The Harden They Come, The Harden They Fall Thread: Cubs vs. Mets, Thursday 9/25, 6:10 CT
Chicago Cubs at New York Mets, Sep 25, 2008 6:10 PM CDT
Without trying to make any political comment, I note that the Rev. James Meeks is intending to "ring Wrigley Field" with up to 6,000 orange-clad protesters, who are trying to make a point about school funding. Mayor Daley is asking Meeks not to do it and in this case I have to agree with him -- to have 6,000 extra people in the neighborhood that day (or night), with all the traffic and security issues that a sellout crowd produces, is asking for trouble.
Rev. Meeks has a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed, one way or the other. Protesting at a Cubs playoff game isn't the way to do it.
Here's the current weather forecast for New York City:This Afternoon: Cloudy, with a high near 67. East wind around 18 mph.
Tonight: Rain, with thunderstorms also possible after 2am. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. Low around 60. Breezy, with a east wind between 21 and 24 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.
Given the fact that this rain may go through the weekend and threaten one or more of the Mets/Marlins games, they'll do everything they can to get this one in. I assume Lou will pull the regulars off the field if it's raining too hard and play the callups.
Today, not one but THREE Gratuitous Geo Photos (and he may actually play by tomorrow):
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Note, the stats above are Harden's with the Cubs only; see the pitcher box for his full season stats.
Here's what the weird schedule, plus injuries, do: Pedro Martinez has been with the Mets for four years, but he has not faced the Cubs at all in that time. He last faced the Cubs on June 8, 1997. That's completely irrelevant to today's game, as Pedro is one of only three players in that game who are still active (the others: Mark Grudzielanek and Jose Vidro). Just thought you'd be interested in a little bit of Cubs history. Pedro faced Alfonso Soriano quite a bit when he was with the Red Sox and Soriano was a Yankee. If there's a day to give Soriano the day off, today is it: he's 7-for-43 vs. Pedro with no walks and 15 strikeouts.
Rich Harden, in his final regular season start this year, has never faced the Mets. The only current Met to have more than six career AB vs. Rich is Carlos Delgado, who is 1-for-7, that hit being a HR. Harden has thrown 142 innings combined this season, so he wouldn't have qualified for any ERA titles even if he had been in one league the whole year, but coming in with a 2.03 ERA combined, he has a chance to have a sub-2.00 ERA in more than 140 innings, quite impressive.
Today's game is on CSN Plus -- that's a change from the original schedule, the White Sox game was moved to CSN's main channel. For more see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
As always, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 6 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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first is the worst, 2nd is the best, 3rd is the one with the treasure chest
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
FIRST...to post a picture of a wizard holding a banjo.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
or a wizard dressed like a cat....see what i did there?

