Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Friday 8/8, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 8, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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PrintSt. Louis Cardinals at Chicago Cubs, Aug 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
Today is, as you no doubt know, the 20th anniversary of the first scheduled night game at Wrigley Field, which, as you also know, was rained out. Shameless promo: if you still don't have a copy of Wrigley Season Ticket, I wrote a long article on the events leading up to the first night game, and the game itself, for that annual. (Order by clicking on the link.) The weather today couldn't be more different from that night. On 8/8/88, at game time it was unbelievably muggy and 99 degrees (and ironically, had they played the 8/8/88 game during the day, they'd have had no problems -- it was dry all day). Today, it'll be in the upper 70's with light winds and bright sunshine.
In yet another manifestation of how bizarre this year's schedule is, today is the first 2008 meeting at Wrigley Field between the Cubs and Cardinals -- one of baseball's biggest rivalries. To put this off for 115 games is just ridiculous. Imagine if ESPN's favorite East Coast teams didn't play at Fenway till early August. They'd have been screaming about it since April.
You're likely to see tons of red-clad fans in Chicago all weekend, as both the Red Sox and Cardinals are in town; the White Sox and Cubs are home on the same day nine times this month. The link above gives some reasons for this, and some of the rest of this year's bizarre schedule:
"It's more of a quirk than anything," said Katy Feeney, Major League Baseball's senior vice president for scheduling and club relations.
Feeney said the 2008 schedule has more teams home or away at the same time in New York, the Bay Area and Washington-Baltimore, in addition to Chicago. She pointed to the Democratic and Republic conventions and the Pope's decision to visit Yankee Stadium in New York and Nationals Park in Washington, D.C., as factors behind the unusual schedule.
If those things are true -- then the 2009 schedule ought to be better. Let's hope so. Enough now -- we have an important series this weekend.
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Those stat lines are pretty similar -- except for the strikeouts; Lilly has nearly twice as many as Looper. Lilly has thrown two good games vs. the Cardinals already this year, and has a win and a no-decision, the ND coming July 5 in the game Kerry Wood blew in the 9th. Lilly allowed a HR by Rick Ankiel, who has missed 11 straight games and may or may not play in this series. Lilly also has to be careful around Albert Pujols (.381/.458/.762, 8-for-21, 2 doubles, 2 HR.
The day before Lilly's game in July, Braden Looper allowed the Cubs only two runs in seven innings, but thanks to Carlos Zambrano, the Cubs won that game anyway, 2-1. They'll have to hit Looper better today to win. Looper's done pretty well vs. the current Cub lineup; only Geovany Soto has done well (small sample size: 3-for-5, a double, a HR). Kosuke Fukudome and Derrek Lee have also homered off Looper.
Today's game is on cable in the Chicago and St. Louis markets. Check your EI listings. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
If you happen to visit the SBN Cardinals site Viva El Birdos during this series, play nice. Larry runs a good site and there are good people over there. I enjoy the Cubs/Cardinals rivalry and though I want the Cubs to win every single game they play vs. St. Louis, there's no need to be nasty about it. Thanks.
Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 1:15 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 2:15, 3:15 and 3:45 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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...cant wait to leave the office and get to wrigley!!!!! go cubs!
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
Amen
I’m in the same boat. Official office trip to the ballpark, but the boss couldn’t make it. The anticipation level is at an all-time high right about now.
by SuperContext on Aug 8, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Now, THAT...
...is about as ideal as possible…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh thank a higher power (Cookie Monster?)
new content.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
Are the Spiders off today?
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
That game was an "instant classic."
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
Can someone explain that entire concept to me?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
SWL is bored at work and very creative.
His addiction to game threads led him to create one for an off day.
He elected to pick an historical opponent, and to make certain the cub bench players won, picked the worst team in history.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
Clever idea, actually.
Was just wondering how it all got started.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
He said he followed the PBP of the Sandberg game
True?
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
Yup.
Pack a lunch. You’ll be there a while.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
Interesting stuff.
I know there’s over 800 comments in there. I may try to get through it at some point.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
you really should. It’s almost a memorial to your site.
BTW – It says you were the guest conductor for TMOTTBG.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
It also says
that he didn’t sing so well….
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 8, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
It was one of the most clever thing's I've seen
in a while. It had everything that is right about this website in it. Every LBR-type nickname, the trolls, the references that only a BCB reader would understand.
