Bleah: Cubs 6, Cardinals 12
by Al Yellon on Sep 19, 2008 5:51 PM CDT
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PrintWell, the weather was nice.
That's about all there is to say about today's goofy 12-6 Cubs loss to the Cardinals. If you split the game into two halves, the Cubs lost the first 4 1/2 11-0, but won the second half 6-1.
It doesn't work that way, of course, and the game was really over in the first inning when Carlos Zambrano, coming off his no-hitter, started throwing a "no-outer", letting the first four batters reach base and then giving up a grand slam to Adam Kennedy. In so doing, Kennedy doubled his HR total to date this season in over 300 at-bats. It was wind-aided, but it didn't matter. Z was just as bad in the second inning, allowing two more hits and eventually three more runs (one of which scored after Sean Marshall relieved him), and Lou was, according to his remarks at the postgame news conference, irritated with Z for leaving the mound before he came to get him; Lou told him to go back there, and I think that's the least you can do to show some respect to your manager.
Turns out Z's grandmother passed away and he spent most of the time in his days off since the no-hitter traveling back and forth to Venezuela. I can understand Z's mind not really being on his work today, but Lou didn't have a whole lot of other choices -- he was asked that at the news conference but got pretty exasperated; Marshall would have been the only other choice, but can you imagine what the buzz would have been if Marshall had been sent out to start today instead of Z?
The 1.2 inning outing tied this June 22,2005 game vs. the Brewers for the shortest and worst of Z's career; if there's consolation in that, Z faced Milwaukee again six days later and threw eight shutout innings. It's also the second-most runs scored off any pitcher in his next start after a no-hitter; you can find a list here in the cubs.com game recap, and there are a couple of Hall of Famers on it (Dazzy Vance, Catfish Hunter; Jesse Haines is in the Hall, too, but probably shouldn't be).
In any case, when it got to 11-0 Lou emptied the bench and played the rest of the day like a spring training game; only Mike Fontenot (and three Cardinals, Kennedy, Skip Schumaker and Jason LaRue) played the entire game. In that sense, it was a good day to give some of the regulars a rest and give some of the bench players some AB's; Daryle Ward had a good day, with two doubles (I asked Mike, "When do you think was the last time Ward was on third base?" -- after he had gotten there twice. He couldn't think of one. The answer appears to be July 6 in St. Louis, when he had a pinch-double and got thrown out at the plate on a Mike Fontenot single); Ronny Cedeno had a hit and walked twice, and Felix Pie had a nice AB in the 9th, winding up with an opposite-field double.
Conspicuous by his absence from this mass lineup turnover was Kosuke Fukudome, who, logically, should have been inserted in RF in the fifth, with RHP coming out of the St. Louis bullpen, to give him some AB in a non-pressure situation. Instead, Reed Johnson played the rest of the game in RF and Dome only appeared to pinch-hit for Michael Wuertz in the 8th, coming up with an RBI single. Could Dome be left off the postseason roster? It doesn't seem possible, given his defense, but Felix Pie made a case for himself to be included today. Since the Cubs are likely to go with an extra position player rather than 12 pitchers, Pie could be the guy added. Who's odd-man-out? Maybe Bob Howry, although he threw a decent 9th inning.
The Iowa Cubs made an attempt to make the score look respectable in the ninth, with a walk and two doubles scoring two runs and forcing Tony LaRussa to yank Kelvin Jimenez, who was in line for his first career save had he finished the final three innings; instead, Ron Villone came in to strike out Johnson to end it.
I met BCB reader dtpollitt and his dad today; they sat with us and seemed to have a good time despite the result, and they'll be in the upper deck tomorrow. The Cubs ought to be able to shake this one off pretty easily; sometimes it's easier to put a blowout like this behind you rather than a tough late-inning loss. If the Brewers lose tonight, the Cubs can clinch by winning tomorrow afternoon, and even if Milwaukee wins, they can clinch with a win and a Brewer loss. And no worries about the minor injury to Geovany Soto; he didn't have to participate in the carnage today and Lou said in the postgame conference that he'll be "fine".
