September Call-Ups Announced
by hip2bsquare
on Sep 1, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
It's official now - the Cubs have called up 1B-OF Micah Hoffpauir, C Koyie Hil, 3B Casey McGehee, and RHP Michael Wuertz from Iowa, and also activated RHPs Jon Lieber and Angel Guzman from the DL. The final AAA stats for the four callups:
Hoffpauir - .362/.393/.752, 25 HR, 100 RBI in 290 AB
Hill - .275/.350/.492, 17 HR, 64 RBI in 364 AB
McGehee - .296/.345/.429, 12 HR, 92 RBI in 497 AB
Wuertz - 0-1, 3.60 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 29 K in 20 IP
Interesting that Felix Pie won't be getting the call, especially since the Cubs have only 4 true outfielders on the roster right now. Perhaps he'll be up later in September. One other item of note - with the additions of Hill and McGehee, the Cubs now seem to have 41 players on the 40-man roster. So, who got bumped? (EDIT: Seems that Chad Fox was moved to the 60-day DL, meaning he's no longer on the 40-man and is officially done for the season.)
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The Cubs have indicated that they're doing callups in stages.
Pie will probably be left with Iowa for their playoffs and brought up later.
by cwyers on Sep 1, 2008 11:15 AM CDT 0 recs
As far as a roster move...
…probably bumped Chad Fox to the 60-day DL.
by cwyers on
Sep 1, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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Kevin Hart too
will probably get the call after the I-Cub playoffs.
Pie wasn’t called up right now because Iowa only has three outfielders on their roster, although DuBois can play left field.
The only real surprise there is McGehee. First, I didn’t think he’d get called up and second, if he did, I thought he’d finish out the playoffs in Iowa first.
The Interchangeable Nates, Misters Spears and Samson, have already been called up to Iowa for the playoffs, and one of them could fill in for McGehee (and the other for the injured Bobby Scales.)
I’m going to have to assume that Wellington Castillo is on his way to Des Moines right now, as the I-Cubs have only one catcher. One more reliever will get the call too. I’m assuming it will be Ceda, but Rocky Roquet is a possibility too. It’s going to depend on which guy the Cubs think can still throw more innings this season.
But hey! Congratulations to Casey McGehee! You made it to the show! He’s the only first time major leaguer there. For those who don’t know, it’s pronounced just like McGee, as in “Willie McGee.”
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by Josh77 on
Sep 1, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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I suspect
that McGhee was brought up just to give ARam a few days off. Right now DeRosa is his backup and it will give Lou the chance to rest them both without really distorting the lineup.
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by tharr on
Sep 1, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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Felix Pie will be gone this winter
Regardless whether he gets called up in a week or two I am convinced the organization has given up on him being a major league contributor in a Cub uniform. There is no chance they enter spring 2009 with Felix Pie once again candidate for an outfield job. Most likely Reed Johnson will be re-signed. Jim Edmonds too if he elects to play another year. Either Edmonds or another veteran type until when / if the organization decides Tyler Colvin is ready for big league audition.
by MDBNIU on Sep 1, 2008 11:20 AM CDT 0 recs
Fine, But All I Ask Is...
You show enough integrity to post an “I Was Wrong” in the event that Pie becomes an effective ML player for the Cubs in 2009.
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by CaliCub on
Sep 1, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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I'll be first in line to admit I'm wrong
I did so with Ryan Theriot. I’ll do so again. But it won’t be necessary w/ Felix Pie. He doesn’t have a major league future.
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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Edmonds resigned?
I really hope the Cubs don’t resign Edmonds and if they get rid of Pie find a better option…Edmonds has had a great run but eventually players too get too old to contribute…case in point Gary Gaetti 1999
by jeff_pico on
Sep 1, 2008 11:36 AM CDT
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Gaetti was 40 in '99....and the Cubs rolled the dice on him
..to play everyday. Edmonds is 38 this year and would only return in a platoon situation which is hardly ideal.
This is a much smarter front office.
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by JB 23 on
Sep 1, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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+1,
regrettably
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 1, 2008 7:35 PM CDT
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Do you have this on a macro?
n/t
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on
Sep 1, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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You're continuing infatuation with Felix Pie doesn't stack up
I’m done arguing the point on Felix Pie. I’m convinced the organization has given up on a player that has now toiled for three consecutive years in journeyman hell, better known as Triple A ball.
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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No, you're not done with this
You make the same point every time his name is mentioned. You never add any new information or new evidence. It’s like Pavlov ringing a bell. I got the point. You don’t like Pie.
And what is my “infatuation with Felix Pie”? When have I said anything about him recently, good or bad? In fact, I got into a debate with one poster who wants me to do daily Felix Pie updates on the MWL and I refuse to do so.