Priceless stuff that belongs in the BCB hall of fame.
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indeed
if there’s any way to preserve it on the site, Al, you should.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 8, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
Can’t believe I missed this yesterday, I was so bored at work. Will read through it now though.
Go ahead, Z me.
But how did they "play" the game?
Was it some sort of computer simulation?
As you can tell, I didn’t get the concept either, so I abstained from that thread – especially after it got up into the 100+ comments range.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Same here.
Perusing it now it appers SWL just followed the PBP of the Sandberg game and transcribed it batter-by-batter.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Which is AWESOME
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Having a day off as a fan was kinda nice...
while at the same time it was agony. Separation anxiety. Looking forward to the game today, thank goodness it is a day game, I’m not sure I could bear waiting until tonight.
Jimmyeatworld
Having the day off
allowed me to catch up on Brett Favre…I mean, since he hasn’t been in the news or anything lately…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
my question is this
Joba vs Farve….who wins as ESPN top story?
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 8, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats easy
The Red Sox
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Their love child, Joba Favre
cue SWL for the baby picture.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
Manny being Manny in LA...
tie Manny into that, and I think I smell a sports broadcast emmy.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
Hasn't SWL worked hard enough this week?
Let’s give the guy a break, eh?
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Talking to some Cards fans the last few days
They really don’t want to face Lilly. For whatever reason they apparently have a lot of trouble with lefty pitching.
Hopefully that stays true, winning the first game of this series will set a nice tone for the whole weekend.
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ESPN
Turned it on around 9:15 Wednesday night to see if Baseball Tonight was on. Nope. It was a Yankees/Rangers game. Damn – don’t they ever show a non-Yankees game?
And Al is right – imagine the outcry from ESPN if the Yanks hadn’t gone to Fenway by game 115.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
To be fair the Cubs have been on ESPN a TON this year during the week
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and also to be fair...
... i would be happy to never have to watch another cubs game on ESPN
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
But to us out-of-towners
without EI or mlb.tv the ESPN games are a (muted) godsend.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
even in-town...
even here in chicago, i’m still sometimes forced to watch the cubs on ESPN, but that doesn’t make it suck any less.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
Sunday night rights, I assume.
But you can at least mute it and put Pat and Ron on.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
especially with
Joe Morgan on color commentary. Man, he sucks.
I was half expecting this to be another Spiders thread...
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Carl: I was looping in Nepal.
Kid: Looping?
Carl: You know – A Looper, a caddy, A jock.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
....and when I die, I’ll reach total enlightenment, so, I got that goin for me.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
which is nice.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Looper
Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-galunga.
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Hey Lama - How 'bout something for the effort?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I love the pitchfork in there for emphasis...
classic Bill Murray!
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Yeah, during the whole movie he looked stoned to the bejeezus!!!!!!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
In times like these I rely on superior intelligence and superior firepower!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Okay that's it...
I just ordered it on Netflix. You just made my weekend. I thank you sir.
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CANNONBALL COMIN'!!!
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Aug 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, as much as we've complained about the awful scheduling this year
the Cubs have had the best season any of us have ever seen. Maybe there’s something to this.
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Thank goodness
baseball is back in town.
Let’s push the Cardinals even farther into our rear view mirror!!!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
OT: Went to Soldier Field last night...
...for the Bears-Chiefs game. It was very…well…pre-seasonish, and no one was overly impressive, but it was still nice to see football…
Although since yesterday was an of-day, and today the Cubbies are back, football takes a backseat. Unless anyone wants to talk Favre…kidding!
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 8, 2008 10:32 AM CDT reply actions
It's going to be
a long, cold and boring winter from the look of things. I’m not much of a hockey fan but that appears to be our best hope. It sure would be nice to have a nice DVD collection of a certain team winning the World Series.
Go ahead, Z me.
Are you sure that eas football you saw? It didn't look
like much to me.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh football...
Football season makes me sad… It reminds me that baseball is almost over. I don’t want this season to end.
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Fret not.
We still got three more months.
(fingers crossed)
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Count me as a football hater as well.
OK, OK…maybe “hater” is too strong a word. I respect the game; I’m just not into it. And I get increasingly resentful as the football coverage starts worming it’s way into every aspect of sports media, pushing baseball into the crowded sideline like an ill-placed mascot. This whole Favre things certainly didn’t help either.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
I think my tag line says it all......
Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.
+1
I wish I could watch all the Caribbean and Hawaii winter league games. I’d much rather see that than football.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
you need a hobby
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I must be a freak then because I love football, basketball and baseball. Baseball being my least favorite.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Seriously?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Not really. He
has my full attention during the baseball season.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
I like baseball too, but Caribbean and Hawaii winter leagues?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure..
Lots of big names still play winter ball. In Hawaii alone, Ichiro, Giambi, Michael Barrett, Mark Kotsay and others have played in addition to just about all the top prospects. And the Caribbean league always gets some top players.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Football and basketball?
Over baseball?? That’s blasphemy Sue!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I would have put "game" in "quotes"
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Aug 8, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup..
Soriano
TheRiot
Lee
Ramirez
Fukudome
Soto
Edmonds
DeRosa
Lilly
Sending out the A-Team
Dome in the 5 hole again intrigues me. Something tells me he will have a big day.
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I hope so
I was really worried by his slump pre-All Star Game. He was looking REALLY bad in the batter’s box consistently at that point, but he seems to have made the adjustment and righted the ship (plus whatever cliche’ you can come up with).
by SuperContext on Aug 8, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I like how Lou used the lineup in the 'Stros series...
He seemed to have been resting guys better for the home stretch of competetive divisional foes.
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If Lee does, he will
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Aug 8, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
6-7-8
of Geo, Jimmy, and DeRo. Scary.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm hoping DeRo has a better game than game's past vs Looper
He’s only had one hit 14 AB (17 PA) with 4 Ks lifetime.
Soto, on the other hand, is 3 for 5 (6 PA) with a double and a HR.
Go Cubs!
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Surprised Ballgame is so low
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Aug 8, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
He's 0-4 lifetime against Looper...
Dome hit a homer against him earlier this season at Busch.
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what's great about this lineup
is i for one, have a lot of confidence in almost every player on the team to come through…..it seemed like in years passed there were always those players, bako, koyie, etc….who you knew didn’t have a chance
when your worst batters are blanco and ward, that’s pretty darn good
ESPN
I really wonder if ESPN will cover baseball’s playoffs if the very real possibility occurs and BOTH the Red Sox and Yankees miss the playoffs…..
Maybe they’ll just fill an hour-long Sportscenter with a static picture of Bartman riding a goat that is jumping over the number 100. (SWL? Picture?)
We can all hope, I suppose….I’d love nothing better than the AL to be the Rays, White Sox, Twins, and Angels. ESPN might never recover.
Maybe they’ll just fill an hour-long Sportscenter with a static picture of Bartman riding a goat that is jumping over the number 100.
With a black cat crossing their path.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 8, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be the worst AL playoffs ever
That is three NL teams and a softball squad. ESPN would flip out.
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It would be great but I have a feeling Boston will get there
I’m not so sure about the Yankees. If that happens ESPN will probably get Bud Selig to make a special exception for this year. After all, ESPN is already preparing their 1000 hours of programming on the last playoffs ever in Yankee Stadium. They’ll have to find a way to use that.
That would be tragic if the last season
in Yankee Stadium didn’t have a playoff series. The Maalox would be flowing like water at ESPN corporate.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
The Yankees may have to hurry Carl Pavano back
from the 60-day DL to help their starting rotation.
Pavano is working his way back from right elbow surgery and has been pitching rehab starts for for Yankee’s Double-A Eastern League team Trenton Thunder.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
The World Series will be played at Yankees Stadium this year
Doesn’t matter what teams are in it.
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Re ESPN
If the Cubs still had a rivalry with the Mets ESPN would be all over it. The Cubs have the misfortune of having a rival in a pitiful TV market. I’ve been in St. Louis and Milwaukee on business the past week and heard a lot about Cub media bias. In fact, I even heard conspiracy theories about the Wrigley storm game Monday – turns out the game wasn’t called because the league and ESPN want the Cubs to win so much.
The Cubs would be the honorary third east coast team on ESPN if they put together five or six good seasons in a row. ESPN would love to have the Cubs do well – they just haven’t lived up to their end of the bargain.
I'm sure they would love for the Cubs to win
but still there is a focus on the Yankees and Boston. How else do you explain the obsession over Joba and Giambi’s mustache?
Sorry Southside - I beat you to it, See above.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
D'oh!
I posted this without reviewing. So I got that going for me.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Aug 8, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty good photo combo in the post intro - Lilly, the Bill Murray
lookalike and Looper!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, don't be naive...
Lilly’s head is at least TWICE the size of Murray’s (or anyone else for that matter).
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by SouthsideCub on Aug 8, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, don't pick on old "jughead".
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yaeh, its a wonder that the middle infielders can see the batter when he pitches.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: Reply function not working...
I sent an e-mail to SB Nation tech support but they said they can’t duplicate the problem…anyone else with the same issue?
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
I'm heading to Wrigley now,
let’s start this weekend off right by beating the birds. I
Lets do it Cubbies
I just went over the cards blog site
and they have a thread asking why “you hate the cubs”. Its was some funny reading. What kinda of surprised me was how many stated that they did not hate the cubs but it was more of the bandwagon fans that they have. Now living in KC and having lived in southwest missouri for many years, i had many many friends that were card fans and they just could not stand the cubs. They also used to tell me how when they lose all the cubs fans say how their team just sucks but when they win that they are the greatest team of all time. a little extreme.
I kept telling them they mistake passion for bandwagon fans. Sure when the cubs win, you are always going to get those that jump on, and although we may not always like all of our players and our management I have never felt that most of the cub fans i knew where bandwagon fans or as obnoxious as they claim in the blog (the obnoxious ones are probably more of the bandwagon jumpers.
But the one thing I can agree on with many of the cards fans is the dislike for tony Larussa, that guy drives me nuts….............
Anyway, time to bury the redbirds, have a great weekend….....bandwagoners
Let go cubs
When we lose the team does suck.
Whats wrong with saying that? I have heard the same Cubs either suck or are the best team ever arguement before.
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Have you never been on
a game thread when the team isn’t playing well? It gets pretty nasty in them. I’m sure it’s those people who they are talking about. They never show up when the team is playing well. I hate when people say the team sucks. Yes it sucks when they lose but the team does not suck. No one is perfect and have days when things don’t go our way.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
My favorite people on this site...
...are the ones who posted on the spring training threads.
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I remember one ST game...
... the very last one, where there were people rooting for us to make a comeback in a game that didn’t matter. It felt like the regular season.
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we like to fly the flag
even when it doesn’t matter.
Which is why there were over 800 posts in a game that wasn’t even REAL. And had the Cubs not won, I, for one, would have been pissed.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 8, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
After getting through skimming that post yesterday...
I actually felt good at the end, like it made my day or something.
We are totally insane in here.
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Even Ron Santo isn't happy until the last out is made and the W flag is hoisted
His passion drives me crazy sometimes with the “Oh, jeez” talk, but you will never hear him say the Cubs or one of its players suck.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
This is worse than the gee wizz.
At least when he’s frustrated I’m prolly frustrated too. He needs to learn to stop in mid-sentence and allow Pat to cover the action as opposed to reading on top of it.
Of course, this is all based on the few times I can actually receive the WGN feed. Usually around 9pm, no clouds, and even then it switches between the Cubs, static, and, of all things, the Reds.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
AMEN!! Sometimes you can't find out what the hell is
going on in the game!! You can here sounds in the background of balls hitting bats and cheering and Pat is reading some stupid question to Ron, who can’t remember what happened yesterday, let alone what happened vs. the Pirates back in August 1968!!
Nor can I
especially when the Cubs are leading
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
I just love the way he barks "Come On" every time a cub player gets an extra base hit or
a potential run can score. He does it like clockwork every time.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats the beauty of Santo
He isn’t for everybody, and he usually has no clue whats going on until he sees a replay. For me it doesn’t matter, Santo is a fan in the booth reacting much the same way that all of us at the game or at home do.
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Agree
It is nice to hear his voice since it means Cubs baseball and all the great times we’re having, all the memories. Despite whatever you want to say I wouldnt trade him for anyone right now. Well maybe Jessica Alba.
Go ahead, Z me.
And a million bucks
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha...I love that, too.
Especially when he says the player’s name.
“Come on, Edmonds! Come on!”
It’s freakin’ hilarious.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
You almost feel like he's about an inch from swearing like -
“Come on, Soriano, g-dammit”!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Ronnie's voice usually trails:
Pat: That’s a deep one, it’s got a chaaaance…CAUGHT at the wall.
Ron: Oh, gah…jeez…!
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
my favorite is
when someone hits a big homer and pat is saying something like “back to the wall, GONE!” and all you can hear in the background is ron screaming at the top of his lungs
not that there's anything wrong with that
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I would give a 100 bucks for a camera shot of
him when a cub hits a game-winning home run. I bet its freaking hilarious!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i have been thinking the same thing.....
if wgn could get a split screen of the homer going out and ron in the booth, that would be CLASSIC…..someone send wgn an email and lets get this going!
Ahh... but it's Ronny...
He gets the Santo Pass, which is to say, it’s okay to suck at play by play as long as you’re a guy who belongs in the HOF.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
So that explains it. I thought it was one of those cute, cuddly cub things.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
OT- Baseball in heaven
Two old guys, Abe and Sol, are sitting on a park bench feeding pigeons and talking about baseball, like they do every day. Abe turns to Sol and says, “Do you think there’s baseball in heaven?”
Sol thinks about it for a minute and replies, “I dunno. But let’s make a deal: if I die first, I’ll come back and tell you if there’s baseball in heaven, and if you die first, you do the same.”
They shake on it and sadly, a few months later, poor Abe passes on. One day soon afterward, Sol is sitting there feeding the pigeons by himself when he hears a voice whisper, “Sol… Sol…”
Sol responds, “Abe! Is that you?”
“Yes it is, Sol,” whispers Abe’s ghost.
Sol, still amazed, asks, “So, is there baseball in heaven?”
“Well,” says Abe, “I’ve got good news and bad news.”
“Gimme the good news first,” says Sol.
Abe says, “Well… there is baseball in heaven.”
Sol says, “That’s great! What news could be bad enough to ruin that!?”
Abe sighs and whispers, “You’re pitching on Friday.”
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
LOL. i like.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Aug 8, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Oldie but a goodie.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Really
That’s the first i’ve heard of it
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I once heard on the radio (Bob and Tom IIRC)
the play-by-play of a game between Heaven and Hell All-Stars. I nearly crashed my car I was laughing so hard.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
So, Katy Feeney is MLB's Senior VP of Scheduling and Club Relations.
Good… now I know who to rip for this sorry excuse for a schedule.
Did the democratic convention have anything to do with the Cubs flying from Chicago-to-Denver-to-Washington DC?
Did the Pope have anything to do with us playing the Cardinals 9 times in St. Louis vs only 6 times in Chicago?
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
Is a bear catholic?
Does the pope shit in the woods?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I first heard that in The Big Lebowski
“Does the pope shit in the woods?”
I had no idea what it meant, someone had to explain it to me.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
That rug really tied the room together.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
He peed on yooourrrrr f*cking rug
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Did I urinate on your rug?
The Dude: You mean, did you personally come and pee on my rug?
The Big Lebowski: Do you speak English sir? Parla usted Inglese?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
Looking forward to the game today.
Hope the Cubs have their bats going long and strong today.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
What rhymes with Looper?
Super, duper, mc party pooper
A tick-tock to the roc the mic and i recoup-ah! —Biz Markie
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
'Sup Hammer?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Took a half day to originally to go to the game
....well that sales rep foiled me but I will be watching.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Hopefully watching a big win over the deadbirds!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree
and after the game we will one of those typical Wriglyville guys drinking beer playing bags. The weather is perfect
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Hammer doin' it with style
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
I have a sales call...
... at a bar down the street.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
High Scoring game today
I think were going to see some crooked numbers today. Nice break yesterday, got a great lineup starting today. I’m calling 10 runs!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Hey nji I just got my SI college football edition. Your Tigers
are looking pretty good. Of course being a Michigan Alum I thought the whole magazine was garbage. 5-7 for the Wolverines. No way!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys say that every year.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Gators!
Team Tebow and Percy Harvin like Leinart and Bush
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Who says LA doesn't have a professional football team!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Spurrier's USC?
Univ of South Carolina?
I keed
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
I didn't know you liked the University of South Carolina
Yeah, they’re pretty good this year
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Damn, flachimesa beat me to it
Damn you!
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Fastest fingers in the SEC
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
That's what she figured out
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
college football..
is lame… how can you respect a sport that doesn’t have a playoff system? ... lame.
by ThisIsResolute on Aug 8, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That's pretty flawed thinking
Do you like the NFL? Would you not like it because it didn’t have it’s current playoff system?