Finally, the Cardinals have a player named "Brian Barden" and also a player named "Brian Barton". Even though they are easy to tell apart:
Barton
Barden
... this sort of thing shouldn't be allowed. One of them is going to have to go to another team.
Hey, if you can't have a few laughs after this... right? That's all you can do. Let's get 'em tomorrow. Your official discussion thread for the Brewers/Reds game is here. Go Reds!
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FIRST
Just to say it can be done.
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
Just heard on Strike Zone Central...
That Zambrano is back on a plane to Venezuala right now. Hope he is able to take care of his family, that comes first.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
Wow, he had to go back a second time?
In that case, they probably SHOULD have skipped this start.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
That's the way I heard it...
Something about “left after the game”
Could of meant the game the other day, but I’m not sure.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 19, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou got cranky with the press
when they questioned his playing Z under these circumstances. They had a point, but betrayed their ignorance when repeatedly questioning the “jet lag” incurred … there’s no time difference! Z did mention that his legs felt tired which is entirely understandable. Press thought Lou should have played Marshall instead. They may have a point but why piss off the manager in the process? Lou was not impressed.
We had fun in the game thread. Not that we paid much attention to what was going on in the field.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
And Emelie made some awesome stuffed peppers!
Mmmmmm…..
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Sep 19, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And gave us all a lap dance too!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
on my way to Iowa City yesterday...
…great opportunity to listen to the game! Uh, CD player was up and running by the 3rd inning.
sue369: No, I’m not a Hawkeye; my wife is. Came out for new AXO house dedication.
That was the BEST
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 19, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
actually
it was a GREAT game thread. One of the more enjoyable ones we’ve had, certainly, during a loss.
Al, there was at least one guy who got flagged a few times, tho, check your email.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey! Those were safe for work pics!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
no, no...
those were GREAT, and I think you should do them EVERY thread. ESPECIALLY Steeler Girl.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Men!
I yell from the kitchen…
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
you guys get to see
Geo Soto EVERY DAY!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN radio reported that has grandmother passed away last night.
….I find it really bizarre that he started the game today under those circumstances, especially considering he knew he would be going to Venezuala.
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
I guess he wanted to experience
What a playoff race atmosphere is like.
Since the 20,000 fans at the Cell don’t make one.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Sep 19, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
dang straight
Smellular Field STILL .. this past week didn’t come close to enjoying the attendance Wrigley has.
It always amazes me, and my SIL who is a Sox fan never is able to quite answer this .. WHY, if the White Sox have such great fans, do they never turn out to watch their team?
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
I've given up with the argument
All they have to say is that whether they play in front of their usual 20K-25K or sellouts every day, they have a ring and we dont. I haven’t been to the Cell since they’ve poured all the extra money into it making it look respectable. I’ve heard nothing but good things since they’ve done it. Maybe I can get a better feeling of why after next Friday.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
I went to a White Sox game last month
at the Cell and liked it. They have done a nice job with the ballpark. I hadn’t been there since the first year or two after it opened.
The only bad part about it was that the Sox won. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 19, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It's OK if theSOX win....
just as long as it doesn’t inflate their ego…(or make fans thinlk it’s OK to rush the field an beat people in the ears)
The best defense is a good offense
Felix sure didn't make a case for himself...
….as a defensive sub with that throw to home. Ugh. Cut off man, Felix, cuf off man.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
At the game today
Just a couple thoughts:
-Al, I didn’t realize you had the fancy footwork that you do when I saw you get out of the way of a batting practice rocket towards you in the bleachers.
-My brother and I decided that if we were watching the game on TV, we would have turned it off and if it was MLB 2K8 it would have been restarted.
-Good to see the Farm play somewhat decent. Casey had the first 2 RBIs of his MLB career on some groundouts.
-To really stretch it, it was good that Z was able to throw on schedule but not over extend himself and that everybody got at least one AB as Fukudome’s appearance marked the last position player off the bench.
