History! Cubs' Z No-Hits Astros, 5-0
MILWAUKEE -- It starts with recognition.
Early in the game, by the second inning, you note to yourself, "Hmmm. Z's got really good stuff today. If everything breaks his way..."
It continues with a buzz going through the crowd. You realize that others are starting to think what you're thinking.
And by the sixth inning, people are starting to stand on every strike-two count and cheer for K's, roaring loudly, as if there were twice as many in the ballpark as the announced 23,441, all of whom bought tickets to the game less than 24 hours before game time.
The tension builds through the latter part of the batting order -- I thought in the seventh, to myself, "Wow, if he can get through Tejada, Berkman and Pence, maybe he can pull this one off..."
And Z did that. And the raucous Miller Park crowd -- 99% Cubs fans, a handful of Brewers fans looking lost, and two or three lonely-looking Astros fans who got booed every time one of them appeared on the Jumbotron -- got on its feet for every pitch of the ninth inning. There's nothing like it in a regular-season baseball game, the tension of each out of the ninth inning of a no-hitter.
Carlos Zambrano made that inning look easy. Two groundouts to Ryan Theriot and his tenth K of the night -- on a low, outside splitter to Darin Erstad -- he had his first career no-hitter, a 5-0 win over the Astros, and in my opinion, only Kerry Wood's 20-K game ten years ago was a more dominant pitching performance by a Cub in my lifetime.
You've already heard the numbers: first no-no for a Cub in just over 36 years; first no-hitter ever at a neutral site park; first no-hitter in Miller Park history (that's one that'll stick with Brewers fans forever, I bet) -- you may not have heard that was the first one thrown in Milwaukee since Steve Busby of the Royals no-hit the Brewers on June 19, 1974. It was the eighth no-hitter by a Cubs pitcher since 1900, and the first on the road since Kenny Holtzman's nearly forgotten second no-no in Cincinnati on June 3, 1971. The long ride home gave me a chance to listen to all of the extended postgame coverage on the radio on -- the snappy 2:17 game had me in my house by 11:00 -- and Lou, who sounded excited just to be there, even though he pointed out he had been on both winning and losing sides of no-hitters as a manager and player, mentioned that he had no intention of taking Z out as long as the no-hitter was intact, saying, "I wasn't going out there -- I'd have sent Alan (Trammell) to take him out."
Lou also said he did have someone warming up -- I never did see who -- in the 9th just in case Z had given up a hit. It wasn't necessary. Z's stuff was outstanding -- he hit 98 a couple of times on the stadium pitch speed meter -- and after a slight lack of command in the first inning, had his location and movement working for him on almost every pitch. He walked one -- Michael Bourn, in the fourth, who was immediately erased on a double play -- and hit Pence on a 1-2 pitch in the fifth.
Thinking about how Z can get during games, something like that might have unhinged him. Not last night. He was focused, didn't engage in mound histrionics, and kept his pitch count down (110 pitches, 73 strikes, and if that doesn't sound like "down", remember that we have seen Z throw 100 pitches in five innings at times in the past). Give Geovany Soto some credit for this -- I think he has been a real calming influence on Z ever since his recall, and deserves all the props he can get for handling the entire pitching staff all year like a veteran. Z also singled and scored -- thankfully, the relay throw was bobbled when Z was rounding third, because the last thing any of us wanted to see was Z having to slide into the plate.
Meanwhile, the Cub offense put the game away early; Alfonso Soriano led off the game with a homer, his team-leading 28th of the year (in only 98 games -- he might have come close to Ryan Howard's league-leading total of 44 if he hadn't missed all that time), and after two were out and Z on first and ONEDEC! on second with singles, Derrek Lee brought them in with a two-strike double, Aramis Ramirez followed with a single and then, heads-up, took second base when Tejada tossed the relay throw away, and Geovany Soto finished the scoring with a single.
Leading 5-0, Z got stronger and didn't allow a ball out of the infield between the third and eighth innings. As is frequently the case in no-hitters, there were at least two outstanding defensive plays that helped Z -- a line drive by David Newhan, snared by D-Lee at 1B in the fifth, and a nice running catch by DeRo on Geoff Blum's leadoff liner in the 8th. Z also made a nice pickup of a slow roller by Humberto Quintero in the third and caught a foul popup himself in the 8th.
The crowd was -- well, at first it was surreal, seeing nothing but Cubs blue in the parking lot and coming into the park, prompting a couple of Brewers employees I saw walking in to roll their eyes. But in general, the Brewers folks were friendly and accomodating -- they brought out some Cubs caps to sell at the souvenir stands, along with all the Brewers merchandise on sale -- considering they had been called into work on very short notice, and as Lou said, the 23,441 sounded like twice that many as the game went on, louder than almost any crowd I've heard at Wrigley. It truly was a magical night.
Sitting right in front of me was a young girl, perhaps nine or ten years old, with her mom and a couple of men accompanying her. The men, both of whom were wearing Zambrano jerseys, jumped up and down and hugged perfect strangers afterwards. That young girl, who had a sign saying it was her first Cubs game, will never forget it.
And me? I've now been to 2,069 Cubs games. I'll never forget last night's wonders, either. It was nice to meet BCB reader Chip Set and to see Shanghai Badger again and I know a lot of the rest of you were there and all of us will remember forever the trip we all took on a whim, just to see an unexpected Cubs road game suddenly moved close to us, only to wind up witnesses to an historic day.
Best of all, the win and the Brewers DH loss -- when the second game score was posted on the Miller Park LF wall scoreboard, cheers broke out -- dropped the Cubs' magic number to Rick Monday (for both a playoff spot and the division title). Though we celebrate Z's masterpiece, the business of winning continues this afternoon. The pregame thread will be up at 11:30 am CDT for today's 1:05 start.
Some more memories from last night's historic game:
Randy Wolf's pitch to Alfonso Soriano was deposited over the LF wall, giving the Cubs a 1-0 lead in the first inning
This was Z's first pitch to Darin Erstad in the first inning... two hours later, he struck out Erstad to end his first career no-hitter.
Photos by Al

My ticket from last night's game -- worth every penny of the $60 price
Click here for my scorecard -- figuring they might not sell cards for this game, I brought my own, a form designed by Mike. I have used my own form for a number of years for games like this, but Mike's is better. All I added was the text and team logos, and this was the first game I had used it for.
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Awesome Game!!! I was there too
I wrote my own EyeWitness Account to the most AmaZing game ever! Zambrano-no!
For all my so called Cubs friends who didn’t respond on Saturday night to my road trip text:
Suck it Trebeck!
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 15, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed it
Woke up to the news this morning checking Cubs.com headlines before I even had coffee. Must have been a great game to watch, in person or on TV.
I like how Lou had the opening day lineup out there at the end of the game. I also like the Game Notes at the bottom of Yahoo’s box score:
Game Notes
THE HOME RUN BY CHICAGO LEFT FIELDER ALFONSO SORIANO LED OFF THE GAME.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS A NO-HITTER THROUGH SIX INNINGS.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS A NO-HITTER THROUGH SEVEN INNINGS.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS A NO-HITTER THROUGH EIGHT INNINGS.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS A NO-HITTER THROUGH EIGHT AND 1/3 INNINGS.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS A NO-HITTER THROUGH EIGHT AND 2/3 INNINGS.
CHICAGO PITCHER CARLOS ZAMBRANO HAS THROWN A NO-HITTER.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 15, 2008 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't planning to watch it...
