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MLB needs to step up and do the right thing

MLB never ceases to amaze me!  Here we are, less than 12 hours away from when the Cubs are to get on a plane to fly to Houston and MLB is sitting on its hands.  How do they even consider sending the Cubs there?  I know, its about money for the Stros ownership but this is ridiculous.  You dont tempt fate.  The right thing is to bail on Houston immediately and move to a neutural site.  In todays world of crazy weather and massive weather related tragedy, you must be flexible.

Note to MLB:  Make a decision now...and do the right thing!!!!

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Yep...

I gotta agree with you there.

by jdb-44 on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to believe

it is too late now to make all the adjustments that would be necessary to play elsewhere. They sat back so long. Is the retractable roof not enough to shelter them from the storm? I seriosuly don’t know this cause I have no clue how severe the storm is now. I thought it was cooling off a bit.

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by Kinky Reggae on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

getting worse

It is actually getting worse…as far as Houston is concerned. That is my point; MLB always waits and then makes stupid decisions. Its like the steroid situation; “If we ignore it long enough, it will eventually go away”. Well that philosophy didnt work.
My Dad made a great point; Where is Berkman now? He was the one ripping his jewelry off and complaining to MLB last month during the thunderstorm. This is a hurricane.

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im guessing Berkman and his jewelry

think they will be safe under the roof.

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by Kinky Reggae on Sep 11, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he should turn on the weather channel,

no roof is safe from this violent of a storm.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Sep 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a quote from an AP strory this morning...

If current projections of the storm’s path hold up, the area surrounding Houston — home to about 4 million people — would be lashed by the eastern or “dirty” side of the storm, said meteorologist Jeff Masters, co-founder of San Francisco-based Weather Underground. This stronger side of the storm often packs heavy rains, walloping storm surge and tornadoes.

“I expect a lot of damage in Houston from this storm,” said Masters, adding that Ike could cause a “huge storm surge” affecting at least 100 miles of the Texas coast.

Patrick Trahan, spokesman for the city of Houston, told The Associated Press early Thursday that “based on the current forecast (we) would expect to see some flooding based solely on the surge in some low-lying areas.”

by joz132 on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually the Players Union needs to be the bad guy and force the hand of MLB

Players cannot be put in a position of evacuation. Period. Coming into the city while evacuation is being ordered is ludicrous. Houston could turn into New Orleans and then what?

First order of business is safety, then community service and then show must go on.

Move the games to Denver or St Louis, sell the tickets to a relief fund and have MLB pony up the difference to Houston.

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by Ivy Walls on Sep 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, move it to denver! i’ve not heard that idea before. sinc i live in denver, i think this would be fabulous!

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by anormal on Sep 11, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this made me look it up. the rockies are at home this weekend. boo! no chance of moving the games here.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Sep 11, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worry but flights are already being cancelled into Houston

no flights either way by noon tomorrow.

I can’t see this going anywhere since the world is telling MLB, what?

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by Ivy Walls on Sep 11, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs flight is tonight after the game....

If they still fly them in with a hurricane on it’s way Friday, it will be the biggest f*ck up by MLB EVER!

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't understand...

…why this decision has not been made already. I know there is a chance the storm takes a hard turn and goes elswhere, but you can’t bank on that. If it continues on its current projection, I would imagine Houston is going to suffer power outages throughout the city and they may last several days.

What are they going to do, bring in generators to power the lights and play in front of about 50 people? This is just crazy.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon you know why

It’s all about the greenbacks. If they move the games out of Houston, the Astros have to refund all that money. In addition, this could negatively effect Houston’s wild card chances which would also hamper their revenue stream.

Don’t get me wrong. I think it is insane that as a city is being evacuated to bring people into it just to play a baseball game. Also, I would think the mayor of Houston, if he’s concerned with the welfare of his citizens, would not want to keep an attraction in the city which would then tempt people to stay that would have otherwise evacuated.

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by jerry morales rules on Sep 11, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A roof is all well and good...

….but do you really want 10s of thousands of people driving to and from ballgames in the middle of a hurricane?

I agree, it’s nuts to send the Cubs (or anyone) INTO a known hurricane zone.

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by CaughtInTheVines on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My question is..

how much money do the Astros honestly stand to lose? Aren’t they telling people to evacuate? How many of those people (if they have tickets) are going to rush back the next day for a game?

If it’s serious enough for regular folks to be told to leave then shouldn’t it also be serious enough to not have people flown in? I can understand playing at a neutral site and either St. Louis or Atlanta works. Atlanta would be better for the Cubs since there’s a large Cubs fanbase and they are undefeated there this year and St Louis probably works better for Houston as you’ll at least get some Cardinal fans to root against the Cubs.

by CubFan81 on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The stros stand to lose a boat load. If the game is moved, they will have to re-fund all those paying customers and all three games are undoubtedly sold out. I did check the St Louie forcast and they are most likely going to get some rain from this which could be trouble. Perhaps Atlanta is better, I didnt look.

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cancel vs Play

If the Astros cancel (move) the game, they have to refund the ticket price. If they play and only 5,000 people show up, the Astros do not have to refund the money to the 35,000 no shows.

by john62 on Sep 11, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would imagine...

…The stros stand to lose 8-10 million from lost revenue and can understand them going all out to keep the games there. With that said, the forecast is the forecast and MLB is going to look really bad if these teams get stuck in Houston for a couple games with heavy rains, winds and power outages. It could really screw up both teams because 1 or 2 of these games may have to be made up after the regular season, if they don’t move to another city today.

If I’m Hendry, I fight this tooth and nail.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just wodering

but couldn’t they have insurance to cover any business related disruptions?

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by jerry morales rules on Sep 11, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agee with all of this.

There’s no way the Cubs should be forced to fly into the face of a major hurricane. Just how stupid is MLB?

Oh, wait. I already know.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll make a prediction...

…the Cubs will not fly into Houston tonight. I can see the players revolting big time on this and I think management will back them up. I can see the MLPA getting involved at the 11th hour and saying this ain’t going to happen.

From there, I say it’s 50/50 whether they get back to play a game Sunday and may have to settle for only a double header on Monday (if that is possible). These teams are going to get screwed with makeup games after the season, because they are likely to be needed to settle playoff ramifications.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope you're right.

This is one case where the MLBPA has to step in and tell Bud and Drayton McLane, “We’re not doing this, it’s too dangerous.”

They could solve the entire problem by rescheduling the series at a neutral site, or at least play TWO games at a neutral site, say, Friday & Saturday. Then if they really want to, they could go back to Houston to play on Monday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've figured it out

God doesn’t want the Cubs and Astros to play. Chicago tornadoes, Houston hurricanes, if they go play in St. Louis undoubtedly there will be flooding or locusts or the plague or something.

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Sep 11, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta forecast for the weekend

Hot and muggy but little chance of rain. Time to schedule it.

by Cajuncub on Sep 11, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB is saying that

They could play the games Sunday or Monday…

Well here’s a thought, What If Minute Made park has damage to it and they cant play the games anyway? And whose going to be even able to get into Houston after the storm has passed anyway.

Bud Selig your a freaken moron

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by Galvan316 on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A part of me...

…would like to see this blow up in MLB’s face. The problem is, if it does both the Cubs and Stros will be screwed, because it increases the likelyhood of makeup games after the last game of the year.

I guess this shows the power McLane has with Selig.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bud Selig is a total moron indeed and I agree with the next post that part of me would like it to blow up in MLB’s face…only problem being that if that happens it affects our team. Watch them try and play Sunday night and then Monday in Houston. If there are major problems in Houston then it will blow up.
Sorry Bud Selig and Mclane…you guys are not above mother nature. Throw in the towel on this one and accept it for what it is…a natural disaster.

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the stadium is damaged

then you could move the games to a neutral site on Sunday and Monday. There is no need to do it for tomorrow. MLB won’t make that decision until the last minute. They do not want to move the games for obvious reasons.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What reasons?

Like the safety of the employees who may want to evacuate or is that irrelevant to this argument?

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by jerry morales rules on Sep 11, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

I don’t understand why they didn’t have plan A and plan B. Everything goes fine the Cubs and Astros play as scheduled. Problems this is already in place.

Little known fact the Cubs and Sox already have a reciprocal agreement if long term damage happened to Wrigley or the Cell.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1991

Does anyone remember that bizarro doubleheader the Cubs played with the Expos in 1991 when the Olympic Stadium fell apart?

What I remember most is my pictures all came out backwards.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
the Astros today will determine whether to move up the starting time of their home game tomorrow against the Chicago Cubs from 8:05 p.m. to 2:05 p.m. to make sure it is complete before landfall. Thus, Texas officials could use Minute Maid Park for emergency purposes, if needed.

If the state is planning on using the stadium, it cannot be used for baseball. Asking employees, especially the gameday ones who make little money for their work, to skip around in the face of a hurricane is irresponsible.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely Irresponsible

Also, last I checked, the Superdome didn’t fare completely well when Katrina came calling.

This is irresponsible on so many levels.

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by jerry morales rules on Sep 11, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So in other words

The Cubs can play a game there tomorrow if it’s not storming…. but then they’re stuck in Houston. What are they going to do? Play the game and then evacuate? That doesn’t make sense.

by daeviant on Sep 11, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they'll get to bunk in MMP

with all the other evacuees/refugees who are stranded, too. Should make for good times and swell team-bonding.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the Chicago Tribune:

Article link:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-080910-hurricane-ike-chicago-cubs-houston,0,1532803.story

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he had spoken Wednesday to Katy Feeney, Major League Baseball’s senior vice president of scheduling, and she had no concrete plans for rescheduling games.

Even Theriot wants nothing to do with it:

“I don’t want to go,” Ryan Theriot said. "I understand why the Astros want the games there. They’re in the wild-card [race] and playing well. But [if] that storm does turn and they evacuate the city, then what do you do? Now we’re stuck. You hop on a bus and go where?

“Take a bus from Houston to Chicago? I just don’t know what the outcome will be, and [hurricanes are] so hard to predict. When you have no power or no cabs to get anything to eat and you’re just stuck, that’s no fun for anybody. … I’d hate to get stuck.”

by McCarron on Sep 11, 2008 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Listen to Theriot

He’s from Louisiana. Baton Rouge, which is inland from the gulf coast, got hit very hard by Gustav. Houston may be inland from the gulf coast but don’t think Ike can’t do a lot of damage to the fourth most populous city in the country.

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by memphiscub on Sep 11, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I were the Cubs

If I were the Cubs I’d fly back to Chicago or stay in St Louis for now.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Score is reporting that UNOFFICIALLY

DH Sunday, game Monday. That is the current plan they are kicking around.

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by nji232 on Sep 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And what then happens...

… if the airport in Houston doesn’t reopen till midday Sunday or later? What then?

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the situation on Saturday

dictates that they can’t get into Houston, then they can move the series to Atlanta for Sunday. But they aren’t going to make that decision today, nor do they need to if they actually have a Plan B (which I’m assuming they do but aren’t telling us.)

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

…they won’t make the decision today, but they will need to make backup plans right now in case this thing blows up. Once those backup plans are made, word will leak where they are looking at.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously...

…McLane got MLB to go along with his desire to keep the games in Houston, even with a Hurrican coming through. I would bet, that Hendry came back with something like this; “I ain’t flying my team into a hurrican zone” and they came up with the compromise to wait until Sunday.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Total BS. It could still blow up. What if there is damage in Houston? Ridiculous.
This also affects our rotation I would think. I hope the Cubs sweep them!

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See this is what I think is at the heart of the complaints

Everyone keeps saying “What if this happens?” or “What if we can’t play?” But what I really think people are saying is “How is this going to screw up the Cubs rotation?” MLB doesn’t care about that.

IF Minute Maid Park is damaged or IF the teams can’t get into Houston for Sunday THEN they will move the series to a neutral park. But everyone wants the games moved to a neutral site because it’s more advantageous to the Cubs if that happens.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can only speak for myself...

…but I am not thinking of the Cubs rotation, I am thinking about avoiding makeup games after the season in concluded.

Again, they might not have to make a call today or even tomorrow, but the backup location selection can’t wait that long.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurricane question

Isnt it possible that Houston gets evacuated b/c of the hurricane? Are people going to let back by Sunday?

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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question.

This is all just silly.

by sue369 on Sep 11, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why doesn't MLB just get off their lazy asses

And set up the games in another stadium? They’ve done it before.

by daeviant on Sep 11, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible

With the current track of the storm, officials will probably only call for an evacuation of the coastal areas and roughly the SE quadrant of the city, which is the low-lying part. Flooding and tornados could affect other parts, depending on how fast the system moves through. But the area around the park and most of the city will almost certainly not be evacuated. There is little serious danger to most of the (sprawling) metro area, and the evacuation routes need to be available to those people who really need them.

I’m glad to hear the league is already considering at least postponing until Sunday. You don’t want people trying to drive through downed trees and areas without power to go to a baseball game. By Saturday, they’ll know what step to take.

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by zambranofan on Sep 11, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By Saturday Night

They most likely will not have a good understanding of the situation until late Saturday afternoon. This means the Cubs will have to fly in during the tail end of the storm or Sunday morning prior to the DH. MLB is taking a gamble to accomodate Stros.

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live here

and the evacuation plan is really only for the low lying storm-surge prone areas to evacuate. Now the majority of people might try to evacuate, but they probably don’t need to. Houston is far enough inland that I expect even if Ike makes landfall as a medium Cat 3, most of Houston will only see Cat 1 strength wind. Building code requires that buildings here be built to withstand Cat 2 wind (120 MPH).

I’m riding this one out – it’s a little scary, but I expect the worst that will happen to me is that I’ll have some broken windows in my apartment. By Sunday morning Ike is probably going to be a TS or TD in Arkansas – the airport will be open, I’m sure.

by false cognate on Sep 11, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why should they thier the MLB

Been screwed up since the Blacksox issue

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Sep 11, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Relax

How do you know MLB is sitting on their hands? The Cubs can’t do anything until after tonight’s games. As we all know, hurricanes can be unpredictable. MLB surely will wait until the last minute to make a decision. They don’t want to make an early decision to cost Houston the revenue.

I’m sure the Cubs will be talking to MLB before they head to Houston. Let’s wait until tonight to flip out over this.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The fact that they don't already have something in place

The fact that they have been even considering playing the game in Houston tomorrow with a Hurricane on its way. Both of those show an extreme lack of judgment and common-sense by MLB.

Even if they are waiting to the last minute, they should already have a fully-formed backup plan in case of something like this. Its not as if it was totally unforeseeable – we’ve been talking about it here for about a week now.

by SuperContext on Sep 11, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you know what they have and haven't considered?

They may be working on a few options and may wait until the last minute to decide. Lots of people jumped here on here saying St Louis. Well if the hurricane heads that way, that’s not a good move.

I beat on Bud a lot but I’m not beating him on this one yet. Let’s see what they decide. Just because they haven’t posted what they propose on BCB doesn’t mean they aren’t working alternatives.

Somehow I suspect that Hendry or someone from the Cubs has been talking to MLB about this.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for sanity

Amen.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, we're all insane

It’s well known that the most sensible way to deal with a hurricane is to rush toward it.

Truthfully, I’m sure the Cubs players and staff will be fine. But forcing employees who work at the ballpark to forego a recommended evacuation due to what is supposed to be a very nasty storm is reckless and irresponsible.

by SuperContext on Sep 11, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just dont understand

how these people who run this sport can never seem to get their act together. Good god, you would think that this would be something that could be discussed at the winter meetings so they could have a roll out plan.

Its about as stupid as Bud saying that the best record in baseball cant have home field advantage in the world series because there would not be enough time to coordinate all the travel and other items. Well you dont know who is the world series untl the league series are played anyway.

We as the fans of baseball on this blog could run this league better than these guys!

Let go cubs

by cubsfaninkc on Sep 11, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

People are beating on them for a decision they haven’t even made yet. I’m not saying they will make the right one but I don’t understand all this gnashing of teeth when nothing has been decided yet.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Bud the Dud Selig shall fail again...

Friday and Saturday games cancelled. Double header on Sunday, game on Monday. At least that is the tentative plan. Assinine. The coastal area of Texas is going to get pummeled, to include a potential 15 foot storm surge. Yet Bud the Dud Selig still thinks the Astros and Cubs should press on at Minute Maid Park while the good people of Texas face devastation. How does this prick Selig maintain employment year after year?

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL....you played baseball...

you should know the process by which the commissioner of baseball is hired/retained.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now your going to defend the lack of leadership and incompetency of Bud Selig...

All in the name of being contrarian to every single point I raise.

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't defending it at all.

He was agreeing with you.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I LOVE MDBNIU.

Love him.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When would the Cubs fly in

Sunday – No way can you fly in then play 2

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by parrotinct on Sep 11, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is the tentative plan according to the sports report I heard on WBBM 780 here in Chicago

I presume if they can’t fly into Houston then Bud the Dud Selig will tell the Cubs to take long bus ride from the nearest available open airport, presumbly Dallas Ft. Worth.

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A 250 mile bus ride?

Yeah, that’s real smart.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SEND THEM TO HOTLANTA

I am THERE if they go!

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 11, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston Chronicle....

Astros owner Drayton McLane expects to learn about noon today how the club will proceed for Friday’s series opener against the Chicago Cubs at Minute Maid Park.

As of 10 a.m., McLane said the Cubs were still expected to fly in tonight, but the key will be fans’ safety. McLane said the team is working closely with the emergency management services.

“The most important thing is people’s safety. We’re trying to do what is best for all our fans and their families. We’ll know more later today,” McLane said.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fans' safety?

What about team employees and visiting players?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No mention of that...lol

The article did say that evacuation of Houston has begun….

Nobody cares about your fantasy league baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, yeah, baseball should be the last thing on people's minds...

Hurricane Ike’s turn toward the Houston area spurred emergency officials today to call for a mandatory evacuation of residents in areas that will be subject to a massive storm surge.

Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas also expanded the evacuation order there to cover the entire island. In addition, Chambers County, which initially had ordered only the evacuation of low-lying businesses and homes, this morning ordered the entire county to evacuate by noon, and a voluntary evacuation has been called for in Liberty County.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, crisis of leadership in the form of Bud Selig rears its ugly head...

The city of Houston and south Texas is bracing for a multi-billion dollar catastrophe and probable loss of life. Yet Bud the Dud Selig REFUSES to intervene. Under no circumstances should the Cubs board an airplane or a friggin bus to travel to Houston Texas.

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The highways sir, they appear to be.....JAMMED.

 I’ve lost the bleeps, the sweeps, and the creeps.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only one person would dare use Raspberry Jam on me...

LONE STAR!!!!

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what do you do here?

Moichandising!

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 11, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blame Major League Baseball for not intervening....

