortest to tallest.
my best guess.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot leads off?
Lee bats ninth?
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1 - lol
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
23rd?
:)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahh...
well done, sir…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could someone get me some screencaps
of d.lee and reed laughing at berkman, and perhaps one of berkman himself?
by nathew on Aug 5, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed's reaction to them bailing was hilarious...
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the video of it is on cubs.com
I heart the riot. (www.riotshirts.com)
by RIOTSHIRTS.com on Aug 5, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great video
but unfortunately too small :\
by nathew on Aug 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone post a link to the picture of the lightning strike that ended the game last night? They showed the pic on ESPN multiple times but I can’t locate it on the web anywhere. You know, where it looked like the lightning hit the flag pole on top of the scoreboard?
by southernilcubfan on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Freaking Wow.
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure thats a photoshop
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's real...but this isn't.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.....
Crazy shit
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooooohhhhh, ok.
Sorry, my sarcasm font is on the fritz.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Aug 5, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1 - lol
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, the wind was DEFINITELY blowing out last night.
Actually, I guess it was blowing UP.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would have preferred hoffpauir
to ward, but the walk back to the dugout in iowa would’ve been dangerous in the weather.
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reading between the lines
wood to be used as a setup man before returning to closer
cardinals coming to town friday
trade to be made today, so wood can pitch the sixth or seventh vs. astros tomorrow?
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else feel bad for Eyre?
I really do. WTF happened???
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Natural causes
n/t
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do too. I think he tried within his talent level and skillset, and that's all we can expect....
...and he seemed like a nice guy.
by zevkalman on Aug 5, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh happy day!
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
link?
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 5, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh, it was on ESPN Radio apparently...
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just interviewd Eyre on CSN...
looked bummed and sure looked official.
by cubbot on Aug 5, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I felt so bad
for him. He’s taking it hard.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they'll make it up to him
with a full postseason share and a ring…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can they do that?
It would be nice if that did happen.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 5, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crikey!
Not surprising, but still…wow. Poor Stevie Eyre. I enjoyed his sense of humor at least.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it Eyre
who drove his RV like from Florida to AZ for ST this year? I remember reading something…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was.
Eyre, Sean Gallagher and someone else. Cool story.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a link to that story?
sounds like a cool trip..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have been Howry...damn.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once Lou loves ya, he loves ya
And it’s hard to get out of his doghouse.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think Lou still believes in Howry.
Eyre was apparently dead to him from the git-go.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was this ever explained?
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I know of.
Just Lou being Lou.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No explanation needed.
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be shocked if a trade actually happens
They’ll probably just wait out the cubs until he is released
Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog
by berselius on Aug 5, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cubs don't want him in stl or milw
take a non-entity in exchange from an al team
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I could see him hurting the Cubs...
...with the Brewers. It would set up one of those perfect revenge scenarios.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see him helping the cubs
with the brewers. Seriously…I think Eyre is cooked
Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog
by berselius on Aug 5, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks. Bye, Scottie...
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll go on record...this will come back to hurt us...
Eyre has better “stuff” than Howry at this poing, and he’s a lefty to boot.
I think that Howry is further along on the “done” scale than Eyre.
But we shall see….
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
point, not poing...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only thing i see keeping howry in chicago
is that nobody else wants him either
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa and Boston with 2 LH's in pen already...
...for what its worth…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees for a single a middle infielder
my guess
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Wood use the Moises Alou remedy?
On Cubs.com they have the following quote:
Question” What actually healed the blister?“I can’t tell you,” Wood said with a smile.
by zevkalman on Aug 5, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to leave this one alone
if it wasn’t the Moises remedy lol
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by BigJohnAZ on Aug 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Wood interviewed on the radio the other day...
...and, yeah, he all but admitted that he tried the Moises Approach. He didn’t say it explicitly, but there wasn’t much else he could’ve been referring to.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, whatever works
Heals blisters and jellyfish stings!
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by BigJohnAZ on Aug 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could have been referring to diaper rash cream
I heard that was one of the many remedies suggested to him.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Aug 5, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they keep asking
what healed the “blister”.
But 4 days ago, it was an “open sore”
Those are not the same things
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 5, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
LF Sori
SS Riot
1B Lee
3B ARam
CF Johnson
2B DeRosa
RF Dome
C Blanco
P Harden
Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog
by berselius on Aug 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stros lineup - no Berkman!
Matsui
Tejada
Pence
Lee
Blum
Wigginton
Erstad
Quintero
Rodriguez
Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog
by berselius on Aug 5, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still running from the lightning
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 5, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when lance threw off his necklace, who had to pick it up?
think they sent the bat boy in case he got struck by lightning?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He took it off
after he ran into the dugout the first time.
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good deal.
the ‘stros bullpen sent the bat boy out to pick up all of their stuff during the first delay, i saw that last night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I was thinking... lol
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still cleaning his pants
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 5, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hooray
a game thread I can read in real time!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone else plan their lunches around....
opening pitch?
by cubswynn on Aug 5, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just ate....
so i guess i already did so
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but
nowhere to eat and watch around here. I’ll be back around two and I’m counting on you lot to keep me updated.
Ideas are bulletproof.
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 5, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Geo today but
I suppose I’lll still watch it. ;-) Hope they get the win today .
Feel bad for Eyre. Saw the interview and he took it kind of hard. They said he was well liked in the club house.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 5, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eyre is a real good guy
I really hate to see him go. He may not be the best pitcher in the world, but he is a real good guy.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard Eyre talk
Now I feel awful for him. Not that anything else could be done, but its a damn shame it came to this. Hopefully he will be able to catch on with another team and have success.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't seen the interview
but it really does suck to see him go. He seemed like an outstanding individual and even better teammate. Unfortunately he got caught in a numbers game, although by that logic I think it should be Howry packing his bags. Stevie Eyre will be missed.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 5, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFN Game!!
Perfect 7pm start, not too late! GO CUBS!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Aug 5, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cool, wish I got it
Diehard Cubs Fan Since Age 5!
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm kinda surprised he didn't go at the deadline
and use micah for a few days
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he who?
Ward? No way. Ward will come through BIG for us. Hoff is Not Clutch.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, ok
but why would we use Micah to replace Eyre?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
I just thought he forgot to use the reply button.
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
talking about eyre with hendry now on comcast
channel 723 on directv
by nathew on Aug 5, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Liking Directv better
Now that I discovered they carry CSN here in the Boonies. Len and Bob are on Channel 665.
by NWIowaCubFan on Aug 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the issue of night games
i know that they are limited to the amount but is it also limited to how many they can have per month?
Let go cubs
by cubsfaninkc on Aug 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'he cleared waivers at noon'
‘have seven days to trade him anywhere’
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he cleared waivers???
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hendry said so
look for a deal, my guess to the yankees
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it impossible to offer him a AAA assignment
with the promise of a September call-up?
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's dependent on if he has options
which is doubtful and his major league service time.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
Lou had a senior moment and thought it was Eyre and not Howry that was D-O-N-E.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 5, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
EI outage
here in SD…anybody else?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 5, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for Erye but
who would you rather have on the team? Erye or Marshall?
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 5, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep Eyre, let him coach and cut Lou.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, please.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or not. :)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me there is no question Marshall
Its just a real real sad situation for Eyre. There isn’t a nicer guy in baseball, and I’ll bet there isn’t a single happy person in the clubhouse today.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they win they will be happy tho..
these things are part of the game unfortunately
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm that makes me think
If the team had to choose, who would it be that would go?
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Marshall..
can give you more innings. We didn’t need 3 lefties in the pen and Cotts has been pretty good this year. Hopefully they can find him a home.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have preferred
that the choice be between Eyre and Howry. However, Eyre wasn’t getting to play, and I’m sure he wasn’t enjoying that. Hopefully he’ll get picked up by a team and get to be productive. Just not against us.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is why i'd like him to go to gotham
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the name of Gotham's club anyway?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dark Knights
duh. Of course, they have a big Rivalry with the Metropolis Luthors. Darn celebrity owners.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes. Of course.
I understand the sports coverage in J.J. Jameson’s rag is crap.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa now...
We just hopped universes… Cuh-razy.
by Slim1256 on Aug 5, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CROSSOVER!
In that case, I take the NY Jets over the Chicago Fire, two runs to love.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha...I knew that would throw you guys.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes me wonder what Howry has to do to get in the doghouse
If he hasn’t already messed up enough to get in there, how badly does he need to bomb?
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think with Eyre gone
the resident of the doghouse is now one Bob Howry.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Howry will still get to pitch, and Lou said the other day he still thinks Howry could close if needed. The doghouse is only Jason Marquis right now.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's tough for marquis to be in the doghouse
when he gets to pitch every fifth day. he’s more the guy lou watches with his hands covering his eyes.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always laugh at Lou when Marquis pitches
He walks around just waiting for Marquis to mess up. Lou ages about 2 months every Marquis start.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think lou just wakes up grumpy on those days.
hell, i wake up grumpy most days marquis starts.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks for two in a row... next!
Chicago Cubs Baseball is on the Air! From Wrigley Field in Chicago….
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Aug 5, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any place more beautiful
Than Wrigley Field, on a sunny August day, during the singing of the national anthem?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Aug 5, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just stay sunny!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless, the Cubs are up by 5 runs
And it’s after the 5th inning.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Aug 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrigley Field, on a warm October evening, during the singing of the national anthem?
Waste no tears on me. I didn't come along too early. I was right on time. - Buck O'Neil
by gewurztraminer on Aug 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might of got me there.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Aug 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the Cubs now coming out to
Stronger by Kanye?
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that would be sick
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we did get stronger with the DFA of Eyre
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Aug 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
got a screenshot off a youtube video
...which won’t be there much longer, but here is the result:
now i just need the reed and d.lee one.
by nathew on Aug 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
priceless
Waste no tears on me. I didn't come along too early. I was right on time. - Buck O'Neil
by gewurztraminer on Aug 5, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Die Hard Crew Fan Here
Great win guys. Harden proves he’s human, and then the team responds with a great comeback.
Cubs looking powerhouse strong.
Meanwhile, I’ve got “leadership” from Prince.
Enjoy the ride neighbors.
Again is good
by Lake County on Aug 5, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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