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MLB postpones the first two games of the Houston Series

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I do not understand why they cannot go to a neutral site such as St. Louis. They could even have it in their home state of Texas in Arlington since the Rangers are out of town this weekend. Another blunder by Selig here (or conspiracy!). Besides, they have to make up two games, and the Cubs have only one off day. I don't want the Cubs playing a double header on Monday..

Seriously, does Selig think it is worth it to send the Cubs through this?!?!

 

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And if you look at Google Earth on the weather function, the entire storm is engulfing atleast 3/4 of the Gulf of Mexico

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Leave it to Bud...

He’s known all week that this storm is heading right towards Houston, yet he sits on his hands and does nothing. Now, it’s too late to move it to a neutral site. Even if they play a game Sunday- there will be likely be hardly anyone there- because of the evacuation in Houston. More so, with the storm likely to blanket Houston/Galveston, who’s to say that they will even be able to play a game Sunday or Monday?

It should have been moved to a neutral site at the least two days ago… So, either Selig is an idiot & the worst commish ever, or it’s a conspiracy. I’m hoping that the Brewers get swept in their 4 game series in Philly, and then they will be so out of it, the games vs. the Cubs that they have left will mean nothing.

Bud Selig must go. Save MLB, fire Selig!!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 11, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And hurricanes never change course?

Gustav was supposed to slam into New Orleans. Did it? Selig couldn’t postpone a week ago.

Today’s hurricane posts have been a big gnashing of teeth over nothing. Moving games is a big decision. Should baseball move games if a late snowstorm threatens a northern city and there is the threat for cancellation of a few games?

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snowstorms are not hurricanes.

All the forecasters have been saying for two days that it is heading straight toward Houston. I said he has known all week, (that’s since Monday). Selig once has failed to make a decision, hoping that if he ignored the obvious, somehow the decision would be made for him. When an entire city is being evacuated, it’s not such a big deal to move a baseball game.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 11, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus snowstorms don't look like this

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 11, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurricanes change course all the time.....

This one is so big….even a change of course isn’t enough to prevent Houston from having a fairly major storm.

I’m not predicting gloom and doom or anything….but Houston hasn’t had a storm for a while….I don’t think we’ll see any big losses of life or the numbing images we saw from New Orleans…..BUT….this isn’t going to be a walk in hte park….you get the feeling that Houston thinks it’s going to have a rainstorm on Saturday and it’s back to business as usual on Sunday…..that’s what I mean they are in for a rude awakening…..it’s going to take 3-5 days + to get power restored, traffic signals back up and operating, tree branches and palm fronds cleaned up and what not. All those stop lights hanging up above intersections on wires and going to be smashed to the ground EVEN WITH just CAT 1 force winds…CAT2 or 3 …many of them on the steel girders will be damaged.

In 2004 MLB moved games out of Miami for Hurricane Jean. Hurricane Jean made landfall nearly 100 miles north of of Dolphin Stadium.

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 11, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Making a calculated move to a neutral site makes sense. I was more commenting on the comments that Selig should have moved this a week ago.

by rlpete on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he couldn't postpone

But you can’t tell me that they couldn’t have worked something out, such as booking hotel rooms, putting stadium employees on notice, whatever else needs to be done to play in Atlanta or Dallas or whichever empty MLB park was agreed upon IF NECESSARY.

There is such a thing as contingency planning. If the hurricane changed course at the last minute, then play in Houston. If not, go to Plan B. The complaint is that in this case, Plan B seems to be “wing it.”

This is no different than the ridiculous lie that it is “impossible” for the team with the best record to have homefield in the World Series.

by SuperContext on Sep 12, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOUSTON AREA CUB FANS

I had tickets to Saturday’s game. I live in Austin and can’t just take off on a whim to go to Houston for a ballgame whenever they decide to reschedule the game. So, I have my 2 tickets available if you would like to buy them.

Section 234 Row 2 Seats 13 and 14

They’re printable tickets, so I can email them to you once I get payment.

I just want face value, which is $44 each. I may even cut you a break if you make me a reasonable offer.