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And George Bush.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Canada

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 11, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Immigants! I knew it was them!

Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 11, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just heard that the Air Force has moved out of Houston

If the military can’t stick it out, the clubs, fans and employees shouldn’ t have to either.

by sdurst on Sep 11, 2008 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs are going to play a DH

ON AN OFF DAY BEFORE THEIR biggest series of the Year? The players Union has to step in. I have friend who runs the film series in the Museum of Fine Arts. They will have to cancel 5 rare films flown in from Italy this weekend. Play a game in St. Louis Friday. If after the game or early Sat Houston does not get hit move there for either Sat, Sunday games or single games on Sunday /Monday.

I also think City officials have to step in. How do schedule a major public event while advising many people to leave town.

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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 11, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Best idea yet.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The weather in STL is going to prohibit

this but I am all for the Neutral Site concept..

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One word, then.

Atlanta.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot imagine they will play in Houston

based on this MSNBC article I just pulled up.

A few quotes:

Mandatory evacuations were also ordered for tens of thousands of people in low-lying areas in Harris County, where Houston is located.

That alone means don’t come here if you’re not already here.

Flights were also being disrupted. American Airlines is canceling all flights in and out of Houston’s Intercontinental airport as of noon Friday and all day Saturday.

Southwest is canceling all flights in and out of Houston’s Hobby airport as of Friday morning.

Even if they decide to try to play in Houston, will they even get out of St. Louis in time?

If current projections of the storm’s path hold up, the area surrounding Houston — home to about 4 million people — would be lashed by the eastern or “dirty” side of the storm…….This stronger side of the storm often packs heavy rains, walloping storm surge and tornadoes.

C’mon! Do you really need to think about this?

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by tony412 on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only problem is...

The Cubs flight is tonight after the game, so it would fall before the “noon deadline”. And, seriously, if MLB STILL flies them in to a freaking Hurricane Zone for a freaking game…..oh boy.

This is really starting to piss me off.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but I'm thinking by then

there has to be all sorts of delays with priority getting flights out, rather than in. I agree, it’s upsetting.

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by tony412 on Sep 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just throwing this out there...

So the current plan is to scrap Friday and Saturday, hope everything is OK then play 3 games Sunday and Monday. Which is fine, I guess, IF (big if) the storm passes without incident.

So why not find an alternate site (Atlanta, KC… wherever) for game one of the series only? Play it Friday night or Saturday afternoon and compensate the Astros somehow for lost revenue. If everything turns out OK in Houston, travel back for games 2 and 3 on Sunday night and Monday afternoon. If (God forbid) something does happen in Houston, the teams are already at the alternate site to complete the series (which, at that point, should be the last thing on everyone’s mind).

Seems to me to be a little more proactive than the “let’s just hope for the best” stance of the current plan.

by hokie316 on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Makes...

…way too much sense for MLB to consider. Let’s just roll the dice on a hurricane and see what happens.

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by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If both team get stuck in Houston

that would hurt both teams chances down the strech. Imagine the Cubs flying in, the stadium is damaged, the airport is closed. They can’t play in Houston and they can’t leave. This could cause problems with the series afterward. If there plan is to have the games sunday and monday, get the at least get the astros out of Houston and that way if they can’t play on Sunday they are not trapped in Houston. OR BETTER YET JUST PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember what happened to the Rays in 2004?

They got stuck in Tampa because of hurricanes and came very close to having to forfeit a game at Yankee Stadium simply because the team plane couldn’t take off. The airport in Houston would probably be open by Monday, but still, why take that risk? In addition to all the other risks mentioned here?

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by hip2bsquare on Sep 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This could be a PR nightmare for MLB

What if another Katrina happens and something horrible happens at the juice box (like the roof caving in). There will be talk of MLB being greedy and putting making money ahead of the safety of everyone involded.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There already is.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was before a hurricane was even thought of possible

for that matter…

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I cannot overemphasize the danger that is facing us." - TX Gov. Rick Perry

Gov. Perry, please call Bud NOW!

McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket

by Goat Whisperer on Sep 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But first....call FEMA and the ACOE.

Don’t wait until the 2nd day AFTER the Hurricane has passed.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Id actually have called FEMA a week ago...

so they’d get there in October

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 11, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You realize of course...

that FEMA (a federal entity) can’t unilaterally decide to show up in a state and start helping don’t you? The constitution kinda says the federal government can’t do stuff like that without the states permission or request….so I’ll give you 3 guesses why FEMA wasn’t on the scene faster during the Katrina debacle.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only get 3?

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 11, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Besides

FEMA is suppose to be aftercare, not first response.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BINGO

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they did a heckuva job of it

Heckuva job.