…since I’d heard that the ESPN GOTW was gonna be the White Sox-Tigers game, and I didn’t really feel like staying glued to my computer to watch it on mlb.tv.
So I went down to my local pub for a drink and to spin some vinyl. On a whim, I switched the TV on there, figuring having any baseball on was better than nothing. It was just going into the top of the 2nd.
Despite being possibly the only Cubs fan in my city, the regulars at the pub are pretty indulgent of my obsession. By the 7th inning, the music was off, the TV was turned up and all the staff and patrons were gathered around the screen. My one quick drink turned into three or four.
When Zambrano got that final strike, a collective cheer burst out. People high-fived me. Two bought me beer. It was magic – a bunch of hockey-obsessed Canucks in a small Atlantic coast city cheering on the Cubs.
I’m still basking in the afterglow twelve hours later.
by sniffy the bee on Sep 15, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonderful!
Great stuff. Glad you got to see the great ending.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al keep it for posterity
I have a signed Pappas scorecard when I was there in ’72.
Now bigger issues: Z stood up to say he was still the ace. Cubs are in place to clinch the playoffs they are 9 games up in the loss column with Brewers having 12 games remaining…..
If the Brewers won all 12 it would give them 95 wins meaning the Cubs merely have to go 7-8 here on in to clinch….
Win today and it falls to 6-8…….
Consider 12-0 almost 100-1 odds lets us go to 10-2……
Cubs need to go 5-10……
Go to 9-3 and it is 4-11
The think is Z can start one more game on 6 or 7 days rest, pitch 60-70 pitches and be primed for the playoffs.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Sep 15, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually I think Houston is dead in the water if the Cubs jump on them early
no mercy for the weary….it is a 2-for…..meaning beat Houston now and they don’t have to play game 162
Brewers are shell shocked after being hit on the head in September (3-11) Cubs simply win 2 of 3….having their 3 best lined up….in fact if they beat CC they are done mentally
Cubs win today and move the number to six
they could finish of the Brewers this week for the division and have 10 games to line up the playoffs.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Sep 15, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT STORY SNIFFY!
I was at my neighborhood pub watching the Bears earlier in the day. I finally went home in the late afternoon to rest, sit on the couch… stop drinking, and watch the Cubs, despite all of my neighborhood buddies ripping on me for not staying at the bar to watch the Cubs.
As the game started, I got some phonecalls ragging on me for wussing out and staying at home. Then… the no-no starting mounting. By the 5th I couldn’t believe my eyes, and by the 7th, I was putting my shoes on. I told myself as I was pacing in front of the TV, if he gets this out (the final out in the 7th), I’m running over to the bar. Sure enough… he got it, I jumped up and down, grabbed my keys and RAN 4 BLOCKS to the bar. As I was running to the bar, I passed a guy on the street wearing a Cubs hat. While running past him, I was yelling “Z’s going for a no-no!” I got to the bar huffing and puffing and was greeted with a loud ovation by all my buddies.
Watching him finish it off with all my friends was one of the best baseball memories I’ll ever have.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Sep 15, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was following on Yahoo too
I left it open while I was doing other stuff and didn’t notice the no-no brewing until the top of the eighth. I watched the ninth on ESPN. It all happened so fast – it was like a dream.
I always thought Z had one in him – he had been close a few times before.
What an amazing year!
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
by jasoniniowa on Sep 15, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call for Lou
To let Z get the no-hitter. This should really get the team fired up for the rest of the seaaon and into the playoffs.
by ThisOldCub18 on Sep 15, 2008 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SEVENTH!!!

I’m loving that lucky number seven today.
I was listening to the game at home on the radio, since I didn’t have the game on TV last night. After the seventh inning, I decided to drive to a Cubs friendly bar near my house in Des Moines to catch the 8th and 9th on their connection.
After the final pitch by Zambrano, grown men were giving eachother hugs, buying rounds, and I even saw a few tears. I never thought I’d live to see a season like this.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Sep 15, 2008 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure beats...
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Sep 15, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better image

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Sep 15, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's one freaky looking seven!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
I wished I had recorded the whole thing. Got the 9th, though.
In a separate thread, I bitched about the low-def broadcast. `GN missed an opportunity here.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess is...
… and I asked some of the tech people at work today about this, it probably wasn’t possible for WGN to get a HD-capable truck into Milwaukee on such short notice. Give everyone involved kudos for pulling this off in a very short time.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, credit for getting it up and running in Milwaukee. No doubt the weather here was a challenge…I know some people that couldn’t even get out of their driveways.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al are you going to todays game?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 15, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, no.
Can’t make it up there today — too much going on, not logistically possible with work, etc. If you’re going, have fun and bring us another win!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Len Kasper said something like that at the beginning of the broadcast.
He said that because their broadcast was scheduled on short notice they didn’t have all the bells and whistles, like HD and the radar gun on screen.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this note.
That’s what I figured.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I probably wasn’t paying attention when Len said that. Two college degrees, and I still space out;)
I wonder how these situations will play out after the 02-17-09 HD deadline.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the digital signal and HD are different.
i.e. I have digital cable but not HD.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Sep 15, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not an "HD deadline".
It’s a switch to all DIGITAL broadcasting. There is a difference between “digital” and “HD”. The 2/17/09 date is simply for analog TV channels to switch to all-digital channels.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Digital N.E. HD
You guys are correct. Digital on 02-17-09. I tend to mentally blur the distinction.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I set my Tivo remotely from the ballpark....
…. and totally screwed it up and recorded Monday at 7-10pm. I’m SO upset right now. Anyone have word on a rebroadcast of any kind yet? I was told we were clearly visible in our seats in 121 too.
by McCarron on Sep 15, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing this might wind up an "ESPN Instant Classic".
I’d keep my eyes on those listings.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can watch on MLB.TV.
Unfortunately, it’s the Astros broadcast.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
I believe the premium service now includes the “away” broadcast.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 15, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But not the archives.
You can watch the “away” broadcast live, as I did last night, but it’s not available in the archives.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was complicated to set up on comcast
It had individual shows in hour time slots. I had to record an hour of some show, another hour of Top Model and the 9:00 news.
Still got it and was able to watch the fuzzy broadcast. Can’t remember when standard def looked so great.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 15, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah same here...
… so I had it take the 7pm show and then add 2 hours too it. Sadly I picked the Monday 7pm show, I had hit the “next day” button on the TVGuide.com web guide by mistake.
by McCarron on Sep 15, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
iTunes
normally has games of the week for sale so you could have the game on your computer after this week. I have bought both the come from behind vs colorado and the throw-back game on itunes.
by KC in OK on Sep 15, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great I had completely forgotten about iTunes!
by McCarron on Sep 15, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a game that will FOR SURE be available!
And i’ll be buying!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it just sucks it wasn't an HD game
Imagine if the broadcast was HD and itunes allowed you to purchase it as such, I would spend $10 on it!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The throw-back game is also owned by me :)
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to Z. I always figured he
would get a no-no and I guess the stars finally aligned so he would break through. GO CUBS!!!!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What a game
I listened to most of the game and was happy that ESPN cut into the White Sox game to show the completion of Z’s no-hitter.
When Z threw his 7 and 2/3rds no-hit innings against the D-Backs either last year or the year before, I remember thinking that he would be next Cubs pitcher to throw a no-hitter. Man was his stuff ever electric last night. I haven’t seen his pitches move like that all year.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reading the recap gives me goosebumps
I can’t believe I saw a no-hitter last night. I went to the game on a whim by myself, figuring since I live in Milwaukee I have no excuse! Al, wish I knew you were sitting a few sections away, my seat was in 114.
I was so nervous after the 7th inning that i was shaking and felt sick to my stomach. And I couldn’t get to sleep last night either after getting home. Amazing.
by KatoRx on Sep 15, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs Go
I cried and screamed louder than I have in a long time when the game ended last night.
I watched most of the game on the astros feed tired from driving back from San Antonio to Tulsa. In the 7th it finally clicked that this could really happen, then i got goosebumps in the 8th and 9th innings. I will never forget that I had tickets to the game the day that Z got his no hitter and that Ike was a hater-cane and the game was moved to Miller park so more Cubs fans could enjoy the moment, that I missed.
by KC in OK on Sep 15, 2008 8:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kicking myself....
was tracking the game via my cell phone and noticed that the Cubs were leading 5-0 in the 5th or 6th. had a chance to turn on Pat and Ron around 10:15 EST but figured that it was late and the victory was clearly in hand. Never thought to look at the box score of how Z was pitching…. I’ve followed almost every game of this special season and missed one the best. congrats to Z and envy to all Cubs fans that witnessed that ball game. Let’s get ’em again today, pitch well Lilly……
by cubbiefanTN on Sep 15, 2008 8:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
According to this the Brewers were there watching the no no after losing thier DH. That’s priceless. I’m pretty ticked that it was only on WGN locally. MLB really needs to rethink that policy.
As if the sweep at the hands of the Phillies weren’t bad enough, the Brewers retreated to the visiting clubhouse and watched Chicago’s Carlos Zambrano put the finishing touches on a no-hitter against Houston at Miller Park.
“They’re probably drinking champagne and having in a beer shower right now in our locker room while we sulk about what happened here,” said Braun. "It’s ironic, where we’re at as a team and how we feel at the end of this series and see them celebrating a no-hitter on our field.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
by MikeOxbyg on Sep 15, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they took solace
in knowing they wouldn’t have to face Z in their next series….
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 15, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come to think of it
why were the Cubs in the home dugout?
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Astros were "protesting"
And wore their gray road uniforms and took the visitors clubhouse
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed the grey pants
and thought as such.
Too bad they were more worried about amenities than hitting the ball.
make/art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Houston Chronicle confirmed such this morning
They should be mad at their owner, not at us.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read the Astros chose the visitors dugout...
…because they felt more comfortable there.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a silent protest...
Same with the road uniforms. The players chose to b*tch instead of play, and this is what they got.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
My first Cub game of the year. I feel so blessed to be there with my Dad and to witness history. It was truly awe inspiring. The crowd was so amped and loud after that last strike out. It was probably the loudest that park has ever been and it was only 2/3 full.
Here’s a funny story. After the game a Cub fan yelled out to his friend to take a picture of him on his cell phone. His friend was decked out in Astros gear and looked and preceded to flip him off as he snapped a photo. The Cub fan then said, “That’s more hits than your team had!”
You oughta stop playing God, case you're not good at it and the position is taken.
by cubbie-swagger on Sep 15, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The SC recap
said, after showing Z’s hit, that he, the pitcher, had more hits than the entire Astros team.
Awesome.
make/art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
question?
if the Cubs clinch prior to Z’s last regular season start, do you rest him… he’s looked absolutely dominant the two/three times this year that he’s had extended rest. at st. louis (after the 15day DL trip) and again last night…. just a thought.
by cubbiefanTN on Sep 15, 2008 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just started a FanPost...
about the post-season rotation… if you want to weigh in.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Sep 15, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
If the Cubs clinch Thursday Zambrano will start before the playoffs but it will be a 5 inning keep it going start to not lose steam. Same with Dempster etc.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 15, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they aren't going to clinch thursday, rather friday
bc i’m gonna be there…..knock on wood
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I vote for
Friday too. Friday is our annual Cubs game. We will be in sec 407 and I will have my BCB shirt and likely my DLee pinstripe jersey on. It would be doubly sweet to celebrate my 3rd wedding anniversary and the Cubs clinching on the same day! AND to have my Cards fan bro and sis-in-law with us to witness just what being at Wrigley is all about.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 15, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait a second
dlee jersey? you do know this is z’s next start don’t you? the atmosphere is gonna be electric!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I can come up with one before then
but I agree. Being in quasai Cards country makes it more difficult for Cubbie shopping.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! Don't knock on Wood
We need him for the playoffs, and he’s kinda fragile. ;)
by cocknfire on Sep 15, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few innings with a very low pitch count...
just to keep him sharp, IMHO.
by hokie316 on Sep 15, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A magical season, indeed.
As Al repeatedly says, this is a season to remember. Congratulations to Carlos Zambrano. He pitched a gem.
The Astros were no match, tired as they were, arriving from Milwaukee hours before the game. They can blame the hurricane if they want, but the real culprit was their owner, who had them endure 2 sleepless nights in Houston before the relief authorities practically forced him and MLBud to move the game out of the city. Everybody but them knew beforehand that Houston would be in no condition to host a game this weekend but the players and their families had to endure the hardships even though they could have been flown out of harm’s way in time. Instead, they had to drive out of Houston, as the airports are still closed, and hurry up to play amid physical fatigue. McLane killed his team’s momentum.
Be that as it may, it doesn’t take away from Zambrano’s performance. He would have dominated an Astros team in top form last night, as well.
What I find preposterous are Steve Phillips’ comments on ESPN’s Sportscenter. He criticized Lou for letting Zambrano go over his pitch count limit. All I can say is that Phillips is a tool.
Let’s hope the rest serves us well and cures the slump we were under. The Chokers Brewers helped us out. Thanks for lending us the ballpark and for being thrown out of the Division race for all practical purposes, on the same day!
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My understanding was...
… that the Astros plane was allowed to fly out of Houston yesterday, the only flight permitted to leave town.
So they did get preferential treatment, just in order to play the game at all. But you’re right, McLane screwed his own team by not doing the right thing in advance of the storm — he could have chartered a couple of planes and flown his team AND their families out of town Thursday night.
The Astros have no one to blame but their own management.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McLane would've been crucified...
…by the local media had he done that. The players didn’t want to leave. If he had made them leave to play baseball it wouldn’t have been pretty. I know he pretty much sucks as an owner, but I think he did the right thing. The Astros fans here are pissed that they played in Milwaukee and not Atlanta. I just got power back yesterday and all the news coverage is about the storm so no one here (including me) understood why they made that decision.
But I did get to watch Carlos pitch a gem. For me that was an awesome bright spot in a very long weekend. For my neighbors, it was another punch in the gut.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Sep 15, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a rain forecast for Atanta.
MLB couldn’t risk having more than one game postponed. I understand the frustration amid Houston fans and McLane’s position. That’s why MLB (not McLane or the players) had to make a decision early. By trying to accomodate McLane’s wishes, the Astros were screwed.
The players are like everyone else. Nobody wants to leave their home during an emergency but cooler heads should have prevailed. They should have “evacuated” when they had the chance.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think allowing the player's to stay at home...
….was probably a bigger issue than what you guys are understanding. This may be hard to understand, but no one wants to evacuate in a hurricane. I didn’t really understand this until now but you’ll just have to take my word for it that this isn’t an issue of being an “idiot” or having a death wish. With the players being insistent on staying at home (and being on record as such) McLane had no choice but to let them do as they wish. I don’t know that those who wanted to evacuate didn’t. It seems there was nothing stopping them (the roads were clear on Friday morning).
But for you to imply that the players should have done what was convenient for MLB instead of their family is a little ludicrous. No one aside from emergency workers/medical personnel and the like should be asked to put their personal lives aside in a situation like that. This is still baseball, not war.
I understand about the forecast of rain thing. But it looks bad when you look at it from their perspective. Selig (whose team is in front of Houston in the wild card race and struggling) sends their team on the road to probably the least neutral site available. I’m not complaining, works well for the Cubs. But I’m still scratching my head. Why not Minnesota or Seattle? or LA or SF?
All that aside, it was a very good week for the Cubs in terms of the playoffs and it appears maybe the ship is righted. Let’s hope they can really build some momentum now and keep everyone rested.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that your perspective is different from ours
and to suggest that players leave their families and homes during a hurricane is ridiculous. I don’t fault the players for wanting to stay home, but there were consquences from that stance. They had to deal with those as being a part of MLB.
The decision of playing in Miller was set based on the situation. LA and SF were not considered because of the distance and the fact that MLB had to make sure the games would be played. The odds of a rainout in LA and SF are slim but that was a chance MLB could not take. It seems that Selig was determined to keep the game in a NL park and since Houston and Milwaukee have the only indoor parks in the NL, Miller was the only option.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Minnesota and Seattle were not available, and neither was Tampa.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. We all love our
Cubs but no one is going to vacate their home to let us play there.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Tampa Bay plays at home tonight. The Vikings were at home yesterday. I’m not sure Seattle was as much unavailable but a worse option because of travel to Seattle and Houston having to fly to Miami after the game today. But maybe it really was unavailable.
by Josh77 on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota
Had the Vikings playing there on Sunday afternoon. It wasn’t an option.
Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles were rejected as being too far to travel (remember, Houston has to fly to Miami tonight, too). The weather forecasts for Dallas/Ft. Worth and Atlanta were iffy. And let’s be honest: for all their bitching about Milwaukee, the Astros did want the revenue for a Milwaukee game.
It wasn’t an ideal situation and the Astros got hosed. But they did most of the hosing themselves.
by Josh77 on Sep 15, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand the players' position.
As I wrote above, nobody wants to leave their home during a hurricane. That’s human nature and the players are no different. I’m sure McLane wouldn’t want to earn their wrath.
That’s why MLB should have decided the issue early on. They shouldn’t have tried to acomodate the Astros or the Cubs more than what was prudent.
Think, for instance, of a player who lives in Houston but plays for another team. Or a Houston employee on a work-related appointment out of the area. They couldn’t have decided to go to Houston and abandon their jobs even though they probably would’ve liked to.
The Astros were in that same situation. They should have moved earlier to another place. That early move would have allowed MLB to schedule those games somewhere else and not in Milwaukee because you woul’ve had had more days to reschedule any game affected by rain in the new location. The team could have arranged, then, to have the players’ relatives go back to Houston as soon as possible and could have provided a short leave for those players who confronted an emergency at home. But having them terrified in Houston with no games to be played and no quick way to get out was a mistake that in the end harmed the team.
So, if the team wanted to protest wearing road uniforms and using the visitors dugout, as they did, I suggest that the protest should be addressed at that unfortunate situation.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't McLane have...
… flown the players’ families out with them? Then they could have made hurricane preps and evacuated, like thousands of other people… except they had the means to go virtually anywhere they wanted by plane, unlike others who had to sit in horrendous traffic jams or on buses.
I still think the Astros made a huge miscalculation by their management, and they players whining about it took their focus off of baseball.
Which all worked out fine for the Cubs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
If I hear one more lament from McLane’s mouth I’m going to call him McWhiner.
And what about the manager? Whining with protest symbols instead of getting those players to put all that behind and play to the best of their abilities? If they falter, now we know who to “blame.”
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when you're managing the hottest team...
in baseball, on a 14-1 run. If the team needed a spark, then I could see turning all ‘Norma Rae’ and making this ‘savage injustice’ into a rallying point. But doing it when your team had momentum turned it into a distraction instead.
Kinda like Ned Yost getting all huffy about Charlie Cheeseburger’s one-hitter, and making it into a big deal – before you know it, the Crew goes into a tailspin… Distraction, anyone?
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 15, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the local
media would have killed McLane, but he had to know that by digging in his heels and insisting the games be played in Houstin that he would have ended up with egg on his face if his actions backfired.
The view from Chicago is a lot different fromwhat you guys are dealing with down there. People are out on the street with destroyed homes and we are worrying about a baseball game. It makes you wonder if our priorities are in the right place. Unfortunately, local situations can take a back seat to things like professional sports. We tend to say “Life goes on” while the people are forced to deal with surviving a major tragedy.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad. ESPN gave the impression that they drove out of town.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fact, here's the story on how the Astros got out of Houston.
On a chartered plane at 11:00 AM yesterday.
link
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wearing my Cubs jersey to work today...
even though it’s not casual Friday…. It’s worth the looks.
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by digitalbenjamin on Sep 15, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope
I hope this is the first of 2 on field parties this week for the Cubs.
That was truly special. I was only 4 in 1972 so I don’t remember that game.
Now let’s win today and sweep the Brewers and party on Thursday!
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 15, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 parties, noooo
1) clinch
2) win NLDS
3) win NLCs
4) win WS
5 parties, including last night.
by CubFaninNY on Sep 15, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
The note was for 2 parties on-field THIS WEEK. I like the sentiment though….
by 26.2cubsfan on Sep 15, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al forgot to include an all-too familiar phrase about this year, so I'll put it in here.
From his August 27th game recap as the Cubs beat the Pirates 2-0:
“Stop what you’re doing right now and look around you, remember where you are, what you are doing, because this is an historic day in Cubs history.”
How can any of us ever forget the day that Z threw a No-No at Miller Park against the Astros? Un-freaking-believeable!!!
by adam316 on Sep 15, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they're as rare as comets
those Cubs no-hitters.
The last time, 1972, I was 5 1/2, which is my son’s age now. I made a point of showing him the picture of Big Z in the newspaper.
Gotta remember these.
"You get one extra flare a week -- just one -- a gork, a ground ball with eyes, a dying quail -- just one more dying quail a week and you're in Yankee Stadium!"
-- Crash Davis
by mlf on Sep 15, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WORLD SERIES! WORLD SERIES! WORLD SERIES!
WORLD SERIES! WORLD SERIES! WORLD SERIES!
NOTHING CAN STOP US NOW!!!
HOP ON THE CUBBIES WORLD SERIES EXPRESS!!
MAYOR DALEY-PLEASE PREPARE THE VICTORY PARADE!!!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Sep 15, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. Yes, we are thrilled with the no-no and getting closer to clinching.
But there is much work to be done before any of that can happen.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come 0n Al...
You predicted a WS victory at the beginning of the season… so please don’t spoil the atmosphere.
WE ARE GOING ALL THE WAY!!!!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Sep 15, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still want that... as do all of us.
But let’s not rev up the express quite yet!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate your enthusiasm...
…but please see my sig line and heed the words of Jimbo Hollywood.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A big "THANKYOU!"
to the folks that tipped us off to the streaming video of the game last night on <http://www.justin.tv/barcalysports>. Does anyone happen to know what DirecTV channel the EI broadcast of the game will be on today?
by Carolina Cubbie on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you get it on Direct TV, because it's not on the EI schedule screen on cable.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for checking for me.
by Carolina Cubbie on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check, nevertheless.
Direct TV’s EI schedule might be different than cable’s.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was so excited
through the 8th and 9th that by the bottom of the 9th I was weeping with joy, nervousness, anticipation…the whole lot of it. When the team ran out to pummel Z with the crowd roaring…. oh my goodness. I’m still smiling. I’ll smile all day long.
And big BIG kudos to our man GEO. Wow. wow. wow…
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
by Emelie on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Such a special time for Cub fans.
Geo kept the game winning ball in his glove for Z. What a great celebration on the mound after the game. Loved hearing what Z’s teammates had to say after the game.
by sue369 on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing how our Geo love in April ......
has played out tis season
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We almost drove up to the game last night.
But being a poor grad student, I just couldn’t swing it…
Thankfully we caught the whole thing on tv, we had about 10 people crammed into one room jumping up and down at every out. So thankful that WGN was able to broadcast the game! I won’t be forgetting this one!
by lindz221 on Sep 15, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just an awesome game--
On a whim, I suggested to my wife and two boys to take a road trip up to Milwaukee to see the game and invited my Dad and his wife also. I knew it was going to be a memorable day just driving up and as we got closer to Milwaukee half the cars it seemed were filled with Cub fans driving up as well.
As far as the game itself, I’ll never forget the stardust of camera flashes in the bottom of the 9th every time Z threw a pitch and then the burst of cheers for every strike! Wow. I will never forget this one, and my kids were witnesses to history!
by epcub on Sep 15, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was cowering in the next room--how did that game end up last night?
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 15, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller Park
Is there a separate thread where I can read impressions of MP? I’ve never been there.
More evidence of my advanced age: I saw Cubs vs. Braves the final year the Braves played at County Stadium, before they moved to Atlanta. I vaguely remember that Williams, Santo and Banks all homered.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That game was probably...
… this one on August 29, 1965. The Cubs swept that series.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that's gotta be the one
Thanks, Al. Don’t know how you even searched for this game (let alone found it).
No pun intended, but I remember the “natives” were restless, with most of the crowd cheering for the Cubs. By this time, Milwaukeeans were probably completely fed up with their franachise.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, my gawd
I haven’t seen P Bill Faul’s name in a long time. I believe he used to hypnotize himself on the mound.
by thermal54 on Sep 15, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he did.
It was fairly easy to search. Criteria: Cubs at Milwaukee in 1965 (their last year there). There were only nine such games. Looked for one where Banks, Santo and Williams all homered. That was the first one I found, it was on a Sunday, so likely would have been one you could have attended.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is actually a great park
First time I’ve been there with the roof closed. As an architect, I think the sliding roof is an engineering marvel and the entire stadium feels as “intimate” as any venue of that size can be. I liked it better though with nice weather and the massive metal panels behind the outfield stands opened up (felt kind of like a "lockdown"). It is isolated from the downtown, but from what I hear, there are big plans for future development that will ultimately make it a great urban park.
by epcub on Sep 15, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been there both open and closed
In 07 we went to Cubs/Brewers game Easter weekend which was quite cold for April. I never been so happy for the dome.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m jealous of every single one of you who were at the game
In a season fully of wonderful Cub moments Big Z just had the biggest. I was watching the game on MLB.tv. I was on the phone with my girlfriend giving her play by play as it was happening. I told her to switch to ESPN so she could watch the end. We were both screaming our heads off. She told me she actually started to cry, she said "your girlfriend’s such a spa, I’m actually crying" I told her not worry about; I was almost in tears myself. On a side note, my girlfriend had a dream earlier in that Carlos pitched a no-hitter and that Cubs won the World Series. She has no history of history or claim of making physic predictions, but an interesting prediction no the less.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Sep 15, 2008 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is your girlfriend...
a physicist?
by sniffy the bee on Sep 15, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, you have been warned...
…you are, from now on, REQUIRED to use Mike’s scorecard for every game! Home, road, whatever….you MUST use that scorecard for all Al-official scoring!!!!
I tuned in when I got home in the 6th and noted that Len and Bob were gingerly talking around the fact that Z had not given up a hit. I kept track of it while watching Entourage, but TiVo’d the rest of Entourage in order to hop up and down for the entire 9th inning. Amazing, amazing performance. No one on the Astros hit the ball hard — the closest was that fly ball that DeRosa easily corralled in the 8th.
I’d like to see the rest of the rotation and lineup fired up after this, so that when Z comes up for his next start, we’re down to Larry Bowa or below on the magic number…..I’d like nothing more than to see Zambrano pitch in the playoffs with a bunch of rest, seeing how well he did last night….
by Chadnudj on Sep 15, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al, I think you're also required...
…to keep posting pictures of Geo on the pregame threads. As a tax-paying citizen of this great nation, I call upon vice presidential candidate Sue to open up our Strategic Geopic Reserves and forward several thousand pixels to Al for judicious use going forward.
Sincerely yours,
Daver
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second that motion
( x ) Yes ( ) No
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by tony412 on Sep 15, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes. That is required. Yes, it is.
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
by Emelie on Sep 15, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree w/ that
Our studly catcher needs to get face time during pregame threads
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 15, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, don't you all worry about that.
The Geo pictures are staying.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have enough pictures left for the rest of the season and postseason?
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he can find 26-40 pictures...
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a few also
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 15, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Send them to me!
I’m looking for new ones.
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by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please, tho, Al:
make sure he’s FULLY CLOTHED in all of them. With the Girl Squad here, you never know… :D
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 15, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay!
Bring on the Geo!
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 15, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly Daver my
computer crashed Sat. night and I lost all of my pictures (family, sports, everything). I’m trying to regroup so it may be a while before I get any pictures of Geo. :-(
by sue369 on Sep 15, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ack!!!
Hurricanes on the gulf coast, flooding here in Chi-town…and now this?! Really sorry to hear it!
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drove down from Madison
for the game, and wow. The atmosphere was absolutely amazing! I thought the fact that it was at Miller Park, for an odd game almost added something to the entire experience. It wouldn’t have been the same if it were anywhere else. Better at Wrigley, but different.
by stadiumguru on Sep 15, 2008 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great point....
….that stadium was LOUD for not being a sell-out….great job by Cubs fans travelling up there. Maybe this will wake up ESPN to the fact that baseball is played outside of Boston and New York….
by Chadnudj on Sep 15, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone rooting for the Brewers from this point on?
Obviously not this week at Wrigley, but I would prefer them to the Phillies (or Mets).
by gocubsgo22 on Sep 15, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mets don't scare me.
The Philiies, however, do.
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by Al on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The phillies
scare me to
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 15, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No,I'm still rooting for the Astro's to knock out
the Phillies and Brewers. After today, of course.
by Rick B on Sep 15, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like the playoffs to be Cubs, Mets, Dodgers and Astos.
by Rick B on Sep 15, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i couldn't agree more
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After all the Astros have said this weekend, I don't want them in.
I would rather face the Chokers Brewers. But the important thing is to get in the postseason party.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the Brewers bats could wake up.
The Astos are playing over their heads. They will return to mediocrity eventually.
by Rick B on Sep 15, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You pick
CC, Sheets, Parra OR Oswalt, Backe, Wandy?
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by tony412 on Sep 15, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moot
Neither of them are going to make it
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by Goat Whisperer on Sep 15, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parra has been useless as of late
Sheets hasn’t been that great either. Oswalt is on the top of his game right now. Wandy has always given us some issues, though we have also gotten to him.
