The Day After: Cubs 5, Cardinals 1
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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On yet another picturebook gorgeous end-of-summer (the equinox passes tomorrow, putting us astronomically as well as meterologically into autumn) afternoon, the Iowa Cubs defeated the Cardinals 5-1, winning yet another series and reducing their magic number (yes, there's still one left) for clinching home field in the first two playoff series to one.
All the regulars got the day off -- that is, all but Jim Edmonds, who was sent up to pinch-hit in the sixth inning to a standing ovation.
Now think about this. Say, six months ago, I had told you that we would be giving a standing ovation to Jim Edmonds during the Cubs' last home game of the year against the Cardinals. You would have shaken your head, said, "Al's nuts", and walked away.
But that's exactly what happened this afternoon -- Edmonds hit a sacrifice fly to score the Cubs' fourth run -- and even a makeshift team that included four guys who spent most of the year in Triple-A beat the Cardinals. Ain't that great?
Casey McGehee, at the bat, drove in two more runs -- and got his first major league hit, a little dribbler of a ball that Troy Glaus couldn't handle at third base. I joked that he could tell his grandchildren that it was a line drive in the gap -- but then, by that time, those grandchildren could just look it up in some video archive and learn the truth.
It was that kind of afternoon, festive but laid-back, nice to enjoy a "who-cares" type of game that felt like a spring training game (with a spring training kind of lineup) rather than the intensity we've lived the last week or so. There will be another week of this -- although, the Cubs surely owe the Mets and Phillies their A-team lineup for the next four days as the Mets, who lost to the Braves 7-6, try to fight off the Brewers for the wild-card spot. Ryan Dempster threw five innings, enough for his 17th win, and the rest of the afternoon was auditions for the final spot in the postseason bullpen. Everyone who threw -- Jeff Samardzija, Chad Gaudin, Randy Wells and Bob Howry -- came out unscored-on, though Gaudin's command was a little off, understandable after a four-week layoff. Wells, actually, has been pretty impressive in his outings and might be a dark horse for a playoff roster spot. I'll give some more thoughts about this in the next few days -- and also to the performance today of Kosuke Fukudome, who looked completely different at the plate, standing in there close in and not bailing out as he has for two months, and the results were positive: two hits and a run scored, and he ought to start every game for the rest of the year to try to get back whatever it is he had in April and lost since; he could be a very valuable part to reclaim in October. Felix Pie also looks very different since his recall and maybe, just maybe, will be the "extra" guy kept since 12 pitchers won't be needed in the postseason.
The crowd of 40,551 brought the season total to 3,300,200, the first 3.3 million season attendance for either Chicago team and more than 99% of capacity for the entire season. There were a few empty seats as some (including a couple from our group) deserted the bleachers for today's Bears loss, but it was mostly full, and given the fact that many of today's crowd won't be able to make it into the ballpark for the postseason, it was a terrific sendoff for a marvelous year, 55 Wrigley Field wins (one short of the all-time Wrigley record).
I'm sitting in my friend Jim's place directly across from the left-field bleachers with several other bleacherites watching the Cubs load on to their bus headed for New York. There's a small group, maybe 50 people, getting autographs from Reed Johnson and Ryan Theriot, among others, as the team gets on the bus. A week from Wednesday, they return to the North Side to begin their pursuit of their goal from spring training, and our dream for decades: a World Series title.
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Randy Wells Playoff roster
never thought I’d hear those words together. But Randy is doing great—congratulations.
by Josh77 on Sep 21, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeeeehaw!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We owe the Brewers our best against the Mets...
…and it would be a perfect capper to win the series at Shea and then return for the coronation at Wrigley North…
I am so jealous of those who are in Chicago right now. My wife was asking if I was going to try to make it to Chicago for the postseason, but her college tuition just rules that out right now…
Some special things are about to happen…I can feel it.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
by NotSure on Sep 21, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We owe the Brewers
nothing.
But we should play our best against the Mets. Surely their A game is better than the Cardinals’ A game.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather face the Mets in the playoffs
Than the Phillies or Dodgers, so yeah, I hope we beat down the Mets (but not so much that they fall out of the WC).
by AceCubbie on Sep 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree - Mets instead of Dodgers
The Dodgers have good pitching. We did not score a lot on them, but were saved because they scored less. They have more firepower now.
by vonde6 on Sep 21, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: I know its the Yankees
but its kind of sad to see Yankee Stadium go. Sure it looks like a toilet from the sky (smells like one too, anyway), has some of the most obnoxious and stuck up fans, and its the Yankees! But it is one of the last landmarks of parks of the old (Wrigley, Fenway, Tiger, etc.). I am glad I was able to go to it this season but it is sad nevertheless to see a monument go.
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have mixed fellings about the whole Yankee Stadium thing
One the hand it is very historic, but on the other hand it’s not really the old yankee stadium. They pretty much built a new stadium in the 70’s where the old one was. Plus ESPN is giving Super Bowl type coverage.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Sep 21, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on the second part
ESPN wouldn’t be covering it as much if say Wrigley would be closed.
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From 1pm to 7pm is coverage of yankee stadium
and I’m sure the 7pm Baseball Tonight will focus most of thier time on it. I would hope they would give Wrigley the same respect but I dought they would. They would probably do it for Fenway but not anyone else. ESPN is getting harder and harder to watch.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Sep 21, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN wouldn't be giving it that much coverage if:
(1) they had any MLB or NFL games to show Sunday afternoon, and
(2) if Sunday night’s game wasn’t so unimportant. I think they’re pulling all the stops because they’re afraid that most people will be watching the football game tonight. That one really counts for something.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 21, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankee Stadium - just in the last 20 years
Growing up in the 70’s as a NY _ _ _ _ _ _ fan I always loved going to the stadium to see my guy Ron Bloomberg. Then I “Grew Up” and went to Clark and Addison for the first time in 1980 and 100% converted to to the “Northside”.
Yankee stadium was a great please to see a game back then.
I still can go to any Sunday home game and with my college buddies and pay $250 for his 7th row behind the plate seat. These seats have gone up from $60 4 years ago. What a rip off !!!
Once there if you need to visit the rest rooms bring your walkman because you assurred of missing 1 to 1.5 innings with the lines and if your hungry or thirsty add another inning.
After the game try to leave and the security make all fans in the lower level from the 3rd base bag in, exit on the right field side of the stadium. If your like me and you want to drive home on the NY Thruway add 15 minutes to get to your car, which is parked near the George Washington Bridge because there is no place to park “even before the new stadium”.
You can not take public transporation to the Stadium unless you live in NY, however the train lines run not more than 250 years from the homeplate entrance.
Just my 2 cents on the Stadium.
Could you guess how much I and my family love Chicago and Wrigley !!!
my son who is 2 years away from college has his top 5 schools.
Northwestern
Univ of Chicago
Lake Forest
Depaul
Loyola
Glad to see the apple did not far from the tree. Because of everything that is great about Wrigley
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Sep 21, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WGN did an excellent job with their tuneful montage of the season
made my eyes mist all over again. Also:
Go Dome!
Pie has rocket feet.
Wells raised eyebrows.
Loved the Ground Crew TMOTTBG
Fun day.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 21, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Link?
Anyone have link to WGN montage?
by WittyUserName on Sep 21, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was at the end of their broadcast... dunno if it's available
looks likely not if you cruise over to wgn.com
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
might be up on monday
it seems to take a while for them to update their video stuff.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Also wouldn’t surprise me if it was run at the end of the last game.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 21, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Also I recommend DVRing or Taping instant Replay 940 central on Channel 9 it might be rerun then at the end,.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's on YouTube now.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that the only
highlight that gets replayed is Lilly running over Molina. Classic!!
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 22, 2008 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Spartan1979 on Sep 22, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one's even better quality..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 22, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind..
Just click on “watch better quality” when you go there.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 22, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was beautiful indeed!
Loved when they showed Lilly crashing into Molina over and over from different camera angles…lol..
Also, when they showed the last out from yesterday, with Pat’s call and Ron standing up in the broadcast booth with his fists raised made me a little misty too.
I didn’t recognize the music. Sounded familiar, but can’t place the artist offhand. Went very well with video montage though.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron standing up in the broadcast booth with his fists raised
And then the sigh of relief as he sat back down and put his head back. WHEW. heh-heh.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
loved that moment
with the super relieved “yes” and fist pump.
fantastic.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing...
…but was it Bon Jovi?
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 21, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Vedder...
…from Pearl Jam wrote the song this past summer. It’s called “Go All The Way” and it’s available for download for 99 cents on Pearl Jam’s website: www.pearljam.com.
by augie90 on Sep 21, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't that song
on that montage. Something about “I love this town…” Don’t know who it is, though. Probably a local band?
Long days and pleasant nights.
by The Original Dave on Sep 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, dont' think so....starting to bug me now.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WGN's montage had the song
“I Love This Town” by Bon Jovi
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that's it..
Didn’t sound like Bon Jovi to me at first. Could of sworn it was someone like Nick Lowe or Dave Edmunds.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe Rockpile?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 22, 2008 5:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
being a huge Nick Lowe fan I know it wasn't him
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 22, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs finished the season with a 55-26 (.679) home record second only to TB
They are 9-8 in September with 7 (err…8 games remaining) they could finish 14 or 15 wins if they finish strong. 94 Wins in the season they appear headed for 98 or 99 wins.
Hendry on TV stated that the final 5 games will determine the final roster spots. Howry, Pie and Hoffpauir made their cases along with Gaudin.
My guess is that Pie is the 25th man…..the pitcher(s) will remain interesting.
5 starters (one being a reliever) plus Wood, Marmol, Cotts, Samardzija plus who? Marshall, Howry, Gaudin or one of the young arms——best change to win now.
also I think Fukudome is nailing down a starting spot this week….two sharp hits….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't want
this feeling to end……not any time soon anyway. O recorded the game and will watch it later. Glad to hear Pie and Dome stepped up today and Shark pitched well.
by sue369 on Sep 21, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously If I HAVE to see that STUPID Tony Romo commercial on WGN again!!
It is a stupid commericial! Oh look at me I am double my size and I drink Pepsi! Plus they show it during every break! its crazy
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was horrible!
I was thinking the same thing and it’s not like they played itevery time, they played it twice every break.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Sep 21, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the same thing
and reached for my cherry coke, remembering that pepsi is nasty.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus
Romo was THE all time worst 7th inning stretch singer.
wccubfan
by wccubfan on Sep 21, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the all time worst?
Worse than “Wrigely Stadium”? Or Ozzie’s mumble fest?
Top 5 worst maybe.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
but you have to also include the drunk ex-Blackhawk players in the top 5 as well.
wccubfan
by wccubfan on Sep 21, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that was in the middle of the Colorado comeback...
….they get a pass. lol.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Da Coach...
Although his version so bad it was kinda funny too.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo can't possibly be the worst TMOTTBG singer in a group that includes Ozzie Worthless.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Sep 21, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is reporting that the Astros are STILL unhappy about that Milwaukee neutral site
You gotta be kidding me?? Its only TWO games too! I think their inability to stop blaming Selig for this messup as caused them to collapse, not moving the games to MIL
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much McLane paid his PR people to keep this story alive on ESPN.
Anyway, look at the Brewers and Astros and you’ll conclude that whiners don’t win.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 21, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, whining does NOTHING in the league
You could even argue that if Moises Alou didn’t bitch after that play in 03 (you know..), then the Cubs could have won that game. He blew it out of proportion there..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to Berkman's quotes
he’s more angry at his managment and his union rep, because THEY had to sign off on it.
But really. They sound like a bunch of bitchy little girls.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
If they’d win some freakin’ games in May and June instead of getting their sh*t together in September, maybe they wouldn’t have to be so whiney…
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they would have made the decision BEFORE Ike,
they could have had Arlington, Atlanta, or DC……
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Sep 21, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway, congratulations Al and gang. On to the playoffs.
(I’m signing off; there’s an electric storm out there in my neighborhood.)
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 21, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So geeked to have Gaudin back!
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sammy
Looks like Sammy overmatched the hitters, its good to see, was getting a little worried about him.
by Slamdog on Sep 21, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sammy?
Samardjza?
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weird
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 21, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
who knows.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bizzare
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on Sep 21, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
peculiar
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eccentric
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
out of the ordinary?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bizarre
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops...it's already up there...how embarassing....
I’ll go with “anomalous”.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
singular
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unprecendented
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Sep 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never been done
before.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ain't never seen nothin like ever before again
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconceivable!
"They played the best all year, so they're the winners." ~Tony LaRussa on the 2008 Cubs
by Goodie1969 on Sep 21, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't resort to hyperbole now
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mundane.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2?
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Sep 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your +2 and raise you an Eckstein
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just add .003...it's the same thing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can cwyers make a graph of that?
I am spatially impaired.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun in the Upper Deck today + Roster
I wish we were able to be there yesterday, but today was really a pleasant surprise.
After looking at our bench warmers and AAA regulars take the field, I was not expecting much – but they made a case, as Al states.
Pie really showed some killer speed on his triple. What a nice dimension to have.
Re D.WARD – he is the one guy I want left off of the playoff roster. Since his injury, he has not done much at all. He did win the Marlins one home game – but in 80+ AB’s he has 19 hits.
in 51 AB’s, Hoffpaiur has 16.
There is only room for one of them, and I would rather see next years’ backup 1B, imo.
CONGRATS TO THE CUBS – but I MUST have more than a Division title this year! Pennant or BUST!!!!
by The E-Man on Sep 21, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ward
IS next year’s backup 1B. Hoffpauer will go back to AAA, where he will hit a ton, and never have to be clutch.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
double agreed
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so sure...
….do you pay a guy $1.2 million again for going 8-51 as a PH?
Not saying Hoff is his replacement, but DWard has not been good this year.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been fine.
How many critical walks? He’s had some sac flies as well.
Hoff is NOT CLUTCH.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 22, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honest question...
Should Fukudome be on the playoff roster?
I love the guy, but I lean in favor of an extra pitcher. Is that crazy?
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Sep 21, 2008 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
should our best defensive RF be on the playoff roster?
Um. Yes.
"He's a pro. Me? I just try not to swear on the air.'' Bob Brenly talking about Len Kasper
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This shouldn't even
be a question. Of course he should.
by sue369 on Sep 21, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for realz
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 21, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shakes head
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on Sep 21, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
we don’t need extra pitching. We need the best RF glove in the game.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can cut down to a three-man rotation for the first round...
…and a four man rotation after that. What on earth do you need a 13th pitcher for?
by cwyers on Sep 21, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching the Yankee game?
Yogi looks great! hahah got to love that.
2008 NL Central Champs!
by TyCubsfan on Sep 21, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yesterdays news coverage
Went through all my dvr of the post game stuff from yesterday.
Why do they insist on those moronic bar shots?
And Channel 9 was showing the crowd outside the ballpark and not the players taking the field inside.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 21, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wasn't that because
the players inside were on Fox?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were on with Cory Provus on the radio
but the stupid fans in the bar are very annoying.
no wonder everyone thinks we just party and don’t care about the game.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 21, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CSN had shots and
inteviews of the players inside and outside.
by sue369 on Sep 22, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds has ben a nice pickup.
I liked him with the Cardinals and I like him as a Cub. I am impressed with his comments in the paper that imply that his focus is the WS and that we should expect to win stuff like the division (it’s not that big of a deal). I hope that his mindset rubs off on other players.
by DudeVf11 on Sep 21, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know where i can find the montage they put on today?
i missed the game and i’ve heard great things…any help will be appreciated thank you
by kodypuckett23 on Sep 21, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or even the 2007 version...i'll watch that again
by kodypuckett23 on Sep 21, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd really like to see the 2007 version again
Does anyone have it and can post it?
"5-8-8, 2-3-hundred, Empire!"
by SyneRandberg on Sep 21, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was discussed above...
I’m looking for it now..If I find it, I’ll post it as a fanshot and give the link here. If someone else finds it, please post a link!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posted on YouTube...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was on the road this weekend...
And had to listen to Saturday and Sunday games on Cardinals radio. Wow, what a bunch of whiners! When they weren’t complaining about every play they thought the Cardinals were getting screwed over on, they were talking about 1908, Bartman, or trashing Kosuke Fukudome getting picked to start for the All-Star Team. They must have griped about that for about 15 minutes today. Boy was I glad to get back in range of Pat and Ron when I got closer to home. Unfortunately, by then the game was over…
by southernilcubfan on Sep 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Cardinal fans are living through their own personal hell this year.
Can you imagine an outfield with Adam Kennedy, Felipe Lopez, and Mr. Dred Locks (Brian Barton) like they had during this series?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's nothing. Try these candidates...
Jeromy Burnitz, Jason Dubois, Jody Gerut, Ben Grieve, Matt Lawton, Todd Hollandsworth, Jose Macias, Matt Murton, Jerry Hairston and Corey Patterson—all in the same year—and managed by Dusty Baker.
Sorta puts that whole Felix Pie debate in perspective, doesn’t it?
"They played the best all year, so they're the winners." ~Tony LaRussa on the 2008 Cubs
by Goodie1969 on Sep 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and none of them are still on this team hah!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty Baker is terrible.
It doesn’t take much to manage a team with Barry Bonds on it. The only season he did well in Chicago was his first, and it wasn’t his team.
Then he goes to Cincy and brings Corey Patterson along for the ride. What an idiot.
I hope for the Reds’ sake Walt Jocketty doesn’t let Dusty hand-pick anyone else for that team. They really have a chance to be very good, with a lot of young talent. Not that I really want them to be good.
I don’t think I have much to worry about as long as Dusty is there.
Long days and pleasant nights.
by The Original Dave on Sep 21, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling...
… Jocketty will convince ownership to buy out Dusty’s contract so he can bring Tony LaRussa over.
Remember where you heard this first.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't surprise me a bit, but...
According to this article on SB Nation, it might not be likely:
Seriously, what’s the likelihood that Tony La Russa will be working with the Reds in some capacity after his contract is up in 2009?
I wouldn’t bet on it. But nobody can predict what Tony La Russa will do next, or why.
Long days and pleasant nights.
by The Original Dave on Sep 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are dead right...
I’ve been thinking that was a possibility for the last few months. I don’t see TLR in St. Louis or Dusty in Cincy next year.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if that happens..
I’d bet the farm Duncan comes along for the ride.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 22, 2008 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would
only make Cueto and Volquez that much more dangerous, having Duncan working with them
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 22, 2008 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
Sometimes the young guys don’t mesh with Duncan, since he prefers two-seam, sinking fastballs to the four-seam variety. It’s why Anthony Reyes never prospered until he went to Cleveland earlier this year.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy. Crap. LaRussa managing the same team that Thom broadcasts....
I already hate the Reds with the heat of a thousand suns, this will multiply that by infinity.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how are
the umpire crews chosen for the postseason?
by cubbiefanTN on Sep 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It should be by merit.
But, IIRC, it’s by rotation.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I Remember Correctly
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By inseam length...
and in the case of any ties they use their last cholesterol number.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the good cholesterol number or the bad one?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The AL uses bad, the NL good.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's never going to work.
Baseball is a game played by nine players on a side, with constant blood-pressure and cholesterol checks.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how they did it in the old days...
before they lowered the height of the pitcher’s mound. Remember, now the umpires are all in the same pool; there aren’t AL or NL umpires anymore. No league presidents. Nothing to tell the leagues apart except for the number of teams and the different rule about pitchers not having to bat for themselves or some such nonsense. It’s just like all the other major professional sports where there are different fundamental rules between the sub-groups, like in the NFL where in the NFC you can have 12 men on the field and in the AFC the kicker can chop block the kick returner so long as he has progressed more than 20 yards from where he received the ball.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankee Stadium
seems destined to have the longest final finishing act since the fall of the Roman Empire.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 21, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I want to know.
This is being written in the 6th inning. Joe Girardi has said he wants Mariano Rivera to be the last Yankee pitcher on the mound, so he’s going to start the 9th no matter what.
What if it’s tied? And what if it STAYS tied through 10, 11 innings?
What then, Joe?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 21, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happens
at least they’re lucky the last Yankee on the mound won’t be Kyle Farnsworth.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have the sound on..
Did he actually say Rivera would start the 9th? I heard on XM radio earlier today the Joe wanted him to be the one to finish the game but I assumed he would just bring him in to face the (most likely) last batter.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole "last game" thing has gotten ridiculous...
I heard DirecTv is going to have a whole channel dedicated to this event forever.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Yankee Stadium and all that it represents..
26 World Series Championships won by the Yankees and all those great players over the years. I have always been fascinated with the Yankees. I got turned onto major league baseball and become a Cub diehard in 1977. That was the same year Lou PIniella, Billy Martin, Reggie Jackson, Catfish Hunter, et al were the greatest and most controversial team in baseball. If you read one baseball book in your lifetime then read Sparky Lyle’s “The Bronx Zoo.”
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Because I’ve heard some pretty good things about “Moneyball.” Your thoughts?
by cwyers on Sep 21, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moneyball was just okay...
Personally, I don’t subscribe to all the theories of Billy Beane. I credit him for being a smart, differentiated animal in the game of baseball. But would I want him as GM of my team if I was starting with a blank canvas? Answer is no.
You should read The Bronx Zoo if you haven’t already. It is outstanding on the dynamics of one of the most volatile collections of owner, manager and players ever assembled. You would like this book a great deal.
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep an eye open for it.
Full disclosure: my favorite baseball book is actually “Past Time,” by Jules Tygiel. Very approachable historical overview of baseball.
by cwyers on Sep 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That book is on my future reading list already...
Not only is The Bronx Zoo deeply revealing on the game of baseball but it is also hilarious as all get up. Your local library will have a copy I’m sure.
http://www.amazon.com/Bronx-Zoo-Astonishing-Champion-Yankees/dp/1572437154
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for "Moneyball".
And I’d also put Lawrence Ritter’s, “The Glory Of Their Times” on any list of must read baseball books.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would vote for "The Boys of Summer"
followed by “Ball Four”
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read Ball Four for the first time...
And to be honest I was disappointed. I heard so much about this book over the years and found it to be a letdown. Jim Bouton clearly went to the beat of his own drummer and was controversial more to be an asshole than anything else.
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I first read it right after it was published...
it probably was more meaningful to a rebellious 60’s teenage mind than it would be if I were to read it now.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The amount of hub bub around Yankee Stadium
has been extreme, but I bet there can’t be enough of a deal made out of it for most Yankees fans. That place has been around a looong time with lots of important and amazing things having occured there. I think we don’t care as much cause we aren’t there and that isn’t our team. Imagine the day when Wrigley’s time is up. How will that impact most cubs fans? I am betting there will be a lot more tears shed over Wrigley than I saw shed over Yankee Stadium. I know it brought a tear to my eye just thinking about it. Seeing them find a 80 something year old to a seven year old sniffling in the crowd tonight was really something. And I don’t want to turn this into a “are you more in love with the Wrigley experience or the Cubs?” argument. I am just saying No matter the stance, Wrigley is historic and no one can down play it’s importance to millions over the years.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 22, 2008 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy 08!
I just read Crazy 08. The Story of the 1908 baseball season. This book literally had me envisioning what it must have been like to live in a day where the Cubs were the Yankees! I also found it ironic that the Cardinals were the doormat of the N.L. for the first quarter of the century. Anyway, great read. Pick it up if you have a chance.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance 1B/Manager 1908 World Champion Chicago Cubs
by imknowdummy on Sep 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
A very good read. Some the things the players of that era got away with make Barry Bonds look like Mr. Nice Guy.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 21, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read and reviewed this book last year.
Don’t have time to find the link to the review right now — you can find it either in the “Book Reviews” section on the left sidebar, or just search the site.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 22, 2008 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The post-season pitchers....
With Chad Gaudin possessing an iffy back and Bob Howry remaining lit match next to gas can I wonder if Lou PIniella might keep Randy Wells. Yep, I said Randy Wells. I know he is journeyman material but that said he has quietly been effective and throws strikes. The league doesn’t know much about him and he might be a valuable innings eater on a 12 man staff???
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His name has been thrown around here that past couple days as a possiblity.
I wouldn’t be surprised in the least bit to see him make the PS Roster.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither would I.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 22, 2008 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope to God
Lou doesn’t keep Howry on the roster. I have a feeling Howry will somehow put together a decent week and give Lou reason to keep him.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Sep 22, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ infinity
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 22, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rocky Cherry sighting...
bottom of the 7th.
The Orioles don’t exactly have a loaded bullpen, do they?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Sep 21, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn I missed that
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on Sep 21, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there he is
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on Sep 21, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember all the weeping and gnashing of teeth around here when....
The Cubs let Rocky Cherry, Scott Moore and Clay Rapada leave the flock in return for Steve Trachsel and whatever garbage it was we acquired from Detroit last season?!?! All three will soon be selling Kenmore appliances next to Matt Murton at a local Sears.
by MDBNIU on Sep 21, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever dislocated a shoulder patting yourself on the back?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think he has one of these....
9/14/08 - Big Z throws a no-hitter and my son attends his first Cubs game. The perfect combination.
by Scrapptastic on Sep 21, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't see what you're crowing about.
Seeing as, just as we feared, we got Steve Trachsel out of the Steve Trachsel trade. What, and we didn’t have someone in the organization who could put up an 8.31 ERA for us? It’s like saying, “Hey, we only gave up a half a pack of chewing gum, a paper clip and a piece of string for that kick to the teeth!” The cost is really irrelevant; I just like having teeth.
by cwyers on Sep 22, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot about
The professional attitude that Trachsel brought to the clubhouse.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 22, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link appears to be no good
Anyway, he screamed profanities at people watching a Brewer game in the Cubs clubhouse during the Marlins series last September.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 22, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
remember how Traschel…. well, how about when he…..
That sure was a good deal. (eyeroll)
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 22, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know why
but the WGN broadcast was not blacked out yesterday. Don’t know if it’s cos it was the last game of the year, or because it was, essentially, meaningless, but I wasn’t stuck watching the FSN Midwest feed. That was a really great way to end the regular season at home.
Plus, found out I get to see Wednesday’s game on ESPN and got my BCB shirt today. Win win win.
Go Cubs Go.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey- has anyone gotten an email about NLDS tickets yet?
Or should I give up hope of getting one at all? They were supposed to randomly draw today.
by Champ Summers on Sep 22, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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