Four: Cubs 5, Brewers 4
by Al Yellon on Sep 17, 2008 8:18 AM CDT
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PrintWe stand on the cusp of history every single night, or so it seems. Last night's thrilling 5-4 Cubs win over the Brewers, reducing the magic number to four (thanks to the Marlins' 5-1 win over the Astros, the quirky little possibility that the Cubs could sweep Milwaukee yet not clinch the Central was eliminated), and also gave the Cubs 52 wins at home in 2008. That's the most home victories in a season since 1935 -- breaking the previous high, 51, set in 1984. (I've added a right sidebar box listing the top win seasons at home.)
Leaving the ballpark, it seemed there were way more people milling around Sheffield and Waveland than usual -- people starting to come down to the area just to soak in the atmosphere, even without tickets, and this is only going to increase over the next few days... and hopefully, deep into October.
Those who did have tickets saw a game in which none of the Cubs pitchers threw with their "A" game -- Ryan Dempster labored through six innings, giving up no runs and striking out nine through five, allowing only Prince Fielder's shot onto Sheffield that looked like it was going to hit the just-past-full moon rising over the bleachers; that made the score 3-2 and though Dempster trudged out to the mound to start the 7th (surprising us), Lou had no intention of letting him go past the 114 pitches he did throw.
The bullpen struggled. Carlos Marmol threw pretty well -- but Fielder hit his second homer of the day off him, muscling a ball to the opposite field, to bring the Brewers back to within a run after Alfonso Soriano had homered in the bottom of the seventh. Then Kerry Wood -- who we noticed in the bleachers had almost none of his best stuff while warming up -- fired up the radar gun to 96 and 97 MPH once he hit the mound. Even then, he gave up two hits and a run before floating a gorgeous breaking pitch right over the center of the plate, fooling Fielder for a game-ending K, as the crowd got just about as loud as I've heard it all year.
Earlier, two fine fielding plays -- one by Mark DeRosa, one by Reed Johnson, both flat-out dives to get sinking liners -- had helped keep the Brewers in check. Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee pulled off a nice DP to end the sixth, a play that got Brewers 1B coach Ed Sedar tossed, arguing that Lee had taken his foot off the bag; replays appeared to show that he had made the play. Meanwhile, Milwaukee was also keeping the Cub offense down with some nice fielding plays -- particularly one bouncer up the middle that J. J. Hardy prevented from being a hit. It was a well-played game, tense and exciting all the way through, something we should hope and expect to see continuing as we make our way to and through October.
Dave and I had a long discussion about whether a team should celebrate a division title on the field (he claimed the Yankees never did, just high-fiving and then leaving the field). He said no -- that should be reserved for winning the pennant or World Series. I disagree. Celebrating a division title is the celebration you have earned for success over the long six-month road to the postseason. It doesn't mean there isn't more work to be done -- obviously, once you get in you want to win -- but I think any team that's made the playoffs has earned the right to celebrate it, particularly in front of its own fans if the schedule breaks that way.
We hope that'll be soon, perhaps even by tomorrow. After that rough stretch to begin this month, the Cubs have won five in a row, gotten back to break-even in September (6-6) and look as good as they have all season. Since a 3-2, extra-inning loss to the Marlins on July 26, they are 31-14 -- their best 45-game stretch since they went an identical 31-14 from June 30-August 18, 1989. What perfect timing to go into the postseason.
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First!
Who’ll be #4?
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You haven't looked yet? It's been up since last night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
In the thread :)
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
and
you just became #4
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Sep 17, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, in that part of the thread I was #5.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
well, counting only comments, not replies...
I’m #4 on my screen, though I may be otherwise after servers sync up, But hey, nothing wrong with being George Brett!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Would there be anything wrong with that?
by ThisOldCub18 on Sep 17, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
hey, it's 8:30 am somewhere...
…like here! Barkeep – pass me another!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I said it Sunday...
and Monday…..
Second to Z’s no-no, that double by DLee on Sunday is going to prove to be a good ending to september and a great start to october. DLee is BACK!!!!
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
This calls for a nice, tall frosty... Whoops!
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 17, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions
Me too.
The new one with the ostrich burgers is the best. I like that they don’t take the beer.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
Anyone know who he is?
He’s created a great charactor.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on Sep 17, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
His name is Windell Middlebrooks
I guess he made an apperance at Miller Park sometime in July.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
...go sit in the sunshine, watching your favourite pitcher...
…get lit up?! Take him out, take him out! They can’t even hear me through this glass. Come on guys, I got’s to go smell me a hot dog or something.
That’s who I want to go see a game with anytime; not those schmucks in the skybox when he asks, “can anyone tell me what inning it is?”
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
That commercial cracks me up
particularly the end of the quote you started:
“I gotta go smell me a hot dog or something to make me feel alive!”
It is a great spot and the actor is terriffic
But why would Miller take….their beer out of somebody’s hands? (There’s a lot more going on under the surface in this ad campaign) The spots are creative and funny, but I keep waiting for somebody to call the cops. Perhaps SNL could re-write a new ending….
The spots seem to imply that Mller is now aiming….for a lowered-income customer. Guess “Miller Time” is only for the blue-coller, now. Until this campaign, they haven’t been able to market this brand with any consistency. (Remember they tried to have the ‘woman on the label’ tell stories? That campaign imploded under its’ own stupidity.) Miller Lite/MGD are Miller’s major sellers, but the flagship brand has fallen on hard times. Now, it appears the brand is now aiming at those who buy Old Milwaukee, Keystone, and the like — “regular guys.” This brew isn’t for those who have significant incomes. (And, they NEVER advertise Miller High Life Light)
("But we paid for that beer, officer — arrest that man!)
Now that’s what I’M talkin’ about…
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 17, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I both love and hate these commercials. It has under the surface some class envy going on. “This is our beer, don’t those people have it.” is kind what this commerical says to me, but I still find them very clever and funny.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
Exactly.
They’re funny cos the actor has great timing, but they’re the very definition of pandering.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
These ads are a jab at the “elites”. They are basically saying, “this beer is for you, the common man, not those snobs.” The irony is they are asking the common man to line the pockets of the real elites who make the beer (it’s not as if Miller is a mom and pop outfit).
The ad at the baseball game goes further in this direction than the previous ads, where he doesn’t take the beer away from the customers, but instead from stores or bars who are charging too much for the product (at least that’s my recollection).
by SuperContext on Sep 17, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
He converts the tailgate
to something appropriate with regular burgers and let’s the elites keep the beer.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
"Take him out! Take him out!"
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
i agree al
celebrate on the field…..winning the division is definitely worthy of celebrating and i think we know by now, this team likes to celebrate
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
What a difference a week makes
This time last week we were contemplating a possible Cubs collapse after blowing a game in St. Louis. Now the Cubs are once again large and in charge.
I so hope they can sweep this series so I can be in attendance for the clincher.
let the record show
i’m a proud member of the “not on the ledge” crowd
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I remained off the ledge most of the time
I was getting ready to climb on if the Cubs had dropped another game or two in St. Louis, though
by SuperContext on Sep 17, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Not me, I was there and proud ...........
ledge all the way!