I’d rather face the Brewers.
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by nji232 on Sep 15, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in a car
coming back from Detroit (Packers/Lions) game with 4 Brewers fans listening to the Browns/Steelers game because of fantasy implications and I missed the whole thing. I’ll try to capture some magic today but man 5 minutes on Sportscenter doesn’t cut what you saw yesterday.
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by TkGoUWGB on Sep 15, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CONGRATS TO BIG Z!!!!
And what a great job it was….
But lets remember this, in my opinion, second to the No-hitter has to be D-Lees OPPOSITE field double. He could be breaking out quickly and get his stroke back. That swing looked great.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
by HIGGY on Sep 15, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That'd be really great.
Exactly what this team needs, too — one of its best hitters getting hot at this time of year.
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by Al on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was huge....it was as hard as he had hit a ball in weeks.
..Could be great sign for Lee and the Cubs
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Sep 15, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee's hit was
awesome. I hope it’s a sign of things to come.
by sue369 on Sep 15, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee needed to move down in the batting order or get a good rest.
Ike gave him the latter.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, it was a low and outside pitch...
…just the kind of pitch he’s been striking out on all season long. DLee showed a lot of power early in the season, maybe he can bookend the year with a solid breakout for the last month (and beyond).
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMHO that could have been a called strike
outside corner, just above the knees. I’d be more worried about him trying to pull that pitch rather than striking out. Striking out, there’s so many things that could be happening, including just wrongly guessing and taking it for strike 3, guessing wrong on the pitch / timing and swinging and missing or just grounding to the right side. The worse thing is trying to pull that kind of pitch; its that whats given him the DP-Lee name ‘cuz he’s rolled over on it and grounded to short, all too often with 0-1 outs and a runner one first.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Sep 15, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's a good point.
The fact that he went the other way with it may be the best sign of all.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a great inning.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 15, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, I was there too.
I asked my son to go but he declined because he said he had to get up early for work. He called me after the game. i wish he had come. Anyway, my son-in-law to be joined me. I said on Friday if the phillies could sweep the Brewers, we could wrap this up Thursday, at home, against the Brewers. If we 4 in a row, we’re in. I hope the boys didn’t celebrate too much last night.
by Rick B on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 million for clinching on Thursday!
Taking my son to his first game Thursday!
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
by MikeOxbyg on Sep 15, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no
friday please!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Friday Friday Friday
Doesn’t being happily married for 3 yrs (a feat on its own these days) and this being the only Cubs game I will see this season (unless I somehow become independantly wealthy and can afford post season tickets) count as excellent reasons for this magical day to be Friday? I would say this deserves a poll, but it isn’t exactly like any of us get to pick what day.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 15, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thursday is said posters bday
So I concur with your post!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
I will be at the game on Thursday. It would be amazing if the Cubs could clinch then.
by SuperContext on Sep 15, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano's stuff
Hopefully one thing that Carlos realized is that he’s most successful when he’s getting lots of ground balls in addition to the strike-outs. What made Carlos so successful early in his career was his ability to get ground balls at will. He seemed to go away from that and rely on the K’s. Last night Carlos got the K’s and the ground balls.
Lots of deeper meaning in this game… in Milwaukee, though without the Brewers involvement. Against the same team that Kerry got the 20 Ks. Imagine had this game been played in Washington DC, with a crowd of 800 watching.
On a side note, I’ll be at Yankee Stadium on Saturday and Shea on Monday, but unless the Brewers get the train back on the tracks, the Cubs likely will have clinched the division by then. Interestingly, the Cubs and Mets could conceivably clinch their divisions during the same series, if not the same game.
DmL
by dmlichte on Sep 15, 2008 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last Inning
Someone on Youtube put the last inning of the FSN Houston video with Pat and Ron’s call, watch it before Youtube pulls it!
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by MrNFL on Sep 15, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubtober
hope cubtober is this special. I will never forget last night.
from the mouth of Uecker:
"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."
by cubsluver22 on Sep 15, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The top 100 list
When is Zambrano going to be moved up? :P
by daeviant on Sep 15, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wikipedia
The Wikipedia articles on Carlos Zambrano and “no hitter” were updated seconds after the game was done. I wonder who sits around ready to update the article when this stuff happens.
by daeviant on Sep 15, 2008 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
probably the same type of person....
….that checks wikipedia for updates
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's one Cubs fan who deserved to see this game...
…it’s you, Al. I was glad to log on to BCB yesterday and learn that you had made the trip. Great recap. What a surreal night.
I’ve told my rather humdrum story in a couple fanposts, but a couple weird personal notes:
1. I finally bought one of those Cubs gnomes yesterday afternoon – kind of an impulse buy at a local hardware store. After throwing around a few ideas for names with my daughter, we settled on Carlos Zambragnome – this was about three or four hours before game time.
2. I could’ve watched the last few innings on TV, but I was so superstitious, I couldn’t bring myself to turn off the radio. I heard Pat and Ron’s call until that very last, glorious moment than ran to turn on the TV to view the postgame coverage. I spent about an hour and a half after the game trying to soak in the radio, TV and BCB coverage.
To think of how low many of us were during the first week to week and a half of this month, and to see how, ahem, high were are right now. It’s just amazing. Whatever the future holds, this season has been well worth the passion and energy we’ve all put into it. I BELIEVE more great times lie ahead.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My gnome
is Ron Santgnome. He guards me daughter’s bedroom because I can’t bring myself to put him outside.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 15, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
I remember from earlier this season that Kosuke Fukugnome was already taken. We also briefly considered Mike Fontegnome, but I assumed that one was taken, too. Other ideas included Gnome Piniella and Gnome Johnson.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine's name is Geosoto.
He is sitting on my computer desk next to my Bears gnome
by sue369 on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time geo comes up to bat,
I sing “go go geo soto” to the inspector gadget theme.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only near no-hitter experience...
I’m nowhere near 2,000+ games, but I was fortunate enough to be in Oakland on a business trip on July 14, 2005. The A’s pitcher took a perfect game into the 8th before a bloop single broke it up with 1 out. Incredibly exciting, and I can’t imagine being at a similar Cubs game (where I actually cared who won).
Odd thing about that game… Oakland’s pitcher… Rich Harden. The guy who hit the single… Alfonso Soriano. There must be a glitch in the matrix.
by hokie316 on Sep 15, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Clement vs. the Mets @ Wrigley
He had a no-hitter going into the 7th, then gave up a home run. I was sitting behind the Cubs bullpen.
by daeviant on Sep 15, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw Rich Hill/Sean Marshall 1 hit the Reds last September
in Cincy….ex Cub Buck Coats got the only hit.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine was Lieber's one hitter vs the Reds in 2001
…he gave up the hit in the 6th, but it was an incredible pitching performance. I rarely keep score, for some reason I did that day. Still have the card.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200105240.shtml
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Wood do the same thing the next day?
I swear he threw a one-hitter either the day before or the day after.
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by nji232 on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200105250.shtml
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 3-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. Buffalo. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
by nji232 on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Boston for Derek Lowe's no-hitter on April 27, 2002.
I took my brother to the game since it siblings’ weekend at Boston College. Kept score for the whole thing – by the 6th inning people started to ask a lot of no-hitter-related questions, which made the scorecard pretty vital.
Still have the scorecard and ticket from the game.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 15, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at Chuck Rainey's one-hitter in 1983
Closest I’ve ever come.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
by flyingdonut on Sep 15, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Derek Lowe...
I was at Wrigley in 2005 when he 1-hit the Cubs. A leadoff infield single by Jerry Hairston, Jr. in the 1st inning, IIRC (and I may be wrong… I’ve kind of suppressed this unpleasant memory).
by hokie316 on Sep 15, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
I remember watching that and thinking about how good he was pitching that day.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 15, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a cubfest lovefest at Miller Park last night.
If not for the Camera shots between innings you would not of known that there was a Houston fan in the park. All I saw walking into the park, going to my seats and leaving the park were Cub fans giving each other high fives.
A good day for me is a cubs win and a sox loss.
by diehardmark on Sep 15, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My second. I was at Burt Hooten's.
But it felt like it was about 35 degrees that day.
by Rick B on Sep 15, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it WAS about 35 degrees that day.
I didn’t go — you were one of the few. Hardly anyone thought they’d play that day.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny how no-hitters seem to happen. If you look down through
history, a lot of no-hitters happen to pitchers who are not at their best. Many of them come to guys who are late in their careers and you would think that their best days are behind them. Obviously Z has had more dominating years and coming off his injury, the last thing you would expect would be a no-hitter.
This just add to the mystique of the no-hitter. Many of them happen when a pitcher is sick or hung over and seems to have pitching as the last thing on their minds. Kind of like hitting homeruns. That seems to be the key to most great atletic achievements. When you try to do something like this, it rarely happens. When the accomplishment is the furthest thing from your mind, the body seems to relax, the stars align and great results can happen
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
During this milestone, WGN America was showing...Bewitched.
Ugh.
I was on my couch reading when I happened to look up and see the ticker at the bottom alert something. “Next up: H. Pence” it said. I kinda freaked and switched from ESPN 2 to ESPN to see that Z was through eight. WHAT?! Needless to say, I popped in my tape to record this. My heart skipped with every pitch (maybe it’s a good thing I didn’t watch the whole game) and the prevalent thought in the back of my mind was “Imagine what the World Series would be like.” But I pushed that aside, cos it was Z’s night.
Also, like Brenly said, I want to give major props to Geo for calling the no-hitter. Anybody know how many rookie catchers have ever done that?
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for your lost chance
TV today just isn’t the same…
Don’t know how many rooks caught a no-no but mentioned here earlier the kid that caught Johnson’s perfect game in Atl was a rookie, that being a couple years or so ago and the same night Jason Schmidt threw a 144-pitch one hitter against the Cubs at Wrigley.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how many have....
….but the last one was when Robby Hammock caught Randy Johnson’s perfect game in ’04
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Torborg caught a Koufax no-hitter in 1965
He had a brief call up in ’64, but, like Geo, still probably technically a rookie.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torborg was officially a rookie in '65.
Incidentally, in checking Cub no-hitters I find that Soto isn’t even the first CUB rookie to catch a no-hitter.
Danny Breeden, officially a rookie in 1971, caught Kenny Holtzman’s second no-hitter on June 3, 1971.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
…and Breeden was out of baseball for good after that season.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I recall correctly
I was at the game a day (or two?) after the Burt Hooton no-hitter. They were passing out photos (black & white) of Hooton and Randy Hundley. The Cubs gave Hooton a huge bonus for pitching the no-no and another to Hundley for catching/calling it – I want to say, $2,000 for Hooton and $500 for Hundley.
Of course, I think a bleacher seat cost $1.50 then, so that was a fair chunk of change.
by ChipSet on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN THIS OVERSEAS TOUR!!!!
I stayed up till past midnight last night, watching the Chargers/Broncos game on AFN. I thought it was worth it after the spectacle it turned out to be, and went to sleep as I had to be at work by 6am. I wake up this morning to this fabulous news, and can’t believe that I slept through the first Cubs No-Hitter in my lifetime. I am saddened beyond belief.
I did however print out a copy of the Tribune front page flag and story and hung it proudly at my cubicle where many people will see it… and my brother will be bringing me a Trib when he comes to visit next Tuesday.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts on Houston
They will not be heard for the rest of the season. They are mad at their owner, concerned about real issues like their family living without electricity and services.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Sep 15, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this....
“MILWAUKEE – The 1,000-ounce beer shower left a pair of victims in its sudsy wake. First, the poor carpet at Miller Park, which for the foreseeable future will reek of eau de frat house. And then the intended target, Carlos Zambrano, who soaked in the 3½ cases lavished on him by his Chicago Cubs teammates following the most improbable, incredible night of his life.”
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From this article....
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=Apvdgk2Tb8Py4uQ.yPLThk5nYcB?slug=jp-zambranonohitter091408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 15, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks...
I’ve never quite figured out how to do that “one click for one word” thingy.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Highlight the word(s) you want to show up in blue as the link
then hit the chain icon. In that box, paste the URL. Voila.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I tried that and it didn’t show because I didn’t type in/highlight a word. No wonder.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 15, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats awesome
A nice little reminder for the Brewers when they get home next week.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 3-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. Buffalo. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
by nji232 on Sep 15, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5-10 Overall, 2-4 vs. MIL; 7-8 Overall, 2-2 vs. NYM
Regardless of what else happens, if the Cubs go 5-10 overall and 2-4 vs. MIL, the Cubs will clinch the division.
Regardless of what else happens, if the Cubs go 7-8 overall, and split the four-game series with the Mets, then the Cubs will finish the season with the National League’s best regular season record.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Sep 15, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to hear these scenarios...
This is the only one that I like:
If the Cubs win their next 4 games, they clinch the division – on my birthday!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this scenario
I wouldn’t put it past the Cubs. Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
by daeviant on Sep 15, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say!
That was a headline I used on a recent recap, inspired by something Mike said at the ballpark. Don’t have time to find it now, but if you search the site you should find it (“Nothing This Team Does Surprises Me Any More”).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a difference a mere week makes.
Nobody could have guessed last Sunday that seven days from then we’d have won three straight after being off two days, the Brewers would lose a doubleheader, then Z’s no-no would combine to bring the magic number down three in one day.
I love this team.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about that last night.
Just about all the hand-wringing and how much people on this board tried to steer people away from ledges last week. And now, the magic number is down to a flag-saving 7 and we’ve witnessed a no-hitter.
Truly special times, and I think there’s more to come.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 15, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was at the game last night...
thought of a lot of you guys. Wore my BCB shirt hoping to run into some of the regulars but didn’t. NA if I would have had your cell number I would have called you so you could have heard it!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Sep 15, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheers!
When I’m watching games and not at a computer I often imagine what’s going on in the game threads. We truly have a community here at BCB.
I want to have a drink with all of you!
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming right up!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about IF the cubs win the world series
we schedule a bcb post-party at some wrigley-ville location?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally
I’ve already cleared a week off from work to travel up to Chicago if they make the WS.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 15, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a perfect alignment of factors...
1) Z fresh off an extended rest
2) “Neutral” field filled with Cub fans
3) Astros less than 100% due to travel and fatigue
Great performance, obviously, but there was a lot of help that made it possible.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Sep 15, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but none of that help
Was by the Cubs mongering.
It’salmost like the Broncos game last night. Sure, as a Broncos fan I’d admit the Chargers got hosed, twice. But in both instances, the rules as clearly layed out all season (and when instant replay became permanent) were followed.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
it was a perfect storm….i think even more than the travel/fatigue factor was i doubt the astros were mentally into the game, i’m sure they were worried about homes, friends, etc…
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure they might of worried
But isn’t the reason they get paid $300,000 – millions each year so they can concentrate on baseball for a mere 3 hours each day?
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you implying that just because they are
well-paid, they shouldn’t worry about things like family and safety? Think about what you just wrote. Would you worry less about your life if you made more money? We often think that just because a guy makes a million dollars a year, he should be a happy-go-lucky type that hasn’t a care in the world. That million a year won’t bring back a family member or love one caught up in this type of situation.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
But all that money SHOULD give people who have it multiple options for escaping a hurricane.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
options for them to leave sure
but that still doesn’t mean they weren’t still worried about their homes, friends, family, etc…
astros were at a huge disadvantage
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disadvantage, yes.
Huge? They MADE it huge by focusing on it.
All of us have troubles in our lives. We all have jobs to do. You have to put your personal troubles behind you when you go to work — otherwise your job performance will suffer, just as the Astros’ did last night.
For the Cubs sake I hope it suffers at least one more day.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that we all have problems and that is no excuse
for a poor performance. I think that the situation may have contributed to the outcome of the game. You know that hitting a basemall from amajor league pitcher is probably the hardest think to do in sports. Add worrying about what is happening at home and you must admit it may affect their performance. Not an excuse mind you, just an observation.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree
most of us don’t have jobs where competition is the primary focus of what we do, that comparison doesn’t work for me
the travel, thoughts on the hurricane, playing what was essentially an away game, all create a huge disadvantage
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know
it’s not like a whole ton of people in Chicagoland didn’t get flooded out. There’s a whole swatch of SE Chicagoland that’s without power. My kid’s school was delayed start because it flooded.
I’m not suggesting that it’s the same as being in the brunt of a hurricane, but everybody has their job to do, and this is theirs.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Sep 15, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you say your job is as hard as theirs?
i know i wouldn’t, therefore i can understand why the astros may have been off their game
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say that my job is DIFFERENT from theirs
and that my stresses are different, but that if I were making even league minimum, I’d think that my stresses would be less.
I can also understand why the Astros might have been off their game. But I don’t excuse it. That’s baseball, and it’s their job to go out and win.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Sep 15, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as good as they are playing............
they should just have the anytime anywhere mentality. I think they let themselves get too distracted (which is understandable)
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by graceunderpressure on Sep 15, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to say
That those that are well-paid should have the means necessary to make sure family and property is as taken care of as possible before a massive event like this. Especially with two weeks notice.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what!
means to make sure their property was taken care of? all the money in the world, you can’t stop a hurricane from doing what it wants….see reliant stadium
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But ultimately, that is still property. And by the means to take care of it, I mean securing valuables, finding temporary places to stay in case something happens, moving family out of the area, etc.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
And, to have the means to replace destroyed property, which wealthy ballplayers and owners have. Most Houston and Galveston residents don’t have that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are plenty of things that all the money world can't replace
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
We tend to concentrate on the property side of these things but there are human lives at stake here. We kind of forget about that sometimes.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed....
But for those things, you can secure those valuables as mentioned above. Especially given two weeks.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how exactly do you protect your home from a hurricane?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. They could have left someone in charge or...
have a relative go back to Houston as soon as possible after the storm pased and in a worst case scenario, the team could have granted a leave to any player who experienced a major emergency or tragedy (God forbid it from happening). That would have been the case for any other employee out of the area for business reasons. Why are baseball players different?
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what your point is
maybe having seen first hand the devastation from the flooding in iowa, i see things from a different perspective than you guys
but no matter who you are, what you get paid, these types of natural disaters don’t have a biased as to who they affect…..you are right baseball players aren’t any different than us, they worry about their communities, friends, family just like the rest of us…..if you can’t understand why this would affect their play i’m not sure what else i can say (not to mention they had to face one of the best picthers in the league)
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You really seem to get it.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 15, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference
Between floods and hurricanes. Myself and my entire family have a large amount of disaster relief experience with the American Red Cross both at the volunteer and national paid staff level. A hurricane you can prepare for. A flood, tornado, earthquake you can not.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
therefore you're not allowed to worry?!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worrying will only do so much
Especially over 24 hours after the hurricane has passed through. You know how family and friends fared. You’ve started cleanup efforts. And by all means we’ve been told, not many recieved considerable amounts of damage such as homes being knocked down.
At the point the game came around, it was an excuse. They weren’t worried about friends and family and property, they were bitching about their terrible circumstances that their owner could of prevented.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree to disagree i guess
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand their state of mind.
I still remember when Hurricane Hugo blew an interior wall of my apartment and ruined the wall to wall carpeting. I lived for months in bare concrete with a baby sleeping in a room without a wall. I was constantly worried and depressed. For more than a week I had to climb 19 floors of stairs with a baby because there was no power to move the elevators and the hurricane flooded their engine.
But I still went to work and didn’t whine. It was nobody’s fault. There was nothing different that could have been done. I repaired the place and that was that.
That’s what I don’t get about the Astros. They decided to stay in Houston and now they whine because they have to play in Milwaukee. There is no other “rain-proof” place to play. That’s nobody else’s fault. By the time they decided to move the games there was no other alternative. Why all the whining and protests, then?
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've endured damages from 2 hurricanes before.
I understand the pain. What I don’t understand is the Astros’ whining. Nobody can control the weather. If Mother Nature decided that a hurricane was going to Houston, the games had to be moved. By waiting too long the Astros boxed themselves in a corner, leaving Milwaukee as the only feasible alternate site.
If they are so frustrated at playing there as they say, the alternative was to get out of Houston in time. The players and the owner chose to stay, as most would do in that situation. Fine. Now they don’t have anyone but themselves to blame for the consequences, as unpleasant as they may be. That includes messing up their season and their lethargic play last night.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 15, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one last point
watch pti today
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 15, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dateline
Cool. Al even put a dateline on the story. Just so we know it happened in Milwaukee.
by Eli55 on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What a performance!
We all knew Z had no-hit stuff, now we’re sure of it!
Z had command throughout the entire game; not one hit ball required a stellar defencive play…and now the magic number is down to 7 for the division and 9 for the playoffs.
It’s getting exciting as the Cubs look a lot more refreshed last night.
A tell-tale sign I hope that continues? D-Lee’s 2R 2B. He took an outside pitch, went with it and drove it with purpose. No pulling off the ball, no opening the shoulder, just a great opposite field strike.
The more and more I watch this kid, the more and more I think Geo is the real thing. He hits very well, calls a great game, keeps his composure and can control this staff well. Boy this kid is not only NL RoY but a future MVP candidate as well.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Sep 15, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He won't win MVP this year.
But he’ll get some votes somewhere in the top 10 by some writers… I’m guessing he’ll finish in the top 15 overall.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I meant by 'future'
I don’t think he’d do it this year either. Hey, one thing at a time, right? This kid is still learning…..
Guess we can say that about Z as well. Z used to be just a thrower with great potential, now it’s starting to show. How long before he does the 27-up, 27-down? Who knows but like we’ve talked so much before about having no-hit stuff, he’s got perfect game stuff too; just a matter of time.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Sep 15, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got darn close last night.
One walk and a HBP — and after he hit Pence, I was worried he’d lose focus, because you knew that pitch just got away from him, about the only really bad pitch he threw all night. Instead he bore down and got better.
If that’s the new Z, he could be dominant for many years to come.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 15, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we settle for being dominant
For another 7 weeks?
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 15, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for that!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
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