I’m not infatuated with Felix Pie. This is a classic example of “projection.”
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by Josh77 on
Sep 1, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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Whatever
Your knowledge and understanding of the Cub minor league system is overrated. It’s great gesture and all that you publish your daily reports (thank you), but like it was pointed out your service is to verbalize box scores. I’ve not once read dissection of Felix Pie’s alleged new hitting approach. Or anything of consequential in-depth study on any of the top prospects within the system.
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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This is like complaining that BA's Daily Prospect Report shows BA doesn't do anything in-depth ever.
Josh will talk in-depth about prospects if you ask and did a lot of in-depth ranking pre-season. I’m getting tired of people running him down for no apparent reason beyond, perhaps, jealousy that his work is now on the front page. Maybe, MDBNIU, if you wrote a daily “Why Felix Pie sucks” fanpost and it got 5 recs every day, you, too, could get added to the front page. The point is – if you don’t like the work that’s being done – it’s an open forum – do the work yourself.
The “box score verbalization” is a daily rundown of what happened in the minor leagues and often a starting point for further conversation. Rather than carp, bring something useful to the conversation.
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by DGU on
Sep 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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wow.
your tool-ness is .99 Ecksteins today.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 1, 2008 6:48 PM CDT
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+100
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 1, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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"Classic example of projection"
What does that mean for Felix Pie when he has now officially toiled most of the past three years in Triple A purgatory? You don’t have an answer do you. But if somebody needs a verbalized box score you’re Josh on the Spot !!!
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 2:26 PM CDT
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Regardless of your feelings...
… namecalling, not permitted.
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by Al on
Sep 1, 2008 7:04 PM CDT
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Take it outside, ladies
as in off this thread
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 1, 2008 7:38 PM CDT
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But MDB might be right ..
I’ve felt all along that the platooning situation in CF has been a great benefit to the team. Whooda thunk that Pie was going to lose his spot on April 1 and that two guys not even in our spring training camp would arise and fill that spot ohhh so well? Methinks MDB is right and in line with what I’ve been saying. The platooning unexpectedly is giving Felix a last chance to prove that he’s got what it takes to break out and finally take his place on the team. He’s had all this summer to get ready for the Prime Time ..
But it will not last forever. I’d say this fall will be it. If he’s in the next call up, and I’m sure he will, he’ll be on a real, real, real short leash and he’d better be ready to execute when he gets on base, fields and runs or else he is truly history. He’ll be trade bait if he doesn’t rise to his potential this month. We want all the marbles this year and if it means we keep platooning, we’ll keep it going ..
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by cubnational on
Sep 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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Tough Call on Edmonds
I think wed all agree hes been pretty good, but he’ll be what 39 next season? So will he even want to return? Id take him back for a similar role, though i still think Pie has to be given a real shot, but Im starting to doubt it’ll be at Wrigley.
If the Cubs do pull of this miracle this year, I wonder if Edmonds would be the only player in history to win it all with St Louis and the Cubs.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Sep 1, 2008 11:44 AM CDT 0 recs
Depends on what he's looking for
If he’s willing to sign a one-year deal, I say keep him. If he wants more than that, let him go.
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by Josh77 on
Sep 1, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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Depends more on whether or not we win the WS and who the new owner is.
Also, the CF question could depend on the Cubs decison about whether or not Fukudome’s bat will play in RF throughout the rest of his contract. I think the odds of Edmonds coming back are low.
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by DGU on
Sep 1, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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Somebody beat Edmonds to it, actually...
Hugh Nicol played for both Cubs and Cardinals championship teams back in the pre-World Series days. He was part of the National League champion Chicago White Stockings (who would eventually become the Cubs) in 1881-82, and the American Association champion St. Louis Browns (who would eventually become the Cards) in 1885-86.
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by hip2bsquare on
Sep 1, 2008 12:04 PM CDT
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How about Neal Cotts
being the first to win a championship with both the Cubs and the White Sox?
Good catch on Nicol.
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by Josh77 on
Sep 1, 2008 12:13 PM CDT
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Pretty sure you're right about Cotts.
There doesn’t seem to be anyone who was on the Cubs in 1907 or ’08 who was also on the White Sox in 1901, 1906, or 1917. So, that would be a nice first for him…
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by hip2bsquare on
Sep 1, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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very nice, i was thinking more of 20th c. players though.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on
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If Edmonds wants to be back, then he'll be back
Edmonds is a cost-effective short term solution to 2009. Along with Johnson the Cubs would be exceptionally hard pressed to find a better and more cost-effective solution to center field. Keep in mind that Jim Hendry is faced with an escalating payroll situation that only is going to compound itself with Ryan Dempster and Kerry Wood becoming free agents. Plus the arbitration clock ticking on Carlos Marmol. It also might be prudent to lock Geovany Soto up to a multi year “pre-arb” deal ala what Cleveland is famous for doing (e.g., Grady Sizemore).