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
please do not read as Lidge all the way!
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe
I said in post somewhere on here that I was not on the ledge, but I was about six away from it.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
I edged toward the window at one point...
…but never got out on the ledge.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I was a pround member
of the ‘hiding under the bed during the 9th inning’ crowd. Cats, move over…
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 17, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
My name's Drew
and I’m not on the ledge.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Hi my name is Shawn and I'm a Alc...
Oh, wait sorry wrong metting.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
I was headed toward the edge....
but I had just poured a nice cold Old Style and didnt want to waste it before assuming my seat on the ledge. Good thing for beer, eh?
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
i remained firmly off the ledge as well
but i was about 3 seconds away from mashing the panic button and screaming.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Changing moment in September....
in my opinion was when Lilly bowled over Molina in STL. Since then i dont think we have lost.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
You guys are right.
Sometimes it takes a galvanizing moment to turn things around, something unexpected like that to fire up a team. Man, did that one work.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Whether he's pitching, batting or running
catchers fear Ted Lilly.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
he's bowled over catcher in one game
almost threw a no-no in his next. What does he do in his next start to top those things?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
bats 8th!
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Soto does not fear Ted Lilly
He feeds on the awesomeness
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 17, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Soto was not born
he was created from Ted’s aura to fulfill his need of a catcher that matches his awesomness
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Soto is the Eve to Lilly's Adam.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't sound quite right.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 17, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
uh....
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
uh...
how about no?
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i know
i laughed.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Awkward!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 17, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a...
…take notice moment, no doubt. As a player, you look at that and say; “holy shit, our starting pitcher just bowled their catcher with his pitching shoulder”. Tends to pump a fella up a tad, especially when things aren’t going your way.
To add to this, I would also mention Reed Johnson’s breaking up of the double play in the first game of the series the Cubs swept in July. Remember, the Cubs were down in the 7th and that was a fairly routine double play ball that gets Milwaukee out of that inning. Johnson had the presense of mind to get a bigger lead (Fielder was behind him) so he would be right on top of the 2nd baseman when he tried to turn 2. That was a big, big play.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
agree with the Lilly
crunch job on Molina, I thought when I saw it " Lilly stood over Molina for a couple seconds, and said enough of this"
Good call.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
me I was saying omg what a stud
he deserved those words normally only uttered to refer to Geo
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't September, but my changing moment was...
…Reed Johnson’s tremendous diving catch way back early in the season. The one where he slid into the wall, flipping his hat brim up, and Wood’s in the bullpen with a WTF expression on his face…
Great play, but the kicker for me was the way Reed got up, and nonchalantly flipped the ball into the air and catching it again, then he just trotted in, like he does this all the time.
Brought to mind Gary Barnett’s motivation nugget in his pre-sleaze days when he coached Northwestern football. “Expect Victory!”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
And they didn't even win that game.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Fontenot's pinch-hit double...
to give the Cubs the lead in the July 27 Marlins game is my turning point nomination.
The Brewers had caught the Cubs and were beating Houston. The Cubs were trailing 5-0 to the Marlins. It all turned around in the span of about 30 minutes, and the Cubs haven’t looked back.
Man it would be so cool...
if somenone could compile all of the great Cubbie moments from this season into a video montage and post it on youtube.
That would be great thing to watch in a couple weeks heading into the postseason. Wish I could do it!
Keep checking YouTube.
I’m sure someone will do it in one form or another.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
If somebody knows how to download video from MLB.com
I would be more than willing to make a video montage. The only issue is me getting the video off mlb.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 3-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. Buffalo. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
The casual just-doin'-my-job-Ma'am attitude
is really amazing. No fist pump after the amazing play, maybe a brief exultation at most, then back to work.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 17, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
He let DeRo and Demp’s stunned silence speak for him.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i love reed johnson
he’s been so much fun to watch this season.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That was awesome.
I was there and felt, even though he was out, that I had seen something special.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a good point.
Other teams do not have rosters. Just a list of players Ted Lilly allows to live.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Ted Lilly doesn't really throw the ball.
He uses the power of his mind to teleport it into Geo Soto’s glove.
And then he uses leftover power to make you think he threw it.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a shame Ted Lilly isn't pitching tonight.
He could reduce the MN from 4 to 0.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I was not on the ledge
but I was pacing near it, contemplating a leap after losing 7 of 8
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 17, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
they should celebrate on the field
especially if they can clinch this weekend at Wrigley.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I agree with you on this, too, Al.
IIRC, there was some talk last season about not celebrating the division championship too much. I disagree – it’s a huge accomplishment worthy of celebration. The Cubs are almost there.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Abso-f***ing-lutely
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 17, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially if it's Saturday
(said by the man who just secured tix)
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
And a National broadcast on FOX.
However to clinch on Saturday means we lose at least one to the brewers so I say NO, Clinch on Thursday.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
I'm with you.
Get it done.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I didn't say they shouldn't clinch earlier.
I said they should have the celebration on the field if they clinch Saturday.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I agree, celebrate on the field.
ASAP.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I want to see FOX stuck with
the ambulatory Cards visiting the hung-over Cubs
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by Goat Whisperer on Sep 17, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You meant to say clinch Thursday...
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
I am getting giggly
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
hey Al, Prince's bomb went out to Sheffield, not Waveland.
I should know – had it been Waveland, I could have caught it. But it’s too much for these tired old bones to run over to Sheffield for the lefties, so all I could do was listen in agony…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Actually...
he launched it into the lake, but I think I see did it fly over Sheffield on the way.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 17, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The funny thing about it was....
I saw Cheeseburger pose for a minute and it pissed me off, but then i said to myaself, eh hopefully Soriano will hit one and do the same. And he did.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Actually...
I think it was that Cubs 5-3 double play the inning before. All the Brewers were pissed, and Hamburglar looked especially vengeful about it.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 17, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
He was quoted as saying
“Robble robble robble!”
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 17, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
You’re right. The OTHER homer was to left.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
another thing
i usually say players can admire their homers all they want
but when your team is spiraling out of control, you still are down 3-2, prince looked like an idiot for getting cocky
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
The little respect I had for Fielder went totally out the window last night.
The guy hits a bomb (absolute shot) poses, then jaws at the fans all the way down the 1st base line. Very professional bro. The pose I can take it’s the jawing at the fans that I find ridiculous. But I guess this plays into the Cubs favor… This Brewer team gets consumed about a lot of stupid things: Jawing at fans who called him Cecil, worrying about what is and isn’t a no hitter, their right-fielder who got voted in by the fans to the all-star game ripping those same fans for booing their poor play. No wonder they aren’t winning, there is obviously too much other stuff consuming that team.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Again pointing out the complete lack of leadership they have.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Agree...
Even though the Brewers have a soft schedule after the Cubs, I don’t think this team makes it. Around all that talent, That leadership is missing.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I'd argue...
