Sixty-Nine: Cubs 11, Astros 4
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 5:41 PM CDT
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What, you thought that was some kind of sex reference? On this site?
Sixty-nine is, of course, the number of wins the Cubs have after today's outstanding 11-4 Cubs win over the Astros, the last of twenty games in twenty consecutive days following the All-Star break, during which the Cubs went 12-8 and increased their lead in the NL Central by half a game over the Brewers. If you check the "Best Starts Since 1900" box I've been keeping on the right sidebar for a couple of months, you'll see that only twelve Cub teams in the last 108 years have played 115 games with a better record than this year's 69-46 version.
That includes six pennant winners and the ill-fated 1969 team, which had just about reached its highest point right at about this time of the season, the first week of August. The 1908 team and the 1984 team didn't get hot till after the 115th game -- many of you probably remember the four-game sweep of the Mets at Wrigley Field in mid-August 1984, during which Keith Moreland and Ed Lynch got into a bench-clearing brawl after Lynch, then a Mets pitcher, brushed Moreland back.
The 2008 Cubs are creating their own history, of course, and today they just kept on rolling. That sounds clichéd, but it really isn't -- every day, there's a new way of winning, and new heroes, proving today once again that this is a complete team, not just one or two superstars carrying a club (although Alfonso Soriano can certainly do that, and has been leading the charge since he returned from the DL).
Today, after Jason Marquis likely got all the Marquis-haters here riled up after he allowed the Astros four runs after two were out and no one on in the third, capped by a Carlos Lee three-run jack (man, does that guy love hitting in Wrigley or what). The key at-bat in that inning was Hunter Pence drawing a walk after Marquis had him down 0-2. The Lee HR put the Astros up 4-1, and the Cubs looked a bit flat in the first two innings except for the back-to-back doubles by Jim Edmonds and Mark DeRosa that had given the Cubs a brief 1-0 lead.
They followed that top of the third with perhaps their best inning of the year -- scoring eight runs after two were out; with those two out and Ryan Theriot on with a single, Aramis Ramirez and Edmonds drew walks. Whoever posted in the pregame thread that if the Cubs waited Brandon Backe out, that would be the key to winning, had it exactly right. After those two walks, DeRo hit his fourth career grand slam, giving him five RBI for the day and 63 for the season, leaving him only eleven short of his career high set in 2006 with the Rangers. After another double by Kosuke Fukudome, the Astros intentionally walked Geovany Soto, only to have Marquis hit yet another double, driving in a run, and Soriano capped it off with his 21st homer.
Since returning from the DL, Soriano is hitting .348/.375/.697 with 6 HR and 14 RBI, and the Cubs have gone 11-4 in the 15 games.
Carrying a team? I'd say so. But again, Soriano's blow today only put the game away; the Cubs added two more in the next inning by drawing a couple more walks. They had six in all off Backe, who was clearly asked to take one for the team today; he allowed eleven earned runs and threw 99 pitches to get ten outs and his ERA went from 4.72 to 5.35.
Meanwhile, after allowing the Lee HR, Marquis settled down and allowed only two hits; the bases got loaded in the fourth on a strange ground ball where the Cubs IF didn't quite seem to know where to throw the ball -- there were two out and it seemed as if DeRosa forgot that; he could have just thrown to first but tried for a force play that failed. It didn't matter as Hunter Pence flied to center to end the inning. After that Marquis retired seven of the next eight hitters and might have had enough to finish the seventh inning had Aramis Ramirez not pulled Derrek Lee off first base on a ground ball by probably the slowest player on the field, Humberto Quintero. When Marquis left in favor of Sean Marshall he got probably the warmest applause he's had in his year and two-thirds as a Cub.
Say what you want about Marquis -- he does exactly what he's asked to do, eat up innings and keep his team in the game. He has now thrown at least six innings in nine of his last ten starts, and that probably makes him the best fifth starter in the league. That's a bold statement and I don't have time to make statistical comparisons with other NL fifth starters, so if anyone here wants to do that, go right ahead.
Today, BCB reader Rudey was the one who emailed me first and bought my extra tickets. Nice to meet you and hope you enjoyed the game.
The Brewers beat the Reds this afternoon so the Cubs' lead in the Central stays at five games; the Cardinals will play the Dodgers tonight and tomorrow afternoon and after last night's rain-delayed, extra-inning game in St. Louis, the best thing we can hope for is two more games just like that one, so that the Cardinals arrive in Chicago for Friday's game exhausted, while the Cubs enjoy their well-earned off day tomorrow.
You enjoy it too. Onward in this remarkable, wonderful season.
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holla first
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 6, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that is my first first
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
congratulations
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what Madonna said
it turned out to be a lie.
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 6, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People: What happened to Madonna's face?
Answer: She’s amazed by the Cubsmagical season
You oughta stop playing God, case you're not good at it and the position is taken.
by cubbie-swagger on Aug 7, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the more i think about it...
Marquis, if you evaluate him as a fifth starter, is just fine in the rotation. And looking at the rotation, 1-5, it has to be the best in the league.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree .. .
he has his moments where he just drives us nuts but he has pitched ok & kept us in most games. Today he was one bad pitch away from another QS. Also, Jedmonds misplayed that ball in that inning too which contributed. Can’t have defensive lapses when Marquis is on the mound.
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
by Basman on Aug 6, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jedmonds took a lot of crap for that in the game thread
and I would therefore like to point out that even if he had his sunglasses on and/or didn’t lose it in the sun, it was still a very tough play. Yes, Jim Edmonds probably should have caught it, but a lot of CFs probably wouldn’t have.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Aug 6, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano also misplayed a ball today.
After the HR, he’s forgiven.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the way this team is playing
everyone is forgiven for their past miscues.
Well, everyone except the Bob, who at this point in the season is lucky to still be a Cub. I don’t knock players, but Howry is the only player on this team I do not have confidence in when in the game.
That’s my opinion and I hope Howry can change it soon.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 6, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's pretty much
our Soriano koan, isn’t it?
by Emelie on Aug 7, 2008 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie catches that ball easily...
Edmonds has clearly lost a few steps. I just hope it doesn’t hurt the team down the road.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 6, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First !! - damn not !!
Heh heh … he said 69
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
by Basman on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Marquis continues to do the job...
Hard to quibble with his performance level in 2008. He has taken the ball every 5th day and generally speaking has kept his team in ballgames and logged innings.
Mark DeRosa shows once again why he is the most underrated ballplayer on the Cubs. All he does is selflessly produce and serve whatever role is asked of him.
On a different note, I wonder if Jon Lieber is going to return from the DL or be banished there all season with his phantom injury. If he does come back, maybe the Cubs DFA Bob Howry.
by MDBNIU on Aug 6, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Howry will be DFA
when/if Lieber comes back. It just seems like they have much different roles, so only if Lou finds someone to fill Howry’s role (it’s not the long-man role), then maybe.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis serves a purpose on this team
He won’t be on the playoff roster, so no need to worry about using him too much in the regular season. He eats up innings and keeps the team in the game, even though it is frustrating and annoying at times.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Aug 6, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see a few more agree
He’s the 5th starter. Rarely does he ever get rocked and knocked out early. He’s good for 5 to 7 innings, 4 to 6 runs plus he never gets hurt. A lot of teams will take that from the bottom of the rotation.
I know a lot of people wonder about Hendry trying to trade him. I’m not so sure he really tried that much. Of course he listened but I don’t think he actively went out looking to move him.
by rlpete on Aug 6, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis is good at what he is
which is an innings-chewing #5 who throws mostly quality starts. He will never be Cy Young and that’s fine. With a staff this loaded, I think he just suffers by comparison sometimes. I have no problem with him as long as we give him run support. Doesn’t need to be as many runs as we gave him today every time, but if it was, that wouldn’t hurt my feelings either.
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
amen
i’ve been preaching this message for the last two months now…...leave marquis alone, he is an above average 5th starter
and lets not forget, the guy can pinch run when needed and swings a 2008 andruw jones type bat….don’t overlook that part of his “game”
by cubswynn on Aug 6, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As we've gone over before....
....Lou likes Howry because he throws strikes and competes. If possible, Leiber will be kept on “long rehab” until Sept. 1st if there is no room on the roster.
I believe Lou believes that Howry can work through his issues. Although a few more bad outings, and that might change. So far, Howry’s issues have not significanly cost the Cubs…but that could change…
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 6, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing strikes and competing.
Wonderful. He keeps blowing games and making blowouts close. I wouldn’t use him unless the Cubs are down by 8 runs or more.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 7, 2008 4:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howry Will Be Important
I haven’t been happy with his performance this season. The Cubs should make the playoffs without his playing a major role. In the playoffs, though, the Cubs are going to need as many dependable arms as possible. I would feel better about the Cubs’ chances in postseason, if Howry was pitching better. He could still turn things around. As crazy as postseason baseball is, he could prove to the Cubs’ bullpen hero.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Aug 7, 2008 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lieber must be in Lou's doghouse.
Obviously.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Aug 6, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 6, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a couple of things I noticed in the recap Al..
Carlos Lee hit a 3 run homer, Berkman and an RBI single right before Lee came up. And Derrek Lee was the one that threw to 2nd on that play that loaded the bases in the 4th, not DeRo. No big deal just thought I’d throw those out there.
More importantly 69 wins, 5 games up, and best record in the NL. Feeling good heading into a much deserved day off
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right about the Lee HR.
I’ll fix that. Thanks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he is also right
about the throw to 2nd by Lee (not DeRo), who was moving to his right on the play, making the throw to second (where Theriot was not covering) the easier play.
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Theriot snoozed on covering the bag. Luckily, it didn’t hurt them.
by salparadise23 on Aug 6, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was confusing to the players...
... and to us too. I couldn’t quite tell who was covering.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who's ever read Al
wouldn’t think 69 was a sex reference at all, unless they were going to say “You’re all Bill Hands tonight” or “I’m getting pretty Randy, Hundley.”
Sometimes I’m glad I was too young to remember the summer of ‘69. Except the Bryan Adams song. I remember that.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Aug 6, 2008 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
69, Dude!
The year of my birth, the current win total, and now thanks to you that Bryan Adams song ricocheting around the cavernous space bewteen my ears. Many thanks… :-)
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or this 69
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 6, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The updated lineups for tomorrow's Cubs vs. Spiders game from Gordon's twitter page.
CF Tommy Dowd
SS Harry Lochhead
2B Joe Quinn
RF Dick Harley
C Joe Sugden
1B Tommy Tucker
LF Sport McAllister
3B Suter Sullivan
P Crazy Schmit
LF Soriano
CF Johnson
3B DeRosa
1B Ward
C Blanco
RF Fukudome
SS Cedeno
2B Fontenot
P Howry!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the 1899 Spiders vs. Howry?
I’d set the Cubs as a -1/2 favorite.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a day game too....1:20pm start time!
The rumor is Al is doing TMOTTBG.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"TMOTTBG"?
OK, I’m stumped.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take Me Out To The Ballgame...
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. Thanks!
And no, I won’t be!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to hear that.
It’ll be a helluva game. SWL, you good to sing?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al is just playing coy...
“Deep Sheep” tells me he is going to do it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard that too but only after drinking:
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 6, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
“Deep Sheep”? I don’t think I want to know.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going to wear your BCB shirt when you sing it Al?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the spring training '08 hat?
seems like they’re winning when it’s worn…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ain't singin'!
But I would wear the BCB shirt and spring training cap.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all look forward to tomorrow and your inspired rendition!
Let beat those Spiders!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ordered my BCB Monday.....
Im looking fwd to getting it!
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 6, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got mine today.
they go great with cubs wins.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for buying the shirts!
We’ve gotten over $500 to Project 3000 and I should be getting another check to send soon.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 7, 2008 4:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, will this game be at
the West Side Grounds or Wrigley? And will the Cubs have some Orphans throwbacks on?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's in Wrigley...
and yes! Cubs will don Orphans unis for the game!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
outstanding.
can’t wait to see Crazy Schmit pitch. Hopefully the Cubs will get into that bullpen of Sport McAllister and Highball Wilson.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McAllister probably won't pitch out of the bullpen tomorrow...
he’s playing LF and only pitches when their up by more than 3 runs.
Wilson is a rookie, and Quinn most likely won’t throw him in a game unless it’s just to get 1 out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points.
i could see Kid Carsey making an appearance, but if i were the Cubs, I’d be studying reports on Harry Colliflower. Seems like they can take some pitches off him, since he has 41 walks and 8 strikeouts on the year.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
will we get a play-by-play?
looking to see how kerosene does as a starter
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could someone explain this to me?
I know who the spiders were, but what is this game you speak of?
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
by Ross on Aug 6, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game being played tomorrow silly!
Just look for the pre-game thread about 11:00 am!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen...
I have something to do at work!
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 6, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo's red-hot as a 2B. Why move him to 3B???
Don’t mess with success!!!!!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just giving Ramirez a day off
he’s played a lot recently.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Cleveland Spiders.
You could probably win with this lineup:
DWard C
Marquis 3B
Zambrano 1B
Cedeno CF
Fontenot SS
Lilly LF
Blanco RF
DeRosa 3B
Howry P
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see that game just to see Hank White in RF....
...and two guys playing third base! ;)
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dero needs a day off
go with marshall at third
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the new spelling of Bob's name?
HOWRY!
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 6, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ossee Schreckengost and Highball Wilson
are offended they arent in the starting line up.
over/under on number of errors committed by the spiders: 3.5
How did Neifi Perez, Kevin Orie, and Jeremi Gonzalez get Rookie of the League votes in 1997?
by bgsiggy on Aug 6, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recorded the game
today because I had to go shopping so I will watch it later. Glad to see Marquis came through to get the win today. Glad I wasn’t in the first pitch thread as I hear it was pretty ugly in there. DeRo was the hero today. Love how they share the hitting on this team. It’s great to be a Cub’s fan.
I think I will enjoy the day off tomorrow. Get ready to watch some Bear’s football tomorrow night.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 6, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't too bad Sue..
Mainly a lot of Marquis hate is all. Really didn’t see any trolls around. That must have been an important shopping trip to miss a Cubs game..:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 6, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we weren't losing
for long enough, that’s all. Plus, you know, being 23 games over, it’s hard for them to come out and say “same old cubs, just like 2006!”
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 6, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL shopping trips are important. ;-)
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 7, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thx Al again
was a great game and really appreciate you helping me get there. I’m now 7-0 on the season and every game seems to be more of a blowout then the last.
Was awesome to see my favorite Cub hit a GS.
Thx again Al, your the man!
THE WAVE
to remind us how fans of other teams can win games, despite not caring about whats going on at all. -Rudey
DAMN YOU BASEBALL GODS..
by Rudey on Aug 6, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Al, the next game box says FSN Houston
by mikeinseattle on Aug 6, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll fix it.
Should have changed it to “FSN Midwest”. Thanks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watching baseball tonight
and according to Eric Young, if DeRosa had been in the dugout during his grand slam, DeRo would have said, “Shucky-ducky, quack quack.”
I have no idea what that means.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s about on par with everything they say on BBTN.
by rea5661 on Aug 6, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to say this as often as possible now...
it shall be my new “catch-phrase”!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shucky-ducky, quack quack.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 6, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you.
i was just throwing it out there, hoping someone would adopt it.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 6, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or use it as a replacement for "egg yolk".
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 6, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good idea
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 6, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Young is hard to watch on BBTN
and I mean by what he says. Not just tonight, he’s usually not that bad, but he’s got to go.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Aug 6, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss the good old days
Back when we had Krukie, Steve Phillips, and Harry Reynolds at the same table…I’m surprised Karl Ravech never shot himself.
by rea5661 on Aug 6, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Harold Reynolds...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 6, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want the glory days of Ravech, Reynolds, Gammons
That was fantastic. All three of those guys were knowledgeable, interesting, and they worked well together.
by drewm88 on Aug 6, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Backe
Did Backe get all up in Cooper’s face when he finally yanked Backe? I had the sound turned down and the stream was pretty bad.
We're Cub fans. May God have mercy on our souls.
by monkey knife fight on Aug 6, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know....but your user name rules!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or you could join
The National Monkey Knife Fighting Association
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 6, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Look at those poor saps back on land with their laws and ethics! They’ll never know the simple joys of a monkey knife fight.”
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There you go
That’s where I got my name.
We're Cub fans. May God have mercy on our souls.
by monkey knife fight on Aug 6, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It's a Madhouse...a Madhouse!!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS JUST IN:
SWL declared winner of the Internets.
by nathew on Aug 7, 2008 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really "in Cooper's face",
but definitely talking with him demonstratively as they both left the mound. He seemed to be saying something like “It’s not all my fault”, trying to say the ump squeezed him.
Backe threw his glove and hat down in the dugout, but no confrontations—everyone just gave him some space to vent.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was more conciliatory
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Ah, I see. Thanks for the lowdown.
We're Cub fans. May God have mercy on our souls.
by monkey knife fight on Aug 6, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you have this game recorded
rewind it back to the sori homerun….it was priceless
bb says as backe is throwing the pitch – “and this is why you don’t send geovany soto home, on what could have been a close play”
almost immediately after bb stops talking sori hits it out, puts his head down and starts clapping, while backe throws his hands up in disgust
it was a priceless moment, i encourage all to watch it if you can
by cubswynn on Aug 6, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look forward to seeing
that now. Probably will watch it tomorrow.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 6, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember in the Houston series in the Juice Box recently
Backe was called out on strikes, I think, and he pitched (pardon the pun) a fit with the home plate umpire as he walked back to the dugout, and I think BB noted that was not likely going to result in Backe getting benefit of any close calls the rest of the game. Makes me think the guy (Backe) is a bit of a hot head when things don’t go his way.
by DWChaney on Aug 7, 2008 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that's right.
He was literally “hopping mad” after a called third strike. Yup, payback’s a bitch.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 7, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, but
it seems to me that Marq is getting a little too much praise here. Yes, he did eat up innings (his primary job), but everyone keeps crediting him with keeping us in the game. If he’s up by one, gives up 4 runs and then his team scores 11, I’m pretty sure that’s the offense keeping the team in the game, not Marquis. I’m not contradicting the opinion that he’s still pretty good for a #5 guy, which I agree with. Just I think he’s getting more credit than he deserves.
by rea5661 on Aug 6, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, he didn't allow any
more runs so he did pitch well enough to stop them from scoring any more after that one inning. So like it or not you have to credit him with keeping them from scoring more runs. He did his job and got the win.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 6, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a #5
they are not expected to go out and get 15 wins.
got the W today and nobody on the team would have won his last game…they scored 0 runs.
if he gets through 6/7 innings he has done his job,,regardless of how many runs he gives up.
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 6, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also had behind him
the shakiest defense the Cubs have played since before the ASB. Sori misjudged one, Dome almost did, Edmonds lost a ball in the sun, DLee made an ill-advised throw to 2B (Marquis covered first in plenty of time), Rami committed an error, DeRo and Cedeno were slow on a DP ball, etc.
Jason needs pristine defense behind him, and he didn’t get it today, but - like Al said - he kept battling and kept the team in the game for 6-1/3 innings.
He also drove in one run.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our defense did struggle today..
luckily the offense decided to put up an 11 spot to help matters out.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on Theriot?
I’m assuming he’s fine, but I’d feel better with confirmation
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 6, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He limped into the dugout.
I imagine he’ll be pretty sore tomorrow. Good thing it’s an off day—even if he has to miss a couple games, there is a competent backup in Cedeno.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like
he’ll be fine. Contusion? That’s just a fancy word for “boo boo”.
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 6, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lance Berkman
who I personally have no ill will toward (though you might want to ask Mike Remlinger for a second opinion), had this little gem to offer reporters today:
“We could have swept the series, but we certainly could have won two out of three, and it just didn’t happen.”
Yes, Lance, and Walter Mondale could have won the 1984 Presidential election. Then they tallied up the votes…
"Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would bring it with me." ~Stewie Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Aug 6, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a jerk!
if only for the lightning and storms, his sorry Astros were lucky to get out of there with one game!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Berkman's OK
He’s right, if you think about it—they were leading 4-1 and seemed to have the momentum.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 6, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Two Days
I hate to get off track, but the last two days have been great. A new Cub fan came into this world yesterday. Caroline Addison, yes it is named after the street and not Grays, came into Cub world around 11:25 a.m. I joked with my wife that I would like for her to have our daughter before the game yesterday. We don’t have a Cub outfit for her to come home in, but by the time Oct. rolls around – she will.
The nurses and Dr.’s don’t understand why the Cubs game was on the last two days, but we have told them we are both Cubs fan. She is 2-0. I like the record.
Great win today and a day off tomorrow is even better. A 12-8 record is a good way to start the 2nd half of the season after the way we played in Houston.
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
by FSArkCubsFan on Aug 6, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats!!!
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!
And, born on the day of a Cubs win!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic! Congrats!!
Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.
by MetsSuck on Aug 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
congrats
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 6, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CIgars All Around
I raise my snifter of brandy to young Caroline Addison. Long life and happiness!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 6, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats man!
Let’s hope she’s a cubs fan for life!
by rea5661 on Aug 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats!!!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Aug 6, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!
Start saving for the wedding.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 6, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the new little Cub fan!!
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 7, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh pitcher might be pretty good
I know that it is just the Diamondbacks lineup, but his performance today shows that his win against the Cubs wasn’t just their choke:
by vonde6 on Aug 6, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: It just cost my $8.50
just to print out my boarding pass for tomorrow! On the next for 2 min. Bloody hotels.
On to much happier things…
And Al, you scamp! Getting us all titillated like that and then come back at us with statistics of all things. But hell yeah! Go Cubs!
by Emelie on Aug 6, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
for a flight?
what airline be that ?
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it wasn't the flight it was the frickin' hotel business center
by Emelie on Aug 6, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aha
why is it that cheap O hotels are free internet and more expensive places charge for the same thing?
heck the super 8 in georgetown, colorado let me use their front desk computer to print out my passes for the next day since they had no other printers...by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually I'm going to complain at check out and have them remove the charge
hotels are wimps like that, thank goodness
by Emelie on Aug 6, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK... so upset I typo'ed the hell out of that
on the net for 2 min. Sheesh. Either way it stinks.
by Emelie on Aug 6, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need to get a wireless 3g card...
...nothing like it.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 6, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also need a portable wireless printer
to print boarding pass.
Unfortunately, I haven’t seen one small enough to fit in my laptop bag.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 6, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
The only one’s that are small enough are the thermals…ugh…
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 6, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It always makes the evenings much more relaxing
when then Cubbies already have the W flag flying…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 6, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
and 3-1 dodgers makes watching the MLB.TV feed of the cardinal game even more enjoyable.
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
it’s nice to have the “W” flag up when everyone else is playing.
it will be like that on Friday, too … Cubs vs. Cardinals is the only afternoon game that day.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well whatever they put in the water in StL
is working, now its 3-3
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Giles has been claimed off waivers.
Padres have 48 hours to either work out a trade with the claiming team, let him go or pull him off waivers. Cubs reportedly were offered Giles before the trading deadline…
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well..
< sarcasm >
we could give him Howry’s spot in the bullpen
< /sarcasm >
seriously though… even with good OBA, where would he fit on the team
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
i do not have the wisdom you seek. I am simply too baffled by the Cards’s success as I watch them on my computer to form a coherent chain of thought they simply amaze me with their ability to compete day in day out. it stuns me and I am numb from it.
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I understand the Cubs' desire for Yet Another Lefty either.
But they seem to want it.
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replace DWard?
Just throwing it out there…
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
... I looked up Giles’ numbers. Not as bad as I thought. Few HR, but 26 doubles and a good OBA. He just might be a better bench option than Ward. Can’t play 1B, though.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a reason Giles can't play 1B, other than the fact that he hasn't before?
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess not.
But, I don’t know that I want a guy like that as the primary backup 1B, when he’s learning it on the fly.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blanco and Soto both have experience playing first base.
For one game – or even just a few innings late – I’m sure we’d be fine. With a long-term injury, you’d think Hoffpauir would be called up.
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of this is true.
DeRosa also has experience at 1B. Hoffpauir will almost certainly be recalled on September 1.
So maybe this isn’t such a bad idea. Giles isn’t what he once was, but he’s not a bad player.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i think edmonds has proved this year..
that you don’t have to be what you once were to be a valuable for this ball club.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definately help our defensive flexibility on Dome's days off..
...and DeRo could stay in the infield the rest of the year.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both Dome and Giles are LHBs
and most of Dome’s days off come against LHPs.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giles splits look pretty good against LHP's...
....and I’d rather have him out there defensively on Dome’s days off than DeRo, which was my point.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 7, 2008 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lake michigan water good for
rejuvenating veteran lefty hitting outfielders
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to agree with you cwyers..
we’re only a few weeks away from sept call ups and we’re all assuming that Hoff gets called up anyway. then we’ll have our for sure back up 1st baseman
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo played 1B for 9 games last year, too.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giles for Eyre?
hey it could happen
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is making $10m a year.....seems pricey
..for a 5th outfielder
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing whatever deal is made..
might have the Padres picking up some of that 10 million
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's about 1/4 of $10 m...
... that’s what’s left in the season.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 6, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point didn't even consider that..
is he a free agent at the end of the season?
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team option.
$9 million or a $3 million buyout.
He’s also a spectacular defensive outfielder in right, in stark contrast to Ward.
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't mind him..
like carmen said below i’d like him off the bench in sept. just don’t want to give up a ton to get him
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Howry be too much? :)
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only it were that easy
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Aug 6, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like him off the bench in September...
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By whom?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody knows.
Which is why we’re rampantly speculating about the possibility that it’s the Cubs.
by cwyers on Aug 6, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woo hoo!
Rampant speculation! My favorite kind.
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 6, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just guessin'...
Probably an NL West team. They have a close race there (minus the Dads and Giants), and the Snakes are missing Byrnes. It makes sense that someone (the Rockies?) might try to block the Sankes from getting him…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Aug 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
but something about brian giles rubs me the wrong way (anyone?). Perhaps it’s his frosted tips, the bulging veins stemming from his forearms, or his lack of a neck. Other than that, he’s alright I guess.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 6, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean he's a Sontaran?
Big John AZ will get that one . . .
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohh Doctor Who reference
I get it. Well played. I wonder if SWL could do something about this…...
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Aug 6, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, whatever happened to Brian Giles
His first 2-3 years with the Bucs, he was a stud, and a Cub killer. Then, he got traded to the Pads and just sorta fell off into “average”ness.
by DWChaney on Aug 7, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PETCO park kills careers...
Here are Giles’s home/road splits for the past three years:
Home: .257/.369/.377 (.746 OPS)
Road: .298/.404/.481 (.885 OPS)
That’s a 140 point difference. At home, his stats look well below average for a corner OF. On the road, he’s an upper-tier hitter again.
by SouthernCub on Aug 7, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are they going with a four man rotation next week?
Due to their being three days off
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good, because I may be in ATL next week
the difference is me seeing Z or me seeing Lilly
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's "redemption day" in Atlanta for Ted Lilly...
......for the debacle of last year’s ejection. You don’t want to miss that. :)
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
the (not so) overachievers are now up 7-3 on a albert grand slam.
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
make that 8-3
back to back. time for some Civ 4.
by ballstitch on Aug 6, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poo-holes...quite the smash!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's 8-3 now
Ludwick hit a home run to follow Pujols
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda like the Cubs 3rd inning today...
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 games in a row for Lud-wiggy.
he will be due to cool off at Wrigley (we can only hope!).
Let’s get that guy to pee into a cup before the first game.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Aug 6, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you say masking agent?
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
by Employee22 on Aug 6, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder about that too...
He did show some signs of power in the minors though.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 6, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since it's olympics time....
give him a cup?
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and check the bat
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 6, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me the question is...
Are we better positioned to win more games with Marquis in the rotation and Marshall in the pen? I can certainly see the logic in this, we have tons of firepower, we need another lefty gun in the pen, and, above all, it’s working. Marshall still inspires more confidence as a starter than Marquis (IMO), but clearly Lou and crew are making a different bet. And they’re a little better at managing a baseball team than I am :)
So from here on out no more complaining from me.
"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly
by hipster17 on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Lee's HR
Al, how was the throw back on to the field?
I had dinner at my parents’ house tonight, where I learned that my brother in law was the one that threw the ball back.
(He’s more a golfer than a ballplayer, so I’m guessing he didn’t reach home plate . . . )
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 6, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the Cubs staff
give him a replacement ball? I’ve heard that they do that. I’ve also heard that they’ll throw you out of the park for throwing something on the field …
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Aug 6, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No replacement ball
No ejection, either, but my nephews were ticked when they heard.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 6, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaaahhh....
that cardinals bullpen
pinata….errrr…piniero pitches great over 7
thompson takes 15 piches to shave a 9-4 lead to 9-6
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but the dodgers can't get the ball out of the infield against the
second cardinals reliever
blast
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards are unbelievable -- Pujols is 4 for 4 and Ludwick is 3 for 5 tonight
They must be sprinkling fairy dust (or something else) all over the stadium.
BTW, VivaElBirdos had a discussion today about the Cubs lopsided wins at home vs. the road: they discussed the possibility that the Cubs are stealing signs at Wrigley Field. Gotta love those Cardinal sore-loser fans.
by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which doesn't explain why the only pitcher they could hit on their side
of the mississippi was k wood
by tim815 on Aug 6, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards win.
Chris Perez is good—about 10 fastballs in the 9th inning going at least 96 mph.
by zevkalman on Aug 6, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
they must really hate being worse than the Cubs
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo Hoo!!!
BTW:
To anyone from Viva El Birdos:
GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!! HEY CHICAGO WHATDYA SAY THE CUBS ARE GOING TO WIN TODAY!!!!!!!!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .297 20 HR 52 RBI
by Galvan316 on Aug 6, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not any worse than people on here
speculating about Ludwick juicing.
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
by Bildo1805 on Aug 7, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it right on the over\unders posted by Tim815
over/unders c lee 1.5 rbi
berkman 2.5
I said:
Lee over Berk under
by Itchy on Aug 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre Update -- Drama is Over!!
Yay! The drama queen goes to New York.
No more updates!
Yes, even us Packers fans are SICK of the B.S.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 6, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
what this is going to do for the New York Jets. How many more wins do they have next season, when compared to last season?
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still an 8-8 team
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Aug 6, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably true
that’s about where I see them, too
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre is going to get him comeuppance with the New York Jets
I’m a diehard Bears fan and season ticket holder at Soldier Field. But I have always had great admiration for Brett Favre and what he meant to Green Bay and the NFL in general. That said his handling of retirement matters the past two years has been ghastly. Last year he held the Packers hostage to the last possible moment with his decision to come back. Now he retires only to change his mind and expect the Packers to halt all plans and insert him immediately back into the picture?!? Either that or give him his outright release so he can turn around and sign with Green Bay’s top competitor in the Minnesota Vikings? That’s definition of a selfish arrogant ass. The Jets are awful and have one of the sorriest offensive line situations in football. His sterling record of health is going to come to an abrupt end very soon. And if people thought he chucked the ball up for grabs in Green Bay the past few seasons, then just wait until you see what will have to be his act with the Jets given their woeful offensive weapons.
by MDBNIU on Aug 6, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He told the Packers
that he wanted to go to a divisional rival, and they told him it would not happen. The only place they were going to trade him was somewhere outside the division.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 6, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now The Lions Can Win in Green Bay!
Haven’t since 1991….
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 6, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre & New York
Uh, Hattiesburg, MS, and Green Bay, WI, aren’t the media markets New York is. How is this southern Mississippi man going to deal with big, big, big city life? Jackson, MS, is huge to Favre. The New York media won’t be kind to Favre after the first bad game he plays.
The Saints already have Drew Brees. For good reason, they had no interest in Favre. I wish Favre had stayed retired. If the Saints didn’t have Brees, it would have been nice for Favre to have played one season with his home area Saints. Also, the Packers might perceive the Saints as a threat in the NFC. There were simply too many reasons for Favre not to go to New Orleans.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Aug 7, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a die hard Packer fan...
an sick to death of it. I am also sick of showing these Packer fans who are so heart broken that Farve is gone. There are lots of us, who are just happy its over. I hope the best for Aaron Rodgers, but I cant imagine it’ll be easy for him.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 7, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ITS OVER!!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .299 21 HR 55 RBI
by Galvan316 on Aug 6, 2008 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point I will post my take
I took in the Houston series as my first Cubs experience. I can only at this point breathe a sigh and take it all in. Monday was my first ever Cubs game and it was very much an experience. I have been a cubs fan ever since I knew what baseball was it has been 25 years at least that I have been tuned in. This is my first trip to Chicago and I have not been disappointed. The people, the games, the food and the experience have been truly unforgettable thus far. I really do not know why I write to tell you all this. But, I assume that at least some of the people that read this live in Chicago, I know Al does. You are lucky people. Tomorrow morning I take my tour of Wrigley and it should be a good amount of fun. My trip thus far has just been amazing and actually seeing games in actual Wrigley vision has been surreal. Cheers.
by jajonez77 on Aug 6, 2008 11:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, seen a lot of baseball in a lot of places, and Wrigley is the best...
...although I haven’t made it to Fenway or Yankee Stadium, but the “ballpark in a neighborhood” feel can’t be duplicated.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Aug 7, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, though
I wish I’d been able to make it to Yankee Stadium before it goes away.
by AceCubbie on Aug 7, 2008 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrigley, Fenway, Telephone Park (SF), Camden Yards, CoPa
Them’s my five favorite places to watch a game, when I’ve been inclined to do so.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
by CaliCub on Aug 7, 2008 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been to Yankee stadium
I love it. But I love Wrigley more.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you from?
Glad to hear you’ve been having a good time.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ticket question - would appreciate your input
BCBers—
I have a question for those of you that are regular Wrigley visitors. My father and I don’t make it to Wrigley much, since we are in Minnesota and Kansas. We have found two dates in September we want to come to Wrigley, but the available tickets are standing room only. Has anyone purchased tickets such as these before? What can you tell me about SRO tickets? Does this mean you are admitted to the park but must walk the concourse the entire game? What do you think about this way of watching the game?
Appreciate your thoughts.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Aug 7, 2008 1:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SRO
Means that you get to stand in a section at the back of the lower concourse to watch the game. You can’t see much – the beer lines can get in your way, and if the fans stand up, they’ll be in your way.
I bought SRO tickets once, in 1998. My friend and I walked down the RF line and took seats near the corner waiting to get kicked out by the ticket holders—they never showed. So, you can try that and hope you luck out.
If you get to see a clincher, it might be worth it…
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 7, 2008 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SRO
I have been to probably 5 games where I had SRO and I really don’t mind. As Shanghai said you can usually find seats where people don’t show up and sort of sneak into them. My only complaint is you can’t see fly balls which drives me nuts, but a lot of seats underneath that is the case.
Overall it is better than nothing.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Aug 7, 2008 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, this helps.
So SRO tickets don’t simply mean you can “walk the concourse” the whole time, there is actually a designated area at which you must stand?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Aug 7, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
You certainly can walk the concourse if you choose, but if you’re going to stand still, it has to be in the designated areas.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 7, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still around Badger?
What’s the deal for bleachers? General admission, first come first served, sit wherever you want? How early do you have to get into the game for them?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Aug 7, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleachers are general admission -- 1st come, 1st serve
Al can answer better, but I’d say be there 1/2 hour before the gates open
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 7, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter Pence at bat
He didn’t have Pence down 0-2. In fact, he was in a 3-0 hole, then came back to 3-2..THEN walked him. FYI
by jimvanders on Aug 7, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and oh yea...
it was Dee Lee making the force attempt at second in the 4th. Not DeRosa, and he knew there were two outs..it was just his momemtum carrying him big time away from first and toward second. Theriot wasn’t expecting the throw to second so he wasn’t at the bag yet.
by jimvanders on Aug 7, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Punter Hence always seems to be...
...a thorn in the Cubs side. That is, when’s he’s not flailing around like an overcaffeinated Frankenstein’s monster, of course.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 7, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're asking the wrong question
Say what you want about Marquis—he does exactly what he’s asked to do, eat up innings and keep his team in the game. He has now thrown at least six innings in nine of his last ten starts, and that probably makes him the best fifth starter in the league. That’s a bold statement and I don’t have time to make statistical comparisons with other NL fifth starters, so if anyone here wants to do that, go right ahead.The fundamental problem with this analysis, as usual, is that if you’re asking the wrong question, the answer doesn’t matter.
The question is not “Is Marquis a good 5th starter?”
The question should be “Is Marquis providing fair value for the amount invested?”
I suppose the writer on BCB is probably a bad fantasy baseball player too. Examples of this type of faulty logic are like bullets riddled throughout the body of a typical fantasy baseball player’s season.
Jason Marquis was signed for $6.4 million/yr, which is a hefty sum. That is not 5th starter money. Your typical 5th starter is either on a rookie contract, or something in the $1-2 mil/yr range.
The Cubs are paying Marquis to perform like a #3 pitcher, not a #5. So he may be the best #5 in the NL, but that information is useless to anyone trying to assess his value.
If you want to determine whether or not Marquis is helping the Cubs win, you have to look at impact per dollar spent. The best way I know to do this is Pitcher VORP/$. In that regard, I suspect that Marquis is among the worst in the NL, though I don’t have that info in front of me.
Listen, you can wax poetical all day long about Marquis’ value, but when you get down to it, he’s consuming resources (in the form of dollars spent) that could have been used on someone else. So if we want to know whether or not Marquis is having a “good season,” you have to consider his salary as well as his performance and role on the team.
-Mini
by miniditka on Aug 7, 2008 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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