Must we mock other teams?

no reason to talk about or worry about any other teams. The Cubs are in control.

But the problem is that there will always be a few jackasses who do that sort of thing, no matter how many calls there are for them to show a little class. I think that the majority of us here are with you, Shanghai Badger, but the few who aren’t simply don’t care what any of us have to say. It’s unfortunate that, at the moment, fans of a lot of other teams are judging Cubs fans based on the words and actions of a few very immature idiots, but that’s just the way it is.

That practice of laughing at others demise isn’t funny or interesting. Thanks for posting this. It’s something I’ve noticed and winced at over the past weeks.

We know what it’s like to be the “doormat” of the National League. It’s no fun.

But now they only bring fatigue To the home of the brave The land of the free And the doormat of the National League. — Steve Goodman

Let’s enjoy our moment as OURS, not because others are suffering because of our success.

I go to Cub/Brewer games a lot and I have to admit that the people in that area are awfully nice despite the fact that I’m dressed head-to-toe in Cubby Blue. And when I’m in the park, the banter is always good natured.

This sounds corny but I almost wish we could have a “fan exchange program”, to make it easier for Brewer fans to come to Chicago.

White sox fans worry about that crap. Who gives a damn about what other teams do. Take care of your own business and things will work out.

there are a ton of anti-Cub shirts and slogans, and I for one don’t understand it. I would never wear a shirt to denounce another team when I could just wear one supporting mine.

When the White Sox won I heard from several of their fans that were much more interested in rubbing it in the faces of CUBS fans than simply enjoying their triumph. I just couldn’t understand it. If I’m ever lucky enough to be in that situation, the LAST thing I’m going to think about is saying “nya nya” to other teams/fans.

I have been a bit distressed by some of what I was reading last night and today. I know it’s hard not to enjoy the moment and we SHOULD enjoy it- but not by tearing down others.

We’re Cubs fans. We’ve known the other end of the stick. Far too often I’m afraid.

Reminds me of a piece of advice I heard once was given to a football player who had just scored a touchdown and went into a gyrating end zone dance ("NOTICE ME!!!!, etc.).

Once he got back to the bench, the head coach pulled him aside and said “the next time you score, hand the ball to the referee and come back to the bench. Act like you’ve been there before”.

Classy and amen.

This needed to be said and I hope people will take it to heart.

over at the “other BCB” taunting Brewer fans last night.

I’ll give you one guess as to who the loser was.

http://www.brewcrewball.com/2008/9/14/614408/your-double-header-postgam#comments

And no, we do not need to be doing crap like that.

thank you

Now before everyone freaks out, let me explain. I agree we shouldn’t be ripping other teams fans on websites. That is just plain dumb. However, when it comes down to the end of the season and the team you are rooting for is about to clinch (like our Cubbies) you need to root for the teams behind them to lose as well as your team to win. Also, now that I think about it, even if it is early in the season, I find comfort in seeing the Brewers or Cards lose. That’s what makes rivalries so much fun.

with your sentiments, I think the focus should be on our team winning. However, other teams losing has an impact on our success. I don’t think anyone of us pays attention to only the Cubs. Thats why scoreboards have the results of other games on them. I happy to see other teams (Like the Brewers) lose, but you won’t see me being wise guy to my buddy the Brewers fan.

I’m even older than you (!) and remember a day when Cub fans didn’t boo their OWN team, no matter how awful they were. Things change, I guess. Can a WR catch a 7-yard square out and NOT thump his chest like he just hauled in an 80-fly bomb? “Act like you’ve been there before”: even it’s been 100 years!

Just as the Milwaukee fans do, I’ll attack the opponents when they’re trolling, but it’s pathetic to go post “nanny nanny boo boo” comments, just as it is pathetic to be negative and controversial just to get some attention.

Keep the faith, Badger!

I have been a long time believer that the Cubs and the fan base are hated because of jealousy of our support and love for the team. While it sounds silly and crazy i really do believe it.

I also think that people hate what they dont understand, and over the years, yes, we have all received some sort of ribbing because of the Cubs failures. I think it got worse after 2003 because the nation saw what type of fan base we are, an exremely large and supportive one. So yes we have taken our ribbings, and obviously some people feel now that we are on top they can rib back and fight back.

But think of it this way, if we lose in the playoffs, we will be right back to getting ribbed because of our failures. Kenny Lofton put it best after we won round one in 2003, “we havent won anything yet.” So why start talking trash now? Silence is a deadly weapon. Even if/when we win it all, are you honestly going to call a Cardinal fan? Brewer fan? Sox fan? Screw them, dont waste that moment on talking smack, enjoy it with the people whom are enjoying it. And if you are like me, i think fans of all the teams will take one second out of their hatred moment to be happy for the cubs (maybe not the white sox fans) and say hey they finally did it and i was alive to see it.

So i would totally agree, lets enjoy this together and forget about what we want to say or do to other teams, just forget it. They are fans, they are scared that it might be the year, and if it is not the year, you are only making yourself out to be an ass.

evil BCB, VEB, and SSS occassionally to see what their thoughts are on things. Last night after things calmed down here, I checked them out. I was not one bit happy about MDBNIU’s comments at evil BCB and I was just as unhappy with their childish attacks on NIU and their students. I could let attacks on the Cubs go, but that isn’t a game they were talking about, that is real life. I just don’t think that is right. Just wanted to explain.

this REALLY needed to be said. There’s a difference between good natured jawing back and forth with other fans and classless taunting. And what’s extra bad is that all Cub fans automatically get lumped in with those other knuckleheads.
Also, as far as when other fans attack us, I think it’s always better to take the high road and not get drawn into that kind of stuff.

I don’t mean, do we want to switch team allegiances. I mean, do we want to be those sorts of people. I’m not weighing in on either side right now, just asking.

I think that affords us much more freedom to “mock” and “rip” if we choose. It doesn’t bother me and I am actually entertained when a fan of another team, e.g., the White Sox, complain about it or engage the debate on a Cubs Blog.

I would like to think that Cub Fans, despite all the losses, failures, and heart-breaks have maintained a collective dignity. When we rip other teams fans to the point of stripping them of their dignity we lose our own. A bit of jovial ribbing is fine; as is an empathetic dig. But I don’t want to be a white sox fan…I root for the Cubs !!

BREWERS LOSE!

i sent the admin of evil BCB an email apologizing for comments left by purported Cub Fans mocking them and wished them well in the season. I was really looking forward to having a good clean race between 2 good fan bases… unfortunately they are struggling and segments of our fan base have gone ugly.

…………to write this after attending the game last night in Milwaukee.

Frankly speaking, I’ve never been more embarassed to be a Cubs fan than I was last night.

The majority of the “fans” I witnessed last evening in Miller Park gave me reason to look for another team.

Seriously.

If the crowd wasn’t 99.99% (so-called) Cubs fans, there would have been even more fights and ejections. How do you get into a fight with your “own” fans?!?!

Complete amateur night. Many around me didn’t even know it was a no-hitter until the 8th and it’s unfortunate most can say they were there.

to hell with this high road g rated stuff.
sympathy can be found in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
die brewers die.

i didn’t ask for sympathy during the hurricane. it’s not my first rodeo, won’t be my last. i survived katrina with ZERO help from fema, sba, (insert anachronym here). i lost my father during that storm, and my grandparents days after. we live down here with the caveat that it all can be gone in a matter of days. we subscribe to it just like this website. it’s the creole spirit. i was just letting everyone know i was ok.

on the above. what’s the point of a rivalry if you can’t have a go at your rival. it’s not like we’re making fun of a child with special needs or making personal attacks or anything racist. i don’t like the brewers. i don’t like prince fielder. i don’t like them because one of the guys i work with wears a stupid hat with a stupid M on it every day. i don’t like them because my neighbor is ben sheets cousin and he’s always on about this and that. i think their jerseys look terrible and cc sabathia gives me nightmares.

i’m sorry if i was out of line. i just flat out don’t like them.

Makes me keep my mouth shut and it translate to all the other sports I watch. WHen I go to games, I’m there for my team and my team only. I’ll banter if its going to banter. I’ll be damned though if I’m going to take it if it goes above banter. You get swung at by a White Sox fan for yelling at Corey Patterson dropping a ball or get peanuts thrown at you by Bears fans because Favre just threw another TD, you understand.

Every fan base is different. Every fan base as their good fans and bad fans. It’s ok to have distaste for a team but your distate shouldnt put your character in question. I am a Cubs fan, not anti-Brewers/White Sox/etc. fan.

again, it’s not like i’m making personal attacks like saying ben sheets cousin is a crackhead (although he is)

http://www.ebrso.org/jms.php/?inmate&id=1791&key=fa43ef706532d683542aae6d5eb994e6

i just want to see them lose.

I thought when I was young it was a peculiarly American sports thing but I’ve seen fan behavior all over the world in many kinds of sports and people associate with a sports team or even an individual (F1 drivers come to mind) like they do with their tribe or their religion or their little 5 square miles of the former Soviet Union that they now think should be a separate country because their dialect is slightly different than the people over the next hill.

It’s the ultimate zero sum game: you feel better about yourself when you tell yourself someone else is below you. Kris Kristofferson was right: Everybody’s got to have somebody to look down on. And Jim Morrison was right: People are strange.

Not everyone approaches sports that way, but I think it explains the people who do. And on the global spectrum American baseball fan behavior is way more civilized than Aussie football fans or football (soccer) fans almost anywhere.

And I am not an anthropologist but I play one on TV.

my fiance and i had a running joke about how every time ted lilly pitched it took years off my life and she would start looking for gray hairs…

after the molina pwnage…. and his last few starts. i remain cautiously optomistic.

I’m sure a lot of it is due to newcomers/bandwagon fans. I find I come to the site less and less as there is not as much real baseball talk. It’s just a lot more taunting and panicking depending on if the Cubs won their last game.

A lot of people won’t like this next comment but it shows that a lot of Cubs fans really aren’t that much different from any other team. They would be just as obnoxious as the Red Sox or Yankee fans if the Cubs had a consistent level of success.

Santo is the face of Cubdom (I know this may start an argument) but his blood is so blue that if a different shade of blue (The Mets) or any other color tried making its way into his veigns he would mock them until he felt better! And that is fine with me…. otherwise I agree with you for the most part

what type of person the individual is, not his or her relation to a team. A jerk is a jerk is a jerk, Cubs fan or Sox fan or any other fan.

I’m glad your sister is doing ok after the tragedy at NIU. I saw you posted that she was there after heybatterbatters comments, and I didn’t really get a chance to say that on that thread. Best wishes to you and her. :)

Real class here.

I for one am sick of trash talk from fans of a franchise that has NEVER won anything…

I go to a baseball game to enjoy myself, my friends and the game…..not to posture and antagonize. And i don’t buy the arguement that I paid for the ticket, so that gives me the right to act out……sorry…..don’t get it. I’ve been to symphonies in New York and never once have I felt compelled to stand up and scream at the horn section that the Chicago horns could kick their ass. I’ve worn my Cubs hat to a lot of different ballparks and for the most part been treated reasonably well. I have had to endure some boorish behavior in places….but it’s never made me want to reciprocate in kind. For the most part, I’ve found you don’t get much without giving.

Are we Cubs fans because we like the Cubs or Cubs fans because we want to lash out at Example A, B or C of how being a Cubs fan has given us the right to lash out.

Every person who likes any team has a reason to attack a different fanbase. That reason is normally one idiot of a fan. However, they have thousands of fans who give them no reason to attack another fanbase.

Unnecessarily attacking other teams fanbases only makes US seem immature. And being that idiot of a fan that enrages a crowd makes US seem like a**holes. I’d like to think that everyone here won’t be that one person that condemns our fanbase. Unfortunately, there’s no way to fix stupid, so we just have to hope that the idiots are just misguided, and not permanently idiots.

I’ll do my best to educate, let’s all do the same.

P.S. Sorry about the swear, no other word fits.