My email is
Scott(dot)terres(at)Gmail(dot)com

by ScottT on Sep 11, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um Sat in Cancelled

They should have info on refunds posted later. Alas they never refund all those fun service fees

Good luck

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 11, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I called them

and they said they won’t give a refund, because the game is being postponed so not technically canceled. They said my ticket would be good for the rescheduled game, but that won’t do me much good if it’s on Monday, cuz I gotta work.

by ScottT on Sep 11, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXCUSE ME

All rain outs are POSTPONED GAMES. At the LEAST they have to give you CREDIT for NEXT year
but this is a JOKE. Cubs do or at least have given refunds on rain outs.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 11, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really need to final a complaint with State AG

I looked at my Cubs tickets and indeed the old rain out policy is missing. It says check Cubs
web site I checked the Cubs AND the Astros and I can’t find ANY information on cancelled games. There very likely is some state regulation on this and it is worth checking into. NO WAY
you should eat that money.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 11, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conspiracy

You have to be kidding.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was being sarcastic..

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 11, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous

Why can’t the games just be scheduled for a neutral site? If this were April or May, the postponement wouldn’t seem such a bad idea. But with just three weeks left in the season, it’s not fair to give the Cubs and Astros several days off in a row for their players to get rusty. And forcing them to make up with a doubleheader seems unfair as well.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 11, 2008 6:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at the storm track above

St. Louis will have rain, probably on Sunday. No point in sending both teams there, only to have the game rained out.

Arlington makes more sense, IMHO.

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on Sep 11, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ummm...

Won’t Arlington get rain too? Seems anyplace in the south-central region of the country is gonna get slammed.

"Let's not get giggly." - Lou

by tdubcub on Sep 11, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be a defender

But being that I work in Sports Entertainment these sort of decisions just don’t get made until the final moment. It’s beyond baseball and revenue. TV stations need to know if they can send out a crew, the stadium needs to see if they have people who are willing to even work that day, etc.

They will make a decision the last possible minute because they can and it’s not affecting anyone until that happens. This happens in every sport for every team in these situations….relax.

by ak123 on Sep 11, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

relax my a$$

This has been a known problem all week. There are 18 days in the baseball season left and every race in the NL to be decided. The contingency plan should have been made on Monday and executed first thing this morning. They didn’t and it wasn’t. Bud Selig is a terrible commissioner who botched the steriod situation tremendously and this is simply another botch. This series should have been moved to Atlanta and should be played as scheduled; Friday thru Sunday plain and simple.
As far as a conspiracy is concerned, isn’t Bud from Milwaulkee? Won’t it put the Cubs at a disadvantage playing 16 games in the final 15 days (10 on the road)? Oh, and coincidentally 6 of the games during the over worked span vs. Bud’s Brewers. I think I smell something?

by thisisitflyfishing on Sep 11, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now I know what Jay Marriotti is doing these day...

…he’s ripping Selig under a number of screen names on BCB—LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DudeVf11 on Sep 11, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are in the minority

It’s more fun to rant and rave about it. This is as bad as the ledge jumping.

by rlpete on Sep 11, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is stupid

To not know what is going to happen today is just plain stupid. To not have Atlanta or Florida or DC ready is silly.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 11, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's what the Cubs do

First, they get back to winning games and essentially wrap up the NL Central. Next, when it comes time to play this three game set against Houston (and it won’t be on Monday given the expected damage caused by Hurricane Ike and Tina) then run out our Triple A callups and guys like Daryl Ward. If Houston ends up sweeping us, then so what. They win the wildcard and Milwaukee goes home. We’ll be sticking it to Bud the Dud Selig and his beloved Milwaukee Brewers who is trying to accomodate by not moving this weekend’s series out of harm’s way.

Cubs win, Astros win, Selig lose, Brewers lose.

This isn't 1969...is this 1969?...this isn't 1969, is it?

by MDBNIU on Sep 11, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

zzzz

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 11, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect...

… some of this series will be played at a neutral site on Saturday and/or Sunday… most likely site(s): Atlanta or Washington.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well I'm supposted to have tickets to the Braves/phillies game someday soon

maybe I can get em switched since they were from a school thing and I technically don’t have the tickets yet? :)

by cubsfaninatl on Sep 11, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nationals Park

Please!

There is one potential issue with DC. The park is committed to do a simulcast on Saturday night on the big screen for the opening of the Washington Opera.

http://www.dc-opera.org/experience/accessinitiatives/simulcasts.asp

by 08Cubs on Sep 11, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could do an afternoon game there

Couldn’t they? Im sure they could clean the place out before the opera.

Still think the smart money is on Atlanta.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll clean it out personally if necessary.

What venue could possibly be better than the newest ballpark in the majors?

by 08Cubs on Sep 11, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could play there Sunday, right?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 12, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Affirmative

The Redskins are home on Sunday, so we could have the place to ourselves.

by 08Cubs on Sep 12, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, please, please, please DC!

McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket

by Goat Whisperer on Sep 12, 2008 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

one game on Sunday in Atlanta. Then back to Houston for two on Monday, assuming the damage isn’t too great. Otherwise, two in Atlanta.

I’m betting on Atlanta because 1) the Astros are supposed to play the Marlins on Tuesday, and if they can’t play in Houston, it’s a shorter flight for them and 2) there’s a 20% chance of Rain in Atlanta and a 30% of rain in DC on Monday. Both cities are expected to be clear on Sunday.

And even if it wasn’t out because of Houston’s objections, St. Louis would be out because it’s supposed to pour all weekend there.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoping for Washington

Will totally make the drive to see that one!

by ak123 on Sep 12, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 12, 2008 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote for Washington as well

especially since its a two-hour drive away.

by va cubsfan on Sep 12, 2008 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can get there in less than an hour :-)

I agree Washington weather is looking nice after Saturday morning.

by rlpete on Sep 12, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington Host Committee

I’m kind of tempted to immediately form a candidate host site committee to lobby for this, just like the Olympics.

by 08Cubs on Sep 12, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect they'll play 1 or if possible, 2 games, Monday.

One or two games will be left to be played at the end of the season, if necessary. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they can play before late Monday. My experience is that even basic hurricane recovery (clear downtown roads and restore power to the ballpark) takes more than 24 hours. And to think this could have been avoided if they had made the right decision today. They should have taken the players and their families to Atlanta, play Saturday and Sunday there, and play the third game in Houston late Monday, if possible.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 12, 2008 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On my way to Houston still....

I still plan on making it to Houston on Sunday and hope they still play. My plan pre-Hurricane Ike was to be at both Sat and Sunday games. Now I am making a detour to San Antonio for Friday and Saturday nights then driving to Houston Sunday morning to see the whole Cubs-Astros Series…hopefully!

by KC in OK on Sep 11, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Turn around NOW

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 11, 2008 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Astros

are insisting that all games be played in Houston. Apparently MLB is at least considering a Monday double-header and playing the third game on the Monday after the season if necessary. Link

I’ve got to believe that this is just the Astros blowing out smoke. I fully understand MLB and the Astros wanting to play as many games as possible in Houston. I even agree with that.

But this plan is just asinine. First, it wouldn’t save the revenue for the Astros unless the game gets replayed after the season. Second of all, it’s incredibly unfair to Milwaukee, St. Louis and Philadelphia.

Why? Because the game isn’t likely to matter for the Cubs. Our magic number for clinching a playoff spot is down to 8. You don’t have playoffs for ties if both teams would make the post-season, so two teams would have to catch us for that game to be meaningful to us.

But for the Astros, who are just three games out of the wild card, that extra game might be crucial. If they end up a half game ahead or behind Milwaukee (or Philly or StL) for the wild card, then the game would have to be replayed. And the Cubs would almost certainly give the start to Randy Wells and probably have a starting lineup of the Iowa Cub all-stars. (Sure, tradition dictates you play your starters. I’d argue: Not in this case.) It’s nearly a guaranteed win for the Astros, which is why I’m betting they are pushing it.

I know everyone thinks we ought to move the entire series to St. Louis or Milwaukee. That’s not going to happen and I think that would be unfair to the Astros. But this plan is out and out worse. Plan to play Sunday in Atlanta (or DC) and then on Sunday, decide whether a DH can be played in Houston or in the neutral city. But do not give the Astros a free game in their wild card chase.

I know I’m alone, but I think Bud Selig is too smart to go along with this cockamamie scheme.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 12, 2008 2:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Astros are apparently being uncooperative

They don’t want to play in St. Louis because the Cubs wouldn’t have to travel
They don’t want to play in Milwaukee because it is too close to Chicago

They don’t want to play anywhere else because they will lose some revenue. I don’t understand why they just can’t suck it up and move to a neutral site. Its rediculous for them to care more about money than doing the right thing (though this wouldn’t be the first time in the history of the world that it has happened)

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 12, 2008 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and this is where leadership is needed

but is sorely missing. Thank you Bud Light; head up your ass just like you’ll be when it comes time for new Cubs ownership approval.

Like I mentioned before: MLB =/= brains =/= do the right thing

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 12, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another dumb part of moving games to end of season

Here’s something to throw out there.

Cubs wrap up division before hitting milwaukee to finish season,

Milwaukee and Houston still fighting for wild card.

If Astros still are in hunt those games need to be played.

It would then behoove the Cubs that the Brewers win those games so the Cubs don’t have to go to Houston before playoffs.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 12, 2008 5:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And let us get this out right now...

If that situation comes to pass…

The Cubs owe the Brewers, Phillies, Cardinals or any other wild card team NOTHING!

If the Cubs have clinched, then Sean Marshall starts. Blanco, Ward, Hoffpair, Pie, Cedeno and Fontenot start.

We owe other teams NOTHING!

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Sep 12, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps Selig's Brewer bias will kick in

His brain fog may clear, and he’ll see the advantages to the other wild card contenders of playing the weekend games now at a neutral site. The power will be out in Houston at least for the weekend….that’s a given. And public relations impact of playing in Houston on Monday after folks have been devestated in the area would be too much on the league.

by Cajuncub on Sep 12, 2008 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Contigency Plan.

Even though a Hurricane is unpredictable, MLB and the Stros should have had a contigency plan started on Monday of this week. They should have had another site picked out for the games, had the staff ready and available to man the site, had the players and their family out of houston and at this site by Saturday AM. Play games on Saturday night. If Houston is saved major damage, play sunday and monday. If not, play Sunday at the Neutral Site. Re-evaluate again, if okay, play a game in houston on Monday. If not, finish up the series at the Neutral Site. Hoping that everything is okay is not strategy or a plan.

Just bad management to not have a plan given the unpredictable nature of a hurricane.

Heck, MLB should have general guidelines setup to handle this situation given that they have several teams that are in Hurricane Country.

I could care less where we play…just play the games.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 12, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Has there ever been a tripleheader???

That would be cool if cubs made history with mlb’s first tripleheader, but I think it’s against labor laws to work more than 8 hours.

by aznsensation on Sep 12, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't be the first

There have been three triple-headers in history, the last being on October 2, 1920 and the other two being September 1, 1890 and September 7, 1896. Of course, back then it usually took less than ninety minutes to play a nine-inning game, so such things were possible to get in before darkness fell.

I don’t know if your comment about labor laws was snark or not, but clearly there is no law prohibiting a triple-header. It would, however, be a violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and thus would be prevented by the rules of baseball. And neither MLB nor the MLBPA would have any reason to waive that rule.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Sep 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like...

…the storm is gaining strength over the gulf and it has a very wide swath. I just don’t see anyway they are playing baseball games in Houston by Monday.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta?

According to a TV station in Atlanta, they’ve confirmed the Cubs and Stros are still considering playing at least 2 games at Turner Field.

http://www.wsbtv.com/sports/17459528/detail.html

by ar_hawkins on Sep 12, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Smart.

They should play day games there Sunday and Monday, and hold the third game till 9/29 if needed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 12, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nasty

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 12, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Sep 12, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shit where do you live?

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 12, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice quote...

whered you get it? lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Sep 12, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cubs

the series should have been moved and played.tampa was mooted as an alternative along with other sites.we need to get these games in.hopefully the phillies keep winning. and let,s all say a prayer for texas and hope they dont suffer too much damage.

by NOMAR on Sep 13, 2008 6:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its always fun looking at posts like these in hindsight..

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 28, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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