By the way, is there any truth to the rumor that Bud Selig is lobbying both candidates for the job as FEMA’s director in the next administration?

by SuperContext on Sep 11, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Too qualified

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 11, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have literally been in over 20 typhoons / hurricanes

The last place you want to hold an evacuation, let alone a relatively meaningless ball game, is in a place like this. Anyone want to volunteer to camp out under the glass?

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by Goat Whisperer on Sep 11, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, they want to use that as an evacuation shelter?

What happens when wind blows out all the glass?

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kite flying contests.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Devil's advocate

They’ll all probably be in the concourse areas if it is used as a shelter.

Also, the windows are probably shatterproof Lexan – everything built in Houston is required to withstand Cat 2 wind (120 MPH).

I’ve got my tix for Friday and Saturday, but I’m hoping for the DH Sunday with a makeup game on Monday.

by false cognate on Sep 11, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

The park does have open concourses….

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 11, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this one might be a Cat 3.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This entire situation is asinine. Does Bud think he

csn send a team into a hurricane evacuation area? When they are moving everyone out? The man is amazing!

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would i get to see a baseball game?

or get to hang out with the cubs, since they’ll be stuck in there, too?

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riot, Fontenot, and Gaudin...

…could always cook up some gumbo for the refugees.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a scenario question:

Let’s assume the games get called completely to be played at a later date. Let’s also assume, in this later date, three games don’t matter for the Cubs as they’re already in the playoffs. Do they send minor leaguers to rest the team, or play hard since the games would matter to the Stros?

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The integrity of the game

Would force them to at least make a token effort.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 11, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's take off the Stros Business hat for a minute

and put on the MLB Business Hat.

In my mind the, the Cubs having the better legs to stand on from a monatery perpsective.

If the cubs refuse to go and they have to forfeit, that hurts their playoff chances(No guarantees that they are not going to get swepted if they do play). We hope they still make it..but ya never know. MLB would be risking a big revenue source for the playoffs. The Cubs stand to bring in more revenue to MLB during the playoffs then the Crew or the Stros do.

The Cubs should refuse to go and leverage off of this in addition to obvious safety concerns. If MLB were smart business people, they would listen to the Cubs refusals to go before the listen to the Stros protests to play in houston.

Just play it at a neutral site for christ sake…Don’t play Chicken with God

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by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little biased

I live in Houston and am dying to go the games this weekend. The Astros still haven’t announced anything. I figured they were waiting for the latest storm update at 1 p.m., but that was 45 minutes ago.
To correct one earlier point, Houston has not begun evacuations. Some of the southeast part of the county is under voluntary evac because the storm surge could reach them, but Houston itself won’t get washed out. The hurricane now looks like it will be a strong Category 2 or weak 3 when it hits Friday night. There will be tropical storm force winds Friday afternoon about the time they’d play at 1 p.m. No way they’re playing at 7. By Saturday afternoon, it should all be over with. But even if the weather is fine, the area will be pretty chaotic. There will be debris all over. Some roads will be closed. We may not have power. I think the chance of them playing tomorrow is pretty slim, but they could still get the team to Houston (and lodge them safely in downtown or north of town) and have them play Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Or a doubleheader Sunday, which I would love. Right now, I’m rooting for no game Friday because I’d have to work during the afternoon game, but I’d hate to see them move the series. Still, the bottom line is I don’t care where they play as long as they win.

by goldglove on Sep 11, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Besides

There’s another really important reason to keep the game on — postgame kolache eating contest.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/hoffman/5994512.html

by goldglove on Sep 11, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My Flight

to Houston has been officially canceled as of about 5 mins ago.

when asked about his performance against the Reds - Lieber said the following
"Well obviously I made some bad pitches today, left to many over the plate and they got good wood on the ball. The only good thing was that I was able to get back into the clubhouse earlier then I planned so I could eat."

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 11, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got done talking to the boss, whose parents live in SW Houston

Apparently, they’re one zip code away from evacuation. Plus, if the hurricane comes through Houston, anyone wanting to go to a game would have to cross the evacuation routes to get into downtown.

Doesn’t sound too promising.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN News update

Carlos Zambrano will not be on a ptich count Satuday in Houston.

Hell, worry about the game being played at all, not the ptich count, get the real story

Too many TALKIN HEADS on ESPN

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Sep 11, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They need to decide already

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/09/11/hurricane.ike.texas/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

when asked about his performance against the Reds - Lieber said the following
"Well obviously I made some bad pitches today, left to many over the plate and they got good wood on the ball. The only good thing was that I was able to get back into the clubhouse earlier then I planned so I could eat."

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 11, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reverse Highways

Does not seem condusive to travel into the area unless the Houston Airport is in downtown Houston

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by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the Electricity "Stupid"

Unless there is a coal or nuclear power plant next to the Houston ballpark, there might no be any electricity for the facility. Yes Bud, you need electricity to run the lights, fans, scoreboard. Even if the hurricane goes south, enough electrical lines could be knocked out by the wind so that there won’t be any power to the park. As mentioned elsewhere by my fine BCB brethern, “get a clue”.

I want my Macias!

by wombat on Sep 11, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yea

Forgot to mention the airport. They need electricity to operate also.

I want my Macias!

by wombat on Sep 11, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...I am sure that the Airport

has Generators to support the tower, navigation aids, runway lights, etc. Need to support basic functions in the even that you have an approaching aircraft that needs to land.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's officially getting bad in Houston - symphony canceled

Just got a report that the Houston Symphony has been canceled Saturday night. FWIW, it’s right next to Minute Maid Park.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, not the symphony!!!!!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 11, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they're canceling symphony tickets

you know they’re losing money on that one. and that they’d like people to leave town. so why doesn’t drayton take the hint?

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, and they were just about to open a public library there

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Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

for the “Dead Men Wear Plaid” reference.

side note: in the movie it was my hometown.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Terre Haute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Da Da!!!!!!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one and the same

I lived the first 28 years of my life there.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only city ever destroyed by a block of stinky cheese!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The cheese probably

smeeled better. If you’ve been to Terre Haute you know what I’m talking about.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They pronounced it wrong in "Family Affair."

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they pronounced it right

in “A Christmas Story”

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Jean Shepherd was probably in Terre Haute at some point in his life...

home of the minor league team Terre Haute Hottentots-go Tots

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Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hottentots

wasn’t that in like the 1930’s?

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

I’ve been doing some research on them because one of my uncles played for them in the 40s but by then I think they were the Phillies. No one who I’ve spoken to can remember the Tots. I was always told he played for a Yankees farm club but I can’t find any record of TH being in the Yankees organization.

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Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

it was a phillies farm club because I once remember reading about it in the paper.

"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"

by MerlinDog on Sep 11, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to the last game at Memorial Stadium before they tore it down and rebuilt

it as the ISU football field but I don’t remember anything about the game; only that they let everyone run the bases afterwards.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would say he's the standard-bearer

by which all others are judged.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was in STL last night.............

………….and aside from what appears to be wet weather in that area for the next few days, Stella Stadium is going to be occupied with other events on the evenings of Friday and Saturday.

I have a few friends who work security there and we chatted last night about the overall situation. No way the Cards/Busch can cancel these events, so the scheduling of the games would be interesting to say the least.

Just another twist on this already crazed situation.

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by tville on Sep 11, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gordo's Twitter a few minutes ago:
Waiting word from MLB on Houston plans but doesn’t look good. If they go in, they’re going w/out me — flight canceled, g-dub ducking.

Dan

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by dtpollitt on Sep 11, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All signs point to Cubs

not going

When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo

by gwood on Sep 11, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs

are going to fly back to Chicago after tonight’s game and await word on where the game will be played.

When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo

by gwood on Sep 11, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What that means is...

… likely no games will be played, as it will probably be impossible to even GET to Houston before late Sunday. Maybe they’ll try a DH on Monday.

Should have moved to a neutral site.

Friday’s game officially postponed

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I love is that

this article says…

The Astros hope to reschedule this game sometime later in the Season. There are 3 freaking weeks left and we don’t have anymore offdays.

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by TheRiot Police on Sep 11, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the more time the MLB takes to make up its mind

The closer Ike (who the hell came up with that name?) gets to Houston….

Makes sense to me

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by Galvan316 on Sep 11, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I only hope the next male Hurricane is called "Neifi."

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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 11, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

it will be Kyle as in Farnsworth. Here is a list of all future hurricane names for 2008
http://geography.about.com/od/physicalgeography/a/2008names.htm

when asked about his performance against the Reds - Lieber said the following
"Well obviously I made some bad pitches today, left to many over the plate and they got good wood on the ball. The only good thing was that I was able to get back into the clubhouse earlier then I planned so I could eat."

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 11, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're named in Puerto Rico, I believe.

Which is why a good portion of them are Hispanic names.

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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're supposed to be...

… using English, French and Spanish names, since the vast majority of areas affected by hurricanes use those three languages.

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by Al on Sep 11, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The World Meterogical Organization does, silly

Which is in Switzerland, apparently. Check here

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to commend everyone here

for not using a certain overused NASA phrase in relation to this, ahem, problem.

Way to be, folks.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 11, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cluster f**k?

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 11, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?

South Texas, we have a situation?

Texas, we have some trouble?

Ground control to Major Tom?

I just don’t get it.

by SuperContext on Sep 11, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ground control to Major Tom.

Nicely done.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 11, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston, we have a polyp?

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 11, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friday's game is postponed without a makeup date

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5995567.html

I have tickets for Saturday, but I don’t see the Cubs flying to Houston, nor the Astros flying out. Commercial flights at Hobby will be shutting down tonight and Intercontinental will be shutting down tomorrow morning.

by DaveinHouston on Sep 11, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see any games being played before Monday, if then.

Unless they decide tomorrow to try to move the series to a neutral site.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your right...

…there has probably been a deal struck to see how significant the damage is before they rule out playing a double header on Monday in Houston. If the damage is bad enouph, I’ll bet Houston has said they would agree to play on Monday and possibly Sunday (if they can get out) at a neutral site.

I would imagine with most of Houston’s players having family in the area, they want to give them the opportunity to be with them during the height of the storm (which appears to be late Friday or early Saturday).

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now this, if true...

… is the first thing I’ve heard about this situation today that actually makes some sense.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Sunday night

If the damage isn’t too severe, then a DH on Monday, but I probably shouldn’t be worrying about baseball right now…

by DaveinHouston on Sep 11, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Players Union

I doubt will let a team fly in and play same day

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Sep 11, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't they allow the Cubs to do just that in 2004,

when they flew into Miami to play a double header with the Marlins?

Can’t remember if they flew in the same day or the night before.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Sep 11, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was the night before.

They had played a day game in Cincinnati on Sunday 9/19, flew to Miami, played the DH on Monday, then flew out to play a night game in Pittsburgh on Tuesday.

In this situation, I suspect they could play a DH in Houston on Monday, but ONLY if the Cubs could get there Sunday night.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had tickets for the series.

I was planning on driving in from San Angelo (6.5 hours west) Friday morning and spend two nights in… I mean at the Hilton about two blocks away. I checked with the hotel this afternoon and they notified me that they will not be open. They are also evacuating the city. Now I’m just stuck with some tickets. Been waiting years to see the Cubs play again.

by ArmyCubFan on Sep 11, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Possible Impact on Chicago Games 9/16 through 9/21

Another thing to keep in mind is the impact this storm may have on weather in the Chicago area. The 5 day storm track shows the storm heading to the north and east. Looks like it’ll pass south and east of Chicago but could impact weather in Chicago during the final home stand of the season (or St. Louis for that matter).

I remember the cloud formations of Hurricane Gilbert (?) passing through Chicago when I was a kid.

by mph3 on Sep 11, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Haven't read all posts

But shouldn’t Houston and MLB be considering using the stadium since its domed as a shelter for people who might lose housing?

Seems like a huge place and a much larger concern than a baseball game…

by ak123 on Sep 11, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You didn't miss much

lots of panicking and posturing over decisions that hadn’t been made yet.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Does everyone feel better? No need for panic. MLB isn’t requiring the Cubs to fly into the hurricane. They are returning to Chicago after tonight’s game.

I’d hate to see the panic if the Cubs lost a few games. Oh, sorry we already have :-)

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrigley

Can’t they move the games up to Chicago and force half of the crowd to root for the Astros?

It’d be funny to see them hand out Astros gear to 20,000 random ‘winners’.

But in quasi-seriousness, you could move the games to Chicago, and have nearly all the proceeds go back to Astros, and I’d be hard pressed to imagine that such a series wouldn’t be nearly packed even at the last minute.

Moving these games is really the only logical thing to do, I don’t like the fact at all that the games will be postponed and the Cubs will likely have to play at least one double-header down the stretch and/or have to play games after the season would normally have ended. It is unfair to both teams to have to undergo more difficult schedules down the stretch.

I know that it’s a legitimate concern for the Astros that they would lose money on 3 likely sell-outs, but these things happen. Move the games, give the Astros the lions share of the revenues for the re-located games, and call it a day. Doesn’t the league have money set aside that they can draw from for extreme emergency situations such as this?

by WittyUserName on Sep 11, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well for one reason...

I don’t think anyone is going to want to ask the Astros to fly off to Chicago tonight and leave their families behind in the hurricane’s path…

by DaveinHouston on Sep 11, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Leave it to Bud...

He’s known all week that this storm is heading right towards Houston, yet he sits on his hands and does nothing. Now, it’s too late to move it to a neutral site. Even if they play a game Sunday- there will be likely be hardly anyone there- because of the evacuation in Houston. More so, with the storm likely to blanket Houston/Galveston, who’s to say that they will even be able to play a game Sunday or Monday?

It should have been moved to a neutral site at the least two days ago… So, either Selig is an idiot & the worst commish ever, or it’s a conspiracy. I’m hoping that the Brewers get swept in their 4 game series in Philly, and then they will be so out of it, the games vs. the Cubs that they have left will mean nothing.

Bud Selig must go. Save MLB, fire Selig!!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 11, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not true

Earlier this week, the storm was variously pointed to the Reo Grande Valley and Corpus. It could still miss Houston. These things can’t be predicted accurately and there’s always a tension between safety and economics. You can’t put a halt to business activity along 600 miles of coastline every time there’s a hurricane in the Gulf. You think the price of gas is bad now?

by DaveinHouston on Sep 11, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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