Astros still complaining about the games at Miller Park

by aznsensation on Sep 23, 2008 2:40 PM CDT Comment 37 comments

I was just watching ESPN's Outside the Lines and the Astros just won't let it go. Frankly, I'm getting tired of the Astros and all this talk about how much Bud Selig screwed them. I thought they screwed themselves by not having a better alternative plan in place sooner. They need to just accept that they really are not that good of a team and should not have made the playoffs. Good teams find a way to win no matter where they play. Having a -34 run differential doesn't help their case either. I read a post from another blog site that summed everything up involving this incident very well.

Post from Thundermatt blog

Poll

Who is to blame?

Bud Selig

7 votes

Drayton McClane

148 votes

The Astros

33 votes

Hurricane Ike

38 votes

Carlos Zambrano's No-No

19 votes

245 votes | Poll has closed

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Credit where credit is due...

…that blog entry perfectly sums up the situation and, quite frankly, my feelings about it. And let me just say again that I find it unfathomable that the ‘Stros have lost so much perspective that they’re still talking about this so long after the games were played.

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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 23, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+ 1,000

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 23, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The way they're playing . . . .

hasn’t given Astros fans anything else to talk about…

by DaveinHouston on Sep 23, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Even if the hurricane/Milwaukee games put a crimp in their style, it’s pure garbage to say it derailed the rest of your season. The teams ahead of them have given them plenty of chance to climb into the WC. And they haven’t. And they smell.

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by AceCubbie on Sep 24, 2008 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They need to look right at there owner and start there when..

it comes to placing blame. He refused to believe that the hurricane was going to be as bad as it was and demanded those games be played at home. He did nothing to help find a more traditional neutral site (Atlanta, Wash, etc) and just said that they have to be made up at the end of the season. MLB was in no way shape or form going to have them play a series at the end of the season and cut into the playoffs, and he should have known that. Now that they are playing horrible its easy to put the blame on Selig rather than just look at the fact that they could have made it a nonissue if they would have been playing better baseball. Its a cop out to blame selig

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 23, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

I can’t believe that they’re 1) still whining about this and 2) completely absolving their owner of any blame.

by bluekoolaide on Sep 23, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They need to...

…grow the fu%k up!!

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 23, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

When they got only one hit

in two games, that wasn’t because of the location of the games. It was because they are whiners and quitters, looking for excuses instead of sucking it up an playing ball.

by Clark Addison on Sep 23, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Bud Selig to blame

for the Astros first half of the season, too? Cos that seems to go overlooked.

make*art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 23, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Astros are dead to me

Current temperature in hell: 42 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Sep 23, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Here is what offends me the most

They printed up shirts saying, “Bud killed us.”

Hello, there are people who literally got swept into the sea. There are Galveston residents now taking up residence in the freaking Gulf of Mexico and these overpaid, whiny, scumbag players use the word “killed”?

Go f—- yourself, Astros. And when you’re done, take some Viagra and do it again.

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by DaBard on Sep 23, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I saw this on ESPN

during lunch and quickly lost my appetite.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Sep 23, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2009 Season Opens in Houston

Cubs fans should wear a t-shirt saying, “I’d rather be in Milwaukee”

by Cajuncub on Sep 23, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Someone needs to get on that immediately

Fantastic idea

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Sep 23, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is very good

along with the obligatory “GO CUBS” beneath it…

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 24, 2008 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

mi familia is going to head to Houston for games next year

and I just might have to do that ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The way the players have reacted to this proves

they are losers. What happened in Florida. Was that because of Bud too? Did they suck the first half because of Bud? I wouldn’t be surprised if the T shirts were Latroy Hawkins idea. The biggest baby of them all. I am done thinking or talking about these babies.

by Rick B on Sep 23, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who else but Latroy?

LaTroy Hawkins ordered and paid for the initial batch of 50 shirts, which were hanging in the locker of every player, coach and even manager Cecil Cooper when they arrived at Dolphin Stadium for the series finale against the Florida Marlins.

"Enough said," Hawkins, who had 60 shirts made, said.

Seriously.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 23, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh man.

I’ll admit, at certain times during the ’05 season, I felt bad for Latroy. But this just reinforces his image as a complete and utter tool. Unbelievable.

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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ditto feelings here ..

I often felt he wasn’t given enough room at times .. now I’m glad the Cubs gave him all the room a left foot of fellowship out the door gave him. What a jerk.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It starts at the top...

…and the owner, GM and manager have allowed this to develop to what it is today. The players are merely following their lead.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 23, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They are truly the opposite of "professional baseball players"

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 23, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i think we ought to let it go too

there’ve been tons of “astros/astros fans are still whining” posts and frankly i’m getting tired of it from both ends.

by nathew on Sep 23, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think that's the point of this post.

That we cannot believe that the Astros and ESPN are still whining about this.

But as I always say: Whiners never win. Just look at the Brewers and Astros.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 23, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I've said before: Enough already!

McLane really has his PR people on this and ESPN is eating from his hand, as a result. That a blogger can come with a more coherent and complete analysis of the schedule problems the Astros’ proposed solution entails says more about the shallowness of the analysis offered by the ESPN sport pundits than anything else I can think of. And remember, the pundits get paid to say those stupid things on radio and TV; the blogger offered a much better analysis for free.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 23, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Remember,

a politician told us we are a ‘nation of whiners.’ But he really just meant the Houston Astros.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 23, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, he should know.

He’s the senator from their state.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 23, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, I still hold a grudge...

against black cats because of 1969, even though I wasn’t born then.

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by Chanman25 on Sep 23, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you have to admit though

this was a great catch

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice X-Files poster in the background.

make*art

by neverAcquiesce on Sep 24, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still hold a grudge because Abner Doubleday decided to call it Baseball instead of Rounders. What an idiot.

I have t-shirts available for sale that say “Blame it on Abner”

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 23, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I hold a grudge against the White and Red Sox

because they made me fail a spelling test in 2nd grade, I thought socks was spelled sox! We need to make “BLAME THE SOX” shirts….punks….

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 24, 2008 6:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you care?

Do we need a new diary every time they complain? it’s over. Let them continue to complain.

by rlpete on Sep 23, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The correct answer

is Bud and McClane. Bud had absolutely no leadership and McClane would not “just shut up”.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 24, 2008 6:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You're absolutely correct.

But as that wasn’t a poll option, I went with McClane because – Bud Selig being an ineffectual hand-wringer in a crisis? IT’S HIS MOVE!!

Personally, I think Cooper tried to turn the ‘injustice’ into a rallying point for his team. It very well could be that the manager recommended going with the neutral site (Atlanta?) plan before Ike hit, since his team was red hot – only to be overruled by the owner who didn’t want to refund 3 sellouts.

And now that things are going south, Cooper and McClane allowing the team to ‘pump up’ the resentment has the benefit of getting the Astros fans more focused on “Bud screwed us out of the playoffs” instead of “If we only didn’t play so lousy for four months, we wouldn’t have needed to finish 25-5 to squeeze into the wild card spot”.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs