Eyre DFA'd
by thegangler on Aug 5, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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PrintI actually feel bad for the guy. Seems like once you're in Lou's doghouse, getting out is tough. Good luck to him wherever he ends up - i'm sure he can help someone out down the stretch.
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Is it ridiculous
that I wish it had been Howry? Well, its true.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
If you listen to Lou carefully he tells it right off
There is no dog house per se…..that is a load of crap. There is being a professional (meaning what is your approach to the game) and then there is performance…..he says productive…....
Simple stuff….either contribute and be a professional or find a new place…...he gives you chances and you had better perform——for the TEAM’s SAKE….
Now if you are struggling….be right make the right approach that is being a professional and fix it…its after all the BIG LEAGUES.
I feel sorry the Cubs lost what was a capable LHP….now we are down to Cotts and Marshall.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
No
I completely agree with you reddevil. I mean, perhaps it’s the case that because we didn’t see Eyre pitch enough we didn’t see how bad he was. Maybe if Lou was tossing him out there in inappropriate situations like he does with Howry, we would want him DFAed more… I don’t know..
call me un-informed
but what, exactly, did Stevie Eyre do to get into Lou’s dog house?
He hasn’t been exactly lights out the last 1 + yrs, but he seemed to be coming around a little better over the last 1 mo or so, and really was not given a chance by Lou.. Personally, if Eyre had any semblence of his form when the Cubs first got him, which is still a possibility, this may be a huge mistake down the stretch.
I...
honestly don’t know myself. Eyre seemed to suggest it was from the 1st half of last season though. Can anyone get his numbers pre-all star break of the 2007 season?
What did Eyre do?
He started 2007 poorly. Name one player who started 2007 poorly whom Lou trusts. But most people will continue to believe that Lou is always right, because we’re winning.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Aug 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir...
First impressions mean a lot, especially with Piniella. Eyre got off to a HORRENDOUS start last year, and never got out of the doghouse. Being hurt early this year didn’t help his cause either.
I think you have to trust Lou on a move like this.
Eyre has only pitched once in the last month that we, as fans, have seen.
Obviously Lou and his staff have seen a lot more of him in that time and haven’t liked what they’ve seen.
I’m never one to back off from being critical of team decisions, but I just don’t see them throwing away a cheap spare part if they thought they’d get any use out of it.
I think you're right that the club may know more about Eyre's health than we do
but the question was “What did Eyre do to get in Lou’s doghouse,” and the answer is the same for Eyre as it is for many others – make a bad first impression with Lou and then it’s a long wait till your on another team.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Aug 5, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Eyre agrees re: Lou prejudice:
From Yahoo
His streak of scoreless appearances ran from Aug. 16, 2007 to June 13, but he never meshed with manager Lou Piniella after a slow start last season, Piniella’s first with the Cubs.
"I just don’t think Lou ever got over that," a choked up Eyre said. "I have no hard feelings, and I mean that, truly."
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Aug 5, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Never meshed....
You are correct sir. I don’t if anyone heard or remembers that Eyre gave an interview to ESPN 1000 a few months back and one of the first questions they asked was about Lou calling him ‘Stevie Eyre’ last year. He said something along the lines of ‘To be honest, it hurt but I’m not going to dwell on it. I just look at is a reference to the past when I was struggling.’ Then they asked if he ever apologized and again Eyre said something to the affect of, ‘No, he never mentioned anything of it. But I’m fine w/ it. I don’t care what he calls me as long as I go out there and do my job, I won’t have to worry about it.’ He was also went on to talk about how special this team was and about the comradery, yadda yadda yadda. Maybe I’m reading far too into but I think it’s adds some substance to the idea they never meshed. Oh well, a sad story, but the only thing the team and fans can do, is move onwards….Good Luck Scotty.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
well,
I’m glad we’re winning, but I disagree with this move of Lou’s. We’re not all Lou-Zombies. :D
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take a guess...
...that Lou was not in love with how many walks he gave up (and hits per inning). Eyre’s WHIP has been too high (since Piniella has been here) to be a reliable/effective reliever.
If there is one thing Piniella has been very consistant with, it is his dislike for pitchers who don’t throw enouph strikes.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Marshall Big Part of Bullpen
Sean is the 2nd lefty in the pen behind Cotts now. His role in the pen will be really big IF the Cubs should make the playoffs. I find bullpens are more important in postseason play than regular season play.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
Hope he lands on his feet too...
He always seemed like a good guy on the Radio, and it’s too bad he won’t be able to ride the rest of this season out.
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I always liked the guy
I wish the best for him, but why him and not Howry?
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
As I said in the other thread...
...Cubs will regret this, perhaps even this year.
A veteran lefty will be picked up quickly by other teams. He can still be effective.
We will likely face him at some point in the postseason.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
I'd love to face him if he makes an AL roster....
by Fukudome is my Homie on Aug 5, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I fear it will be an NL playoff contender....Milwaukee or St. Louis?
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
hopefully
the Yankees. Or maybe the BlueJays. Someone who may not contend, so we don’t even have to see him in the WS.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
What, Farnsworth and Hawkins weren't ENOUGH of the ex-Cub factor?
Hopefully the Yanks have learned that if you can’t pitch for the Cubs, you can’t pitch in the AL…
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
A Big Mistake
And I admit I’m biased, because I personally like the guy. Nonetheless, he’s a true situational lefty that always comes in handy down the stretch. He had a bad first part of 2007, but was great the second half, and started out rough this year, but he WAS injured. It will be a real shame if the Cubs make it to the Series this year and he’s not a part of it. Good luck Scott. You’re a cool guy and a good pitcher.
Santo Forever!
Feel bad for him.
He broke up in the interview he did (was shown on Comcast pre-game). Hopefully he can do well wherever he lands.
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
I feel as bad as I can feel for a guy making ~$4 million per year...
The competitor and teammate in me definitely feels bad. But he’ll be okay. He may even catch on with another contender anyway.
But he did seem to thoroughly enjoy being in Chicago. From that perspective, I agree and feel for him.
I felt so bad for him.
I’m sure he will be missed in the club house.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
This will sound stupid....
... but I hope he catches on with either Philly or Houston, because I’ll be seeing those teams at Wrigley at the end of the month. I’d like to stand and give him some applause as a thank you.
Santo Forever!
Doesn't he have a brother
that is a member of the Astros? Seems I remember something about him and his bro playing catch together before a game. That would be cool for him. Might be the wrong brothers though.
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
Willie Eyre....
... Scott’s brother, pitched for the Twins in 2006 and Rangers in 2007 and had an ERA over 5.00 both years. He’s out of baseball this year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Ah
wrong Texas team, right thought! Atleast he will still have a job in the bigs.
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
His press conference
made me alittle sad to see him go.
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Next up Marquis???
With Chabba getting hurt I wonder if NYY comes a calling….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
there actually could be takers for a starter,
but for the two starts we’ll need him…
...and maybe two more….
i’d keep him til the offseason
Marquis is owed $9 million in 2009
....and he has held his end of the bargain up in 2008. He’s not going anywhere folks.
Scott Eyre had nothing to contribute, so it was the right move
Eyre is not 100% and/or simply has little in the tank. This move also says to me that the Cubs have legitimate faith in Sean Marshall and Neal Cotts. Hard to quibble with the move. Playoff contending teams in major league baseball are a case of Darwinism at work…only the strong and those who can contribute are going to stay. To me this is enormously refreshing after watching years of Cubbie futility complete with it’s national branding campaign of the Luvable Losers.
I am glad to hear Lou has faith in Marshall
When do we get to see him pitch again ? Especially in long relief which is where he should be
used. Lou let Marmol GIVE UP FIVE RUNS in the 9th before FINALLY letting Marshall pitch
the last game before the AS break.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I couldn't agree more.
Sure, we all feel bad that Eyre will miss out on the rest of what may be a special season, but you’re spot on. We cannot forget this is a business. For too long, the Cubs have been long on sentiment and short on smarts. If anyone can remember a meaningful Scott Eyre appearance in the last two years, you’ve a better memory than me. Being a good guy gets you no rings…but that being said, good luck, Stevie!
"And then, just as nonchalantly as though Horace Tarbox had been Mr. Beef the butcher or Mr. Hat the haberdasher, life reached in, seized him, handled him, stretched him, and unrolled him like a piece of Irish lace on a Saturday-afternoon bargain-counter." -F. Scott Fitzgerald
I thought of one right off the bat-
He got Bonds out last year in the 8th of a tight game, and I’m pretty sure the bases were loaded. There were at least 2 men on. He was put in strictly for Bonds (who was a PH) and he got it done, also I believe this was the day before Bonds hit 752/753 at Wrigley. I mean yeah, it may have not been the prettiest out for us ever as Bonds crushed a liner right to Soriano, but still it was meaningful for sure.
by Canseco's Roid Party on Aug 6, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I liked Eyre.
As noted above, he got off to a bad start in ‘07 and never quite got out of Lou’s doghouse. I thought he pitched well the 2nd half of last year and most of this year till he got hurt.
I wish him the best.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
You too with the doghouse theory
Rubbish. Scott Eyre was either not healthy and couldn’t get major league hitters out, hence why he wasn’t been utilized. And I think it is quite clear that the Cubs were trying like mad to trade him before the 3:00 PM deadline on July 31st. He likely didn’t get work leading up to the deadline because Hendry didn’t want the world to see how injured and/or lousy he really was. It was no coincidence that Eyre’s first action in a long time came literally minutes after the trade deadline passed.
Just once it would be refreshing to see the majority of members on this blog give Lou Piniella a measure of credit for knowing what he is doing.
We'll see
I think Eyre could be useful, but I agree with what you said above regarding Cotts and Marshall. Lou/Jim have way more faith in those two than they did in Eyre, so it was time for him to go.
Several teams can use a guy like him (Boston, Yankees, Milwaukee, St Louis, even maybe the Dodgers and D-Backs). Hopefully he lands on his feet.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Aug 5, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
ANYWAY.............
...... it’s too bad Eyre got into Piniella’s doghouse, because they’ll need him down the stretch. He’ll end up with a contender, no question, because the guy can still pitch. They made a mistake here.
Santo Forever!
There's a big sign in "Lou's Doghouse" that reads...
No strikes, walks = no appearances
Strikes, no walks = appearances
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Um hits and more hits appearences ?
Re Howry.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprisingly, I checked...
Howry = 1.31 WHIP
Eyre = 1.68 WHIP
I’m guessing that Lou thinks Howry can work out of his funk and that Eyre has limited value (he can’t get righties out at all, they’re over .300 against him, and his last three appearance have been abysmal) with Cotts and Marshall on the team.
It was a case of musical chairs, and Eyre didn’t have a chair.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
This was a bit surprising to me- but I guess it doesn't show Howry's
HRIP which is probably like 1. At least recently it has been.
by Canseco's Roid Party on Aug 6, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
11 HR in 67 innings...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Did you even bother to read this thread?
There must be something to this “doghouse theory” – because Eyre himself seems to believe in it. As DGU posted above, according to this AP/Yahoo article:
"I just don’t think Lou ever got over [my slow ‘07 start]," a choked up Eyre said. "I have no hard feelings, and I mean that, truly."
And, on the pregame radio interview today, Lou himself gave no indication that an injury was the issue. He basically said he had a limited number of roster spots and someone had to go. Now, obviously Lou didn’t like Eyre as a pitcher, but whether that was justifiable based on his very limited performances this year, is, at the very least, questionable.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
You hate Lou Piniella, I get it...
Scott Eyre sucked in 2007 and 2008. And he clearly is less than 100%. But if you want to claim Lou Piniella screwed him over then fine. You’re hopeless.
You hate Scott Eyre, I get it..
GO AWAY
Hopeless? Hopeless is you gaining respect on this board…..........
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Plus why are you hear again?
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/7/23/577268/didn-t-we-already-see-this#7573781
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
wow.
you can’t read, and it’s other people who are hopeless?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong. I don't hate Lou Piniella.
I’m glad he’s here and admire what he’s done for this team. That doesn’t mean every single one of his decisions are beyond reproach.
And you’re a pretty hopeless case yourself, BlueMike – either too lazy or too insecure to bother reading other people’s posts with an open mind or seeing the complexity in any issue.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Remember Eyre was one of Dusty's boys
That plus his very goofy nature is unlikely to endeared him to Lou..
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
He’s not worth very much. An AL team might take him; the Red Sox, Yankees, Rays and even his original team, the White Sox, might be interested.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yeah, I was just thinkin' of the Dusty connection.
I hope Scott is able to find a place on any of those teams. As long as he doesn’t come back to avenge himself with the Brewers or Cards, I wish him well. Of course, I suppose he could come back to avenge himself in the postseason with an AL team, but let’s cross that bridge when we come to it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Don't be surprised to see...
...Eyre do well with someone (at least for a while), because a change of venue often help a guy like him.
You can call it Piniella’s doghouse, but Lou has been extremely up front since day one, that first and foremost, he wants his pitchers to limit free passes.
Sometimes you just don’t have the right environment for a guy to succeed, and at the end of 06, Eyre was a strong backer of Baker, and admitted that it was because Dusty was easy going. Right or wrong, Piniella has never been one to coddle pitchers when they can’t get the ball over the plate. I can recall reading his lips on several occasions when a pitcher has walked guys with a big lead (basically said – throw fucking strikes we are up by 4 runs) and that is just the way he is.
Eyre seemed like a good dude and I hope he bounces back.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Eyre did not deserve this
Howry was pitching MUCH worse yet even today Lou left him in a crucial situation.
Lou defintatly DOES have a doghouse and while Eyre struggled he was clearly better than Howry. He was exeptionally good person and I saw him to some very nice things for a disabled kid at the convention one year. That does not make him a good pitcher
and while I have not yet had time to go through the game threads today how would
it not have been better to use Eyre than once again OVERUSE Marmol in a non save
situation. Lou is a a VERY bad manager re the bullpen. He is lucky he has a lot of good
pitchers to work with but as with Howry today it bites him in the ass a lot.
I wish Eyre a lot of luck and I am sure he will land somewhere that a manager
knows how to use him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Not clearly better recently, see above....
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
And for the record, I like Eyre, but someone had to go with the Shark on fire...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Yes, because simplicity and hate...
...speaks to an infinitely better “baseball acumen” than taking a balanced, objective view of a player. According to this article in today’s Trib:
From August 2007 through June 2008 [Eyre] set a franchise record with 33 straight scoreless appearances.
Oh, yeah – he sucked alright.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
that's a statistic, right?
33 straight scoreless appearances. That’s a statistic. It’s measured with numbers.
Don’t bother him with that sabermahoohaw stuff. BlueMike goes with his gut.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 6, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
For crying out loud...
Eyre can still get guys out every now and then… Howry can’t
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
Howry can too get guys out...
right after serving up spirit-crushing, tape-measure home runs! :-)
"And then, just as nonchalantly as though Horace Tarbox had been Mr. Beef the butcher or Mr. Hat the haberdasher, life reached in, seized him, handled him, stretched him, and unrolled him like a piece of Irish lace on a Saturday-afternoon bargain-counter." -F. Scott Fitzgerald
Howry pitches better than his results...
...because he has given up 11 hrs in 51 innings. His WHIP is less than Eyre’s, see above.
Lou went with the numbers on this one, because he already has two lefties.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Of course....
...but in the other thread I looked up his numbers compared to say, Leiber, and they are almost identical.
His WHIP is .3 less than Eyre. I’m guessing Lou looked at the numbers and made the best call. You can’t keep everyone.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
And, yes, the homers are dramatic and come at bad times...
...because of where he is pitching. I think at this point he needs to be in mop up duty with the Shark in the 7th. If Samardjzia struggles, might have to use Marshall or Cotts.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Howry has given up
67 hits in 54.1 innings. I’m sorry but that is just too many in my book. They may not be scoring all their runs off him via the long ball, but they are scoring off him…a lot! His best month was May, and he’s getting worse. 5 of those 11 homers have come since July 4. Not a defense of Eyre, I’m just sayin’...
"And then, just as nonchalantly as though Horace Tarbox had been Mr. Beef the butcher or Mr. Hat the haberdasher, life reached in, seized him, handled him, stretched him, and unrolled him like a piece of Irish lace on a Saturday-afternoon bargain-counter." -F. Scott Fitzgerald
Numbers don't back you up...
Eyre – 15 hits in 11.1 = 75 in 55 innings projected, 1.68 WHIP, been injured
Leiber – 56 hits in 44.2 = 62 in 55 innings projected, 1.37 WHIP, been injured
Howry – 67 hits in 54.1 innings, 1.38 WHIP, not injured (that we know of)
Looks to me like they DFA’d the right guy. A tossup between Howry and Leiber, but Howry clearly has better stuff right now.
Also, for comparison….
Marquis – 125 hits in 111 innings = 62 hits in 55 innings, 1.45 WHIP
You could potentially throw Marquis into the mix, except for the contract issues. It’ll be a race between Howry, Leiber and Marquis for the Lou doghouse now…
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
he got four guys out
today.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
This is Felix Pie all over again....
A handful of Cubbie fans who think Lou is a tired old man who has no basis making evaluative judgment on players. “Scott Eyre is a swell guy and attends charity functions, so gee wilikers we MUST keep him on the roster even though he can’t get major league hitters out!!!!” “Felix Pie didn’t get a chance to prove himself and big bad Lou screwed him over!!!!” And the other funny thing about this sickening phenomenon is that the doorknobs don’t think Jim Hendry, Larry Rothschild, and others within the organization have input on these decisions.
So tell me, does this mean that Ronny Cedeno is now on Lou Piniella’s “doghouse” because the manager pays him marginal attention??
Pass the barf bag.
I agree with you...
...but you don’t have to be such a jerk about it….
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
And he wonders why people have such a negative reaction towards his comments?
It’s not necessarily what he says; it’s HOW he says it! (Most of the time.)
This is the biggest reason he is not persuasive in his arguments.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, he does.
Just like the sun has to rise in the east.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
you read this board
about as well as Karl Rove read the electorate in 2006.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
All I can say is...
...your interpretation of other posters’ comments here is just as warped and inaccurate as many of your views on baseball itself.
FAILNanika Ga Okoru!
Sad to see a nice guy that leave, but....
I was wondering if Eyre was the new clubhouse manager, seeing how Lou didn’t use him after coming back off the DL. Having said that , I cringe every time Howry is brought into a game.
he probably won't come in today.
But of course, today we start Marquis. :P
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 6, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Stoney's perspective on Scott Eyre
I know this name isn’t very popular around here, but, on his 8/5 Boers and Bernstein podcast, Steve Stone divulged some intriguing, if maddeningly vague, insight on the Scotty Eyre situation. Stone said:
“I think that there were some problems with Mr. Eyre on one of the flights as far as a delayed flight and maybe a little bit…ah…things got out of hand a touch and he was escorted to the back of the plane…I know he was most unhappy he wasn’t activated…”
He didn’t provide much context for this statement and, when asked to clarify, Stone said, “I can’t really get into it specifically.” I would dare to speculate that he was referring to a recent flight and that perhaps Eyre confronted Lou on the plane. Anyway, take it for what it’s worth.
Later in the same podcast, Stone lamely says, “They’re letting a lefthander go, leaving only one lefthander in their bullpen.”
FAILNanika Ga Okoru!
This is one of the many...
...reasons A LOT of baseball people can’t stand Steve Stone. Some things are meant to stay in house, and if this did happen, it certainly appears the Cub’s beat writers would have known about it and they let it go.
There are times to report this stuff and times to let it go, and Stone is only concerned about making himself look like some prophet. Bottom line, Eyre did not perform very well overall for Piniella, and Lou didn’t trust the guy to get any better.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Yeah, he seemed to be struggling...
...to decide just how many details of the incident he should divulge. When all was said and done, he didn’t really reveal enough to make his little anecdote particularly meaningful.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
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