…that the Brewers suffer from the same offensive woes the Cubs had in 04. They have a talented lineup, but a very one dimensional lineup of free swingers. These type of offenses do well mid-season, but tend to struggle when the pressure mounts and scouting reports tighten up.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Add to that the lack of leadership...
… we are familiar with the results. Milwaukee may be in for the same.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
On leadership
As much as the Brewers want to maintain their we-got-it-under-control façade, that attitude got Yost fired. He had as much control as a car with a blown tire, and the Brewers were rumbling toward the retaining wall. They did the same last year, watching an 8 1/2-game lead June 23 evaporate into a second-place crash.
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That does make a lot of sense.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Well said.
And next year could be worse.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they're missing a bullpen
and defense a lot more than they’re missing “leadership.” And if Ryan Braun and Corey Hart decide to slump—well, CC Sabathia and Prince Fielder can’t beat a good team by themselves, as proven last night.
The only “leadership” they are lacking is a leader who wouldn’t let Brian Shouse face a right-hander. Apparently, Sveum is no better in that category.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 17, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I had the Brewer telecast last night...
and he was. Looked like a big roid rage. The commentators mentioned it. I thought he was jawing at the dugout trying to get them fired up. But then after watching the replay a ton of times and then him still yelling when he was walking back to the dugout, it was definitely at the crowd. Jsonline confirms it:
Fielder jawed throughout the game with Chicago fans behind the Brewers’ dugout, who taunted him by calling him "Cecil," a reference to his father, with whom he’s estranged. As he rounded the bases on a monster two-run homer in the sixth off Ryan Dempster, Fielder shouted back at those fans.
"When they don’t say my name, that (makes me mad) a little bit," he said. "That’s not my name. Say my name."
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
wow
if calling him cecil really pisses him off that much, i’m sure that is going to follow him everywhere
unless his response is to hit bombs like the one last night
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Yeah... he and his Dad are estranged. Lots of hatred toward him.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
i knew they hated each other
just surprised he lets fans know it gets to him…..wait no i’m not
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
From what I've read, I'm not sure Cecil hates Prince....
It’s Prince’s anger at his dad for whatever reason, and his little childish psychology that is preventing any kind of father-son reunions…
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Actually...
I think it’s that Cecil robbed him of millions that’s the problem.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 17, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Really? Didn't know that. Sounds like a real nice family :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Cecil acted as Prince's agent
when he signed his first professional contract. He then gambled away pretty much Prince’s entire signing bonus.
Cecil wants to “make up” and “make amends” but Prince isn’t having any of it.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 17, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't the IRS
come to Prince too looking to collect on Cecil’s tax debts or something like that?
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
From what Josh said, it seems that the IRS would have come
to Prince to get a piece of the signing bonus, and Prince probably had to tell them “Look, my dad gambled away all the signing bonus, I’ll have to pay you the taxes due after I get my first paycheck!”
Man, sounds like a real bad situation…maybe I should start lovin’ fatso a bit more….he’s had a hard time of it….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
My cat's named Cecil
after Cecil Taylor…but I really enjoy the fact that this is a detested name for Fielder.
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
Nifty.
My cat’s named after Archie Shepp.
by sniffy the bee on Sep 17, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
That's awesome!
My kittens are named Ayler (after Albert Ayler) and Misha (after Misha Mengelberg).
by John Q Freejazz on Sep 17, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the fans behind the dugout told him
that they had eaten the last of his nachos or something, because he was pissed!
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
This is why they lose though...
Fielder is more concerned about what the fans are saying. Yost was more concerned with CC getting the no-hitter. I mean seriously.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Damn, looks like the Wrigley faithful got into Veggie Boy's head.
Well done.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
And now that it's known that it really bothers him
he’s sure to get it everywhere.
But, in his defense, that is rather disrespectful of the Cub “fans” to do that all night (if, indeed, it was all night).
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm all for taunting and getting in a guy's head
but going into their personal lives is a bit far. And if it leads to two-homer games, it’s way too far.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
true
i guess it is his dad after all……it’s easy to not think about baseball players as real humans, however if he lowers himself to the same level and jaws back to the fans, then i don’t feel bad
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Right.
I’d have more respect if he hit the shot, put his head down, and let that speak for itself.
But I can also understand taking that such to heart that you wanna make those who did it hurt as much as you are.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Give him a few years, see if he turns it around
He’s a tremendous baseball talent, but still quite the angry young man. And if half of what I’ve read is true about the whole father/son thing, Prince has more than a few issues to work through. Some players can make that anger work for them (Sheffield), some self-destruct (Strawberry). Others turn it around and get their heads straight. Griffey Jr. was a bit of an ass when he first came up, but clearly has become of one baseball’s leading citizens.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I would
worry about him eating his way out of the league, Goodness. I know it was mentioned he is a vegatarian, oh really.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
Candy bars and ice cream are still ok to eat though...
and I am sure beer is ok too.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
We'll have to disagree I guess...
from where I’m sitting’ he’s a one-dimensional slugger who’s career one expects to be cut short with weight-related issues. Can’t field. Can’t hit for average. Can’t run, and a little disruptive to the team.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 17, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I tend to agree with you.
His window for production is closing pretty quick. DH in my book.
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totally agree.
There is nothing tremendous about him except for his size.
Pujols is tremendous, Fielder had 1 season where he hit 50 HRs. That doesnt make you a tremendous player. He is good, but not that good (all the reasons you listed).
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Without getting into the personality issues
because I don’t know about that, Fielder draws a lot of walks. He’s probably a player like Boog Powell or Kent Hrbek—you’re right in that he’s going to eat himself out of the league, but those guys didn’t do that until they were about 33 or 34. He’s still got a decade of dominance in him.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 17, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure...
If you can manage the weight well enough to limit injuries in the meantime, and move him to the AL, where he can DH 30-40 times a year. But you’ll need to start managing how you utlilize him in the next few seasons, which really isn’t the mark of a “great” player.
by Damen Jackson on Sep 17, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize he was jawing at fans.
(Just watched the replay on Gameday and it doesn’t show him running to first base.) But, yeah, the pose didn’t bother me all that much. I mean, he did hit the thing a mile and it’s not like the Brewers have much else to celebrate right now.
But Fielder’s tendency to take his frustrations out on others (fans, umpires, his own pitchers) is a big reason the Brewers are NINE games behind the Cubs in the division and in dire jeopardy of missing the postseason altogether.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Guess they yanked Parra out of the starting rotation too.
Wednesday will be the match a lot of people wanted around here:
Harden and Bush.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Oh, my.....Harden vs. Bush sounds like a movie title starring actresses with names
like Jenna Haze or Traci Lords
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Let's call it "The Porn Game."
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Let's gang bang this thing and go home.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of that camp fire sing-a-long
Knock Knock…….
…..Eisenhower Who?
I’s an hour late for the gang bang…..
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Harden came out on top of Bush
the last time they met – in the 4 game sweep at Miller Park.
