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When You Come By, Bring My Stomach: Cubs 4, Cardinals 3

If you are a Cubs fan of "a certain age", you will recognize the headline of this post as something Jack Brickhouse would say every time the Cubs got out of a tough situation.

That was the case last night as I sat screaming at my TV after Kerry Wood gave up the two-run homer to Ryan Ludwick in the 9th inning: "He should have let Lilly finish it!"

Ted Lilly survived a shaky first inning and after that was outstanding, throwing only 90 total pitches and allowing just five hits, the single run in the first and walked no one and the Cubs survived Wood's rust and beat the Cardinals 4-3, holding on to their 4.5 game lead over the Brewers and reducing the magic number to clinch the division title to 13, and to clinch a playoff spot to 9.

It was the third straight game decided by a 4-3 score. The Cubs scored just enough runs in the second inning, helped out by two Cardinals errors -- and they should have scored more; they had three runs in with nobody out when Lilly raced home on a contact play and crashed into Yadier Molina, who held on to the ball and tagged him out. It was a very aggressive play for a pitcher, but Lilly has that bulldog attitude in him. Another run scored later in the inning and the Cubs had the bases loaded with two out, but Kosuke Fukudome was called out on strikes.

In the third, Alfonso Soriano threw out Cesar Izturis at the plate on one of his patented throws where he slings the ball sidearm and at first you can't believe he has anything on the throw, yet it gets there in time. It was a little to the first base side of the plate and so Geovany Soto didn't have time to get his leg in to block the plate; it was a very close play and replays showed that Izturis... well, he might have been safe.

Nevertheless, no one argued, and we'll take it. Lilly settled down and had several low pitch-count innings, and really, could have and should have been allowed to finish. Yes, I know Wood needed the work -- he's pitched only twice in eight days -- and it appears he still needs the work, since he gave up ringing extra-base hits to Ludwick and Albert Pujols, who doubled before Ludwick's homer.

Other good things: Soriano drove in his 70th run of the year. That equals his total from 2007 -- in 39 fewer games, and there are still 17 games remaining on the schedule. Felix Pie had a nice game in his first start since returning from Iowa -- walking twice (where did he learn to do that?), singling, scoring a run and driving one in. It's extremely small sample size, obviously, one game, and no judgments on his future can be made from this game. But it's a positive to build on.

One thing for the future that has to be decided immediately: where are the Cubs and Astros going to play their weekend series?

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he had spoken Wednesday to Katy Feeney, Major League Baseball's senior vice president of scheduling, and she had no concrete plans for rescheduling games.

There has been no known talk about shifting the Saturday or Sunday games, though there is speculation Saturday's game would be postponed if the hurricane hits Houston, possibly forcing a doubleheader Sunday or single games Sunday and Monday, which is an off day for both teams.

Another possibility is playing the final two games in St. Louis because the Cardinals will be in Pittsburgh.

Well, if they're going to play in St. Louis, why not play the entire series there, rather than make the Cubs fly to Houston, then fly back to St. Louis a day later? Phil Rogers, in one of his rare pieces that make sense, lays out the scenario:

The Astros seem to be preparing for a scenario in which the teams play Friday, hunker down while the hurricane blows through Saturday and then choose between a day-night doubleheader Sunday or single games Sunday and Monday (when both teams have scheduled days off). If the storm is too bad for them to play Sunday, theoretically the Cubs could stay over until Monday for a split doubleheader.

"I don't think we can get out [of Houston] if we get in," Piniella said Wednesday. "We stay in [through the storm] if we get in."

Huh? Isn't this just a little absurd?

While the lateness of the season dictates this series has to be played, there's no way it should remain in Houston, no matter how loudly McLane argues that his team deserves home-field advantage as it tries to stay alive in the wild-card race.

There are 15 major-league parks that will sit empty this weekend, including Wrigley Field.

The series should be moved to a neutral site—say, Busch Stadium in St. Louis or Turner Field in Atlanta—if McLane and Selig aren't agreeable to the Cubs getting three extra home games in the middle of the playoff race.

This probably could go without saying, but money is a factor. The Astros expect three sellouts, bringing in revenue to help underwrite their $90 million payroll, and will be forced to refund money if the games aren't played.

This is where MLB needs to step in, dipping into the central fund to help subsidize McLane's losses. Ticket sales from a relocated series could be donated to hurricane relief, with the Cubs and Astros providing matching funds.

Here's the predicted track of the hurricane as of 7 am CDT today:

Evacuate!

MLB wants the Cubs to ride that out sitting in Houston? I say, no way. Move the series to a neutral site -- St. Louis makes the most logical sense. Hope they make a decision soon.

In any event, there is business to be taken care of first: win this series, and root for the Phillies tonight.