"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
there is no banjo in that picture....very dissappointing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
How did you get a picture of my dad..
Wait and my that’s my cat also.
by ThisOldCub18 on Sep 25, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, if this doesn't deserve a HP reference, I dunno what does, SWL...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Ok...but it had better include a banjo reference too...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You haven't heard about the 8th Potter book?
Harry Potter’s Hootenanny and the Bellowing Banjo?
by SuperContext on Sep 25, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
POTTERGASM!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say it because I knew you wanted to, drew
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
we reach
water brother.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
SABREMAWOOZIWHAZIT!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say the Geo trifecta ought to insure the win
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Yep. Done deal.
No need to even watch. (But I may anyhow.)
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
These games are treats
No real repercussions (for the Cubs at least), so I don’t have to get too worked up about the winning and losing. I wanted to scream at Z last night, but that’s about it.
by SuperContext on Sep 25, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I was listening to radio coverage
When Z had his melt-down. I think I would have been more upset if I had actually been able to see him stomping around out there than I was just hearing Pat and (Corey?) talk about it.
by SuperContext on Sep 25, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd imagine...
…Lou would want to give a couple of AB’s to most of the starters against Pedro, especially considering they may see him again in a bigger game next week.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
What we gonna do tonight?
Start off strong with Rich, get him a few innings of work before the rain comes, then get the bullpen a few more innings of work, including (maybe?) getting Shark back out there to straight out? Mets sure as hell need this one more than we do. At least they can take condolences in the fact that although we beat up on them, we are just as likely to beat up on the Brewers…
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Depends on the weather
if it’s raining, and the conditions are deteriorating, get the regulars off the field – no need to risk pulling something.
I look for about 5-6 innings from Harden, then Hart, Guzman, maybe White Castle.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I kinda miss Lieber for games like what I'm envisioning tonight's is going to look like.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
And Randy Wells is missing tonight, too.
Someone might have to bite the bullet for 2-3 innings tonight if it gets ugly.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I have a scheduling problem
New episodes of Earl, The Office and Sunny in Philadelphia, plus my wife’s soaps. It’s always a pleasure to see Dick Harden throw. Pedro may want to tackle Lou.
I guess that’s what a DVR is for, huh? I’ll record the shows, send my wife to the other room and watch the Cubs.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Pedro has really declined fast.
Remember when he was great… that really wasn’t that long ago.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
Yes he has...
…a little less bite on your breaking ball and a few less feet on your fastball, can make a huge difference.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
few less feet on your fastball?
He actually doesnt throw it as far anymore?
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
Sort of...
…it doesn’t go as far, as quickly as it used to.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Paul Sullivan cracks me up
The Cubs are traditionally known as Major League Baseball’s most prominent hurricane magnets, but they’re also magnets for tropical storms and Nor’easters, as evidenced by the latest forecast for their final regular season game tonight at Shea Stadium.
Heh. Stupid weather.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Paul is a funny man
Quote from earlier this year…….“the Cardinals starting rotation is the least imposing foursome since the Knack”.
Pedro Martinez has been with the Mets for 4 years?
Already? That seems highly, highly inaccurate. What a weird tenure he’s had with the Metropolitans.
Oh, I remember
it’s just weird to think that he’s been there for 4 years already. I was still in high school.
haha
Joe Posnanski encounters a jumper:

This would be slightly less amusing if it hadn’t been the Cubs that brought him to that point.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
Wow this picture is AWESOME
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
even if i didn't already loathe the Mets
the IDEA of a mascot for a baseball team is enough to push me over the edge.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
the only mascot in all of sports i don't hate is the Phanatic
everyone else is teh s uck.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I got ya
But, I find it hard to hate a guy/gal stuffed in a muppet costume that probably smells worse than the soil room in a nursing home. Pretty nasty job, glad we don’t have one. And anyone who would willingly subject themselves to that while walking around in front a baseball park in the sweltering heat — without being on the payroll of the team, is nuts.
I do miss the ball girls tho