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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re: " If Edmonds wants to be back, then he'll be back"
do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds when you state these kind of things with such certainty? Truth be told, you have no effin’ idea, and either have an exaggerated sense of yourself or you just enjoy the attention of being criticized for being a gas-bag.
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by davidalanu on
Sep 1, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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FYI
Jim Edmonds is a 38 year old who makes $8 million per year. He’s cost effective to the cubs this year, but next year they won’t have San Diego and St. Louis playing all of that salary.
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by Tackle Box on
Sep 1, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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Edmonds won't make $8 million next year if elects to come back
Not even close in fact. A one year deal in the range of $4-5 million is a good investment. Edmonds provides a quality run producing left-handed bat versus righties and fine defense in center field. The Edmonds – Johnson combo has worked very well in 2008. And it should once again in 2009.
by MDBNIU on
Sep 1, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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$5 million
is way too much for a platoon player like Edmonds. The Cubs have been lucky to catch lightning in a bottle this year. It’s not likely to strike again.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 1, 2008 6:50 PM CDT
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Edmondws + Johnson > Pie + Johnson
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 1, 2008 7:38 PM CDT
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no,
actaully, I don’t think we can make that assessment.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 1, 2008 8:26 PM CDT
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OK
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 2, 2008 7:41 AM CDT
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+1
And Edmonds has been slowly fading after his hot streak.
And no, Edmonds + Johnson is not better than Pie and Johnson. It is this year, when we’re not paying for Edmonds. Pie can play better defense, has speed, and won’t be 39 years old next year. No, he probably isn’t a long term CF solution, but give Johnson the job (assuming there isn’t another signing) and spell him with Pie.
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by Kansas25 on
Sep 1, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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I'd rather start RJ and have Edmonds on the bench than
start RJ and have Pie be the backup. Even if RJ id the starting CF next year, If he doesn’t perform or goes cold, you’d rather roll Pie out there, given his track record?
Old or not, Edmonds has done it in the past and has showed few signs of slowing up.
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 1, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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Yes, I'd absolutely rather have Pie out there
he’s the best outfielder on the team, defensively — even better than Dome.
Edmond’s average is down to .223 and dropping.
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by drewishdrewid on
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.223?
Where did you get that number? It’s .233 (before today) and with the Cubs .257 — and his OPS with the Cubs, entering today’s game, was .939 — All-Star level.
Edmonds is just fine.
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by Al on
Sep 1, 2008 8:38 PM CDT
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Edmonds...
is 4 for his last 27. Yes, he is slipping, and a fading year should factor in significantly when it comes time to assess his contract next year.
I think this argument is more about next season rather than the current, and an aging and struggling Edmonds would not be an improvement over Pie. It’s worked this season…but it would be a mistake next year.
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by Kansas25 on
Sep 1, 2008 8:46 PM CDT
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The D'backs chose to pay Eric Byrnes 10 M
rather than play Carlos Quentin.
Anyway, this is moot. If the Cubs don’t win this year they’re going all-in next year and Edmonds doesn’t represent an all-in move. If the Cubs do win, Edmonds could be re-signed as a gesture to keep the winning team together, but it’s more likely that the Cubs will be able to do as the Red Sox did and build a dynasty by developing younger players.
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by DGU on
Sep 1, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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Apples, Oranges....
Byrnes was 31 when he resigned, coming off a career year.. And I really hope you’re not comparing Pie to Quentin. The two situations are completly different.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Sep 1, 2008 11:08 PM CDT
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They're not completely different at all.
In 2005 Pie and Quentin were rated 31 and 22 by BA’s top prospect list. In 2006, Pie and Quentin were rated 26 and 20. In the winter of 2007, Quentin was a busted prospect that the D’backs practically gave away. Byrnes was a veteran known for diving catches. Sounds similar to me. Pie-detractors only object to the comp because they KNOW Pie will NEVER hit at the majors. Well, the D’backs sure were convinced that Quentin wasn’t going to amount to much also.
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 6:58 AM CDT
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LOL...
Byrnes,31, coming off two of his best years….
Edmonds, 38, slowly decling his last 3…
How are they similar again? Oh, yeah, they both dive for balls in the outfield.
Interested to see what Pie and Quentin were rated after the 2007 season. At least Quentin showed promise and a decent amount of production in his time with the Dbacks, which Pie never has.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Sep 2, 2008 12:29 PM CDT
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When you're done laughing, note that you've made my case for me.
If choosing Byrnes (coming off two of his best years) over Quentin was a bad idea, then choosing Edmonds (slowly declining) is even worse. The direct similarity is that Edmonds and Byrnes make Sportscenter so that their current defensive abilities are overrated and make them popular.
Quentin wasn’t rated in 2007 because he had too much playing time. Pie was a top 50 prospect (I think it was around 50).
Quentin looked absolutely horrendous in 2007. There was no “promise” there. He hit .214/.298/.349 overall and .144/.226/.189 away from his bandbox home park.
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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Almost done....
Note that the comparison was Byrnes vs Edmonds/Pie vs Quentin, not the “choices” each team needs(ed) to make. At least that’s what I’m arguing….I’m not sure what you are anymore.
And didn’t Quentin suffer a torn labrum and rotator cuff during last year? Maybe I’m thinking of the 2nd half of 2006, where he was impressive enough for them to trade their starter.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT
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For me the argument has always been about the choices teams make.
Do you take the risk of playing youth with upside or do you sign mediocre veterans? Edmonds, over the course of a season next year, isn’t likely to be much better than mediocre. Byrnes isn’t likely to be much better than mediocre.
Go back to Kansas25’s original post – the question on the table is/was: Who do we play in 2009? And my answer is that to choose to pay Edmonds isn’t good in any situation, that we should either trade for a more certainly good CF or play Pie. If we choose to pay Edmonds, rather than play Pie, it will be like the D’backs move of choosing Byrnes over Quentin.
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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I gotcha...
I guess I was focusing more on the “Pie is no Quentin” argument.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM CDT
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Knowingly throwing an historically offensively-challenged
AAA baller such as Pie DOES represent an all-in move? Maybe so, in the “We will develop Felix Pie if it’s the last thing we do!” category, but not in the “we want the best team possible on the field” category.
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 2, 2008 7:47 AM CDT
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I must not have been clear.
If the Cubs fail to win the Series, I don’t think Edmonds or Pie will be our CF.
If the Cubs win the Series, Pie could be our CF, but Edmonds would be unlikely.
My guess is that if the Cubs go all in, Dome is the CF next year, because it will be easier to get an impact corner bat than to get an impact CF.
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 7:49 AM CDT
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Name an impact RF they could go after....
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by carmen_fanzone on
Sep 2, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Milton Bradley
We also know they like Ibanez (who I wouldn’t want to see in RF, but they’ve been kicking him around even with the current roster, so you have to wonder if they think he can play RF). Bobby Abreu isn’t a guy I’d add at this age, but he’ll be available. Then there’s a trade market which hasn’t taken shape yet, but is likely to have some corner bat out there.
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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all I can post
is what I saw on the Tee-vee.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 1, 2008 9:31 PM CDT
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Pie has shown time and time again
that he cannot compete at an MLB level. It’d be foolish to shun (let alone release) a perennial All-Star – even in merely a back-up role – in favor of Felix Pie.
That said, if we do win our last game this year (that’s as specific as I’ll get), maybe we do indeed let Jim go and bring Pie up. But RJ’s the starter, in my book.
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 2, 2008 7:44 AM CDT
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When can you safely determine that a prospect won't hit ML pitching?
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by DGU on
Sep 2, 2008 7:50 AM CDT
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After he has spent a bunch of time with the big boys
like, say, Pie has. How much more do you need to see? Great defense does not a great player make. Right, Corey Patterson?
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 2, 2008 9:12 PM CDT
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So, when Rick Ankiel had played 50 games at the big league level
and had a career hitting line of .207/.250/.310, that was a good indicator of what he could do if he was given a regular chance at hitting?
Earlier in the year, I pointed to the fact that Evan Longoria had the same batting average as Pie on the day Pie was sent down, that Longoria had more regular ABs, that the Rays decided to stick with him and were richly rewarded.
Fact is – Pie hasn’t had the kind of shot most major prospects get to work through their problems. You can call him “Corey Patterson” all you want, but all it does is show how little you have compared their two careers.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on
Sep 3, 2008 7:48 AM CDT
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Yes.
We should certainly give Edmonds the backup job because he is a perennial All-Star. Forget little things like salary, age, and ability. The dude earned another year.
I’ll be really disappointed if we bring Edmonds back.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on
Sep 2, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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Experience is an intangible,
especially in the playoffs. Ability is not really a valid point of contention, as Jimmy has more at 38 (and will have more at 39) than Pie will. And you don’t pay his salary, so forget that one, too
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 2, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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Didn't Iowa qualify for the playoffs?
Why would they deplete Iowa’s roster just to crowd the mlb dugout?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 1, 2008 12:25 PM CDT 0 recs
Because the Cubs are much less worried about the remainder of the schedule...
…than fans are, and they’re prepping to start resting guys, audition some minor bench/bullpen tweaks, and get ready for October.