-WGN was saying it works out better anyways because if all goes well they can celebrate at home in front of 40,000+ instead of by their lonesomes.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Yeah, that ball was a rocket!
If I’d have had a glove I would have tried for it, but I didn’t want a broken hand.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Good news about Geo...
….could it be the hand that he’s always shaking when he misses a good breaking ball? Len and Bob always comment when he does that, but it’s never been explained if that hurts him much or not.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
It did seem Lou raised the white flag
when he trotted out the expanded roster guys. Can’t say I blame him. The mojo just wasn’t there today.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
wrong white flag
I wish it had a W on it
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 19, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals 12, Cubs 6, featuring the bizarro Cubbies!
Daryle Ward gets 2 extra-base hits, Casey McGehee drives in 2 runs, Bob Howry pitches a scoreless inning, Fukudome and Pie get RBI hits.
Meanwhile, Zambrano gives up 8 runs in 1 2/3 innings and Aramis Ramirez fails to come through in the clutch.
Everyone be on the lookout for flying pigs.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Paging Dr. Stragelove....
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
Original Album Cover
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
lol! you nailed it.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
rough game today huh?
Yikes… now Zambrano has almost as many excuses as Houston
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 19, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
no its a fine excuse
but it is funny how everybody here is saying that the Astros should just suck it up, they are major league ballplayers and that is no excuse to get no hit… no excuse? You mean they dont play at home on a home day, their city is evacuated, their homes and families are in jeopordy… but when big z losses his grandmother, whiich is a GREAT excuse for a bad game, i understand that, but everybody seems to flip flop, instead of going with their original argument that its a major league ballplayer that gets paid a lot of money to do what he does
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 20, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
You make a good point but
I haven’t heard Big Z compain about it or blame the lose of on it. Or making goofy t-shirts. Everyones complaint was about the Astros whinning about everything not that they played poorly
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
Z was very apologetic about his outing
he appeared quite humble and chastened in his press conference. I felt badly for him.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Z Will Be Fine Come October
I’m expecting the “no hitter Z” to show up in October. Not that he’ll toss another hitless game against the Dodgers or Phils or Mets – I’m talking about the focus and sharpness.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Unlike the Astros, Zambrano didn't look for a scapegoat.
He even aplogized to the fans.
To me, this one’s on Lou. He should not have sent Zambrano to pitch yesterday under those circumstances. It was better to let Zambrano rest and mourn than to grant his ill-advidised wish to pitch.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 20, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too
If I remember hearing correctly when talking about him his grandmother was a huge influence in his life and one of the big reasons he is where he is today.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 20, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Fukudome...
How can Piniella even think about leaving Kosuke off the post-season roster?? The $48 million man not playing in October? Ridiculous.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
He's not playing now.
Why would October be different?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I don't know...
…if a righty is throwing for the Cards tomorrow, but if so, I predict Fukudome gets a start and makes a posiitve contribution to the clincher.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It's Joel Piniero.
Yes, Dome could start today (Saturday). If he makes a positive contribution, that’d go a long way toward Lou giving him more playing time, especially in the last week, to try to get him back on track.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Offense Is So Much Better With A Good Dome
Captain Obvious, I realize, but the hitting attack is more well-rounded and relentless when Dome is collecting his hits and walks.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
I would be shocked
Dome will be on the roster, I predict a bid hit in the playoffs, in at least one of the games
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
i think fuk u do me will be on the roster... atleast for a pinch runner late in a game
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 20, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
that wasn't necessary
why insult Dome?
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
really
To think Dome is not busting his tail to get better, he would like nothing more, and so would Lou, to be in rightfield hitting the ball again.
So your ill attempt at humor failed.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
I believe she was
talking about you insulting him by saying his name the way you did. That is disrespecting him and an insult.