You’re right though, I wish the BCS would be done with. Division I-AA has it right with its playoff structure, but it’s pretty doubtful it’ll happen in DI-A.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
The BCS's excuse for not having
a playoff is about as lame as Bud’s for not having the team with the best record get home field advantage.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be real excited
if Geo did that today.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Just had a vision
that Geo comes up huge tagging runners out.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
oooooooohhh I like that too. :D
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
What, with his little teasealicious "GEO" on his chest protector.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he is special ya know. LOL!!
I thought someone on here said other catchers have their names or initials on their chest protectors. Geo had it on his at Iowa too.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
I think Molina has "YADI" on his.
Haven’t seen any others, though I’ve never really looked.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I’d like to see a nice day out of Soto and Fukudome.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
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"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Time to take these Birds OUT!
After all, they’re no Cleveland Spiders!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
Went to Idaho, to watch his son play minor league ball.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 8, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Heard Idaho is beautiful this time of year.......
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
So is Plesac
taking his place? I just saw him on TV and wondered why he is on there.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
thanks
I don’t mind Dan once in a while.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Here comes that big blue train - woo woo!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He is. But sometimes he's
entertaining.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Yeah, he often annoys me...
...but it’s hard to completely dislike him because he does seem so good-natured.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Just your basic left-handed reliever.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a no brainer - pitch around Albert Pujols
even with the base loaded, walk him if we have the lead.
Pujohs is 8 for 21 (24 PA) with 2 doubles and 2 HR against Lilly.
While you’re at it, Teddy, be careful with Looper, who has your number, too.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
you may be on to something there
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It will be interesting to see
how Lou handles that situation.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Yes, if Carlos Lee taught us anything over the last couple games...
...let’s hope it’s this.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Good thing Howry pitched yesterday!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Here's hoping
Lilly doesn’t get into any situations where he’s facing Pujols with the bases juiced. No Lillyhops today.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
ouch.
i gave it a courtesy chuckle at least.
by ThisIsResolute on Aug 8, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If Ted was a catcher
I’d be very afraid.
“Jeez, don’t throw it so fast. That almost hit me!
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's hoping
we have a big lead if the situation does happen
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
I'll take it.
We definitely have the top-to-bottom lineup today to do it.
Except, that is, for poor Theodore Lilly. Batting ninth…AGAIN!
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Though you'll never see a pitcher so happy to produce at the plate.
There was a game earlier this year he hit an RBI single and he POUNDED Sinatro’s fist in excitement.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
What will LaRussa do if Lilly is up and the bases are loaded?
For the good of little kids everywhere, here’s hoping they walk him.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
What do you think?
Edmonds homer against former team? It would be nice.
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions
I'd love it...
...especially if the camera panned to TLR’s face immediately afterward.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
You mean sourpuss? A smile would break his face.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
"I could use a drink right now."
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Now that was mean, but I like it!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
"a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,i,z,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,v,z,t,u,v..........x,y,z" with a pause
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
This link takes you to videos
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Oops!
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Look - it's Nick Nolte's brother!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess no one ever takes a good mug shot!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that the poster for Dumb & Dumber?
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 8, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a pretty lethal combination.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
eh.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Aug 8, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Guilty pleasure...
I prefer the Scarlett Johansson body type more myself, but I can’t say Paris is unattractive.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Not exactly true...
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Aug 8, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't the internet great? Anything you need at the touch of a key.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 8, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
hahahahaha
I tell you what, you’ve gotten funnier. Or I’ve gotten drunker. Either way…good stuff.
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
is it GAME TIME YET????
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
MLB.com is blacked out in STL
sigh…...stuck with the Cardinal broadcasters…...TV on, sound off…....Ron and Pat on.
LINEUPS
US
Soriano-LF
Theriot-SS
Lee-1B
Ramirez-3B
Fukudome-RF
Soto-C
Edmonds-CF
DeRosa (world’s best 8 hitter)-2B
Lilly-P
THEM
Mather-LF (who?)
Kennedy-2B
Pujols-1B
Ludwick-RF
Glaus-3B
Molina-C
Izturis-SS
Looper-P
Schumaker-CF
"Thank god I threw out my belt & shoelaces."-Bernies Mustache Wax on Evil BCB, 7/31/08
That intro they
jus tdid was kind of cool.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
first pitch thread is up
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/8/8/589157/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
my tshirt came today :)
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