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Lilly heeded Lou's statement,

“Roll up our shirts and kick some ass”… Did it literally to Molina and also with his pitching arm. Nice game for Lilly. I am seriously surprised that after he ran over Molina that the team didn’t score 8, 9 runs. Figured that would have fired everyone up!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I loved that he just got up after getting tagged out

and walked to the dugout all badass like. I don’t think ANYBODY saw that coming from Lilly. And I thought throwing high and tight his next AB was a bit much.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 8:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Typical TLR...

I am sure TLR will do something else today to bait the Cubs to get out of their game.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What Lilly did was just Baseball...

I’m tired of TLR and the “whatever he says must be right” attitude the national media gives him. His players would have done the same thing to our catcher. Even his quotes from the game are snotty.

When asked about Lilly’s performance, La Russa hedged.
“I’ll let the other team talk about him,” he snapped. “I have no comment about him.”

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree...

…LaRussa has always had that chip on his shoulder and he handles these types of things like a child who had a lollipop taken away. The play was absolutely clean. When a catcher does not give you any of the plate, you have to expect to have contact and that is what happened.

LaRussa is a very good manager, but this side of him has always iritated me. One thing that I have always admired about Ozzie Guillen, he would have come right out and said that was a great play by Lilly and completely clean, just like he did when Hunter took out his catcher a few years ago.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You hit the nail right on the head...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW

Molina said the play was clean, since he gave Lilly no part of the plate.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is a great catcher...

…and he probably lives for that kinda thing. Probably could’ve done without the charlie horse, though.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No kidding.

Got a nice deserved round of applause after the play, but I can’t say I was sad to not have to worry about his arm later in the game.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, Lash Larue and his Village People moustache...

…is a lot less intimidating both behind the plate and at it.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which reminds me:

Theriot and Fontenot need to grow Cajun Staches for our potential playoff run.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The cardinal announcers

last night said it was a clean play also.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just had a

dyslexic moment…I thought that was TRL (ted roosevelt lilly) not TLR…..

i need more caffeine.

Now, where'd I put that button....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 11, 2008 2:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw it coming

I love Lilly. I imagine he sits in front of a mirror saying " You talking to ME ?". He is what Carlos
would be if he just simmered instead of exploded.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 11, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my wife asked me if Lilly was ok

Cut to a shot of him downing a bottle of water and looking like he had not a care in the world.

by rgonzale on Sep 11, 2008 10:01 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Happy with the win but....

…The Cubs team from the first 19 weeks of the season would have stepped on the Cardinals neck in the 2nd inning, scored 6 or 7 runs and that game would have been over.

Still waiting for that team to come back.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 11, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This was my reaction, too.

Y’know, I make every effort to be as positive and optimistic as possible, but I was just insanely frustrated with the offense last night. Nine guys left on base overall. Pie sacrificed to second twice to no avail. It just seemed like the Cubs got guys on in every inning after the second and then came up short.

I know, I know…getting a hit with RISP is never guaranteed or easy, but I, too, kept feeling like the team I watched a couple months ago – hell, last month – would have exploded for another three or four (five or six?) runs in the seventh or eighth. And then I watch Pujols basically get on base at will and then Cameron from “Ferris Buehler’s Day Off” hits that ANNOYING ninth inning home run. Argh!

Don’t get me wrong – I’m pleased with the win. And I was thrilled with Lilly’s performance (LOVED the body check on Molina) and very happy to see Dome and Pie both contributing. But, man, I’m just longing for a truly decisive victory. I want to see this team dominate again. Maybe Harden can get them back to that level this evening.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once they start hitting the way the have all season all those RISP won't be left on so much...

So, silver lining: at least they are still getting runners in scoring position.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When the collar loosens...

…they will start to score more runs. Whether last night will loosen it remains to be seen (I still sense offensive struggles), but lets hope they can relax a bit.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think a win tonight

would go a long way to bring back the Cubbie Swagger.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absofreakinlutely.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree...

…they just need a little more positive vibe to really finish strong.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking that last night.

Series win, over a rival, away from home, first two-game win streak since what seems like the stone age. It’s gonna happen.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed wholeheartedly

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Sep 11, 2008 10:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't watch the game

I stuck to the plan of not watching the game, only turning it on after it’s over and so far so good. I’ll try again tonight. Saw the Lily highlight, that was awesome!!!

OT: Al, what’s the “B” under the recap? If you put your cursor over it, it says “Buzz Up”.

by McRipper on Sep 11, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buzz Up...

… is a way to get BCB posts noticed at “Yahoo Buzz”, a new way of getting various stories and posts on Yahoo.

Oddly, I don’t see the “B” you’re talking about.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't see it?

It’s on the bottom of the recap, where the comments are. It’s a yellow/orange square with a lower case purplish b in it and it says “Buzz up” next to it.

by McRipper on Sep 11, 2008 8:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strange.