Not that it matters much
But the Brewers are down 5-0 in the 3rd.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
6-0 now...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Just Carlos being Carlos
He’s still got to go out and get the job done, he got some days off and it was time to go back to work. Walking off the mound like that isn’t what you want to see from your Ace. But I see it as just a blip.
Cue the Astros Fans (Skip Bayless) wanting an asterix next to Z’s no hitter.
Oddly enough I was at that ’05 game in Milwaukee. I remember walking over to watching him warm up in the bullpen. I blamed myself for that loss as It was my 1st trip to Miller Park.
Hey - is the replay of the no-hitter on WGN-9 in Chicago or not?
All my ‘guides’ say ‘regular programming’. HELP!
Wait a minute... who am I here?
Yes!
Should be on WGN-9 and WGN-America both. At 10 CST.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
OK, thanks. My DVR is gonna freak out - I'm going to have...
…to tell it record ‘Family Guy’ and ‘stop recording 2 hours late’ – LOL – damn you, Comcast digital guide…
Wait a minute... who am I here?
And they're replaying it again tomorrow night at midnight on WGN-America.
In case your recording screws up. Not sure about Channel 9 tomorrow though. I’ll have to check.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
8-0
Reds.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
Thank you Dusty!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I had a hard time
even following the game today. Hopefully tomorrow will be a huge day for the Cubs and their fans.
Same here
I listened off and on to the radio while driving. Going through the game threads, looked like you guys had a pretty good time though. Except for the guy trolling for Theriot arguments.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Oh, we had a good time
with him too, I just don’t think he realized.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
True that
seemed like he was mostly pimping his blog. Too bad Cwyers didn’t come on…he would of ate that guy alive.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I'm interested in why...
Cuz you are way far more loyal than most….sincere ? by me after the fact
The best defense is a good offense
Having problems with our
DirecTV receiver and the tech guy was here working on it and he needed my attention. Still not working right. :-(
Let's just hope ...
for NO MORE HURRICANES…..and lot’s o :)’s come late October…..
The best defense is a good offense
Not really sure.
Ordered a second reciever in one week just a few minutes ago. Told them this time I wanted a new one and not a refurbished one. Hope this one works.
Brewers have folded up the tents
and gotten on the train back home. This is Exhibit A in the “team going through the motions” exhibit.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
Looks that way
9-1 in the 5th.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Be nice
to see the Cubs celelbrate tomorrow at Wrigley following a win. Perfecto.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
10-2
in the 6th!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
The only bad thing about clinching Saturday afternoon:
Having the Fox announcers call it on TV instead of Len and Bob.
At least it won’t be Joe Buck. Since he’s not interested in baseball anymore, he’ll be doing football on Sunday instead.
We'll still have Ron and Pat.
I don’t necessarily mind clinching on national TV.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd imagine that CSN and/or WGN will give you some locker room shots
once the window has closed for FOX.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
is there a way to tell which game I'll get on FOX?
I live in Philly, and I’m not sure which Fox game I’ll have to endure
by philadelphiacub on Sep 20, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
This one's all on me, guys...
Last night, I said that I would continue to do the predictions, then I was too busy to do them this morning before I left. The Cubs have a much better record when I do them than when I don’t.
I will make sure to do them tomorrow.
Please accept my sincerest apologies (hanging head in shame for neglecting her duty),
DMH
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I really don't think it
would have made any difference. They just didn’t have their hearts in it today.
Sorry...quit feelin sorrry 4 urself...
It has NADA NIL NOTHING to do w/ you………MANANA CUBS will be NL Central Champs…feel mgood…go bears…..crappy 2 days…Cubs managed to steal 1….they ALL count..
The best defense is a good offense
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
drawn by that darn cute son of yours?
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Dumb question...
…and YES, I’m jealous that I missed all the fun in the game threads. Theriot has hit .269/.353/.332 since the All-Star Break. Does that worry anyone?
Yes and no.
Yes, because he appears to be wearing down like he did last year.
No, because the team is still winning.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
.332 slugging, huh?
Must’ve gotten a triple.
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
worry?
I don’t know. He’s regressing back to his normal patterns. So he’s meeting expectations, right? :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Kind of
It’d obviously be better if he could be the table-setter that he was during the first half of this season. I’d like to see Lou give him a few days off.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
If he duplicates those...
…numbers in the playoffs, the Cubs should be in good shape. What I want most from him is to make the plays in the field.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
yesssssss
i know Lee gets alot of grief for his DP balls, but Theriot really seems to have been hitting tons of DP-type grounders with runners on base, he’s just fast enough to not get doubled up. It also seems that the only threat with Theriot at bat is that he’ll single, so for instance if there’s a runner on first with 2 outs, there’s not really a chance of Theriot driving him in, you can only hope he’ll extend the inning. Thats getting frustrating, and won’t be a very good thing in the playoffs. I’d really like to see Derosa in the 2 hole in the playoffs, with Theriot in the 8, but i doubt we’ll see it.
by philadelphiacub on Sep 20, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
You got your tickets already?
I’m still waiting for mine.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yesterday
I am a combo plan holder. Did they do those first?
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
Maybe.
I got my FedEx tracking #, I’m supposed to have mine by Wednesday.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I got my tracking # on Wednesday
The FedEx site said delivery expected by Tuesday 9/23. I laughed – how many days does it take to FedEx from Skokie to Schaumburg? I ended up receiving them the next day (Thursday – yesterday)
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
Are these available for Saturday delivery?
Or do I have to wait till Monday?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Hmmm. Probably not.
What does your tracking say this morning?
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
It was at the sort facility by 9 pm last night.
So, maybe today.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Probably be Monday
If it was today the tracking would probably state “on vehicle for delivery” or something like that.
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
Talk to Ryno for me!
If you think what LaRussa is doing is bad, at least Barton is an outfielder and Barden is an infielder.
Ryno continually used right-handed relievers Jon Mueller and John Muller in the same game—often having one relieve the other.
That was ridiculous.
It's nothing like the '62 Mets, though.
They had two Bob Millers, both pitchers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yeah, but that was Casey Stengel
He probably thought they were the same guy. He wasn’t doing it intentionally.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 19, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the story I heard Sean Marshall tell in an interview
about both his twin brother relieving him in a game in college and most of the crowd didn’t realize it was a different pitcher!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Sep 20, 2008 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions
OVER....quit losing sleep.....
I officially decalre Cubs NL Central champs…..blah…blah…blah…..This racce is ove…my fear is too soon for the Cubs playoff lives…
The best defense is a good offense
PHILS LOSE 14-8
Marlins on fire
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ok
so how does the Wild Card look now?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
With the Mets-Braves still playing (NY up 7-5 in the 8th)
New York
Philadelphia – tied
Milwaukee – 2 GB
Florida – 4.5 GB
Houston – 4.5 GB
St. Louis – 5.5 GB
By the way, Cubs would be 6.5 up on New York for home field should the Mets win tonight.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
so if the Mets lose
the Phillies have the lead for the WC?
This is going to be fun to watch them all fight it out.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
No, if the Mets lose
the Philles have the division lead and the Mets have the WC lead. If the Mets win they take over the division lead.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 19, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
oh!
duh. Ok.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Mets win
they lead the NL East by .5 game over Philadelphia, who leads Milwaukee by 2 games for the Wild Card.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 19, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured it out
The Cubs misunderstood. They thought it was Play like the Pirates day not Talk Like a Pirate Day
Go Cubs
That was actually pretty funny!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 19, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I can see the Z
being upset. Each family situation is different. Sometimes Grandparents are closer and more of your parents than your actual parents.
Onward, hope it works out.
I did get a kick out of Lou pointing his finger at Z basically saying “get your ass back to the mound”
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
Clear your head BOY (nino)
Next starrt is strating for all the marbles…
The best defense is a good offense
I believe I read that Z was raised by his grandmother.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Sep 20, 2008 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
That's sad.
He was contrite at his press conference and said he was going to apologize to Lou for his lousy performance. Poor guy, under these circumstances he’s forgiven.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
the way this team is
The way this team has become such a group I have a feeling if this was the offseason and passports weren’t a problem more than a few fellow Cubbies would go with him.
As it is I wonder if a coach will fly down.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 20, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
So this is a tough time.
I mean the guy throws a no-no, then his grandmother is ill, talking about highs and lows.
Get well Z.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
For all the Dusty haters.....
Raise one…
Cuz …no matter …I’ll bet Cubs are NL Central Champs manana
The best defense is a good offense
Le'ts seee how they deal w/that....
PS……anyony think Dusty feels a minor small bit-0-loyalty????
The best defense is a good offense
Actually, no.
But I bet he was glad to see his team play spoiler last night, no matter who it helped out.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I vote Charlie Grimm for No. 1
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"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
FYI
The guy in the middle with his hand on his face is “Jolly” Charlie Grimm. He doesn’t look very jolly in the picture, but he’s probably smiling tonight up in his skybox.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
you know the last time the Cubs went back-to-back years in entering the playoffs where?
07-08, and we aint talking 2000’s
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
I'm just saying that out of amazement...
seriously, generations have lived and died without seeing the Cubs go two straight years in the playoffs
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
I was thinking the same thing the other day.
We’ve all seen a lot of things the Cubs have never done in many peoples lifetimes this year – hopefully there’s a much bigger one waiting for us all.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 19, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 19, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Let the Cubs just win a series...
to get the monkey of pinella’s back…:) (as well as….)
The best defense is a good offense
and .... iain't postin this on evil bcb......
BUT…..24 runnners left on base??
The best defense is a good offense
No, it's not 24 left on base.
The boxscore lines for each player add up to 24. (Actually, this boxscore says 23.
You have to look down to where it says “Team LOB” to get the correct number. The Brewers left 10 last night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Beat the snot outta the Mets....
So that “scores” are “scores”…..we don’t want no hard feelin’s goin in playoiffs …do we?
The best defense is a good offense
Superstition...
Turds …17 NL Pennants…
Cubs….16….
So…this year means a lot ??
(gee…I mean ….they had to have lots’’years to catch up??)
The best defense is a good offense
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 19, 2008 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
Tarp coming off the Budweiser rooftop sign.
Per a judge’s restraining order against the building’s new owner.
Good
Freaking owner thinking he can gain more money. He gets money for being a homeowner, deal with the payment being one freakin day late
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 3-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. Buffalo. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Yeah, where does an American businessman think he can get away with
taking advantage of others for his own personal gain? By the way, I haven’t read the papers lately. Anything happening on the business page?
Nope - All is well!
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
I don't know about you all...
but I want to see them celebrate the division championship as soon as the game is over. It is not as fun to wait and see if the Brewers lose. Don’t you think it was better clinching in 2003 than last year. So lets just go out an clinch today on FOX!!!
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2008 8:02 AM CDT reply actions
Has anyone considered that Z might be tipping his pitchs
and the cardnals have figured it out and no one else has? I was wondering this before I heard about his Grandmother, but it could still possible. His last two starts vs the cards have been awful.
I’m sorry to hear about Carlos’s grandmother and my thoughts are with him and his family. Let’s all give him a quick thought when we clinch today.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
No. His legs were tired after sitting for hours in an airplane from Venezuela.
His arm angle was low, too, because he was simply too tired to pitch. Lou should have never let Zambrano pitch but let him to please him. (Zambrano wanted to pitch the clincher.) Bad move; well-intentioned, though.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 20, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
You know...
if I were Lou I would’ve likely made the same decision. Lou has heart. As much as he hates to lose, his heart is big. Z had a no-no, pitching the game meant a lot… I can understand completely.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Baseball Prospectus postseason odds
up to 99.99937%
I think we increase it by .00063% this afternoon.
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
I dunno, lets increase it by .00092 just for kicks..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
If such a thing is possible
I am sure this team will find a way.
Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!
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