Totally worthwhile
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 25, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
She looks rather uncomfortable
next to that Philli ballboy’s junk.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey baby...
…it’s not just my job title, ifyaknowwhatimean.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Note the "younger-slimmer" Milton behind the man taking the picture.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
good eyes
20 years at Wrigley will do that
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 25, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
PROOF!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Another SWL classic
so when are you putting together a book of your creations? I smell another Project 3000 fundraiser…..
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 25, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
coffee table book.
it’s a moral imperative.
I’ll even let you put my CUBS-Team masterpiece in it. :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Marla Collins
I still have the playboy issue of her.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Sep 25, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!
HEY CHICAGO WHADDA YA SAY? CUBS SURE DID LOSE TODAY!
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
you're singing about barely beating the IOWA cubs
you know that, right?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I just had to get it on man.
Yeah, I actually mentioned that fact on Amazin this morning.
Man, you just got to understand that over in New York Mets country, any win is a good win for us. It’s tough seein the ups and downs.
No hard feelings pal.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Sep 26, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
This is great
Last year when the Mets werent doing all that great, Conan OBrien did a series of Mr. Met trying to off himself. It was very funny.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 25, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm supposed to go to a Nationals game tonight...
…but the weather stinks here in DC: rain, rain, rain, … maybe they can get 6 innings up in NYC through this rain, but I doubt that there will be many fans in the stands.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
For californiachicagoan
Remember this argument?
My brother’s making the trek from Melrose Park to see this game— obviously, he’s rooting for PSU. Man, I’m excited for this game.
Less than 48 hours, bud.
Agrh
I wish I was there, to make fun of both PSU and Illini. GO BADGERS!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Oh don't gimme that crap.
PSU has played horseshit teams, that’s a fact. Meanwhile, the Badgers played a nationally televised game (at night!), against a scary-ass Fresno State team. I’ll reevaluate PSU after this Illini game. Your road schedule is a hellva harder than Wisco’s.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Hey easy on the PSU schedule...
…it includes my beloved Oregon State. I will make my prediction for tonight, OSU 38 USC 31.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
Wow I would love that.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Your Badgers favored by 6 this weekend in Ann Arbor
Which WI team will show?
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
You're kidding, right?
Michigan is 100 out of 120 teams in points/game, 88/120 in rushing, and 101/120 in passing. And they got blown out by Notre Dame last week!! ND!!
It won’t be close.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Dude, if the Badgers don't beat Michigan by 30
i’d almost count that as a loss.
Michigan is awful.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone that is a betting man (or woman)
might wanna grab that line ASAP, if it really is -6…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what they said when Ron Dayne came to town.
Just kidding. If MI plays like they did with ND, WI won’t need their offense.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
This thread is lame. Everyone knows that USC is the best.
Trojans rule everyone.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I want to see LSU/USC still
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Chase Daniel will be more than happy to set you straight in January
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Heck yeah!
I-L-L I-N-I! First game against decent competition for ya. So are those pot boys gonna play?
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I got the GeoSoto alternate away jersey.
I’ll post a FanShot with pix soon.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
ooh
i LOVE the blue jerseys.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the blues. The greys with CHICAGO on the front.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
that's the regular away jersey.
the blues are the alternates. :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
the blue ones are the alternates
the greys are the road jerseys.
I’d probably like them a lot more if they weren’t always paired w/ the red-billed hats, which i loathe.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed.
The red-billed hats can go away.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard they are gone after this year.
Although I can’t remember the source…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hawk? They gone!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Provided they just use the blue cap
and don’t find another goofy away hat.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I admit, I really like the
patriotic hat. The deep navy hat they wore for Sept 11 and 4th of July.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't.
I preferred just having the flag adorning the regular caps like they did after 9.11.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Those were alright
but I liked how subtle the flag in the logo was.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
That part I liked.
I didn’t like the navy color for the rest of the cap.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Like the old Pirate's striped stovepipe hats?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
But not the red-billed cap that sits on top of my TV
News flash: I’m a superstitious Cubs fan. Used to be that I would rotate the cap on top of the TV to indicate whether the Cubs were at home or away, but I got real busy at work and forgot the rotation in about mid-May. The Cubs were heating up, so I left the away cap where it was.
I went back to the home cap once, right after the Midsummer Waste of Time. The Cubs promptly dropped series to Houston and Arizona. I righted the cap, the Cubs righted the ship, and the red bill stays there to this day.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Wow. You did have a lot of time...
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus, if we make it to the WS
we’ll technically be the visiting team (from a certain point of view).
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Pardon me
How stupid of you to think that your hat could have caused the slump. Everyone knows that the slump was caused by my lazy failure to put my Cubs flag out front again after the break.
We can share the blame
Glad we figured it out, though. Heaven forbid that the outcome of games rely on on the players’ performances alone.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I have a Cubs flag.
got it in July from a friend.
Never flown it. But I think it goes up when the post season starts.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant the alternate alternates. Yeah.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
no you meant the road grey
theres the home pinstripes, the road grey and then the alternate blue ones.
:-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
(sarcasm)
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
you're missing this

There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate the blues...
if only because it’s not the same shade as the home blue caps. Big Z prefers to wear them, but I really think the team should just have home white pinstripes and road grays. You can kind of see the blue shade difference in this picture but definitely on TV and in person.