Lots of good double entendres in that game thread. Much like a 13 year old school boy, I’m looking forward to more on Thursday ;)
twss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
harden came out of top of bush? that’s so wrong for so many different reasons
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm tellin' ya...
…if there’s a play at the plate and Harden slides into Bush we will NEVER hear the end of it.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
And if he's safe
the crowd will explode.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
holy cow, I think he's gonna make it!
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
An Len
yells “Oh Baby!!”
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
*And
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
I just hope Lou knows when to pull Harden out...
leaving him in too long can have unwanted ramifications.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 17, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
are you Catholic, too?
Yay, I get to use that joke 2X in 2weeks
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 17, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
No..I'm the father of 3.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 17, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet the photographer who takes that picture...
…will call it a money shot.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Ha!
And if the ump takes a moment to make the call it will most definitely be a pregnant pause.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's just hope
that Harden’s helmet stays on when he slides into Bush
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Harden always uses protection.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
batting with a helmet
takes away half the fun.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
they there is no pill that will protect Harden’s head from a fastball
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
But if he removes the helmet
they make him slide in the backstop.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
ain't nothing wrong with a little
backstop ball to change the pace.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I've seen Harden throw a mean backdoor slider.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
And the sensitivity
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
and uses the slide step
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
fail
a twss on a deliberate double entendre defeats the whole purpose of twss
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oh
i was so excited to do the twss, i didn’t finish reading the rest of his post lol
-1 me
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
ha
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
-1
For nominating yourself. The award show hasn’t even been announced yet but I hear Russell Brand is a leading candidate to host.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
What's all this? What's all this?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 17, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I had thought of you when that happened wondering which street you were on
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Dang, I was hoping you caught that one.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I dearly hope that Lou
sits Howry for good from here on out. I’m so glad he pulled him after that walk and after, what? a total of 6 pitches? Couldn’t understand why he put him in in the first place.
Whatever. Onward to the postseason!
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Hope?
He was hoping he would snap out of it?
Remember right now we do not have a 7th inning guy.
Samarja seems to be that guy but he walks way too many people.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
yep.
I’m giddy about the team but worried about the 7th inning.
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In the playoffs...
How about Marquis in the 7th (or 6th depending)? I think he deserves to be on the playoff roster and the middle relief is a gap.
by Rick Rueshel's Paunch on Sep 17, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That would scare me
Marquis still walks too many people for my comfort
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Gaudin
is supposed to be back by next week, assuming he continues to progress as he has
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Gaudin, in my opinion, is the key
He is everything that Hory no longer is. Fastball/slider with good control and few walks.
With Gaudin healthy, the Cubs bullpen should be just fine.
7th- Gaudin/Cotts/Samarzjia (sp)
8th- Marmol
9th- Wood
blowout win/loss- Howry
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 17, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought
Marquis historically had not been very good coming out of the pen. I assumed he was one of those guys that needed a set pre-game routine to set himself mentally to pitch.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I don't know how he would do mentally it those situations..............
but I think he deserves a role in the playoffs, he has been a real benefit to this team as a 5th starter
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by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
It may be a little early to say...
…that Samardzija walks too many guys. In 23.3 innings of work, he’s walked only 11 guys. And his K:BB is 21:11. He’s had only two outings this season when he’s walked more than one batter – his last appearance vs. Houston and on Aug. 29 vs. the Phillies.
In any case, I almost fell off the couch when Lou put Howry into a one-run game. I’m just glad he pulled him as quickly as he did.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
maybe
Howry was the only one warmed up, and Lou knew Demp had to come out?
it’s sad when we’re glad that Howry only WALKED the guy, tho…
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Angel Guzman was warm....I just cant fathom why Howry made an appearance in a one run game
….He should be allowed to dress for the rest of regular season and then fade off into the sunset.
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
it is weird............
Dome is in big time dog house, but Howry appears to be immune from the dog house…………..hmmmm, someone has some dirty pictures
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by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
At least the leash was short
on Howry last night. So glad to see Lou come out and get him after the walk. Even saw some fands get up and cheer Lou as came out of the dugout.
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and boy, did they boo that walk!
I was booing from the couch. Howry makes me so mad I could spit.
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Yeah on 4 straight pitches too
sad but at the same time, you’re glad it wasn’t a double or HR and that Lou pulled him.
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I know its hard to watch...
…but I think Lou sees what Howry has been able to do in the past and he knows it would be very nice to see if that pitcher is still there for the playoffs.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
This is what I don't understand
I really like the fact that Lou gives pitchers more chances than I ever would to work their way out of slumps (remember Marmol’s?) but what I can’t fathom is the fact that Howry hasn’t pitched well all season long and still Lou trots him out in critical situations. I’d rather have anybody else on the mound. Anybody.
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Lou HAD to let Marmol work it out
The Cubs had no other option nearly as dominant as Marmol and thankfully Carlos got himself right again. With Howry, I really don’t understand how many chances he’s been given. Last night would have been the perfect time to see if Guzman could have been a playoff contributor
I understand...
…and I think its the fact that Lou puts a lot of value on being able to recapture the Howry of years past and to see if that pitcher can be found before the playoffs.
Heres the deal, Jeff S. has really good stuff, but his inexperience (and recent performance) is pushing Lou to see if he can draw out the Howry who has been through all of this before and has had good success.
Howry has a track record in pressure situations and Jeff S. doesn’t. Lou is giving Howry every opportunity to show he can still do it. How much more leash he gives him, I don’t know.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Could have been.
n/t
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
We seem to say that...
…after every one of his appearances, though.
by sniffy the bee on Sep 17, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Lou comments on Howry...
…in this article from today’s Sun-Times. Key quote:
’We’ve got some candidates [for the postseason roster]. [Bob] Howry’s got by far the most experience. We gave his arm a nice rest, and he responded well [Monday]. Let’s hope that continues."
It does seem like Lou just cannot break free of the idea that Howry is his seventh inning guy. I just don’t get it. It’s Sept. 17 and the guy has a 5.43 ERA. Let it go!
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Mancrushes, some people have them
But it’s time for Lou to break free of this one. N-O-W. Because Howry is D-O-N-E.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Dear Lou,
We don’t care what the pictures are. We won’t be shocked. Let Howry release them. We’ll love you anyway.
Sincerely,
Cub Fans Everywhere
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The decision would come down to
two of the three of Howry, Gaudin, and Guzman. I would take Gaudin for sure if he is healthy enough and between Guzman and Howry, I don’t know.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Yep, I said it when Gaudin came over from the A's.
Gaudin is the new Howry. Guzman’s got great stuff, too, but he hasn’t pitched much over the last year or so and is probably still an injury risk.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I agree,
so I think Howry still makes the postseason roster
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
noooooooooooooooooo
(at least I’m consistent)
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I don't want him there either
but I don’t know if I want Guzman or Howry there, I suppose I know what Howry has been doing this year, so Guzman is a better option
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
I honestly believe absolutely anyone is better than Howry
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Antonio Alfonseca
Tommy Lasorda
Lee Arthur Smith
Dennis Eckersley
Dave Smith
Dwight Gooden
Chan Ho Park
Roberto Novoa
do you honestly believe your blanket statement now?
is that
Tommy Lasorda NOW?
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm...
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds likeq
Lou is addicted to Howry “crack”
come on, Lou. Just say no.
that was before last night's game
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
my heart broke last night
when dome struck out looking BAD
i thought yikes, this could be the nail in the coffin for him this year
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I know............anyone have a picture of a lost puppy (bengi anyone)
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by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Facing Sabathia...
…and the other lefty coming from the side, was about the worst possible matchup he could have had.
With that said, Fukudome does look like a beaten man, and it will be intereting to see how Lou tries to put him in the right situations to boost his confidence.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Bunts.
He is just not seeing the ball, and when he starts i would get him to bunt 2 out of 3 abs.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
That's a good idea.
Would help him get his confidence back.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Sure wouldn't hurt...
…and it would be nice to have the left handed bats (Edmonds & Fukudome) contribute in the playoffs. It will make the lineup much more difficult to deal with.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
When the Brewers brought Shouse in
I was surprised to see them pitch to Hank White. I thought for sure they would walk him and pitch to Dome… who I don’t think would have had a chance they way he’s been going. Call it a rookie manager’s mistake?
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+1
Really seems obvious. Cos I’m sure they knew Lou would want to keep Dome in for his defense.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the Milwaukee media would have ripped Yost for that and
no one is really saying anything about that move… Which turned out to be the winning run!
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Sometimes you just try and trust your pitcher.
It worked out for us last week against Pujols, and last night against Fielder. Both situations had an open base.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
But...
Situational Lefty Shouse (who gets lit up by righties) vs. Dome would have been a much better match up for them. That was the best possible match up for Blanco. Guy doesn’t throw hard, comes in side arm so righties see the ball the whole way. In the Cubs case it was the closer vs. their best. power vs power.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Maybe that's why he's a third base coach.
Good for us, though. Hope he’s got two more brilliant managerial performances in store in Chicago.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
No doubt...
Get this over with sooner than later. Get some rest and see what happens in October!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Probably...
…though Dome did hit a double off Shouse in one of their three matchups this season. Maybe that’s why Sveum pitched to Hank White. Either that or maybe the Brewers hadn’t updated any of their numbers on Dome since June.
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The saddest moment for Dome
was when he flailed at that first pitch… the ball was somewhere near his shoes.
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nah.
he’s still got the best RF glove in the game. Sabathia is a FANTASTIC pitcher AND a lefty.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Mine too.
Dome looked hopelessly overmatched against CC. Kosuke’s a bench guy at this point, and I think he’s disciplined enough to serve the Cubs well in that role.
To add to the sadness, this Paul Sullivan piece from today’s Trib speculates that Dome could lose his postseason spot to Pie if Felix gets hot.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
That does require
that Lou play Pie to see if he could get hot
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
I really don't see
how we don’t bring both.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't either
like Al said before, there is no reason for 12 pitchers on a postseason roster
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Fukudradle
Everytime he K’s he’s spinning out out control. And tell him to fix those divots, damnit.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Call me weird
But if we lose tonight or tomorrow I hope we win Friday and the Brewers win Friday night so we don’t clinch when they lose but hopefully with a win on Saturday.
Go Cubs
Not weird at all
I want the Cubs to clinch with a win so the fans can have that moment to celebrate.
by SuperContext on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
ugh
i know exactly what you mean, but i’m torn
i’m attending my last game this regular season and would like to be in wrigleyville that night when it happens, however i wouldn’t complain if they got to win their way into the playoffs, instead of waiting for another team to lose
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I was in the same boat last year
I had tickets in Cincinnati to the next to last game on Saturday, the Cubs won on Friday night and I wasn’t sure if I want the brewers to lose that night or not.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
Weird
Me too and that whole thing was weird but at least the Cubs were in the clubhouse when they won. They’ll all be home by the time the Brewers even take the field on Friday.
Let’s get it done.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 17, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a beautiful day...
…let’s play two.
That way we can clinch today!
by sniffy the bee on Sep 17, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Motion from the floor recognized
And seconded!
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by sanantonecub on Sep 17, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Question....
If we win tonight, does anyone have any suggestions as to when I should arrive at Wrigley to get Standing Room tickets for tomorrow? I would assume extremely early if it was a weekend (which I will be doing on Saturday more than likely) but how about tomorrow?
Thanks!
Wow, that's hard to say.
It’s a Thursday afternoon game… I wouldn’t ordinarily expect a lot of people there early. But for a game like that… who knows, there may be people lining up overnight. I wouldn’t even begin to try to guess.
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Go tonight, and hide in the men's room until tomorrow's game :)
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by RIOTSHIRTS.com on Sep 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Did anyone else think it kind of odd
when Soriano took that unbidden bow to the crowd?
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
he is an odd fellow
isnt’ he
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Sori is just in his own world..................
i use to think he was trying to be little Manny, but now I just believe they share the same brain
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I will take
him in the Cub world, the guy can change a game, more to the positive than not.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
the big difference is
manny doesn’t care what the fans think about him, sori certainly does
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
he was just jokin' around.
they’re all getting a bit giggly.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think someone dared him
He certainly looked embarrassed after that and smiled at a teammate. Sounds like it was some sort of dugout prank or dare.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 17, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what the Cubs Cast guys think too
that the dugout was playing a bit of a prank on him … heh
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
I believe it
The funny thing is, I believe Sori’s the perfect candidate to bite.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
I love those guys
they crack me up
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Prolly why he came out with both arms open
then looked at the team like, “I knew they weren’t cheering!”
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
and he hit the bottom of the stairs
and started to laugh. it was hilarious.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I was figuring...
9-9:30 about the time we get there to be one of the first for the bleachers. I got standing room for the second to the last game last year even when the line stretched all the way to the Harry Caray statue.
Does Lou have a man crush on Howry?
I really can’t believe he is still being used in important spots. Boggles my mind. His fastball topped out at 88 or 89. Soriano made a nice play against the wall to save Howry, (the first time I can remember Sori didn’t look deathly afraid of the wall) because every time he pitches he gets hit hard.
In regards to whether the Cubs should celebrate when clinching the division, we aren’t the Yankees, we aren’t “Cubs nation”, the players should do what they see fit, not compare to what other clubs have done in the past. I don’t see them celebrating on the field and then losing site of the most important goal.
It seemed as though most Brewers fans don’t know what to think, a lot less hostility last night than other Cubs Brewers games. Except for the 1 guys that got tossed and in the process pushed a security guard, bad idea. Al, you probably saw him down the line in left field.
Lets do it Cubbies
I noticed Sori's fearlessness with the wall too
He’s playing MUCH better defensively these past few weeks.
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
I'm quite lazy
Or else I would look this up myself, but when was the last time the Chicago National League Ball Club won back to back division championships?
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
Good reason to celebrate
n/t
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Sorry I was going write more but my boss walking in
They have never won back to back division but in 1906, 1907 and 1908 they won back to back to back National league pennets. That was long before division play.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
The last time they won back-to-back championships
of any sort was 1906-1907-1908.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 17, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Worked in the evening
lucky I can follow on the computer. Got off work, driving home at 10:45 eastern, can get 72WGN on radio, Pat and Ron where great. Sat in the driveway listening to Pats call on the strikeout of Prince. Man Ronnie, I don’t know, I hope he makes it, or maybe it is just our preception and its not as bad as it sounds, but by the sound of it Ron had a tough ninth.
This is why I love the Cubs, sitting in my driveway at 11:05pm, Camden Delaware, cool fall night, and Woody the current Cub who has been through the most, gets Prince looking
Walked into the house with a huge smile.
Go Cubs, keep the petal to the floor.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
no I think Ronnie had a rough 9th.
I do worry about him.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
OT
the Cards have been eliminated from division contention. Anyone have the dead bird in the road?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
Not a big Cards guy either
However, give credit they hung in there, with a banged up team and a make shift rotation and pen.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
i doubt they roll over for us
pujols and TLR won’t let that happen……if anything they are gonna love to play spoiler if the opportunity presents itself
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Or try to start fights...
They are still probably sour over Lilly taking out Molina. Wouldn’t be surprised.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
yep
someone’s gettin’ hit.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It's okay.
The Cubs will have their fall jackets out to protect them. The fall jackets the Cardinals won’t need this year.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Cards made it much farther than they ever should have
so you have to give them credit for that. But TLR and crew can play their hearts out against us this weekend, cos I’m hoping it don’t matter a bit.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I give them all the credit they deserve
but the picture makes me laugh.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Sep 17, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs are not the Yankees...
this would be, what, the 5th division title since 1945? Both 1984 and 1989 clinching games were on the road, correct? 2003 was at home (game one of a doubleheader, I think, but didn’t they have to wait to see what the Astros did?). Last year was just bizarre… waiting around after the game in Cincinnati for the Brewers to lose.
If the Yankees want to treat winning like it’s old hat, I guess they’ve earned that right. A division title is, while not the ultimate goal, a significant accomplishment, and I’d be disappointed if the Cubs didn’t celebrate on the field.
they clinched after winning the 2nd game in 2003. Things fell into place—we won game 1, the brewers beat HOU, and we won game 2 to clinch
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago what do you say,
The Cubs are gonna win today!
"back to carter, the pitch,,,,,
…….a little pop fly to grace…..he’s GOT IT….THE CUBS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS, THE CUBS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS!" – pat hughes
“partner, partner! i know these fans and i’m a fan….i’ve been waiting for this for so long, this is a year that i’ll never, ever forget…..WE’RE IN THE PLAYOFFS!” – ron santo
i have this clip on my ipod, listened to it enough times that’s a rough translation
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Gotcha...
I was sitting at Sloppy Joe’s in Key West during those 2003 games, and my dad was calling me with updates. I wasn’t exactly… umm… sober.
Still, if they’re fortunate enough to do it, a clinching game against either the Brewers (no scoreboard watching necessary) or the rival Cardinals at Wrigley would be a rare opportunity.
should the starters be rested?
when the cubs clinch, they will likely have at least a week left. should they rest the starters heading into the playoffs? the yankees used to do that and it seemed to work.
Lets Play Two Today
i think they start the games
but are left in for a five innings or so, then pulled
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
no way.
If we clinch by this weekend, i would give them Monday off (like a typical day off), and possibly thursday of next week. But have to be business as usual.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Right.
You don’t play them for five innings every day — they’d get rusty. That’d be like spring training all over again.
They sit for a day, then go back to playing every day — especially since after this weekend the games would all be vs. the Mets & Brewers, who are battling for the wild card.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Billy Herman and Don Zimmer!
Excellent choices for the magic number, Al.
(I should point out, though, that the link under Billy Herman’s name goes to Keith Moreland’s stats.)
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
Shoot.
I meant to change that. I’ll fix it. Thanks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Ugh.
Blauser. Bad memories.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Very good backup paid strong starter money.
See also “Jason Marquis”
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How about Rammy?
He seems to have a good at bat almost every time up these days. (knocking on my desk which is probably not real wood) Being down 2 strikes to CC and he goes with the pitch….unselfish, smart and effective. It’s nice to be able to have confidence in your middle of the order guys.
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Probably the best pure hitter
the Cubs have had in my lifetime.
His ability to take what he’s given and make the most of it is phenomenal. Brenly pointed out that Ramy was completely fooled by CC’s breaking ball, but extended his swing and flipped it over Counsell’s head for a 2 run double.
Sometimes he swings for the fences too much, but he is a great hitter.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 17, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Best Cub clutch hitter
in years
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
I love that he adapts (usually)
He will be aggressive in some spots, but shorten up and look the other way when he gets down 2 strikes. I like guys who seem to understand game situations and that you don’t need a home run every at bat.
Here here.
There’s nobody on the roster, not even Fonzie, that I want up in the clutch more than him.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
he's gotten much better at choosing when to be aggressive
all the walks this year i think are the step. if they’re giving him nothing, he doesn’t get himself out anymore.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't he
- too?
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Al... Do you think they should replace Wrigley?
Story in Tribune about players wishing they had something like Miller Park. I am torn… I love Wrigley but understand that time marches on.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
i'm okay with the suggestions
of building a replica off of pieces of the current stadium, like keeps the outfield wall, bleachers, scoreboard
but how much history does the grandstand really have?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Agree...
…retain everything from foul poll to foul poll and rebuild the rest.
I would imagine the new structure would be quite a bit higher to fit in as many suites as possible, but the total seating capacity would stay about the same.
I understand the players discussion of amenitites. I have been in both home and away clubhouses and they are very small compared to the league average. The big thing though is proximity of batting cages, weight rooms and training facilities so they can be beneficial.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I started a Fanpost about this topic early this morning
Which Al’s posted in…
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 17, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
how crazy is it
that all year we assumed the brewers would make the playoffs, either as the wild card or the division champ……and now they are .5 games back in the wild card
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
they make great decisions
Glad they waited to pitch CC against us (which we kill) instead of Philly (that they got swept by)
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Just shows...
how much managing has to do with things. Yost bitching about CC’s no-hitter was silly, he took the focus away from what was important and placed it on something that is not important.
Fielder yelling at the fans yesterday – why??? Ignore it, i am sure it wasnt the first time a fan said something to you.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
but yost wanted to tell his kids
20 years from now that he managed a no hitter! what a dumbass, i’m gonna miss opposing him
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
oh, I'm sure he'll be back.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
There is a fine line...
…between knocking the train back on the tracks or completely pushing it into the ditch. This is where a manager really earns their dough, in understanding what their particular team needs to get back on track when the inevitable bad streak happens.
Here is the big difference; players may not like what Piniella says or does all the time, but when they look at him, they see a winner that is going to do everything in his power to get the team to the promisedland. In Yost, I think they tended to see more panic vs Lou’s – “we need to roll up our sleeves and kick some ass.” He put it all on the team and not some variable they have no control over. Was it a coincidence theat Lilly runs the catcher the very next game? It could have been, but I think it was the right message at the right time.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Celebrate on the field
bring out dozens and dozens champaign bottles, just like they did in 1998.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
I still have a bottle of champagne
That Terry Mullholand threw me in the bleachers from the one game playoff in 1998.
I'll crack open the champagne when we win the division
It really isn’t something that happens all the time. We aren’t the Yankees, we need to celebrate every chance we get.
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me too!
and it’s going to be the finest champagne the local gas station has!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
anyone else for maybe a little grape juice to celebrate with?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
This reminds me.
I need to spackle my kitchen wall.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I know it's childish,
but “spackle” is one of those words that always makes me chuckle.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
In 5 years...
maybe it will be old hat and we wont celebrate.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
fyi
tuesday next week is scheduled to be
santana vs. harden……get ’em rich!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Here's to that game
Not Mattering!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 17, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
amen............let's hope
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
also if that game ends up not mattering............
rich harden will NOT be pitching in it
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 17, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Harden WILL pitch...
… because they want to keep him on schedule. Expect him to be on a pitch limit, though.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
This is a big game...
…for him after his velocity was down a good 4-5 mph his last outing.
I have a hard time believing he just decided to ease up that much, and I hope he stays healthy.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
That game will matter
we can help determine who makes the playoffs, Milwaukee or the Mets. Don’t know which team I would rather be a potential opponent in the playoffs.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
For some reason
the Bears Super Bowl shuffle comes to mind:
So bring on Atlanta, bring on Dallas,
This is for Mike and Papa Bear Halas.
Bring on Sabathia, Bring on Santana,
This is for Harry and Papa Cub Santo
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by tony412 on Sep 17, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is fantastic
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
On celebrating
Those aren’t scripted, they’re spontaneous. I think there will be a little celebration, but my guess is that it won’t be as much as, say, 1984 or 1989.
No, the Cubs aren’t the Yankees — but they want to be in the sense that winning is the culture. I think they feel that there is unfinished business, and they aren’t going to go wild over a division title because they want more.
We’ll find out soon by their response if that’s correct!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 17, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions
Oh, and again
Since I posted this in the overflow after 1 AM, getting home from the game:
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 17, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
that and milton are my favorite :)
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Last night was
amazing. I am here from San Diego for the last six home games (5 if they clinch, because Sunday I may opt for the Bears instead). Got up to Milwaukee for Monday’s game. That was incredible. What a great start to my trip. Oh, and met Ryno, my favorite baseball player of all-time, at Murphy’s before the game yesterday. So awesome.
Celebrate on the field...
… in the clubhouse, on the streets, wherever. Just do it ASAP!
"I wanted to win that pennant worse than I wanted any goddamned thing in my life. You'd think I could just this once, wouldn't you?" - "Pops" Fischer
What a win.
I had things to do last night, and WGN radio is very spotty, but it came through loud and clear for the eighth and ninth. This was almost exactly like the Cardinal game last week: chance to take the lead, top hitter at the plate, base open, another good hitter up next. And Woody got it done.
My night was fully made after watching the recap on Baseball Tonight and seeing that tonight’s game is on ESPN. Oh happy day!
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Joe Morgan...
Yay….happy… : /
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Sep 17, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Better than not seeing it at all.
Oh, mute button, how I sing your praises!
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Joe Morgan
only does Sunday night games. So it will be Suttcliffe, probably
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Should be Suttcliffe & O'Brien
not Miller/Morgan, they’re only on Sunday.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if there is no field celebration...
There won’t be room for any automobile traffic on the corner of Clark and Addison!
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
In years past WGN does live coverage after a clinch
I’m sure they will localy but does any know if they will on WGN America?
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
not sure if this answers your question
but last year, when the brewers lost, wgn cut into scrubs and went to the wgn newsroom to announce the cubs clinched and then cut to their locker room
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I switched over to WGN when they clinched last year
but since they have rebranded to from WGN Superstation to WGN America I afraid they may not do it this year.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
good point...
Which has made me wonder why they dont just block off the entire surround area for home games during playoffs. Yes i live in wrigely and it would be a bitch to get around – but in the long run it is much safer for people.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Finally
DLee is starting to hit for more than just singles. It’s huge for the Cubs to have Lee hitting for a little power heading into the playoffs.
Lets do it Cubbies
Celebrating...
I think they should celebrate, but nothing as extravagant as last year’s champagne soaked party. The theme for this division title should be “Unfinished Business”. Save the real celebration for the real goal at hand.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
Yes. Act like they've been there before and recognize what the REAL prize is...
"Unfinished Business"- I like this as the official playoff motto. Anyone second this motion?
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)
As Kenny Lofton said in 2003....
We haven’t won anything yet.
Yeah, the magic number is four, but think about it. There are still five games left with the team chasing us. It’s easy for them to catch up, especially given that we play nothing but plus .500 teams the rest of the way. Indeed, as it stands right now, we play all of our games on the road next week, against teams fighting for playoff spots.
I just can’t relax until we clinch.
Go Cubs.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 17, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
We only need to 4-8 the rest of the way
not counting the September 29th game if it’s played. I think we can do that.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It can actually be 3-9 if
one of the wins are vs the brewers. Plus the 4-8 assumes the brew crew goes undefeated.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
Right.
Didn’t mention the Brewers cos them going undefeated in the state that they’re in is not a realistic possibility.
I will feel really happy and relieved when we officially make the playoffs, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel pretty darn confident right now.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Rammy interview after the game
on CSN, refused to show any signs of an early celebration, instead stressing nothing has been won yet and anything can happen.
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Agreed.
This team seems to approach everything with the right attitude and determination.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Exactly why
I wouldn’t think celebrating on the field would deter them from focusing on the big goal.
Lets do it Cubbies
That filters down from Lou
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Sep 17, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Edmonds has been a help as well
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
why would anyone be celebrating?
We haven’t clinched anything yet.
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 17, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Because tomorrow
is Sanantonecub’s birthday. We have to celebrate that and if the Cubs just happen to clinch tomorrow night all the more to celebrate. :D
+1
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
All of the plus .500...
teams are playing very bad baseball right now.
Wood is making me nervous
I hope he’s getting back on track. Seems to get himself into too many jams in the 9th. I DO like the fact a few days ago against the Cards with the game winning run on base, he struck out Pujols, and last night getting Fielder in the same situation. Just wish he’d stop making it so damn interesting!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Can't help myself...
TWSS
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
approved....
Just wish he’d stop making it so damn interesting…. is twss if I ever saw one. :)
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else read Suly in the Trib
saying Dome could be potentially left off the postseason roster? Guess i just hadn’t thought about this…
Kosuke Fukudome could be pushed out of a postseason spot if Felix Pie has a hot finish. Because Fukudome is no longer a starter, manager Lou Piniella has to consider the strongest alignment for his bench.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 17, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
unreal how far he has fallen
Im not pronouncing his career over, but right now it looks like he is a $48 million waste of money. As nice as his D is, that AB last night further proved he can’t handle major league pitching right now.
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come ON!
it was Sabathia! We already know Dome has a problem with LH pitching, and it’s CC freakin Sabathia. No way Lou was expecting Dome to do anything huge there; Dome was in the lineup for his glove.
He’s NOT a waste of money. He hasn’t gotten nearly enough time to prove that either way.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Even the best right handed hitters have problems with CC, there was no way Dome was expected to succeed in that match up.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Uh doesn't matter who he has been facing lately
He has looked awful at the plate. I want Dome to be good, but he isn’t what we thought he was, and he has been a waste of money this season. Hendry took a risk and SO FAR it hasn’t paid off.
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that's not true.
he hasn’t batted a ton, and he’s got some good hits.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
We will have to agree to disagree on Dome
Lou has made his position on him clear. We won’t be seeing much of him the rest of the season.
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So you don't think he makes the postseason roster?
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he makes the postseason roster
He has value as a defensive replacement, I can’t argue that. Having his D in RF won us the game against the Cards last week, and thats not the first time he has done that.
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Agree.
I think maybe he’ll get more time to work on things after (if, for you superstitious lot) we clinch, but I doubt he starts in the playoffs. Good to have in the field for the eighth and ninth, though.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Who know what could happen
Maybe he gets 10 days worth of starts at the end of the season and he gets a hot bat. That would be awesome, but I don’t see it happening.
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Prolly not, but you never know.
Either way, I’m not worried.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that you set the postseason roster
to give yourself the best chance of winning, but if they leave Dome off, does that forever damage him on this team? To be so highly touted and producing early on to Marquis status?
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
There ain't no way...
…Dome is not on the post-season roster.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
That's what I think.
There is too great an investment in him to keep him off the roster.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I would think so
for the reason that we have enough firepower to carry him, even if he’s not hitting well. A run saved in the field is the same as a run scored IMO. Playoff games are low-scoring and we will need his defense. Hell, even our pitchers are RBI guys! LOL
If he DOES hit, we should be in real good shape.
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I don't think he was a waste of money at all
he had a hell of a first half of the season when soriano was injured and the rest of the team wasn’t hitting up to its full potential.
Plus, he has saved a number of runs/games with his glove in right
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
and it is his first year...
i think before we Jacque Jones him i would at least give him one more year.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
I agree.
Dome had a fantastic first three months of the season. He’s obviously fallen pretty far, but my guess is Lou has decided to just take the pressure off him entirely by putting him on the bench and letting him continue to get major league experience in the hopes that he can turn things around next season. I think it’s too early to say he’s a waste of money.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
way too early
and if that truly is Lou’s logic, more power to him
The next step will be the World Series -- Carlos Zambrano
Agreed
BUT if that is Lou’s Logic why-o-why does Howry even see the mound anymore?
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
He may view pitchers and hitters differently.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Howry has a MLB track record, Fukodome does not.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Sep 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Howry has a track record of FAIL in 2008....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 17, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
but i’d be VERY surprised……sounds like he just need a topic to write about
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Pie made the roster...
… in place of a pitcher. The Cubs don’t need 12 pitchers in the postseason.
Keep both Dome and Pie for defensive/pinch running purposes.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I was just thinking the same thing
If they only take 11 pitchers, then both Pie and Dome can be on the postseason roster. Both can be used as pinch-runners and defensive replacements late in the game. That’s quite an outfield defense, Soriano-Pie-Dome.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
And if you're simply trying to hold a late lead
you got Reed-Pie-Dome.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Even better!!
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
That's the outfield...
…I was looking forward to seeing all season. Funny how things work out.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I like this idea.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Interesting.
However, Dome could be used in the defensive replacement/pinch runner role that Fuld provided last year. Would Lou carry more than Soriano, Edmonds, Johnson, Pie as outfielders? I guess it would be a decision between Ward and Dome.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
It seems as though Sullivan is suggesting
that Pie would be just as good, if not better defensive replacement/pinch runner that you mention…Don’t know if I agree, just sayin’…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 17, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
D-Ward wins that battle every time
His bat is only 100 times more likely to get a big hit.
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Any word on Gaudin?
It would be awfully nice to have him back into the mix. Prolly would make Lou less likely to use Howry.
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As long as he's avoiding
Clark St., curbs, and dumpsters, he should be just fine for the PS.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Well all that can be avoided if he just drinks somewhere safe
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Gaudin got hurt bc he fell into a dumpster while wandering the street late at night
Tell me that isn’t alcohol related
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Prolly the sparkling cider.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
or someone w/ him could have had just cider and made sure he drank safely
I’ll volunteer for the job if it needed.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 17, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
"We're going home, Chad.
Yes, home. No…that’s a dumpster."
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait, seriously?
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
That's what I was thinking.
I kept hearing talk about Gauding being out and was afraid I missed something. Google searches brought up nothing.
How does one fall into a dumpster anyway? They’re not at ground level. Only the inebriated thinks, “Walk the rim of a dumpster like a tight rope? You know I can!”
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
HA
Not literally into the dumpster, apparently he was attempting his own sobriety test walking the curb and failed miserably failing into the side of the dumpster, back first?
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Ouch!
Maybe he fell into that handle that sticks out on the side.
Wow, I hadn’t heard that at all, but here’s confirmation from Gordon Wittenmyer’s blog.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
That's awful.
But I laughed nonetheless.
Hope he’s fine for October. He’s the seventh inning pitcher Lou desires.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 17, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure sounds like it.
Hey, Chad, buddy, we’re kinda tryin’ to win a championship here.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
May be available by this weekend
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 17, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
woohoo!
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 17, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Great Sign in the stands last night
Real Magic numbers
ACOOOOOO
Would it not be sweet
Lets hope and pray
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
someone who is smarter than me
can you break down who you think will be on the post season roster?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm not smarter than you, but
DLee
Rami
Soriano
Theriot
Soto
RJ
Edmonds
Cedeno
Fontenot
DeRo
Dome
Pie
Z
Demp
Harden
Lilly
Marquis
Wood
Marmol
Shark
Gaudin
Howry
Cotts
Marshall
Thats prolly not right, and no doubt I forgot someone important, but thats my guess.
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I want Guzman
I don’t think Lou trusts him. Maybe if he gets some innings after we clinch.
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Random question
Anyone else think Joe West is a spitting image of Charlie Weis? I was just waiting for Fielder to trip rounding the bags and fall into West, taking him out.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
I hope they clinch with a WIN
Rather than waiting 2 hours for the Brewers to lose and then celebrating.
These last 5 games...have been "clinching" wins for me.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 17, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Last nigiht's ninth inning...
…turned the game into a bit of a “clenching” win for me.
OK, now that I’ve told that joke, I really want to say that I felt oddly calm during the ninth last night. I just had a feeling Woody was going to get him. That slurve was wicked.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I had no doubts.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 17, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions