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Overflow Thread 1: Cubs vs. Mets, Wednesday 9/24, 6:10 CT

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Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:01 PM CDT   0 recs

third

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:01 PM CDT   0 recs

ah-hah!

I know why Z is pitching better. He cut all his hair off again.

Smore aerodynamic, yanno.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:01 PM CDT   0 recs

c'mon z

one more out, baby.

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:02 PM CDT   0 recs

hard to pitch well

when you have to get five strikes for every f@cking out.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bases loaded

Wright at bat

by MOCubsfan on Sep 24, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

where is everyone?

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Here

nothing of consequence to add to the conversation.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 24, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Digesting

It takes mental energy, y’know.

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 24, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'M AWAKE!!

1812! Pi! Dioxyriboneucleic acid! Samuel Gompers!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just got here...

but ouch. :(

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Sep 24, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that'll be the last time i have dinner when Zambrano is pitching 'well'

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Braves hanging on against the fighting Phils!

3-2
Top of the 4th

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Sep 24, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Im calling a K looking

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Sounds good to me!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Sep 24, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think FB gets him looking.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

Wests call befuddles me

by MOCubsfan on Sep 24, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wolf

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

z given his all

…..I change my prediction to a splitter swinging…

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:08 PM CDT   0 recs

don't care how

just finish him, Z!

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I trust Hank

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think MLB should check this Umps financial record...

He’s made a lot of questionable calls already this game for both teams

by aznsensation on Sep 24, 2008 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm opening the window!

That ledge looks inviting

Sarcasm, just one of my many talents

by VegasCubFan on Sep 24, 2008 7:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Z is less than pleased

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:10 PM CDT   0 recs

Larry is yelling at Carlos.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Sep 24, 2008 7:10 PM CDT   0 recs

this game means nothing right?

i hate this.

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:11 PM CDT   0 recs

Correct

Z’s just adding some drama for us

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 24, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what the F@CK, Ump???

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:12 PM CDT   0 recs

I get back from dinner to see this strikezone?

bullspit

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!

by nji232 on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT   0 recs

And that stuff that comes out of the other end of the bull

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Steve........calling a reverse

I called it…..now Z is calling on the ump..

Steve Phillips = Garbage.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Phillips....is Philly.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nevermind.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Have another drink Hammer....

OK!!!!

Cubs already clinched.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

O'Brien and Sutcliffe in the booth

No Phillips

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow, time for dinner

Sarcasm, just one of my many talents

by VegasCubFan on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Good night

see ya tomorrow

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM CDT   0 recs

10 bucks Z hits Beltran

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT   0 recs

I say he grows the f%#^ up

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+2

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just don't get it.

I saw a struggling pitcher. I didn’t see a baby.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw both....

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw someone yelling at the umpire

I saw someone stalking off the mound — and so did Derrek Lee

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure.

he’s struggling. But he’s not throwing a temper tantrum. He’s angry at himself. I do some of the same things (although perhaps with less crotch adjustment) when I screw up at work.

I guess I just don’t see the problem, other than the fact that his performance suffers. Let him howl at the moon, if he wants, so long as he gets the job done.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's just it

He’s NOT getting the job done. Something goes wrong and he struggles — he doesn’t move past it.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think that the actions you're complaining about

cause the struggling. I think the struggling causes the actions you’re complaining about.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The lack of focus contribute to continued struggles

Z needs to learn how to man up.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's not "manning up".

he’s a man. Stop disrespecting him. He’s a major league ball player, he pitched a no hitter two weeks ago, and he’s having a bad patch. Jesus Christ. “man up”. How ridiculous.

He has personality quirks. Everyone does. Most people don’t get them broadcast to millions of people.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You have your opinion, I have mine

The fact that most here see the same thing, writers say the same thing and announcers say the same thing as me doesn’t mean that I’m right, but they do say that.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

they're looking

for a way to sell papers. Last week, Lou wanted to pitch Marshall, but he didn’t want to deal with the uproar from pulling Z after his no-no. Z struggled, and so the uproar happened anyway.

The dude’s grandmother died a week ago. He’s struggling. But at least he’s trying to do his job, best he can.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt people buy newspapers for Z commentary

I read all my sports pages online. The posters here aren’t trying to sell papers.

Again, that doesn’t mean that I’m right — but you do seem to have a minority opinion on this.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, I know.

but I still think I’m right. :D

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm willing to cut him some slack based on the death in the family

can’t be easy shuttling back and forth and trying to focus. I can understand losing focus easily and getting upset with oneself or an umpire.

That said, he needs to be sharp come Game 3 or whenever he starts. And I think he will be.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 24, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed that weighs on his mind

But it didn’t start last week.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True

but just when it looked like he’d figured it out, then the death came in. So it’s possible that set him back.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 24, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmmm.

Mets walk people they score. Cubs get walks, they stand on bases not scoring. Something wrong with this picture

Sarcasm, just one of my many talents

by VegasCubFan on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT   0 recs

Lol

Playoffs cannot come soon enough

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!

by nji232 on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT   0 recs

He's not working too fast, though

That’s what I look for to see how frustrated he is

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

which is crap.

the strikezone, that is. Two of those walks were Ks.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

they had run to a full count and the pitches were right down the middle on the edges of the plate. Really poor strike zones by this ump.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe Wolf took the over on this one.

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 24, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he started well

the wheels fell off it seems though.

There's magic in the ivy...

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 24, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how bad do you want to play the Mets now?

well……..

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2008 7:16 PM CDT   0 recs

I'll still take my chances.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

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