He prolly thinks the blues
are slimming
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The blues
dont go with the pinstripes. They look good with the grey pants though
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 25, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Geo looks very good in blue jerseys
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 25, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
In regard to Geo...
we typically think of the wear and tear on a catcher’s legs. Buck Martinez and Tim McCarver were talking about Geo’s catching hand on XM the other morning and how beat up it gets during a season with the flame throwing staff the Cubs have.
"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
A triple shot of Soto before I go to work is just what I needed!
He has a Mark Grace-esque look to him in the middle pic. As far as the jerseys go, There will still have to be a blue top of some sort. Z likes the blue ones. And I would never want to see any more redon them than what there all ready is.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 25, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Fellow iPhone user?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
You are making me jealous!!!!!!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
It works on the crackberry too.
FWIW, I used to hate the top 100 cubs as I had to scroll through it to get to the lead post.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
It looks like the D-backs are out of the NL West chase
Down 10-3 end of 7th.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
they fell apart
strange game, baseball.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember when it was us and the Snakes
tied for the best record in baseball?
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
think Maddux starts
a post-season game?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, how would a Dodger rotatio go?
Penny, Kuroda, Maddux?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Billinglsley, Lowe, Kuroda, Kershaw
n/t
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
really?
when did that happen
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm confused
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll get to game 4?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That rotation makes me wanna puke it looks so horrible.
But their staff somehow gets it done, hell if I know how.
Dodgers’ staff is:
- ERA (us #2)
- H (us #1)
- R (us #2)
- HR (us #7)
- BB (us #7)
- SO (us #1)
Don’t have their WHIP in front of me, but I’d assume it’s damn near the top. Still, I hate the Dodgers as a team, because it continues to boggle my mind HOW they are winning.
Dan
PS – And FWIW, their offense is about middle of the road in just about every category, while we are top 3 in nearly everything, our lowest is triples and stolen bases. Our offense is much, much better.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
That didn't format right:
the numbers on the left are the Dodgers’ rankings, and ours on the right.
ERA – 1
H – 2
R – 1
HR – 1
BB – 2
SO – 5
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Um, what?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The stupid BCB didn't format my rankings.
The 2nd set of numbers are the Dodgers’ rankings, and ours are in my first post (us #X).
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I only have one set of numbers
where are you getting this? just link it.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This post has numbers on the right side, with the CUBS rankings
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/25/621867/the-harden-they-come-the-h#8988029
And this post has numbers on the right side, with the DODGERS rankings.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/25/621867/the-harden-they-come-the-h#8988058
Both posts are immediately after each other…first one is Cubs, second one is Dodgers. I tried to include both into post #1, but it instead formatted my numbers to a 1-6 ranking, to piss me off.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'd imagine having a million games against the NL West helps
and pitching all those games in those HUGE parks.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh.
I’ll let Colin take that one.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Really?
Am I wrong enough that Colin has to explain things to me?
Sigh. I love Colin, but he’s usually so far above my head I get more lost.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
I just don’t want to take ballparks into account right now. That’s it.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Just look at their home/road team pitching splits...
It’s pretty telling how much their ballpark helps them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
the ERA difference is startling
2.96 at home, 4.45 on the road.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
now compare that to the Cubs pitching splits...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
whoa
3.77 home, 3.96 road.
yay for consistency.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Utmost respect for Maddux...
…but I think he hung on a year or two too long.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Someone tell MDBNIU....
he’ll sleep better knowing 2007 is over.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Those power pitchers are laid to rest...
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
but... but... but...
THE KING!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The King?

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Game is final 12-3 Cards
Augie Ojeda (remember him?) flied out to end the game.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
D-bags are eliminated from playoff contention
Dodgers win NL West.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Baseball can be a strange game
Last season, they allowed more runs than they scored, but won 90 games and went to the NLCS.
This season, they scored more runs than they allowed, but missed the playoffs despite playing in an easy division and could finish under .500.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
When do the Dodgers celebrate?
Obviously after the game, but it doesn’t start until 9:00 Central.
Old Style is the nectar of life.
Haha
I love the comment “clearly the best team in baseball” referring to arizona
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 25, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou confirms Demp as Game 1 starter - per Gordo
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Fearless prediction:
The television coverage of tonight’s game will include a shot of some New York fan with a look of shock / horror / disgust / hopelessness on his face, as he looks on with glassy eyes, thinking, "I should really trim my mustache."
"What's the score?" "Nothing-nothing." "Who's winning?" "The Bears."
Just a little off the ends to even it up.....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez, you could walk a tightrope with that thing
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Best last night
was the Cub fan consoling the Met fan.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That got a good laugh out of me, too
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
+1
Who says Cub fans aren’t compassionate?
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Been there, done that.
We understand, Met fans. We understand.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
This was linked in the recap thread
but seriously, you need to watch it. High-larry-us.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2ebdbf7133
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions
Wow that was AWESOME.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
i thought so
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
good song!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
loved it! those guys are gooood
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
harsh, Fonty!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
but the “dude” from Geo cracked me up.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I am on Soto overload, lol!
very funny stuff!
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 25, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
lineup
pie
riot
hoff
edmonds
fonty
mcheehee
dome
k-hill
harden
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Glad Soriano's getting a day's rest
Especially since Pedro apparently eats him alive.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
It's a PIE-RIOT!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
now theres a get away day lineup
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
-100000000 for Casey
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
no a fan of the legend of mcgehee?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Could you be a little more clear? I'm not sure I understand.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't understand? I always thought....

more animals
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Oh man...
Wherever I move they follow me…
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
look at you, all current and stuff!
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers are gonna be pissed :)
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
settle down, Luke
you can go to Anchorage tomorrow.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
The geek in me loves that.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I can hear the Brewers crying about that lineup
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
let 'em
i care not.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The best is gonna be when we send out the A-Team this weekend
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Love it when a team comes together.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I'll make more.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
And they get around in this:

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 25, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Howling Mad Dempster?
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
wicked photoshop skills
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
we can win this game anyway. It IS Rich Harden. It’s not like the Mets are going to be patient at the plate.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
just hope richy has his command.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
wow.
I’m glad to see Pie in there, but that’s one of the starting lineups from early spring training!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 25, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Brewers are gonna be pissed.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What do they have to be angry about?
The were the ones with the pretend manager the last 2 years…
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll bet...
…they do well against Pedro.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Little OT, yet still fantastic.
Lil Wayne is now blogging for ESPN…
A la Deadspin:
It’s unclear whether Wayne actually typed up this column himself or, like most of ESPN’s other celebrity bloggers, simply shouted sports-related nonsense into the phone to a frustrated freelance editor in charge of making it palatable for an audience unfamiliar with “Alphabet Bitches”. For the sake of that editor’s personal safety, I hope Wayne is happy with the end result.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
That link somehow got me to
this which has the at-bat music for most of the players in MLB. No Cubs obviously but its still fun to mess around with
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
so theres a list of all the irritating music they played last night?
if the cha cha slide plays ONE MORE TIME during a baseball game, someone is getting kicked in the shins.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
EVERYBODYCLAPYOURHANDS! CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
*kicks SWL in the shins*
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
just realized
that… prolly does nothing.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes a hollow sound, perhaps.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
SWL's Shins counterattack on playground equipment from space!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know whether to be worried or intrigued...
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 25, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
only nobody clapped.
Not to mention when the Cubs had the bases loaded, half the stadium got up for crucial pitches. Nobody directly behind the plate in those cushy seats. I swear I hate “robo-fans”.
Actually they did.
And that’s the problem.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
AWESOME.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 25, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgive you for being a Mizzou fan.
This is bonerific.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Cst_cubs just announced
that Dempsters the game 1 starter according to Lou
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
HELL YES!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 25, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully that is Z's wake up call..
Hopefully he’ll come out pitching lights out in the playoffs to prove he is the #1 for next year..
Your 2008 NL Central Champs: Chicago Cubs!!! Go Cubs Go
Z can still prove himself for later rounds
if he gets his act together -something tells me there is a large TemperTantrum on its way tho
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 25, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Negatory. Not this year, not with Lou and this team full of leaders.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
no temper tantrum
or no Z recovery?
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 25, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think Dempster, Lilly and to a lesser extent Lee, grab this team by the scruff of the neck and lead them to the promised land.
Z will have to start acting like an adult if he wants to lead this team.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 25, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Me
likey
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 25, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs lineup tonight...
Wow, the Brewers are really gonna be pissed at Lou now!
Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
We got in the perfect position by winning last night.
Guaranteed at least a series split, know the Mets will be coming tonight, might as well rest your guys. It’s brilliant and we’re fortunate. Onto to the weekend, then onto the playoffs.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 25, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It's called good, clean livin' my friend.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
How's about a little First Pitch Thread action?
Over here: http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/25/621858/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

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