I see that button, but on my browser it’s next to the title of the post, not next to the comments.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When you are in the post looking at the comments

It’s next to the title.
When you are on the home page, it’s next to the comments.

by lindz221 on Sep 11, 2008 8:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yes

I see it now in the post.

by McRipper on Sep 11, 2008 8:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And now I see the button on the front page.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually

I only see it on the home page under the recaps, once i’m in the recap, it’s gone.

by McRipper on Sep 11, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like the brainchild of Digg & CNN's stupid "iReporter"

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by dtpollitt on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I kept my respectful distance

again last night. Listened to the first couple innings, then sat watching “Man vs Wild” and whatnot with the wife and “checking in” on the game via Yahoo. Glad I did. I wouldn’t have wanted to sit through that 9th. Too many more of those, and I’m gonna have some real health issues.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Sep 11, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was watching the RedSox game

and they came in with a score update and showed the Ludwick dinger and I said, “Shit, here we go again” but Kerry got it done.

I love Bear Grylls. His show is awesome!!!

by McRipper on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I watched the Replay of the Bears/Indy, Pack/Vikes Game on NFL network,

Then switched over the GN news at 9:53 for sports. Saw the highlights with Dan Rohn and he says “4-1 in the bottom of the 9th… Looking pretty good.” So then I flip to espn to see the final score and it was the Sox /Rays game then I see the same score update and thought the same thing… I was trying to see the final but had to go through some agony to do that.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As good as Man vs. Wild is

It was very disappointing to hear that certain segments are staged, or that Bear receives help while in the wild. It was more fun thinking he actually was surviving on his own

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While Bear

has a crew with him and does stage certain things to “show you what to do if you’re in this situation,” I gotta say I like him way more than Survivorman. With whatever help Bear does get, he’s still doing a ton of stuff that’d kill most of us. The whole point of Man v Wild is that he’s trying to show you how to get out alive and get help. Wtih Survivorman, who’s cool in his own way, he just survives in a place for a week or whatever. He doesn’t have to scale vertical rock faces, trudge across glaciers/deserts, trying to find his way. He just sets up camp and lives off the land, impressive in its own right, but not nearly so compelling, imho.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, but I like the approach far more.

He’ll take a bike, half a bottle of water, and half a protein bar to simulate a biker getting lost and only being able to use what he has with him. I think you’re just taken by Bear’s English accent over Les’ Canadian one. ;)

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You got me there

Bear’s accent lends his show added authority. Makes me sit up straight and listen. I could listen to him describe eating giant grubs raw and drinking his own urine out of a snake hide all night long. MmmHmm. : )

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Men ;-}

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 11, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Bear was an English lady

he might not be as attractive. And I say this as a married man.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Bear was an English lady

I think I’d lose my obsession with them real quick like.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought Bear was an English lady

Silly me

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Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

“If Bear was an English lady…”

He’d have a much more difficult time urinating into things. : )

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Sep 11, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm thinking if we keep this up

a google search for “English lady” is gonna link to BCB.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say

we go for it.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Sep 11, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's A Win!

A win is a win is a win! The Cubs scored more runs than the Cardinals. Wow! That’s enough “in-depth” analysis.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 11, 2008 8:42 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a game to go to last night!

With the four-run second (only dampened by the fact that it could have been more) to Fonzie’s rocket in the third to tag out Izturis (my throat still hurts from cheering so hard) to the “Oh, God, please, I don’t think I could take this loss” in the ninth, it was a blast.

Now I’m hoping my buddy’s sister comes through with tickets for tonight. And I’m really hoping the Cubs/Astros series gets moved here. That would be awesome.

Oh, and as promised Al, I’ll try to devote at least fifteen minutes a day the rest of the season to wearing my Rami jersey.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glad you saw a great game!

You can wash the jersey if necessary. But don’t fail to wear it every day!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone called in to Dave Kaplan's show..

after the game and said there were a lot of Cardinal fans selling good tickets outside the park for half price or less. He ended up getting seats near the Cub dugout. Might be worth a drive down there.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe all that reverse stuff worked

Great job by all of you here yesterday. We’re not out of the woods yet, we need to avoid losing another series tonight. !og sbuC

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by tony412 on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.emoclew er'uoY

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by Zeke on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would love for the Houston series to be moved out of Houston

Especially if they play it in Busch. The Cubs have played very well there in the last few years.

by daeviant on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absolutely

it would be more or less a home field advantage for the cubs, they wouldn’t have to travel….not at all fair to houston, but thems are the breaks

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by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong

but I think our magic number to clinch the wildcard is 9 not 10. The cardinals, philles and atros all have 67 loses, we have 58 loses. That’s a 9 game lead (in the lose column) with us having 17 left to play; 17-9=8 + 1 would be 9.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe you are correct.

I’ll fix the post.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

the standings board lists our streak at Lost 0. Impressive, no?

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But you have to include the Brewers?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

We eliminate the Brewers because the Cubs only fall into the wildcard if the Brewers overtake them.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a bit complicated.

The Cubs can eliminate everyone EXCEPT the Brewers with the magic number of 9. If that happens, the Cubs and Brewers would both be in, and one would be the division winner and the other the wild card.

At least I think that’s how it works.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes... you are correct.

I’m still elated over the win I am not thinking right this A.M.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 8:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is setting up perfect for me

i’ll be at the cardinals game a week from tomorrow……i would crap myself if i was at a playoff spot clinching game

please God, one time baby!

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bring diapers.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i would wear diapers

if that meant a guranteed clinching game….swear to god

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very True

Easiest method:

MAGIC NUMBER = 163 – W1 – L2.

W1 = Cub Wins
L2 = Trailing team Losses

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by Goat Whisperer on Sep 11, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moving this weekend’s game to St. Louis wouldn’t make much sense. The forecast is for heavy rain tomorrow through Tuesday. Maybe as much as 8 inches.

I’m going to tonight’s game. Hopefully we’ll get it in.
Go Cubs!

by Spartan1979 on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atlanta might be a better choice, then.

But they’ll have to decide before tonight’s game if that’s what they want to do.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 8:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard something this morning...

they might even be considering Kansas City since the Royals will be in Cleveland this weekend.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Sep 11, 2008 9:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could work...

… although, neither the Cubs nor Astros are familiar with the ballpark.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would the Cubs draw better than the Royals in KC?

I think that would make for an interesting scenario.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there any doubt?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only doubt would be the short notice.

But given advance notice, I’m sure the Cubs would fill the place better than the Royals. I know if I had the time this weekend, I’d pack the car and head to KC.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

without a doubt the cubs would draw "okay"

for such short notice, i think a lot of fans from DSM would make the 2 1/2 drive to KC for this game…..great now i’ll be disappointed if it’s not KC

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 1/2 hour drive*

sorry, fingers got too excited thinking about this

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they'd draw pretty good in St Louis too.

Lots of Cub fans already in town, plus I bet Cardinal fans would a) like to see two different teams play in their ballpark (and, no doubt, become Stros fans for a few days) and b) love baseball to begin with.

God, this would make my weekend.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

cards fans, i hate to admit this, are good baseball fans period

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They’re the self-proclaimed “Best Fans in Baseball.” They see everything through Cardinal colored glasses.

by Spartan1979 on Sep 11, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which begs the question--did Reds fans see the world

through Pete Rose colored glasses?

Just askin’

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Sep 11, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and ...

they’re ridiculously self-congratulatory. If you truly think you’re the best fans in baseball, there’s no reason to tell everyone (ad nauseum) about it.

by elgato on Sep 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are definitely good and bad

as with any team. The problem I see when encountering the annoying Cardinal fan is that, to me, they come across more as anti-Cub than pro-Cardinal.

A guy at work who went to the game last night as well started talking about the “funny” shirts he saw Cardinal fans wearing last night, prefacing it with “I know you probably won’t find this funny, but…” and I cut him off saying I would NEVER wear an anti-Cardinal shirt. Why show hatred for someone else when I can show my support for my team? Don’t get it.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 12:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is a bullying attitude...Plain and Simple

I don’t understand the hatred…it would be one thing if we had a history of preventing them from reaching the playoffs/WS (ala Red Sox/Yankees).

Heck for years, we probably have aided them more in their quest to reach championships than prevented it considering our crappy teams, crappy trades, etc. etc.

They should thank us for our years of ineptitude

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would they root for the Stros?

Houston is in the wildcard hunt too… With Houston out of the way it would help the Cards.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

I guess my subconcious hasn’t fully accepted the fact that the Astros are back in it.

So they’d be cheering with us? Weird.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some folks on VEB

are saying they’d rather see the Cubs in the playoffs than the Brewers. The Brewers and their untucked shirts have irritated a lot of people this year.

by ChipSet on Sep 11, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've noticed that as well

Seems like the Cubs look slightly better to Cards fans this season when compared to the Brewers.

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 2-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. Nevada. Chase for Heisman!

by nji232 on Sep 11, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a hard question to answer

I’m not sure I can see cards fans rooting for the Cubs, but pennet races make for strange bedfellows. I think the cards fan relize that the division is a long shot for them, but the WC is still possible.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cards fans would pretty much have to root for the Cubs...

Houston is a half game up on them in the standings.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Busch Stadium erupts for applause as...the Cubs win.

Now if only I could get a CD of “Go Cubs Go” into the booth.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh how hilarious would that be...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be better than a rickroll.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, no, no...

…you can’t announce that you’re rickrolling someone.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 2:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know...

I said that yesterday. and you said you fell for it.

by tootle on Sep 11, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah...

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 2:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who would Card fans pull for?

I would think Card fans would need to call a temporary truce and pull the Cubs as WC seems more likely for them than division title. The past few days, Dodger fans have actually been Giant fans as well since they’ve played AZ.

Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago what do you say,
The Cubs are gonna win today!

by revtrh on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this pennant race is making for VERY

strange bedfellows.

Now, where'd I put that button....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 11, 2008 3:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hurricane

I live in Dallas, and right now, on Thursday morning, it looks like the storm will land far enough south of Houston so as not to be especially dangerous in Houston. So the scenario that Saturday is postponed and they play Sunday or Monday seems to make sense. The storm is supposed to be in Dallas, 250 miles away, by Saturday afternoon.

Where is Mick Kelleher when we need him?

by 3744nsheffield on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what you're looking at...

…but parts of Harris county are already being evacuated. I think all talk of Ike going south of Houston died off yesterday. I hope you’re right.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on Sep 11, 2008 8:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you are looking at an old map

It is going to be much closer and Houston is going to be on the bad side (front right quadrant).

Current temperature in hell: 44 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Sep 11, 2008 8:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but

Keep in mind that the forecast maps look a lot like they did before Rita, which basically missed us entirely. Anything could happen at this point….

by DaveinHouston on Sep 11, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This storm is HUGE......

You’re not going to miss major impact from this.

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 11, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And BTW...

My thoughts are with you…..please exercise good judgement and caution.

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 11, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very good points Al on the upcoming Houston series.

So good in fact, that it all but guarantees none of the sensible (not to mention charitable) options for moving the series, teams and fans out of harms way will be enacted. I’m betting “gate greed” wins out in the end. Too bad.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Sep 11, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Houston

The Astros website has an article about possibly moving the Friday game up similar to what Phil said. However, this mornings forecast is for tropical storm force winds to begin Friday at noon so I think this plan is out. Regardless of what makes sense, the consensus here is that they will play a doubleheader on Sunday and a single game on Monday. MLB might veto that since that would still require the Cubs to come in ahead of the storm. Your guess is as good as mine. I’ve got to go start tying everything down.

"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard

by TXCub on Sep 11, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just hope that all this doesn't screw up the pitching rotation for the playoffs.

a double header could mess up the order that has been put in place.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heyheyhey...

… don’t get too far ahead!

Remember, there will be two off days after the regular season ends. It can still be readjusted.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess... everything will work out like it's supposed to. God willing.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My compromise

Have the games at Wrigley let Astros bat last and split the revenues or something like that.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um, no.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:01 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not?

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a gut reaction.

The Astros would never go for that.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:15 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct.

There are other choices, and it would be unfair to the Astros to make them play the games at Wrigley. If they can’t play in Houston, a neutral site would be the best idea.

Many Houston-area sports events have already been moved or postponed. It’s really irresponsible of the Astros to insist the Cubs come to Houston when evacuations are starting.

Move the games. Anywhere.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally agree.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just thought an offer could be made

not that this should be imposed on the Stros. If they are as financially motivated as Phil Rogers says, then a portion of Wrigley revenues may be a better deal for them than all the revenues from a game in KC. But I guess it would not go down well with their fans, and probably their players and manager.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 11, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus if your the astros

would you feel OK going to Wrigley? they just swept us thier.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's true.

Maybe the Cubs could use that as a selling point. Of course, if (er, I mean, when) the Cubs won the series, the ‘Stros would probably whine about it for years afterward. I dunno…it just doesn’t sound like something that would ever happen.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know this has never happened

but maybe the Cubs could be the road team in Wrigley as another selling point the astros

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't think it happens...

…because the teams chasing the Cubs, would say the Cubs are getting an unfair advantage with 3 extra home games.

Lastly, sending two teams into harms way with this storm is just nuts. I know Mclane is pushing hard to keep them in Houston, but common sense has to move these games to a neutral site.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets follow the presidential elections and do something historic

play these games at principal park in lovely des moines, iowa! after all, the icubs are no longer in need of it

all in favor?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's no way MLB would agree to play them in a minor league park.

There’s too much at stake and minor league lights are not up to major league standards.

There’s one more reason they couldn’t play in Chicago. The Cubs cannot play home night games on Friday — and to make them fly home from St. Louis late tonight and play a day game Friday would be unfair to them. In fact, it’d be unfair to make them play a day game in Houston on Friday, as has been suggested by Astros management.

Move the games to a neutral site.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From the same sarcasm society:

MLB is welcome to move the games to San Juan, PR, Expos style. There are no storms in the forecast for this weeekend. Just kidding! ;-)

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 11, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just saw this, from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
the Astros today will determine whether to move up the starting time of their home game tomorrow against the Chicago Cubs from 8:05 p.m. to 2:05 p.m. to make sure it is complete before landfall. Thus, Texas officials could use Minute Maid Park for emergency purposes, if needed.

Call me crazy, but if state officials are planning on using your stadium for emergency purposes, doesn’t it make sense to just move the entire series, as we’ve discussed?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think someone from MLB...

… has to knock some common sense into the Astros and tell them to move the entire series out of Houston.

Oh, wait. MLB and common sense? Lost my head for a second.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lilly

is just impressing me greatly in his Cubs tenure.

I really respect a pitcher who this year is having an “off” year, but he’s a gamer, and he doesn’t take any **** from anyone. He’ll defend his teammates who are hit by pitches, or even buzzed inside. He’ll try and knock out Yadier Molina at the plate trying to score.

The man might not have superstar stuff on the mound, but I really like the man’s moxie when he plays.

by DWChaney on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more

He can be so frustrating at times, but I like his attitude, “silent Crazy”. Lou should have let him finish the game. Wood and the rest of the bullpen are scary.

by mgfabc on Sep 11, 2008 8:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the pen isnt going to stablize w/o being used

Now, where'd I put that button....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+ English Lady

Plus, like I said before, Woody only gave up hits to two Cardinal batters: Pujols, one of the top hitters in the game ever, and Ludwick who is having a career year. The other three ABs were outs.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is english lady

the new addition to the point system?

Now, where'd I put that button....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 11, 2008 3:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that a new kind of perfume?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Earlier conversation in this very thread

had a high usage of the term English Lady. I made an offhanded remark that, at that rate, a google search for the words English Lady will link to BCB.

Trying to make that dream a reality.

English Lady

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 3:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+Double English Lady

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Sep 11, 2008 3:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

it looks like you signed your post “english lady”

you english lady you.

- english lady points for being unclear.

Now, where'd I put that button....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 11, 2008 3:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soon to be accompanied by English Leather.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Do I make you horny?!"

in my best Austin Powers voice.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I forgot to say "English Lady"

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How right you are

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 3:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Goes without saying

THoughts and prayers to BCBers in the path of this storm and to any who have family in the area.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As a Cubs fan living in Houston...

I appreciate the sentiment. Even though I’ve lived down here for over ten years, this looks to be my first big hurricane to go through. Go Cubs!

by dedfishflote on Sep 11, 2008 9:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks Sue

BTW, I grew up in Clinton, IA before moving to Chicago for college. I’m still a huge Hawkeye fan and get home to the family farm at least once or twice a year. I enjoy your posts, sense of humor, and passion for the Cubs.

by dedfishflote on Sep 11, 2008 9:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks!!

I lived in eastern Iowa for 10 years and have been to Clinton many times.

GO HAWKS!!!

by sue369 on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Cyclones too!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 11, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cough cough

cy-clowns you mean

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cough..undefeated ...cough Cyclones..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 11, 2008 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

undefeated?

who have you played so for? sister mary margarets school for the blind and west des moines valley?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who did Iowa beat last?

Wasn’t it some airport in Florida?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 11, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take care, please.

One question: Is the stadium in a flood area?

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 11, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see how...

…MLB can keep these games in Houston with the likelyhood of the storm reeking havoc for most of the weekend. The smart play would be to move the games somewhere else, to assure you can get them in.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Let’s hope they make the right call, and soon. If there is rain predicted for St. Louis, then make it Atlanta, or somewhere that has a dome.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miller Park is open :)

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another good idea!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And judging by how EMPTY it was...

…during yesterday’s Brewers-Reds game, the ballpark and surrounding businesses could really use the additional revenue.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be there in a heartbeat!!!!

To bad there prolly is next to no chance of that happening.

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 11, 2008 9:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everywhere else other than Houston

there is going to be more Cubs fans than ‘Stros, so why not… I don’t think it would happen either but they would be assured of getting 3 games in this weekend.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 11, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Stros...

…would view Milwaukee as a Chicago suburb and would probably want the site to be more neutral from a geographic standpoint, travel etc..

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 9:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minor leauge park

I vote Lexington Kentucky

Do I need the sacasm sign here?

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twinkie Dome

Twins are on the road this weekend, so maybe they could play there…wait, do the Gophers still use that place as their home stadium?

by raisin1 on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No thanks.

We need a real ballpark at least.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

the new stadium for the Gophers isn’t finished, and they have a home game on Saturday. Minneapolis is out.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I might drive up for that!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 11, 2008 11:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was at the game last nigth…great game
Soriano throw from LF,,you could see it in his eyes he was going to make that play,,,it was almost like he was setting him up to run..
Wood giving up a HR was not good…but the Cardinals call in show afterwards had most of their fans mad about not getting another run more than being happy about the runs they did get.

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by cozmotaylor123 on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was my thought.

They can cheer all they want (and they sure did) but get two more outs and it means exactly nothing.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and yelling

knock his a** out when Lilly was 1/2 way down the 3rd base line does get you some dirty looks…oh well..it was the right play….

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by cozmotaylor123 on Sep 11, 2008 9:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell, my Cubs jersey alone got dirty looks.

But it is, after all, a friendly rivalry. Everyone was amicable.

Except for the moran three seats from me (and two seats from my friend) who felt compelled to comply with every cheap musical/graphical urge for crowd noise. That got a wee bit annoying.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is sheer stupidity to have the Cubs go to Houston.

The Astros and Cubs should go somewhere else on Friday. If Ike is not too bad, they can return to Houston Saturday and play the three games on Sat/Sun/Mon. If it is a serious hurricane, then the three games can be played in the other location and we all move forward.

But the idea that these teams play a day game on Friday in Houston when you also want people to evacuate the city (possibly) is insane.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 11, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have tickets to both Friday and Sunday games

Was looking forward to seeing the Cubs because I couldn’t get tickets to Wrigley when I came up to Chicago with my sons this summer. Hopefully the storm won’t be too bad, and we can at least take in the Sunday game.

by dedfishflote on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Power failures are likely during hurricanes

Power failures can stretch on for several days or more after serious storms. It is serious lunacy to hold these games in Houston this weekend.

by Cajuncub on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Also under consideration should be the safety of players and fans just trying to GET to the ballpark.

Move the games. Now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Astros team employees!

As I posted below… it takes a lot of people to run a ballpark. The ’stros would be very irresponsible to tell them to not evacuate for the sake of baseball games.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Sep 11, 2008 9:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm surprised that the Players Association hasn't weighed in on this with the Astros.

No way that the MLPA likes the possibility of having their players sent knowingly into harms way for a series that has options to be moved to many other, safer locations. .

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by Zeke on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm surprised Lance Berkman hasn't run screaming toward dry, inland safety yet

Cheap shot, I know.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 11, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cheap shot; Yes

Funny; Yes. I love it.

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by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No doubt the Astros are distracted with obvious family issues

Evacuations are not fun and wrought with all sorts of complications.

by Cajuncub on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magic Number

Hey Al, I was kind of hoping your random cub for #13 would sarcastically be Neifi!

by gp1966 on Sep 11, 2008 9:08 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

No way… can you imagine the firestorm here if I had done that?

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on...

we all have a sense of humor, don’t we? As long as it wasn’t Ohman, then I’d be really mad.

by gp1966 on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL again

I’d never have done THAT!

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh god

the fan posts would BLOW UP!

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs- Astros in KC?

I’ll vote for that one…my KU sophomore and his buddies could drive over from Lawrence for the game.

by thermal54 on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

i think we all agree this is the best choice, bud are you listening?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say the Cubs convert the Arlington Park racetrack in Arlington Heights, IL...

…to a ballpark and hold the game there. Who’s with me?

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont know

ive seen too many broken legs there and we all know what happens to competitors who break legs there…..

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by mjk83 on Sep 11, 2008 10:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw, c'mon, I could ride my bike to the game!

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me too

and considering how bad euclid would back up that would be the only way to do it.

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by mjk83 on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arlington Park

I can see the roof of the grandstand from my office in Deer Park. Short bike ride for me, too.

by thermal54 on Sep 11, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And instead of having a sausage race...

…like they do in Milwaukee, they could just have a horse race. C’mon, it’s perfect!

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like this idea.

I can visit my relatives in Rolling Meadows and catch the Cubs and gamble on the ponies.

This has all sorts of positives.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, if there wasn't rain forecast for Indianapolis

I know Victory Field is available, has 14,000 seats and I have the alarm code so everyone could get in…

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First off, great game by Lilly

and not just the pitching but running over Molina. Guess he took Lou’s words to heart. But Lou should have left him in. Come on, 90 pitches after 8; 8 innings that is. I remember Woody games when he hit triple digits in the 4th. Z? I’d kill for Z to be that efficient.

Now, onto the hurricane topic. McClain (’stros owner) wants them to ride it out; perhaps to the point of a day-night on MONDAY if Sunday is a no-go as well as Saturday. Are you kidding me, Drayton?

If – and that’s a BIG IF – Bud Light has one stroke of common sense, the Cubs won’t even go to the big state of Texas this weekend. Figure something else out. I’m totally on board with TheRiot’s comments; who better to know than someone who grew up with that every summer/fall?

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 11, 2008 9:17 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd be worried that Friday may be a no-go, too, even for a day game

The eye of the storm will be ashore sometime late Friday night, and the storm will likely be near Category 4 strength at that point – Friday afternoon could already be pretty intense in Houston. Why send the Cubs into harm’s way when there’s almost no chance of the games being played?

And it’s not just the players, either. How many Astros team employees and their families would be forced to stay through the worst of the storm rather than evacuate? It’s just plain irresponsible to ask them to stay just for a baseball game.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

The minimum wage teenagers don’t need to stick around just so the organization can make a bit more money.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was an interesting game

last night. How can you not love Ted Lilly? The guy was awesome. Pie played a great game and I would love to see him play several more games like that. Nice to see Dome get to play too. I think having those two in the game last night provided a spark that this team needs.

by sue369 on Sep 11, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pie could get more playing time in RF.

He’s played RF in spring training and definitely has the arm and range for it.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW

Felix may have worked on it in Spring Training, but he hasn’t played it since. He’s started in RF four times in the last 2 years (and not in 2008) – Three times with Iowa in 2007 (8/2, 8/4, 8/5) and moved there one other time (6/1). Also, he played RF once in Winter Ball – he started in right for Licey on Nov. 1 in 2007.

That said, I think he has the athleticism to overcome some of those issues.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was that the called third

where the pitch appeared to be at the letters?

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it may have been a tad outside also.

But maybe too close to take when the count is 3-2.

by zevkalman on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably too close to take

The high strike definitely seemed in play last night – the HP ump was definitely getting a lot of looks and questions during the game.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 9:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitch tracker said it was a ball

lou can’t be mad at him for that…..can he?

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by cubswynn on Sep 11, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With two strikes against you, and with an erratic home plate umpire...

..Lou may have thought that Dome shoulda been more aggressive, and perhaps protected the plate a bit more. I love Dome’s patience at the plate…but sometimes it can backfire and look a little bit too passive…..

by zevkalman on Sep 11, 2008 10:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buuuuuutttt...

if the pitch is indeed called a ball (as others who had a better look said it very well could have been) Dome walks in a run and keeps the inning going. Real sticky situation, but it thankfully didn’t hurt us.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I understand...

…but on a close pitch, you can’t get rung up with the bases juiced and pass up on an opportunity to do some damage.

I understand he has a good eye, but you have to change your approach with 2 strikes and expand the zone a tad.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't disagree on any point.

Perhaps Kosuke was afraid of striking out again and thought, on that last pitch, if he thinks it’s a ball he’s gonna take it.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was always taught...

…with 2 strikes, you have to expand the zone a few inches. The reason why; never put your fate in the umpires hands with 2 strikes.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Never, never, never take a pitch when it is close to the strike zone and you’re batting with 2 strikes.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You hit the nail on the head.

Fukodome is playing scared. He’s more concerned not to fail than doing the right thing. Therefore, he’s lost his aggressiveness at the plate. That pitch was too close to take.

Many players in this team are playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 11, 2008 2:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His confidence...

..is just lost right now and has been for quite a while. Its just amazing that he hasn’t been able to recover it for this long, because I really think he is somewhere between what he did the first 3 months and what we have seen the last 2 months. There are mitigating factors here with what he has been through, which is pretty unique.

I sure hope he recaptures his confidence before October, because he can be extremely valuable both in the field and at the plate.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he doesn't by October

I think his second year in the majors could be impressive.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 2:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wholehearted agree

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 11, 2008 3:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cant take called thirds

I know it sucks, but you have to protect against anything that can get called a strike, not anything that actually is a strike. I am sure Dome is frustrated at the low quality umpiring behind the plate here in the states, but he has to adjust.

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by californiachicagoan on Sep 11, 2008 11:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just pictured Dome...

…bringing a laptop into Lou’s hotel room and showing him the Gameday results. Lou looks at the screen, grumbles something about how his grandkids tried to get him to play video games with them once and it gave him a headache, and hands the laptop back to Kosuke.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, from Fukudome's face

and from what I could tell from seeing the pitch on TV, it was ball 4.

by ChipSet on Sep 11, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

seems like the whole team becomes more patient at the plate when Dome is in the lineup. And it was great to see Pie with the good eye and going with the pitch and getting a solid hit to left. Looks like he learned a lot in Iowa.

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by Bump Bailey on Sep 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KC is suppose to get pounded with rain this weekend also

Although the last time the cubs played here during interleague play there were a bunch of cubs fans, alot of people from chitown down here

Let go cubs

by cubsfaninkc on Sep 11, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I just looked at weather forecasts.

Both KC and St. Louis have heavy rain in the forecast all weekend.

Maybe Atlanta is a better choice. Or Milwaukee. Or even Tampa.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 9:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please not the state of Florida

Haven’t we had enough that state?

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by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs <