Playoff Tuneup: Cubs 9, Mets 6
by Al on Sep 25, 2008 8:36 AM CDT
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Even when Z pitches poorly, they win.
Even when middle relief fails, they win.
I LOVE THIS TEAM!
Nearly four hours after last night's game began, Derrek Lee dinked a little popup down the right field line, just fair, scoring Ryan Theriot, who had singled and stolen second with two out, and then Aramis Ramirez put the exclamation point on the tenth-inning rally with a two-run homer, his twenty-seventh, and the Cubs beat the Mets 9-6, giving the Mets a body blow in their attempt to win the wild card. This entire series has been somewhat surreal because I think most of you would probably rather have the Mets as a first-round playoff opponent than the other possibilities (now basically reduced to the Phillies and Dodgers), and so the Cubs, having given the Mets two soul-crushing defeats in this series (and clinching the season series, leading 4-1), can turn around and help them get in by beating the Brewers in Milwaukee this weekend.
What a long, strange trip this has been. It may get stranger tonight if the rain that is forecast for the New York area gets there before the game is over -- and even if it doesn't, it looks like the Mets may have trouble getting their weekend series with the Marlins in.
That, however, isn't the Cubs' problem. What is the Cubs' problem is yet another pitching meltdown by Carlos Zambrano. Z threw two good innings before blowing up in the third, walking nearly everyone in the state of New York before giving up a grand slam to Carlos Delgado. Z gave up only two hits other than the homer -- a one-out single to Argenis Reyes in that third inning and another single to David Wright in the fifth, at which point Lou had had enough and yanked him.
The bullpen did OK until Jeff Samardzija decided to do his Z impression (maybe that Second City thing he did last week was on his mind and he's auditioning to be an impressionist?) and walk in a run. That tied the game in the 8th, and no wonder the game was so darn long -- there were sixteen bases on balls issued by both teams, nine by Cubs pitchers and seven by the Mets.
And darned if Bob Howry didn't help save the day by throwing a scoreless bottom of the ninth, getting out of a jam he started by allowing a leadoff triple to Daniel Murphy, setting up D-Lee's and A-Ram's heroics. Kerry Wood finished up with his 34th save.
All wins are good; this one, though it meant nothing to the Cubs in the standings was particularly impressive because it shows that they have maintained their focus even while playing out the string, and they beat a team that is desperately trying to hang on to a playoff spot, and one they may face next week. We can be a little worried about Mark DeRosa, who strained his calf and had to leave the game; he'll sit for a couple of days to rest it, although Lou was going to give him two days off anyway. And Bruce Miles tells us that Lou appears to be leaning toward Ryan Dempster starting game 1 next Wednesday -- and I'd agree with that assessment, and I'd probably go with tonight's starter, Rich Harden, in game 2, starting Z in game three on the road.
We, as always, await developments. Finally, one development you should know about: the games tonight in New York and tomorrow night in Milwaukee, originally scheduled for CSN, will now be on CSN Plus (CLTV in Chicago; if you watch via EI you will not be affected, but I know that some Chicago-area viewers don't get CLTV) -- the White Sox games, more important in the pennant races, have been moved to CSN's main channel.
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Ferrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrst!
Great win! Even when the Cubs try to give away a game, they take it right back.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like Howry
Gave them a leadoff triple, then took it right back pitching out of a jam. After the triple, he seemed to pitch a lot better. Or maybe the Mets just suck really bad.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the beard.
he looked fierce. determined.
by CubFaninNY on Sep 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of playoff beards on this team already
the Canadians are taking over!
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Ted Lilly try and grow a beard.
He should have started in July.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding? Terrible Ted could
grow a beard in about 5 minutes. All he would have to do is threaten those whiskers and they would come running out.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's his one weakness.
Something Ted tells no one, but he gets a 5:00 shadow 48 hours after shaving.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to channel his inner-DeRosa
who seems to have a 5:00 shadow by noon.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the yin-and-yang of the clubhouse beards
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming razors can pierce Ted's skin.
Ted doesn’t have a beard cos Ted doesn’t want a beard.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true...he grows one on on each offday...and shaves it off that night.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theodore Roosevelt Moses Lilly?
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every girl's crazy for a sharp-dressed Cub!
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could try
but it would be patchy and hideous. I tried once during finals week in college, it wasn’t pretty.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same.
I went about a solid week when I had time off to move. Two days before I needed to shave I got rid of it. Itchiness + patchiness = fail.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and bottom of the seventh...
…Mets have runners on first and third with no outs and still can’t score. Good stuff.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets put the leadoff man on in the 5th-9th innings
and scored 1 run. Now, that’s frustrating.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of nice seeing that happen to the OTHER team, isn't it!
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I almost felt a little sorry for some of the Mets fans there last night.
Then I slapped some sense into myself and went back to enjoying the game.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost did too--but then NAAHHHH!
After seeing black cat footage—hearing Sutcliffe talk about their fans throwing a black cat from the upper deck inot the bullpen in ’84 and other fond memories—screw ’em.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
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by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was going to say -
We know how that feels, don’t we?
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing exactly
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is posted over at the Met's Blog
Amazin Avenue and it fits right here as well
a man on third and no outs is worth approximately 1.5 runs! oh and hey, bases loaded with 1 out is 1.6 runs! oh and look, first and third with no outs is 1.8!!!
/eats gun barrel
//fires
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posted that before I was finished
As the announcers said last night, you can’t blame the Mets’ loss on their pitchers when the offense gives up scoring opportunities like this.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the melancholy/
ennui over there is just hilarious. One thing you CAN give credit to Mets fans for is stinging wit. I certainly know their pain….
by 26.2cubsfan on Sep 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone just called in to ESPN
and asked something along the lines of ‘Am I the only one who wished that maybe Bobby Howry would screw up the bottom of the 9th to pitch himself off the PS roster?’ I thought about it, and I say there’s no way I wanted him, but darned if I wasn’t expecting it. That being said I still would never want Howry near the mound in any sort of tight pressure situation in the PS.
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by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a blend...
…of Howry not giving them anything to hit, and the Mets hitters being tight as you can be.
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by MPH73 on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
White Sox??
I’ve heard of them. Are they still playing?
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by Ihatethecards on Sep 25, 2008 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barely
they are getting handled by the Twins right now
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Twins are a pretty amazing team
…..at least in the regular season, year after year competing, and this year minus Johan, Hunter and Carlos Silva.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Twins
are a model organization for small markets. they lose their best players, but continue to compete, it’s amazing.
You are right about their playoff reputation though, they can’t seem to close the deal once they get there.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I would say the A’s are in the same mold.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team relies on too much youth
due to cost restrictions. Inexperience is a major weakness for both these franchises each time they get to the playoffs.
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But notice how you say
each time they make the playoffs. Despite the fact that they do not go deep into the playoffs, these teams have found a way to stay competitive year in and year out
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those paranyas will bite your ass!
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you still have to keep
Believin!
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ju got to boleeve, mayn!
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got to get help from the boopen, ju know!
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, Mark Buerhle called them something else last night.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winners
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox
did get hosed on one call last night. The Twins runner was picked off second base, but was called safe. That runner scored the Twins second run, IIRC.
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game, too.
The 2nd base ump was on the other side of the Twins player’s body (Cabrera’s tag was on the player’s left side, towards left field; the ump was more towards 1B line) and couldn’t see the tag actually being applied. He could, however, see the player’s hands tagging the base, so I don’t blame the ump. He was out, for sure, but it wasn’t really a blown call, per se, IMHO.
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, as I said to a friend of mine towards the end of the game
and after being mentioned / blamed by Hawk for the loss, that a good way to combat bad calls is to SCORE MORE RUNS.
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, the MN rookie starter
was out of the game after the 5th. From that point on they got exactly 1 single.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the same time
Who would’ve ever thought the Sox would be in contention at this point of the season?
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by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way does Z
deserve that opening start. I’ve said it since last winter, I can’t trust him. His antics on the mound in more like a spoiled 12 year old. Get under control Z, this team needs your best! I don’t think Lou will put up with that and he shouldn’t. Go with Dempster and Hardin.
And, message to Lou: Don’t have Cedeno bunt again. He is clueless how to put one down in the correct area to advance runners.
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by mrcubsfan on Sep 25, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
3.91 ERA does not make you an ace.
by CubFaninNY on Sep 25, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep start Z in game 3
I think he had control problems last night, but doesn’t want to let on about it.. He was even talking to the Ump about it in the last at bat
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by Ihatethecards on Sep 25, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've come around on not starting z in game 1
however here are two things to keep in mind
z is clearly a head case, once you get in there it’s hard for him to get back on track…..therefore i would think keeping z away from opposing fans would be a VERY good idea
also rich harden has not made it a secret he likes pitching at night when it’s cooler….if the schedule comes out that game 2 is during the day and game 3 at night, i think it’s a pretty easy decision to go dempster, z, harden
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weather
if Games 1 and 2 are at night, line up the Canadians. (10-day forecast here)
Game 1 – high 65, low 51 – let’s throw Dempster
Game 2 – high 65, low 52 – sounds like Harden weather to me
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this setup too.
Demp, Z then Rich.
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the fact that Cedeno still hasn't figured out...
…the fundamentals of bunting in that situation: 
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and was clueless...
covering first on the bunt. Everyone in the workd knew a bunt was coming. Get to 1st on time!!!
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by MikeOxbyg on Sep 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not get too giggly
Things are masking some things that need some attention, need some work.
Same as it ever was.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Sep 25, 2008 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al,
I’m assuming you watched the WCIU broadcast… If you watched ESPN, Sutcliffe pointed out that Koyie Hill was telegraphing Shark’s pitches. Each time he threw a fastball, he shifted his leg outside, whie on breaking pitches, he didn’t.
I don’t know if you blame Shark in that situration, or not, b ut it was an interesting observation.
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by moose97 on Sep 25, 2008 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's interesting.
I listened to most of the game on the radio and caught the very end on WCIU, so I didn’t hear that. If what Sutcliffe said is true, Samardzija is lucky all he did was give up a run on a couple hits and a couple walks. And he still got out of the inning with minimal damage.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes easy to spot his pitches
once Sutcliff pointed it out. I think they knew what was coming.
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by Ihatethecards on Sep 25, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad someone brought this up...
It was pretty obvious what he was going to throw. Glad Hill isn’t going to be catching in the playoffs.
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
We should emphasis that it was Hill catching and giving up the pitch and location.
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by Ihatethecards on Sep 25, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah not only was he giving up
the pitch, but the location…..shark was hitting 96 last night so i’m not too worried about that
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think last nights game Soto was missed by a variety of the pitchers.
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get to see much of the game and what I saw was on WCIU.
That’s a pretty cool observation and shows Sutcliffe can be a decent analyst. Took me a second to register “Koyie Hill” and only on playoff roster in the event of an injury and then as a backup. Whew.
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by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have really
gotten to like Sutcliffe. I enjoy it all the time when the Cubs are on Wednesday night baseball and Rick get to do the color.
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murray
in the booth was good also. Sut. was on Hills movement behind the plate and tipping pitches. Sutcliffe is a good guy and a good analylist.
Sut. told a good story about Murray in NY, in 1989, Murray bringing “cajun fries” and a Heinkne (beer, spelling sucks), around the dugout, and Murray poking his head into the dugout, asking Sutcliffe if wanted some. Good story if you caught it.
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else remember Bill Murray filling in for Harry Caray?
I saw a video on YouTube of Murray and Steve Stone sharing the WGN broadcast booth while Harry was recovering from his stroke. I wouldn’t want to watch that every game, but boy was it fun just that once.
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by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see it at the time...
…but I’ve watched all those clips on YouTube. They’re well worth finding – hilarious stuff.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when Murray was screaming at the Cubs batters, "Hey Rafe, Rafe!"
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the videos have been taken down
:(
I wanted to see Eric Gregg trying to squeeze into the Cubs’ catching gear again!
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by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, man...that sucks.
Someone had essentially posted the entire game – including the pregame. Bummer.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the best of all the fill in announcers.
Best line happened when they got Murray’s mother in the booth and Stone asked her, “Mrs. Murray, was Bill raised by wolves”?
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sutcliffe was interviewed on Cubs pregame on the radio
Awesome interview.
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ESPN broadcast wasn't available in Chicago...
… so I didn’t hear Sutcliffe’s observation. Very sharp of him — I’ve always liked Sut as an analyst.
If that really was happening — I wouldn’t worry about it for the postseason, because Hill won’t be on the roster. (I do wonder how the hitters noticed what Hill was doing behind them, though.)
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
runner on second base could have been giving the batter signals
Like what we do from the scoreboard
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the runner was,
there could be some retribution for that, if he was doing in an obvious manner.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with the runner giving out signals
Im sure every team does it, and its more the catchers fault for tipping the pitches.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends for me.
If you can figure out a way to discretely do it, go for it. But to yell or relay locations in a little league manner doesn’t sit well with me.
That said, it was pretty easy to figure out Samardzija’s pitch pattern, since everything to left-handed hitters was away, and inside to right-handed batters it seemed.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they are yelling and screaming the pitches
Then something should be done, no question. I would hope they wouldn’t be dumb enough to do that tho.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would assume they wouldn't be either,
but with some of these guys, you never know.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be the guy on deck too.
pretty easy for him to whistle or something.
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last 3-2 Pitch
wasn’t even close anyway and that’s when he had to make a good pitch.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
once I knew what to look for from Sut it was easy to see. Hill would pop his legs out quickly for the breaking ball and shift sloooooowly over for the fastball. It would’ve been incredibly easy for the man on second to simply swipe his leg for one pitch or the other.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I just hope Sutcliffe talked to Hill about that after the game.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hill won't play (much) in the postseason.
But I would hope someone in the organization noticed and gets him to break it.
Or, if he’s playing for another team next year, he doesn’t.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hill won't be on the roster in the postseason
Unless Geo or Hank get hurt.
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by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and when the play by play guy
compared Sut’s midseason move to CC’s, did Sut pull a BB and go on and on about how great he was? absolutely not…..he merely smiled and said “i was lucky”
so refreshing to not hear a guy brag about himself and his playing days
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anybody else thinking what I'm thinking?
I don’t know how much longer Ron Santo is gonna keep going on the radio, but given his myriad health concerns, he may well retire sometime soon… Sutter would make a fantastic replacement.
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by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Er, I mean, Sutcliffe.
Dammit.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's to BB getting a managerial job
and Sut replacing him!!!
P.S. I HATE BOB BRENLY
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat me by seconds
with this suggestion ;)
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?!?
have i finally met another BCB’er that dislikes BB?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't dislike BB
but I really like Sut
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to love the Cubs enough to do it
Not sure if he wants to work every day, though.
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by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't
And don’t forget, he just had a battle with colon cancer too.
by Josh77 on Sep 25, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sutcliffe won't take the job
The Cubs have offered Sutcliffe an analyst job before (most notably before offering it to the abomination that was Joe Carter) and Sutcliffe turned them down. He doesn’t want the job.
Why? He’s a starting pitcher. He only wants to work every fifth day.
I’m serious. Sutcliffe doesn’t want the extensive work and travel involved with being an every day analyst for a team. It was true five years ago and it’s even more true now that he’s been in bad health.
Even when he was working for the Padres a few yeas ago, he only called about 25% of their games, and the Padres don’t broadcast every game.
Believe me, the Cubs would love to get Sutcliffe as the analyst. He won’t do it.
by Josh77 on Sep 25, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sut would make a great
replacement. But he is probably happy at ESPN for the time being.
Although, if BB does get a managing job, maybe Sut could join Len in the WGN booth.
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you hear Murray's comment last night?
Sutcliffe used the term “us” in reference to the Cubs then quickly replaced it with “them” to which Bill replied, “Yeah, you gotta be objectionable. You work for ESPN, you’re not even allowed to like sports.”
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I missed that
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved that
And finally a game on ESPN with a pro-Cubs guy. It felt good.
by mlern on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he really say objectionable?
not objective?
by TC Cubby on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even a little bit.
That’s my fail.
I did look at that after I posted and knew something wasn’t right but couldn’t figure it out.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ English Lady
However, what I loved most, was that Murray was STILL there and cheering hard during the 10th inning.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only issue
was that he was wearing a bears hat
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, that's Objectionable.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sut is a very good analyst
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Helluva game last night..
no team seemed to want to win it but in the end we still pulled if off. I agree Al it’s great to see these guys still playing hard every night even tho the games don’t mean a ton to us.
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by mkcubs21 on Sep 25, 2008 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Zambrano starting Game 3
especially on the road, where I don’t think he’ll be as distracted as he can get at home. Well, as along as Wolf isn’t behind the dish.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The only Wolf I like these days is the guy from "Pulp Fiction".
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Zambrano sees to get it:
“Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he needs work,” Piniella said. "I wish today were Tuesday, because we could pitch him again Sunday, but we don’t have that option. You know, I wish he would quit fighting himself out there. Just relax and pitch and have some fun.
“He gets angry when he doesn’t do what he expects to do, and it detracts from his ability. I’ve tried to tell him that so many times, and he understands when I tell him. He forgets when he pitches.”
Zambrano said he felt good and he only made one bad pitch—Delgado’s home run.
But when asked about Piniella’s assessment, he replied: “I agree with that. I feel that’s one thing I have to correct in myself. It’s all up here [in my head].”
Now he just needs to take that to the mound.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any reason why Lou couldn't give
Z an inning on Sunday? I can’t think of any, especially if Z is not pitching game 1.
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by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be worth doing...
… because if Z is starting game 3, he wouldn’t be pitching until Saturday, October 4 — that’s 10 days from now.
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
last time he had that many days off..
he pitched a no-no.. Just saying..
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by mkcubs21 on Sep 25, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is he throws a bullpen on Monday
or throws in a makeup game, if necessary. If he starts Game 3, it would be on Saturday the 4th, and he’d be throwing on regular rest if he throws on Monday.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the result
After his last extended lay off.
by gocubsgo22 on Sep 25, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's give him another anti-inflammatory shot too
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by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers would tell you that Z could start Sunday
And tuesday if there was a one game playoff, and Wednesday for game one of the NLDS.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting more and more frustrated with our version of Nuke Laloush. He's
not a kid anymore and he should be able to handle himself emotionally by now. I don’t know what Lou can do to help the guy grow up. This is not the kind of thing you want to deal with heading into the most important post season in the teams history. A million dollar arm and a 5 cent head. That about covers it.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Therapy
that’s about the only thing that could help a 27 year old man with issues like his. How much could Lou or anyone else on the team possibly do? I believe Lou when he says he’s talked to him many times, but he’s also not his mom or dad. The team can only do so much.
I remember hearing Z was very religious, and that he would listen to Christian music before starts. Apparently that hasn’t done much to change him either.
Some people are who they are and will never change.
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
you may be right. At 27 and what 6 full years with the Cubs, this type behavior should of been long gone.
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People can change, no matter the age
I refuse to believe big Z can’t make changes. I’m not sure if the changes can be made in the next 6 days however.
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by graceunderpressure on Sep 25, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
his antics on the mound are getting old. Has wonderful talent, and is one of the top 10 pitchers in the NL, but he needs to growup. Hope he just focuses on what is ahead because the Cubs need a mature “Z” in the playoffs.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Lou...........
………..told him to get back on the mound last Friday, I think that sent a message to Zambrano. Problem is, it seems these messages have to be delivered on a daily basis else this numbskull just doesn’t get it.
I think having him throw game 3 will be a message as well. He’s gotta pull his head out and stop acting like a child.
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by tville on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can act however he wants
as long as he produces…..when he doesn’t produce and throws a fit, that’s where we get frustrated with him
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no, he can't.
Or maybe I should say, shouldn’t.
Results certainly matter, but whether he likes it or not, he is setting an example to many others watching the event.
While Charles Barkley didn’t want to be a role model, the inescapable truth is these guys are seen by kids as “important”. He’s being paid a lot of $$$ to perform for the Cubs, and it’s not too much to ask that he do it with a sense of dignity.
And while Barkley deferred to parents, it begs the question of Zambrano. What the hell can his kids be thinking when they see dad acting like an ass in public?
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by tville on Sep 25, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best example he can set
is win freakin ballgames! so if he jumps around the mound and produces wins, who cares?!?
these are grown men…..they are smart enough to realize that’s not how one should act, don’t give me that argument
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His histrionics affect his pitching
Observers more knowledgeable than us have been saying this for a long time. Last night, Zambrano himself admitted it.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think it's the other way around.
His pitching affects his attitude.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which then affects his pitching
Zambrano did admit that. He’s got to learn to move on when something goes right and limit the damage.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way.............
………….he’s a grown man. Act the part.
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by tville on Sep 25, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hadnt thought of it that way... good point wmhg
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sending the Wolf? Sheet negro, that's all you had to say!
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Winston Wolfe. I solve problems.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Sep 25, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now pretty please - with sugar on top - clean the f***ing car.
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets not start sucking each other's d***s just yet.
by Craig in South Bend on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That gives us exactly... forty minutes to get the f**k out of Dodge.
Which, if you do what I say when I say it, should be plenty. Now, you’ve got a corpse in a car, minus a head, in a garage. Take me to it.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hungry. Let's get a taco.
Oh, wait…wrong movie.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're sending the Wolf?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 25, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you are a character doesn't mean that you have character.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Z" was missing
but some of the calls were really close. That being said when Ramy walked, forget what inning, he looked back at Wolf thinking " well is it a strike?", ball four, and I thought the ball was right on the corner.
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At one point last night there were 18 3-2 counts
and like 14 walks between the teams. I think that was about the 7th inning. When I see that, I see a bad strikezone.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was during the 4-run 5th
he was at 0-2 and came back to work a walk.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Zambrano had good command last night. Many pitches were close.
But he started fighting the umpire. You could read his lips during close-ups. he was complaining and cursing the umpire in Spanish. That took Zambrano’s energy and concentration away and the result when that happens is always the same: a short game and Zambrano has to be taken out of the game. The guy is a head-case.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many of the calls looked like they could have gone either way.
That being said, Z needs to adjust to the ump’s zone and not have a meltdown.
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Z completely lost his focus
when Reyes started doing a Salsa dance half way down the 3B line. Z had just lost a close call on a 2-2 pitch to Delgado, causing Z to storm around the mound before taking the ball back from Blanco (he did the same after a call in his last start). W/ Rami not holding Reyes on, it allowed him to take lead a good 1/4 way down the line. Z actually walked towards him initially before realizing there’s nothing he could do about it. But even on the next stretch, Z couldn’t keep his eyes off him and just laid a meatball on the next pitch.
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by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he didn't pull a Tavarez at that moment
The Braves and Phillies emptied the benches last night because Tavarez tired of Victorino’s dance off 3rd and walked over to confront him.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would have been an awesome fight to see
Cooler head won out tho.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really!!
That’s hilarious
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Victorino did his dance
then Tavarez stepped off and walked towards third. The minute he went back to the mound, Victorino gave him the ‘stinkeye’ and walked down the line again.
So Julian stepped up, threw his arms up and basically acted like Julian Tavarez.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if it was Sheffield prancing around on 3rd
Maybe Tavarez could’ve done his best Carmona impression and put him in a headlock. Although, I wouldn’t mind a Sheffield/Tavarez fight to the death.
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by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome, to another edition of Thunderdome!
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One day cock of the walk, next day, a
feather duster.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Charlie Manuel wanted to see a fight:
“If I had my way, you know what I’d do? Form a big circle and see who wants to fight, I’ve seen that before and nobody fights.”
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I firmly believe th at umps play tit for tat and frequently
ESPN’s “K” zone seemed to repeatedly show that the ump was right last night—but i saw pitches being called strikes aganst our hitters that Z was not getting…that ump was part of the problem.
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by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Howry
Yeah, okay, so Bob Howry didn’t do a bad job last night. I seriously hope that doesn’t mean Lou will put him in any kind of important situation in the postseason because I will guarantee anyone that when it matters, Bobby Howry will completely F’n blow it. I have no doubt about it, so I hope Lou agrees and does not play him.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll definitely be on the PO roster.
which means he’ll probably be used….
by CubFaninNY on Sep 25, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope
that it only happens when we are up by 5 runs or more, otherwise I don’t feel the game is safe with Homerun Howry on the mound. Just because he has one or two good appearances lately does not give me any confidence in him. He will give up bombs in important situations, because that is pretty much what he has done all year.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Lou sees it that way
I’m not sure he has much a choice now. Whom does he trust in a close game if not in the 8th or if the game goes to extras: Wuertz? Hart?
by CubFaninNY on Sep 25, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
he’s not always Mr. reliable either.
by CubFaninNY on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis.
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id take Marshall or Marquis
Anyday in a close situation. Especially if my other option was Bob Howry. I like the guy, but he cannot be used when the game is close.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehhhh
I guess Marquis would be a choice. Knowing how he gets scared of the strikezone in pressure situation, he wouldn’t be my ideal choice.
To be honest I would prefer we clone Marmol and Wood and just use them.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope we play the Mets!
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best way to make that happen
Sweep the Brewers
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again? Well, OK - if you insist
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They love us this week . . .
Let’s make them hate the Cubs again this weekend
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm okay with that.
Anyone else?
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't happen
to a more deserving team.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Questions and Answers on the field and not in sentimental fantasy minds
Z has some shoulder problems, are they enough to DL, no but possibly some time off and then some controlled work on the side will help him—-that is all there is because there are no more starts left.
Howry pitched out of trouble, he is on the roster because he knows how to pitch and how to conduct himself in a playoff series.
DeRosa has a calf strain—-he will get days off till the weekend for tune up——too bad he is knocking on the 90 RBI door, that is a real plateau.
Koyie Hill was tipping pitches……Samardzija was not aided. The ump shrinks when he is exposed to cold moments——friggin bad umps.
Cotts looks like he is playing in October.
Fukudome needs a few more good games, and Ramirez is a MAN HITTER
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by Ivy Walls on Sep 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, obviously, Z HAS HAD some shoulder problems...
…but his velocity seemed fine last night and his control wasn’t bad until that third inning. Is it possible his shoulder is still bothering him? Yes. But it’s not a certainty. The problem seems more mental at this point.
I’m not sure what you mean by, “The ump shrinks when he is exposed to cold moments.” Hey, that happens to all guys after we go swimming. Give him a break!
And I hope Ramirez is not a “MAN HITTER” – the last thing he needs right now is a felony. Between that and the cockfighting, he could be tied up in court until well after the playoffs.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason Howry was in: Wells wasn't available
according to the Tribune:
Right-hander Randy Wells was a long shot to make the postseason roster, but now he’s out with soreness in his forearm. Wells flew to Chicago on Wednesday to have an MRI on his right arm.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with the fact that
Howry was in last night. I just do not want him to have the opportunity to lose a playoff game for us, and I seriously fear he will do just that if given a chance. I am so worried about it because Lou seems to get more an more confidence in Bob every time he does well, and it seems Lou completely forgets how awful he has been most of the time.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT, but a funny story
Dusty denies that Corey Patterson is dating his daughter after Astro players keep asking him about it. It would explain why Patterson is still on the team.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
it looks like Corey will be out of MLB next year I can’t imagine him finding a home. Minor league deal is all he will recieve if that.
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Patterson playing in Japan?
It could happen!
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by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could he hit .225 there?
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overreaction
seems like Dusty’s affection for Corey has soured:
This is so far out of line. It’s hurtful to my wife and daughter. How can people stoop that low? I don’t know who started it. But I’ve been hearing from fans, players, announcers.
The rumor was just that she was dating him, nothing worse than that. Though I guess Baker might be touchy if people insinuate that his daughter is the reason that Patterson was hired.
by TC Cubby on Sep 25, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one believe
Dusty is forcing his daughter to date him. Dusty loves him some CPat.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dusty wants a grandkid from CPat so that they can be eternally bonded by family ties :-)
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by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A child for the ages!
He’ll consistently hit in the high .190s and will never, NEVER clog the bases.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Note to Z: SNAP OUT OF IT!!
Jeeze even Bob Freaking Howry is pitching better than you these days. Get it together, man!
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by Emelie on Sep 25, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, don't forget
Z pitched a no-hitter 3 starts ago. Could it be that a CG no-hitter took a toll on him? How else do you explain pitching a superb game and then slumping the next two starts?
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z pitched a
no hitter?! I had no idea!
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by Emelie on Sep 25, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuses Excuses
Z gets paid big money to pitch well. Sure he threw a no-no 3 starts ago, but making the excuse he’s tired is absurd. The fact is we need Z to pitch well and the last two starts have been as far from that as possible. I’m not a ledge jumper but big Z needs to get his act together, and now!
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by Lou In Blue on Sep 25, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Im not ready
to stand up and say that Z should be back to normal after that. I can’t say what is causing his woes lately. Excuses? Maybe. But who are we to say that he doesn’t have some sort of nagging pain or soreness from the no-no? We have obviously seen what he is capable of.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's got a nagging pain
then he shouldn’t be playing a game that is meaningless to the Cubs (minus the goal for 100 wins). I would assume it’s just a mental thing with Z. Hopefully he can right the ship for game 3. It’ll be sink or swim!
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by Lou In Blue on Sep 25, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. The nagging pain--
Is in our collective asses because Z is the boy who refused to grow up.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'd be lying if I said...
…I’m still not a little worried about the after-effects of his 110+ pitch no-no. (What was it…115 pitches?) But he had the family issues to deal with in his last game – he was completely unprepared for that start. And last night’s game…well…I don’t know. His velocity really wasn’t down, but his pitches were landing all over the place. That could be because of his shoulder or it could be just a mental thing.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At times, it looked like he was over-throwing
out of frustration, I assume.
Also, I know it’s a small sample size, but his numbers when Blanco catches this year have been noticeably worse. Batters are hitting .266/.355/.452 against him when Henry catches, versus .236/.308/.353 when Geovanny is behind the plate.
Just something I noticed before last night.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm, interesting.
Maybe he just needs his good bud Geo back there to settle him down.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is probably it.
Geo knows how to get Z to settle down.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two of them seem to have really good chemistry.
One more example of just how valuable Geo is to this team.
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing gratuitious about our Geo
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by Emelie on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the only reason he's struggled, obviously.
But maybe Geo’s tricks – like mouthing words to Zambrano without speaking and confusing him on the mound – work.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coincidentally, he was only 1 or 2 pitches away
from giving up NO runs late. IIRC, Only one hard hit ball all night off him all night.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, he gave up only three hits last night.
Those walks just killed him.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
White Sox/Twins
Do the Sox have an extra game to play against the Tigers at the end of the year if it ends up mattering? Why isn’t it on their MLB.com schedule like the Astros game is on ours?
Looking more and more like that one game is going to matter.
by kurtness5 on Sep 25, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe so, sox fan
in the office said so yesterday.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you're right.
Those two games are only going to be played in identical circumstances. The Sox game should be on their schedule.
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by Al on Sep 25, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. It's rain-out make-up from that week where it rained every day.
Let’s hope they choke it off again tonight and run into the Cleveland buzzsaw – they have to see Cliff Lee on Sunday.
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by lostinthevines on Sep 25, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why hope for that?
I don’t care too much one way or the other, though I think it would be kind of cool for both teams to make it to the post-season for the first time in God-knows-how-long.
by SuperContext on Sep 25, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for the shark
I am not sure that i agree with walking whoever it was with 2 outs. I know the lefty, right thing and I guess you are taking away a possible drag but in that situation, but from a pitching stand point, at least i always had the issue when i pitch in college, it is sometimes hard to throw four pitches that far off the plate half speed then come right back and start throwing strikes, your timing gets offs that quick. Anyway, thats something the he will learn how to make those adjustments.
Another thought I had during the game, Sutcliffe point out that Dome just cant stop on opening way up no matter what he has tried. I wonder if they had thought of having him start with an open stance much like D Lee that would force him to step into the ball?
Let go cubs
by cubsfaninkc on Sep 25, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But he cannot
walk Ramon Martinez in that spot. Has to throw strikes there.
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt know ramon was still in baseball
whates even more shocking is that he isnt starting for the reds
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Sep 25, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
next year he will be their starting SS
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am shocked he isnt right now
i mean dusty brought in all of his favortie cubs that got him fired…. Where is Neifi and Ramon???
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by fischisgod on Sep 25, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way...........
……..he bumps Jerry Hariston Jr. from that role.
Plus Neif! will be the back up, so Ramon will have to move to 2B……….
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by tville on Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL--how true.
I hated to see Ramon walk—but he had that look in his eye that it was Cub payback time.
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by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I know for sure...
This is just theoretical, but do you think that maybe Lou made him intentionally walk whoever that was in order to see if he could handle the pressure of the situation? Samardzija is one of those bubble bullpen guys, and it may have been a test. When you have “nothing to play for” (I put that in quotes because obviously we need these guys to stay sharp), you can do things like this.
by rambler19 on Sep 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
I think Lou is trying to win games and did what he thought was the best way to do so.
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly
but I think you intentionally walk the batter in that situation in most instances so that there is a force at every base. I don’t think it was necessarily just to test Spellcheck
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by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he was going to test him he would have BROUGHT him into a situation like that...
There is no way Lou says, “pitch yourself into a jam kid. I want to see how you handle it.”
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
It’s not like he pitched himself into the jam on purpose. He was in a jam whether or not it was 2nd and 3rds with 2 outs, or bases loaded with 2 outs. Obviously, you set up the force out at every base when walking the bases loaded. Plus, Ramon Martinez has played in exactly three major league games this year, so between him and Endy Chavez, he is probably the guy you want to go after. Chavez doesn’t strike out much either.
Anyway, I was just throwing it out there to see what people thought. I understand they are trying win ball games by doing the right thing in each situation, but who knows, right?
by rambler19 on Sep 25, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess, but I hope that thought didn't cross Lou's mind.
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KEEP HOWRY ON BACK BURNER
I saw Bob Howry enough during the regular season …I don’t want to see him during the playoffs . Spells disaster for the Cubs .
by cubs north on Sep 25, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Extremely happy with the way we are playing right now....
Takes a lot of resiliency (sp?) to come back after being down 5-1… I love that we never give up… I really hope that Harden wins tonight and then we sweep Milwaukee and get to play the mets in the first round. They dont scare me in the least. .
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Sep 25, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
in a game that “doesn’t really matter” for us…..it would have been easy to roll over and give it up
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly OT:
The Brewers were apparently a little upset when Lou started McGehee and rested Ramirez the other day.
To which I would just like to respond, try focusing on winning your games and not collapsing, then you wouldn’t have to worry about who the Cubs are putting on the field. Maybe this is why you may not be in the playoffs like you should be.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kiss my ass Brewers
Win a damn game. They won’t be complaining when they face McGehee over the weekend
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, this REALLY makes me want the Cubs to sweep this weekend
and kinda gives me mixed emotions about the last game with the Mets.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... this pisses me off.
When you have to worry about a team to win or lose to get in you probably don’t deserve to be there. I swear this Brewer team is more consumed with other things than just WINNING. The Cubs have the luxury and every right to do what they are doing. They are competitive, resting guys and still winning.
F’ em…
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by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the absence of maturity on both the brewers and astros is glaringly obvious.
its probably not a coincidence that they are 2 contenders that likely won’t make the postseason (altho the crew still has a chance to)
by philadelphiacub on Sep 25, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus they are playing the Pirates.........
shouldnt they take care of their own business with a team as bad as Pirates. How can one complain about about a few substitions when the Mets are playing the Cubs who are the best team in the NL.
Mets have 4 w/ Cubs and 3 w/ Marlins, Brew Crew has Pirates then Cubs. Easier schedule for Brewers than the Mets correct?
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope they sweep
so we don’t have to see any untucked shirts, especially Fielder’s. Gross!
by mlern on Sep 25, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame.
Maybe LaTroy can print up some “McGehee Screwed Us” shirts for them.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember the big stink from the BREWERS and their fans
last year when Cooper started 3 rookies against the Brewers and the Cubs made offhand comments?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, at this stage even the Brewers can't screw up winning the wildcard...
Cubs are going to toss Lilly and Dempster no more than 5 innings max. Marquis is the only starter who might go longer because he will operate in the pen in the post-season. Plus the core starting lineup will play quite sparingly all weekend. If Milwaukee can’t get the job done under the circumstances of the last week and with us beating the Mets at least two games?
by MDBNIU on Sep 25, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if that's true (and it's hard to tell from the wording of that article)...
…the Brewers should get together with the ’Stros and form a support group.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, an Astro fan I know told me that some Houston talk radio shows are
getting calls that the Cubs are intent on throwing their games against the Brewers so they won’t have to play the ‘Stros in Minute Maid Park after the official season ends. They’re trash-talking that the Cubs are afraid of the ‘Stros, and are afraid of playing them in their own stadium (as opposed to Wrigley North), so they’re gonna play “nice” with the Brewers.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We ain't afraid of no 'stros!
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're ready to relieve you!
(of your playoff responsibilities)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is so cute
Lets send the Peoria Chiefs to play them if that game is necessary.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even
Let’s throw Boise at them.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boise
has good players, could take two of 3
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by Grockcubs on Sep 25, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boise could probably beat Peoria
so yeah, they could take 2 of 3 from the Milwaukee.
by Josh77 on Sep 25, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Well, hey, whatever 'Stros fans need to do...
…to make themselves feel better, have at it. The truth is that life is not fair and good teams find ways to overcome even the toughest challenges. The truth is also that, if the Astros had played better ball earlier in the season, they wouldn’t be scratching and clawing for an outside shot at the Wild Card to begin with.
Fact is, the Cubs are the best team in the National League this season. And ’Stros and their fans are going to have to live with that one way or another.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i had a phillies fan friend call me last nite (after the phils got samcked 10-4) and say:
“whats going on? I thought the cubs were supposed to beat the mets?”, to which I replied: this is called clinching homefield throughout and resting your starters. If you’d just beat the braves you wouldnt have to worry about the cubs 2nd string beating the mets for you
by philadelphiacub on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, as things turned out, the Cubs beat the Mets after all.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably should have focused some of that energy...
into not getting swept by the Mets at home to start September. The Cubs are 4-1 against the Mets this year. The Brewers are 2-4. Whose fault is that?
by hokie316 on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Selig's?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hurrican Ike's?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame it on the rain.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Milli Vanilli's fault?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess hack lip synchers.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lip sticked pit bulls
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by Emelie on Sep 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa watch it obama
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Brewers see what the I-Cubs did to the Cards last Sunday?
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by DeRoMyHero on Sep 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great win, but man is it painful to watch Ronny Cedeno attempt to play baseball...
Once again, a few times times in that game where you just shake your head on Cedeno. He really does have a shockingly low baseball IQ. Piniella looked like he was going to grind his teeth down to dust on a couple of Ronny’s plays.
by MDBNIU on Sep 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well get used to it
Dome didn’t inspire much confidence with Lou last night. Fair or not game 1 of the playoffs will most likely feature Ronny Cedeno starting at 2B.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not Fonty?
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Against a righty prolly Fonty
Left handed starting pitching means ronny cedeno
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ten out of ten times
The umps will call out a runner sliding head-first to first base. Out of principle. Cedeño would be a better asset if he remembers not to slide onto first base. But he made a good play in the 9th throwing out the lead runner.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, it's a dumb move.
But it’s something you just can’t beat out of some people. Even DeRo did it earlier this year.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus you don't get faster to a base sliding down.
Actually, the ground slows you down. You only slide down on second, third or home to avoid the tag and avoid running over the base. Those are not concerns when you are running to first. So, don’t slide. Just run as fast as you can.
Apparently, Cedeño wasn’t taught that. Or his microscopic brain cannot grasp it.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I yelled at my TV.
But he’s not the first, and won’t be the last to ever do that.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found myself getting really into the game
only to have to tell myself that it didn’t matter. Z’s third inning aside, it was fun to watch.
I also had, for a moment, the feeling that the Cubs wouldn’t be entirely pissed with losing in the ninth. The outfield was playing in on the triple, and Theriot double clutched the ball when he might’ve had a play at third. I thought maybe they, like I was, were really against the idea of playing extras. Now, before I get flamed for suggesting they would throw a game, I don’t think that. I just thought it was quite the coincidence and rather humorous.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i got two questions answeresd by Jim Callis of BA
yesterday.. He said he thinks Pie is trade fodder, and he ptrefers Vitters over James Darnell. I really like what we are doing with Vitters by the way
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by fischisgod on Sep 25, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The worry for the postseason is the bullpen...
Piniella can’t toss Carlos Marmol out there for multiple innings every game. That means Bob Howry, Jeff Samardzija, Neal Cotts and Sean Marshall HAVE to get the job done in middle relief. And that is the point of contention that causes me great indigestion. Awfully big shoes to ask Jeff Spellcheck to fill at this stage of his new career.
by MDBNIU on Sep 25, 2008 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If only we had a hard throwing righty who can strike guys out for one inning a game
Oh wait, Angel Guzman. He has had some control issues, but for ONE inning a game he can do the job.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's my dark horse i'd love to see make the post season roster
but i doubt he will
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by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to agree with you on this
but middle relief has been a big part of why we did so well this year. It is a lot to ask Spellcheck, but I think our starting staff will get us deep into ballgames.
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by Lou In Blue on Sep 25, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could, as noted above
be blamed on Koyie Hill’s positioning being read.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee, thanks for keeping us up to speed on your gastrointestinal status.
Middle relief is generally a soft spot for every team. Would you rather the Cubs have a bullpen like the Mets or Brewers? We just need to have faith that the Fantastic Four will go deep into games during the postseason and, if middle relief is necessary, those guys will just have to step up. I’m not overly concerned about it.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, I thought facing Santana or CC was making your stomach hurt?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this in a fan post but thought i would post it here too...
I don’t see the Brewers making it and if they do, the pitching is going to be beaten down. They are pitching Gallardo today who hasn’t pitched since the game at Wrigley in April. Apparently they are going to only let him throw 3 innings. So they are really going to eat up that Bullpen. They have Sheets slated to go Saturday and who knows what they’ll get from him, then CC is going AGAIN on Sunday on his 3rd 3 days rest start. This team is giving everything they got to get in, if they do make it. I see that being the reward for them and that’s about all.
Plus, I think the Cubs take 2 of 3 this weekend!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aim higher!
I hope the Cubs take all 3, especially if the Brewers are whining about McGehee.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great!
especially if they trotted out the line up they did on Sunday vs the Cards this Sunday and still beat them!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's to McGehee playing
the three games, going 10-14, 2HR, 8RBI.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And pitching a No No
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by tony412 on Sep 25, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and take all 3 using the AAA lineup
beey-atches.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think
it is disrespectful (maybe the wrong word, but it’s all I could come up with right now) what the Brewers are doing to Sabathia. Using him this way knowing it won’t affect them at all next year.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree
except that I saw him on TV last night saying that he pretty much wants the extra starts. It does come off looking like the Brewers do not care if his arm falls off though.
by adam316 on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a good word would be that the Brewers are "abusing" him.
I’m not sure why he’s going along with it, I guess he is a good team player. Or maybe, he really feels strong enough to pitch so much.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose we don't have all the information
but it does seem like they are abusing him. He is in a tough spot, if he says that he doesn’t want to pitch that often and it gets out, he looks like he isn’t a team player. But if he pitches this often and wrecks his arm, his chance at a big contract is shot.
This time of year we hear a lot about the integrity of the game with teams that are out of it playing their best because that is what they are supposed to do. The Brewers abusing CC doesn’t seem to fall in line with this integrity, IMHO.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does it because:
(1) He really wants to win.
(2) Imagine how much more money he is going to command in the free agent market if he can c arry a team into the postseason pitching like that.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, I can't imagine how CC's arm is going to keep going.
He’s like the Energizer Bunny. Wonder if that’ll haunt them in the playoffs, assuming they get there.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 25, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Zambrano in the 3rd
I think he was subject to a terrible strike zone by the home plate ump. NOTHING was consistent. That doesn’t excuse the issues he had — several of those pitches were obviously balls — but if just ONE of those strikes had been called properly, we’re out of the inning.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was a pitch in the Wright/Delgado sequence before the Granny,
that was called a ball to Wright and the same pitch to Delgado was called a strike. I thought he was very inconsistent all night.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew -- now that Z himself has admitted to being the cause of some of his own problems
Are you wiling to concede that point?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
/crickets…
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got a job
you know. Sometimes I even have meetings.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just givin ya crap
I did wait, though, until you’d responded to something else after I posted the question
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
I was at my desk, then away from it… been working since 6:45 already…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does the baby want a bottle?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we thought you were committed.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
without the money I make from my job, I can’t afford the wide-screen HD TV and Dish network to watch the games!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+Higher than I can count
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
owl hoots
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just nod if you can hear me
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
leafs blow off in the distance
and I don’t mean a hockey team
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Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly agree
that he needs to relax. I still believe that when he loses control of his pitches, that triggers his emotions, not the other way around.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I half agree with that
It triggers the emotion, but I think it snowballs
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that's certainly possible.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the walks alone
Its Z’s reaction to the walks. If he gets a bad strike zone, takes it in stride and doesn’t let it throw him off his game, maybe he gets out of the inning only giving up a run or two instead of a grand slam.
In other words, its not the adversity, but how Z dealt with it that worries me.
by SuperContext on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how the ump's do, too.
Sut pointed out the Mets pitcher showed frustration in the first and didn’t get close calls. Z, on the other hand, took an objectionable (yes, right use of the word this time!) call, shrugged it off, and came back and got him. That’s the Z we need next week.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z's my favorite pitcher on this staff
but there comes a point where you’ve got to take your Lovie-colored glasses off and stop defending players to a fault. As soon as Z refused to take the pitch back from Blanco after the missed call, I thought this is where Z can show resiliency and just make ONE more pitch to get out of the inning. But then, like I mentioned, he let Reyes get to his head and lost all focus. Z admits it, and I think that’s a start. Now let’s just hope he can capitalize and I have faith that he will.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
refused to take the ball?
come on. You guys can’t have it both ways. Either you complain because he doesn’t work to keep his emotions from affecting him, or you complain that he takes a few seconds to walk around and try to dispel his tension.
He’s an emotional guy. He had ONE really bad pitch, and a lot of very questionable calls from the ump.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN's Sportscenter said the Cubs/Brewers is tomorrow night's game.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 25, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So the game is on ESPN?
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Saturday on Fox, Sunday on WGN. Great way to close out the regular season.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Imagine if this was the battle for the division. The games would be nuts. Thankfully we kicked their butts.
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be a shut in all weekend.
Then emerge Monday unshaven and squinting into the sun.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bright thing in sky warm, but hurt eyes
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 25, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what they said this morning.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet the Chicago market will be blacked out
but I’m not sure yet.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be...
… but the game is on CSN+ in the Chicago market. So everyone gets to see it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Al
Directv subscribers can get it on Ch.666 in SD and 666-1 in HD.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta look it up for DISH Network...
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
i hate CSN games.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shea last night
You would of thought Wrigley moved east with all of the Mets fans ready to jump off the edge.
As they were in their glee in the 7th, 8th & 9th many of the cubs fan in attendance were reminding them that Cotts, Hart & Smardijan were all in AA / AAA for most of the year and Howry has been horrible and they still could not will a win.
Glad to see Lou not throw Marmol.
Also hope that Smardijan grew up last night. After blasting 2 fast balls by Delgado why the hell do you show him that again. With an 0-2 count and now one on. Throw one in the dirt or at the mascot. He is one of the best hitters in the MLB and you dont beat him often with 3 straight fastballs
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what Sutcliffe said during the game on ESPN.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing against Hill
But would of been interesting to see how Soto or Blanco handled Jeff in that situation
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by parrotinct on Sep 25, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valid points one and all but, sorry, I just can't let this go:
Smardjian? Really?
Here’s a handy formula to follow: Sam + ard + zija = Samardzija. Or just call him The Shark.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Spellcheck.
Same amount of letters.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Semi-OT: New York Times Mets Report
I sense some desperationin that clubhouse.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm happy about that.
Especially after hearing the Mets announcers on XM radio talking about that ball hitting the bat two nights ago was a bad-luck omen to the Cubs like the 1969 black cat.
They were giddy with the feeling that the Mets were gonna win the series, the NLCS, and the WS.
Man, they were jazzed up after Santana’s win two nights ago!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They called THAT a bad luck omen?
Sounds like they’re looking for any excuse to tag on the Cubs.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
I was going to say this after last Fridays game, but with clinching Saturday it slipped my mind until last night.
So sitting in the bleachers during the game Friday there was a ball hit into left center field that was clearly closer to Sori than it was Edmonds, however Edmonds came MUCH closer to catching it after running a long ways. Anyway after the play you could hear Edmonds turn to to Sori and say “What happened? Did you lose it in the sun?!?” The way he said it came across like “How in the world did I come closer to catching that ball than you?!?”
Not really sure what it means, I just thought it was a funny exchange showing that Edmonds can still be a grumpy old man, even when it comes to $136 million dollar men
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From what I've read
Edmonds has emerged as a leader in the clubhouse (that sounds weird), and it doesn’t surprise me that he’d chastise Soriano a bit if he felt that he was dogging it after the ball.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano dogging it? Why that's a novel thought.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
once again i really don't think sori dog's it necessarily
i think he just takes terrible routes and also under compensates so he doesn’t make a huge mistake
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I probably chose the wrong word with ‘dogging’ it. I think he just misplays his routes and tries to compensate for those routes with his arm strength.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he'd much rather
give up a single and keep the ball in front of him, than try to make a diving catch and having it go behind him……so people take that as dogging it
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Soriano and Cedeño will open up a baseball academy in both the Dominican Republic and Venezuela...
and pass on their baseball acumen to youngsters. Just kidding!
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Apparently, Soriano himself admitted, at least on the offensive side of the ball that he used to not run and just watch his HR’s but claims he’s since matured and learned his lesson. Personally, I could care less really anymore, as long as he helps us win ballgames and puts the team first, which I believe is something he’s doing.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He definitely takes poor routes to the ball. Plus, he doesn’t seem to judge the ball off the bat very well resulting in late jumps or jumps in the wrong direction. It seems like once a week he comes in a ball that he should start back on.
And I agree with most of you, I don’t think he dogs it…on a side note, I can’t remember the last time I actually saw him lay out for a ball. He doesn’t seem to like to leave his feet (except for “the hop” of course…).
by rambler19 on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
St. Louis, two weeks ago
His sliding grab of Pujols’ liner in the 8th helped win the game.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is an accurate assessment
which probably explains why he guns down so many runners. They see him take awkward and untimely approaches to balls and think ‘Screw it I’m running’ only to realize they immediately regret their decision.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were saying last night (I think)
that Edmonds took a moment in the clubhouse before the party started after clinching the NL Central to remind everyone that this is just the first step to the ultimate goal.
If someone had told me earlier in the season that there would come a time where I was happy the Edmonds was in our clubhouse, I would have laughed long and hard at them. But, his experience with winning the WS just a few years ago will be valuable.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the muffins are warming in the back of the hall
that room got too small to hold the Jim Edmonds fan club. We’ve rented out the IBEW hall for our weekly meetings.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it's strange.
To piggyback on that, he had the toast after consulting with Lee, so he’s not even stepping on toes.
From what I’ve read about Edmonds, it runs contrary to everything I had heard/assumed when he played for St. Louis.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10000
my impression of Edmonds when he came over was that he was a loner and kept to himself. I don’t think that anymore.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
And I eat crow very often.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never been so happy to eat that crow.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's how I read that exchange.
Good for the senior player, and captain of the outfield to do.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrigley is so cool
to be that close to the action to hear something like that…..were you in LF too?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Just how I read what you wrote.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess hacking lip reader
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by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy's plethora of playoff play should pay off perfectly
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alliteration rocks!
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alliteration's absolutely awesome
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy likes that.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy digs Elaine.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy likes his chicken spicy!
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy's down!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I'm not. I'm right here.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Right down there.
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Edmonds has never gone slowly after a flyball
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
given that the center fielder is the captain of the outfield
it’s a legit question to ask, I bet.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he wasn't really asking a question
rather chastising sori for not making a better effort to get to the ball
i just thought it was funny to see the old vet go after the superstar
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Tonight's game
It’s pretty dark and cloudy here in DC, and it looks like we’re gonna have a little weather tonight—both DC and NYC.
From the NY Times:
If the Mets’ game is rained out Thursday, it will require a makeup game after the regular season if that game affects the postseason. That would annoy the Cubs, who have clinched home-field advantage throughout the N.L. playoffs and would not want to play a game that is meaningless to them. It could even affect the farewell-to-Shea ceremony planned for Sunday, the final scheduled regular-season game at the stadium, if the Mets had to play a makeup game Monday.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching the Today Show this morning
their forecasts indicated maybe .25-.5 inches of rain in NYC by tomorrow morning.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's it
move the game to Miller!!!!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough
that’s what they were just suggesting on the Dan Patrick Show
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we play with a full passion bucket
at Miller
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z plays better at Miller because the home team clubhouse is so cool and big
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard a rumor that we were going
to play all of our away games at miller next year. Any truth to that?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL baseball games will be played at Miller next year
including the minor leagues.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard the buckets are bigger at miller
therefore you can put more passion into them
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beer, too.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just gonna post about this. Its probably too late now,
but this game should be played this afternoon at 1 or 130 to make sure it gets in before the rain. Besides, the cubs have to travel after the game.
by philadelphiacub on Sep 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved
how pumped Theriot was when DLee doubled him home. That is what makes this team so good and so fun to watch, their effort is rarely the problem.
You can tell how Z is doing based on how he catches the ball from the catcher, last night I thought he was going to punch the ball when it was coming back to him.
Z might be angry he is not going to start game 1, he needs to deal with it. The Cubs need to stop worrying about his feelings, I’m sick of always worrying where he is mentally. He either needs to get his emotions in check or be able to deal with the fact he is not the Cubs ace.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Sep 25, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He didn't so much catch the ball
as absorb it into his black hole of hate.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love me some Fistapumpin Theriot
I, too, thought It was awesome how he looked towards the dugout and raises his fist in all its double-clutching glory.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Riot wasn't just pumped...
he was DOUBLE PUMPED!
see whut ah did thar?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thar whut u did, i seez it
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a great article on Demp,
I’m sure it has been posted somewhere on this site but I didn’t find it. This got the juices flowing at about 7:45am.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26862168/
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's leave Z off the playoff roster. :)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Sep 25, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! Let's let Jason start game 3!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Sep 25, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone shed some light on when the times for the
playoff games next week will be selected?
I have tickets for Game 2 (Thursday) and am trying to make plans to get from Minnesota to Chicago but at this point it’s not decided whether it’s a day or night game? Will that get decided when it’s for sure who we’ll be playing? Or when?
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not till they know which teams are in the two NL series
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which might be Wednesday morning...
if all the nightmare weather and potential tie-break scenarios play out.
by hokie316 on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we will be the day game both days
noon or 230 central start
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by nji232 on Sep 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think they'd put the Cubs in prime time if they have a choice
but I wouldn’t mind at all if they play day games.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will you be able to watch them?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day games are prime time for me
Night games – I will watch them, but it will be tough. I have flexible working arrangements but taking my daughter to school in the morning isn’t flexible….
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by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How will you see them -- satellite, PC, etc?
Just wondering
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll be on NASN, an extra pay-channel I subscribe to
that is all US sports. I have MLBTV too, of course, but won’t need it for the postseason.
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by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Well, I hope you get day games and I get tickets. Day games would be easier on the 2% chance that I get tix for both games.
A tough one would be night game 1 followed by a day game 2 . . . I’d somehow find a way, though!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Good luck on the tix. I’m signed up for the NLCS and WS draws. Didn’t want to blow my FF miles on an NLDS scenario like last …. not gonna say it.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, couldn't there be two playoff games on at the same time?
With TBS and FOX splitting up the NLDS and ALDS? We would only get one of them in that case. There’s a chance I might need MLBTV for some games after all, at least in the first two rounds!
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right -- that could happen
Not likely during the day, though. I think…
Sometimes they try to stagger it: 12 PM, 3 PM, 6 PM, etc.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most likely playoff opponents:
New York, LA, Philadelphia.
Since they’re all major markets, TBS and MLB won’t want to pass up a ratings bonanza, so I’d guess the games would be at night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it they are day games
and i cant get off work, i’m shutting off all communication with the outside world until i can get home and watch tivo
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will be quite a challenge
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be forced to try the same thing
but I don’t think I will succeed. I will just listen to the feeds on MLB audio while at work
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried that during the REGULAR SEASON
and it didn’t work. If they’re day games I’ll be right here.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine they will be day games.
Last year, every Cubs-Diamonbacks game was at night (for ratings), while the Phillies and Rockies played the day games.
Unless one series is LA-NY, I think the Cubs will be playing at night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it doesn't look like LA-NY is going to happen
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's LANY? And where is Squiggy?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts (altho somewhat touched on above)
1. Today’s game should be a day game to get it in before the rain. It would REALLY SUCK to have to make up a game in NY and HOU (who still isnt eliminated) before next wed. I realize hou prolly will get eliminated, but in the event that the cubs have to make-up a game against both, I say just let hou and nym play each other and let the cubs rest
2. Its really really nice to see DLee & Ramirez getting these clutch hits lately- it only instills confidence going into the postseason. This team is playing pretty well considering these games “don’t mean anything”
3. Man I’d really like to play the metropolitans in the first round- they’re having trouble beating 2/3 of the Cubs line-up
by philadelphiacub on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today should have been scheduled as a day game...
… being getaway day and all.
But there’s no way it could be changed on such short notice.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+100
And I’m working from home today, so I could’ve watched it.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool fact on the ESPN broadcast last night:
Ryan Theriot is hitting around .300 this season. The last Cubs SS with at least 100 AB to finish the season hitting .300 or more was Ernie Banks.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heard that one too
pretty impressive
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I started to think that, then remembered
the revolving door that has been SS some years and the batting eye owned by those guys. Part of that stat would I guess be Dunston occupying the spot for the most years and not threatening .300 on the field or in writing.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fixed it just for you Oakley...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eww. Definitely the wrong WW.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, she was still pretty hot back in the day.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why did you post this, you know blue mike doesn't like porn
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh huh.
So were Kristy McNicol and Tatum O’Neil.
I refuse to be judged by women I thought were good looking when I was 12. Back then, I was just wrong.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You realize, of course, that your out of you mind...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
she is still pretty good looking today, IMO.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like you're the first to tell me this...
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what my 12-year-old self is talkin' 'bout.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 12 year old self liked this too...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Flashback, Batman.
Is her name Erin Grey? Or am I thinkin’ of someone else?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...it's Erin Grey...don't you remember Silver Spoons?
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by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long lengs and a spandex jumpsuit - woohoo!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got the entire Buck Rogers
DVD set for my birthday. I also have the BattleStar Galactica original DVD set. All my dream girls in one place!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's where I remember her from.
I wasn’t a big “Silver Spoons” guy.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was definely an Erin Gray guy.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I had completely forgotten about her.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even in you dreams?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stilletto heals and spandex. I think they
were trying to say that 25th century is going to be a rollicking good time.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you're talkin.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would drink Linda Carter's bath water
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am still ready to do your bidding Linda Carter.
Please respond to my letters.
Sincerely, Blue W.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this more up your alley?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you are being cruel.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks suspicously like the OU fan from yesterday--but in drag
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Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is freakin' amazing.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
is not the word I would choose to describe this :)
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
by gwood on Sep 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I did say "freakin'" amazing.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.i have tha actual mag in front of me...
and I like your version better than the Leon Lett wannabe on mine.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I checked after reading that
He came close a handful of times, but never hit .300 for a season longer than 73 ABs as a Cub. He hit .300 combined with the Pirates and Cubs in 1997.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did too.
.315 in 1992 and .400 in 1993 (only 83 combined at bats) .296 his last year is threatening. and .284 his last partial year. The remainder, whoa.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. I always liked Shawon and still do
But he reminded no one of Rogers Hornsby at the plate.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+English Lady
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by N Oakley on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this reminds me
with the win last night, i’m officially out of the contest we had earlier this season guessing how many games the cubs would win
i went with 95 and i couldn’t be happier about being WRONG…..however my batting average for theriot was pretty close, i guess .305
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've still got a shot at the wins, but no way Theriot gets the average up to .313.
oh well, I’ll still take 99 wins.
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by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always want to win
but it sure felt good when the Mets kept threatening not to be all nervous and sitting on the edge of my seat. I was even able to eat and watch the game at the same time.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I wanted to see them win badly, but I also didn’t want the game to go deep into extras. Partially because I didn’t want the Cubs to have to use more guys than they had to, and partially because I can never stop watching a close game. I didn’t want to be up all night.
Of course, with the new baby, I was up a lot of the night anyway. So I suppose it didn’t matter.
by rambler19 on Sep 25, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note
Did anyone notice Ernie Banks and his wife adopted a baby girl? 77 years old and adopting children. I was worried about his health for awhile, but if he’s doing this, it must not be that bad.
Link: click
by rambler19 on Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's, um, interesting.
Does anyone happen to know how old Ernie’s wife is?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She obviously much younger than him....
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by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
those are some kickin’ shoulderpads…
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Ronnie Woo Woo?
Wearing a wig?
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Sep 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1000
Wow, talk about a double whammy. You insult Mr. Cub’s wife and mention He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named in the same post? Would you like to set up a payment plan to get out of BCB point debt?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that wrong?
Was that wrong? Should i not have done that? I tell ya, if anyone had told me when i started working here that that kind of thing was frowned upon….
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're fired George.
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you want to be my latex salesman
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vandelay Industries, Vandelay Industries!!!!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about being a sports commentator? You know how I always make those witty comments during a game?
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Sep 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah well
I think they gives those jobs to journalists or ex-ball players.
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Kieth Hernandez - remember the incident? What incident?
Kieth Hernandez spit on me.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I turned and the spit ricochet of him and it hit me.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that is one magic loogie!
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Sep 25, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The spit then bounced off Kramer's shoulder, and made
a right turn in mid-air mind you, thereby striking Newman in the right wrist.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know there had to have been a second spitter.
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by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not fair
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Sep 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NIce game, pretty boy.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not takin' him to the airport!
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know one thing about first base
you’re not getting there
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, uh, I'd watch the third base coach
if I were you ‘cause I don’t think he’s waiving you in
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Sep 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you jealous of him
or jealous of me?
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know!
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna know why they were at something called "Celebrity Fightnight"
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ernie's wife is 19--GO CUBS!
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And - Hoff-Power is Outplaying
D. WARD.
Hoffpaiur singles last night in a key AB, while Ward fails once again by popping up.
Will Lou go with the “veteran”, in a Dusty move?
by The E-Man on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sure
with the small sample size of ONE AT BAT EACH.
Ward = clutch.
Hoff = not.
Hoff will not be on the post-season roster.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not seriously judging a player on a single AB, right?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's totally valid.
The one time I played Russian Roulette I won! Ergo de facto, I will always win.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You work for the bank, the bank works for me...
…Ipso facto…I’m your boss.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Semi-OT: Steinbrenner hates divisional series and the wild card
This guy is outright insane, unhinged and loco in the coco. Sporting News
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in other news, the sky is blue.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, this just in - water is wet.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, syrup and butter on pancakes is good.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moist.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually syrup and peanut butter is much better...
That is what I am eating for lunch right now
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Interesting.
Never heard of that one before…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I add the peanut butter instead of butter... it tastes good
and you don’t even notice it’s healthier.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhhhh on PANCAKES...
I was thinking sandwiches…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pancake sandwiches!
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Sep 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like peanut butter and honey.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's good stuff.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a sandwich or pancakes?
because peanut butter pancakes and syrup is delicious.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pete's sake.
I don’t particularly care for the 3-division format either, but this is bordering on stalking. YOU FIRED TORRE. GET OVER IT.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he acts like the yankees record is SOOOOO much better than the dodgers
what is it? a difference of four games?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 25, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
George is getting upset!
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank, not George
George is pretty much done running the Yankees. He can barely put a sentence together these days.
The funny thing is, Hank doesn’t run the Yankees either. His brother Hal does. And Hal isn’t saying anything.
by Josh77 on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But there wasnt a Hank on Seinfeld!
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steinbrenner whining?
Shocking development. I’m shocked.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My $.02 on Zambrano
I wish someone would remind hime the astonishing amount of money he’s being paid to pitch. It’s one thing for a hitter to simply make the most of a good pitch.
It’s wholly another thing for a grown man making more per inning than most people make in a year to stomp around like a child when he doesn’t get his way.
I think it’s honestly time for Lou to literally grab Z by the shirt and say “GET IT TOGETHER! STOP ACTING LIKE A CHILD!”
/rant over
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 25, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Z needs to learn to care less about whether the team wins or loses
Grow up!
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yogi Berra says to Z:
“Half this game is ninety percent mental.”
- Yogi Berra
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every player on that field
cares about whether they win or lose as much as Z does.
But they are mature enough not to throw tantrums, and choose not to let every pitch dictate their performance.
Z is the one who needs to “grow up!”.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 25, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW - Hoff vs. Ward
Uh – no of course I was not counting last night as the “sample size” – please.
I agree Ward won the one Marlins game. If you look at the stats, the dude is 4-17 for the last month.
Hoff-Power in half as many AB’s has nearly the ENTIRE SEASON’S total of hits Ward has.
Look it up.
by The E-Man on Sep 25, 2008 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where you're getting those numbers.
In the month of September, DWaryle is 3 for 15 in 17 PA for a .627 OPS. Meanwhile, Hoffpauir is 3 for 20 in 24 PA for a .675 OPS.
Also, DWaryle has 96 ABs on the season. Hoffpauir has 57 – that’s well over half. And you know where else Micah has almost caught up to DWaryle? Strikeouts. DWaryle has 21, Hoffpauir has 19. I’d also point out that, for a guy who was brought up for his power, Hoffpauir has yet to hit a home run.
But we can toss around all the stats we want. For me, it comes down to this: Although Daryle Ward is not having the greatest of seasons, he has consistently proven his ability to hit major league pitching or at least work a decent AB. Micah Hoffpauir has not.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit..there is already a big band of rain coming toward NYC
About 100 miles off the coast and the first of many bands spinning off that disturbance off the NC coast.
There is no way we are getting this game in tonight.
Someone posted about Sutcliffe….did you guys take note of him calling the Shark out on his pitches. He noted everytime Shark kicked his lead leg out to third base it would be a fastball and everytime he cut it in and halfed his step it would be a breaking ball.
Huge thing to correct for Shark moving forward….
Sutcliffe is awesome and a great guy. Just a normal joe…..
by mmancubfan on Sep 25, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't Shark, it was KHill whose pitching setup was tipping the pitch.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...my bad....was doing a presentation for this AM meeting last night during game...
Now the note about Hill above now makes sense…thanks…..
by mmancubfan on Sep 25, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
METS SUSPEND SEASON
The Mets today announced that they are suspending their season so that they can fly to Washington and deal with the Nationals crisis. They’re not going to show up for the game tonight unless the Nationals can get over .500 by then. “Now is the time to put aside our individual team goals,” said Mets Manager Jerry Manuel, “and come together until the problems with the Washington Nationals are solved.”
The Mets have suggested rescheduling the scheduled games for next week during the NLDS. “We can play a double-header,” Mets GM Omar Minaya said. “The first game will be a make-up, and then the second will be the first game of the NLDS.”
Cynics point out that this plan would allow the Mets to start Johan Santana two more times this season instead of one, which might be their only chance to make the playoffs. But Minaya said that was “The kind of thinking that puts team before league. That’s not the type of thinking that we need at a time like this.”
by Josh77 on Sep 25, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the contrary
a good team can multi task—simultaneously deal with a Nor’easter and play playoff implication ballgames.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on Sep 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are the Mets also cancelling their appearance on the Letterman show to deal with this crisis?
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Sep 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No More Mets This Season! And Shea Stadium is History!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Sep 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
zevkalman
don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Sep 25, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when the Mets hosted SNL?
Man, that was lame.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
but they are going to appear with Katie Couric on the news.
Man, that was a funny thing to watch. When you’ve lost David Letterman…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ English Lady
This suspension is purely a scam for them to avoid playing the Cubs again. I will not debate this any further.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - this McCain thing is a new low... even for them.
Didn’t think they could ‘stun’ me anymore, but they sure did. (sigh)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um....okaaaaay....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too OT
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you di---Wait, What?
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
by Jayo525 on Sep 25, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Sean Gallagher enjoying his time in Oakland
yes, that’s everyone’s favorite Rich Harden trade piece in the french-maid outfit:
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 25, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm BLIND!!!!
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First he eats a bug and now this.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my question is, where are the Cubs hazing photos?
i’ve gotta think tonight’s the night they’ll be taking the rookies out
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg