Micah Hoff-POWER Not Enough: Cubs Lose To Mets 7-6
by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2008 8:14 AM CDT
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PrintThe best news about last night's 7-6 Cubs loss to the Mets is: it wasn't postponed or suspended, which would have forced the Cubs to return to New York on Monday to finish up. And, even though we'd have liked to see the Cubs win on a day when Micah Hoffpauir made his case for the postseason roster by going 5-for-5 with two homers, the wins by the Mets and the Brewers last night reduced the elimination number for the Astros (who also won) to one -- meaning that any win by either the Brewers OR the Mets would eliminate the possibility that the Cubs would have to return to Houston on Monday to make up that postponed game.
Now that we've cleared that up, and now that Ryan Dempster has been named the game one starter next Wednesday -- all eyes are on the last playoff roster spot. Will it be Hoffpauir? Lou says he's at least bought himself another start tonight in Milwaukee. But remember this: Hoffpauir won't be starting games in the postseason. He would be on the bench, to serve as a middle-inning pinch-hitter. As a pinch-hitter this season, he is 3-for-13 (all singles) with a walk and seven strikeouts. He isn't really a good defensive player -- there were a couple of balls that got by him at first base last night that Derrek Lee would have stopped, and you wouldn't want to see him in the outfield in a playoff game -- and so, if I were making the choice, I wouldn't make it based on one spectacular game which isn't likely to be repeated. Felix Pie is my pick for the final playoff roster slot, presuming the Cubs do go with 11 pitchers rather than 12 (and Chad Gaudin is rapidly pitching himself off the roster), due to his speed and ability to play all three outfield positions. I'm more concerned about Mark DeRosa, who now may sit out the entire Milwaukee series with the mild calf strain he suffered on Wednesday night.
The loss took away any chance for the Cubs to win 100 games this season (unless they sweep the Brewers AND the makeup game in Houston is played, an unlikely scenario), but if they can sweep in Milwaukee they'd have 99 wins, the most by a Cubs team since 1935. The 840 runs scored is the most since they scored 847 in 1935; only two Cub teams since 1900 have scored more than 847 (both in high-offense seasons: 982 in 1929 and 998 in 1930).
Also last night, Rich Harden made a decent showing in his final start before the postseason, though the five walks is too many, as were the 98 pitches in six innings. Harden gets at least a week off, as he won't throw till at the earliest next Thursday in game two, or, depending on the opponent (Lou might want to throw Ted Lilly vs. the lefthanded hitting Phillies in game two, if they wind up being the opposition), maybe not even till game three on the road. I was surprised to see Koyie Hill catching last night -- he won't be on the postseason roster and Henry Blanco will, and Blanco could use some playing time, too. I assume Hank White will catch at least one of the games in Milwaukee this weekend.
So the Cubs return to their second-favorite park tonight, where they have won all six games they've played there in 2008 against two different teams, where they'll have a fair number of fans -- a quick check of ticket availability for Miller Park just before this was posted shows Sunday's game a complete sellout and only SRO tickets for tonight and tomorrow. TV and schedule reminders: tonight's game has been moved to CSN Plus for Chicago-area viewers, but has also been picked up by ESPN, so it will be available nationally; and tomorrow's game time has been changed to 2:55 to accomodate Fox. Here's the link that normally carries the market listings for Fox games; as of this morning it hasn't yet been updated for tomorrow's games.
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First!
Let’s get some W’s in Brew Town.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
OK, Hoff-POWER went 5 for 5.
Maybe it means nothing, but then again…
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
After ONE game?
What if he goes 0-for-5 tonight? Then will you lose confidence?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well, 5 for 5 and 0 for 5 still mean he is batting .500 after 10 Major Leage At-Bats.
And if you want to talk small sample size, I can easily make a 95% confidence interval showing that his numbers are still quite respectable.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I just have more confidence in him now than I did 2 days ago.
I still believe he could easily go 0 for 5 tonight, but I do believe more in his potential. If he does awesome tonight, though, I will be torn between having him or PIE on the playoff roster.
I don't.
He had one good day. Talk about small sample size.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Play the hot hand for now, Al.
We’ll see if Hoffpauir remains hot this weekend, starting tonight.
I’d probably take both him and Pie to the playoffs and leave Ward out.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Hot hand?
ONE FREAKIN’ DAY makes him the “hot hand”?
Wow, you guys sound like my friend Phil in the bleachers… every time someone does well, GET HIM IN THERE, every time someone does poorly, GET HIM OUT OF THERE.
You’d need a 95-man roster if Phil was managing.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No, the weekend will tell us if Hoffpauir is the hot hand or not.
But as Lou said: So far, Hoffpauir has not hurt his chances to be in the postseason roster.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Phil must be related
to Ozzie
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Play the hot hand
Start Micah all weekend. And then take Pie for October.
Ward is a superior pinch hitter.
I think the playoff roster depends a lot
on who we match up with in the first round!
Since we can switch players on/off for each series we might not need a platoon in CF… particularly if we end up playing versus LAD who only have RHP starters.
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
defense matters more in the post
than offense. We have bats. We need an impeccable set of gloves.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
when you see a guy like Micah playing first…. you really get an appreciation for D. Lee… yea the guy hits into a lot of double plays… but he saves a lot of games at first that go under the radar.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
How soon we forget....
2-3 in the Colorado game
4-8 in 2 games at Tampa
2-4 at Toronto
The guy’s hitting .387, give him SOME credit for having a pretty good season. Jeez.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Great.
So that’s five good games. Big whoop.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
And weren't all those starts?
If he’s starting a playoff game, I may find a ledge now and put my reservation in.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
As I had to repeat about 12 times last night...
…..I’m not advocating Micah starting and with the need of a PH in the playoffs, I see Ward getting the nod, but my complaint is all this “Ward is clutch and Hoff sucks”. That I disagree with. At least this season.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
wasn't here last night. sorry.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Ward's numbers are ancient history.
He hasn’t done anything lately. I insist, this series is about momentum. Play the hot hands or go home early.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Ancient history?
Guess you forgot the game-winning homer in Florida in August.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
It's September 26th. The guy isn't hitting past the pitcher's mound right now.
Let him hit this weekend and see if he regains his stroke. If he does, I’m all for him in the playoffs roster.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm for him playing the next three.
I believe he’s on the roster and at bats the next three games will help him keep things going and probably improve.
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The bottom line, I think, is this:
Clutch situation, men on, need to score runs. I have far more faith, and feel far more comofortable with Ward up there. It’s not a surfire, nor is it the same as having Ramirez or Lee up, but it’s the best PH option we have.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd argue that that's more than Ward this year
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Hate to break up the party
But Ward hit .462 in inter-league play, which is nearly as relevant as Hoffpauir’s stats versus Tampa and Toronto.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Al said Micah had one good game....
…I was mentioning others. So thanks, but it had nothing to do with Ward.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
It is...
…but the guy can hit and I don’t think there is any question about that. Looking at the smoothness of his swing, what he did in AAA and last night, tells me he can do some damage if given the chance.
Here is where the problem comes in (IMO). Micah appears to be a guy who thrives when he gets his share of AB’s and that is not going to happen if he is on the playoff roster. When you get that one chance to do something (as a pinch hitter), it takes a different type of focus, mentality and experience. I am not so certain that would be an environment he would thrive in. Being a successful pinch hitter, is one of the more difficult roles in all of baseball, and I would tend to go with experience on this one.
I have to admit though, his bat intrigues me and I would be real curious to see what he could do given extended playing time in the bigs. The chances of that being with the Cubs is minimal, but he may be a diamond in the rough as a DH in the AL.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Sep 26, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
If you look at the full box score last night, beyond Pie 1-5 and Hoff 5-5, there’s also the matter of Pie SB (3) and Hoff E (2). Those two numbers could be magnified quite a bit in a playoff game.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
Do we really need...
2 outfielders that plays D but cant hit? Keep Hoff on and Pie, leave Dome off roster.
Dome has to be on the roster, IMO.
There are too many years invested in him to destroy his relationship with the City and team. Further, from what I’ve seen of the new Pie, he looks like he is currently hitting.
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Dome's defense alone should keep him on the roster
Cubs win last night (or are at least tied) if Hill applies the tag correctly. The throw beat the runner by 4-5 steps.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Absolutely.
While his hitting has turned my hair grey, he’s without a doubt one of the best outfielders in the game.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Well said...
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Torn?
Lets see: athletic OF who can play 3 positions & PR or a 1b?
what exactly is conflicting about that?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree. Now let's say that you had a choice between Hoff and Howry on the roster?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Howry & Hoff?
Is death an option?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, considering a Pinch Hitter is mainly needed for
his offense, I would probably rather go with the person who has the hottest bat.
I wasn't really talkign PH, i was just talking roster spot
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's go over this again.
Hoffpauir’s not a good pinch-hitter (seven K’s in 14 plate appearances). That would be his role on a postseason roster. I go with the guy with experience.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Go with Ward
he’s been a pinch-hitter most of his career. He knows how to prepare during the game to pinch hit, which Hoffpauir hasn’t learned yet.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
C'mon. Ward hasn't been able to hit a ball past the pitcher's mound this week.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter...
…there is an element of clutch with Ward (when the game is on the line). He is just as adapt to put one on Sheffield in a key playoff spot.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Plus, Ward is okay with taking a walk.
which, at times can be just as clutch.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
Ask opposing managers who they'd rather see in on deck circle
Hoffpaur or Ward. I bet I know the answer.
bingo
a K in a pinch-hit situation can be deadly. K’ing 50% of the time as a PH is not acceptable on a playoff roster. Man on third, one-out, top-nine playoff game and you need a sac fly, I still trust the (poor numbers) Ward over Hoff about 4 times as much
by philadelphiacub on Sep 26, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
+11 wins.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That is what makes me wonder why people see him as a DH
… course, I’m an NL girl, the DH makes no sense to me anyway.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
i would go with ward and pie
hands down
however i just don’t understand the amount of animosity people seem to have for hoff….from the comments i read on here people love to rub it in when hoff fails and when he does well it’s still “glass is half empty”
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Well, I'm not anti-hoff persay
but i’m not very into the experiment. If he contributes, I’m not gonna whine and the career minor leaguer who comes up and thrives is a great story…
but i’d rather end the century thing then get into Hoff’s story.
Maybe thats just me.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
i mean you necessarily
i was late coming into the convo and didn’t know where to throw that in…..i have just never understood why people seem to rejoice the fact that they were “right” when hoff does poorly
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I thought thats what you'd meant
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
…besides, next week isn’t exactly when you want to start experimenting.
by sniffy the bee on Sep 26, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree on Pie.
Hoff had a great night last night, but he’s had many more bad swings, especially off the bench. And even if Pie can’t hit off the bench, at least he brings something to the table with his defense and speed.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
Suplus outfield defense and speed is supplied by Reed Johnson and Kosuke on the bench...
Felix Pie won’t make the cut. It will be Micah Hoffpauier. Unless Lou Piniella surprises and leaves Daryl Ward off the roster which I guess is within the realm of possibility.
Why would you want Hoffpauir and Ward?
That’s essentially the same person.
I’d rather trade one of those in for an extra defender late in games.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Exactly. Pitching is king, but speed kills.
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Precisely.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
If Pie is on the roster...
…he immediately becomes your best base stealing threat (by a mile). Besides Johnson, the majority of the the Cubs (with speed) don’t have the greatest base running instincts. This element becomes key in tight low scoring playoff games.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Don't cloud BlueMike's judgement w/ facts
He hates Pie. Nothing will change that.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Pie...yum!
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Soriano isn't far behind Pie
Theriot is though
Yes
but it’s good to have two. Plus, you can’t sub Soriano in for Ward late in a game when you need a run. That’s where Pie comes in.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Brewers vs. Cubs, Mets vs. Marlins
Who has the advantage here, do you think?
Besides the Cubs, i mean.
Advantage: Cubs v Brewers
at least these games are going to get in. Looking at the radar, the Mets are gonna have a hard time playing this weekend. And if it works its way inland, so will the Phils.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
It already has.
I’m about 2 hours south of Philly in the DC metro area and it’s been raining and dreary since last night. The Nats game was cancelled last night, and the weather doesn’t look good for the rest of the weekend.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Fun.
I guess it could be worse…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I probably don't need to repeat it
Since I mentioned him yesterday, but Bob Howry’s performance last night just shows why we absolutely cannot put him in any important situation in the playoffs. The odds are just so bad that he will actually hold a lead that it is not worth it.
This is pretty funny. Nice job.
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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 26, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Ward
Your desciption of Hoffpauir pretty much can be used for Ward as well. Not very good defensively at 1B or in the OF and is strictly pinch-hitting material. No matter what their respective numbers are as starters or PH’ers, you’ve got to go with the hot hand in the playoffs. If Hoffpauir is hitting the ball all over the lot and displaying confidence in his plate approach, you’ve got to seriously consider having him take Ward’s spot on the playoff roster. Very seriously consider it in fact.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
I think Ward is a better defensive player than Hoff is
OTOH, I think Lou is keeping an open mind (more than other people here) and seems to suggest he is willing to take a longer look at Hoff.
As regards, to old minor league journeymen, well I think that the Cards have one or two of those that did pretty damn good this year. No use in discounting Hoff on that regard.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Ward's a much better pinch-hitter than Hoffpauir...
… and that’s how they would be used in the postseason.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
And whenever Ward comes in for pinch
I always know he has the ability to crank a deep homer at whatever ballpark the Cubs happen to be at.
Ward also has years of pinch-hitting experience
He knows how to prepare for his role as a pinch-hitter, which is a tougher role than most think.
Plus, if/when Ward reaches, he’ll need a pinch-runner. Enter Felix Pie and his speed and defense.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Anyone discussed the fact that there is a DH in games 1 & 2 of World Series?
I know I am getting ahead of myself, but it is something the coaches have to think about.
I disagree
you don’t think about it until you get there.
The roster can change for every round of the playoffs (right?)
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought.
The Hoff may have value later, if/when…
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The play at the plate
I think Koyie Hill basically lost the game when he had more than ample time to tag the runner at home. I still cannot figure out why he dropped down to his knee so the runner could just cruise around him into home. I suppose it was a minor league mistake.
OTOH, why wasn't the runner called out on going 6 feet outside of the baseline?
If this game meant something, Lou would have lost his cool.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Not applicable for plays at the plate
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Can a runner run 40 feet away from the baseline, touch the backstop and then score?
Are those the rules?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I think he anticipated Church running through him, so he tried to get low
None the less, missing that tag was inexcusable. Gotta make that play in that situation.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yeah. Why would Church run over a catcher standing 6 feet before home plate?
It’s easier to run around him, as Church did.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Good question.
Hill just wasn’t in good position to adjust if Church tried to go around him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yeah
Seemed like Hill guessed wrong and got slide around.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
he tripped
is what Pat said.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
And now Cedeño is hurt too.
He hurt his shoulder when he stupidly slid from home to first base Wedenesday night. What a mosquito brain!
It still baffles...
…me when these guys slide into first base. The only time you do it is when you are trying to avoid a tag by the 1b. It has been proven, it is the slowest way to reach a base as opposed to running through it.
If I recall, J. Jones used to pull that as well.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Maybe if
They fined players $1000 each time they did that, it would stop
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably not.
I doubt they even think about it. They just do it.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
gotta be stomped out in little league
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard someone say once:
“If diving into first base is faster than running through it, then why don’t you see more Olympic runners diving head-first across the finish line?”
Kinda ended that argument for me, right there. I cannot stand head-first slides into first.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
the guy who won bronze in the 400 i think
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by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't remember --
but I do remember Stone saying it years ago.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
that the guy who won the bronze in 2008 dove?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes. Yes he did.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I always thought Stone was smart
No idea he could tell the future. :-P
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Whenever...
…you slide, you slow yourself down and that is a proven fact. The fastest way to a base is to blow through it. Obviously, you can only do that at 1b and home plate.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
not a fair comparision
1. your body has to cross the finish line in a race not your hands.
2. head first slide onto dirt will leave your skin on your body
Still it is much safer and probly just as fast to just run thru the base
Quick, someone get a hold of the Myth Busters.
Physics tells us
You are slowing down when you slide.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I like the Myth Buster thought, though
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Myth buster was wrong
they tested running and stopping at 2nd Base- typical mythbuster misinterpertation of a myth
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh no you didnt!
Dont you go ripping on the Mythbusters or you and me are gonna have to throw down!
:)
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the show
but on some stuff that i really want to find out an answer to they screw up and frustrate me- the baseball episode was a big one because the sliding test was oh so flawed
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I know what you mean
But 95% of the show is so great!
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
zombie Feyman
agrees :-)
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 to you for referencing xkcd
well done. :-)
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
which is why you dive
and not slide, belly flop on dirt may hurt. lol
But on most of those dives
They stop on the bag itself
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Now that i think of it
Myth busters did kinda do this, except it was to a base like 2nd where you couldn’t run past it.
What were the results?
Keeping in mind that you can, of course, run past 1st
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
if i remember right
it was faster to slide rather than try to run and stop on the base, however they had the girl and two guys (forget there names, not the main guys) doing this, I don’t think they had ever ran the bases in their life.
Would actually be better to dive.
like a third baseman diving towards a ball on the line. Not sure if you could hold onto the bag though. My 2 cents.
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The difference there, though
Is you need your hand on the ground. Not so for running, and your feet are already there.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Money can be a powerful motivator. Or calnesthetics.
Hayes, every time I see you slide into first, you owe me 10 pushups.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe.
But it’s not just Cedeno. DeRo, a favorite around here, did it earlier this year.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I know.
I like DeRo, but he’s not a good baserunner. More than once, he’s been thrown out when on second base and moving towards third on grounders to the left side.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I remember the horrible belly flop into first but I don’t recall him making a lot of boneheaded base gaffes.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
There was a game against Cincy in August
Where the shortstop flipped to second like a double play and got him wandering off second. If you listen to the 2007 WGN radio audio highlights (still on youtube, which I can’t get to from work), there’s a play where he tried for third on a grounder to short. Only two examples off the top of my head in two years, but those are boneheaded.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh okay
You have examples. I thought you might’ve been being a hyperbolic badger. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
No, just a hypothetical one
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I don't need to show you no stinkin' Badgers
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly. I'm so excited by this weekend, I sold my tickets.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
You had tickets at the Big House?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Wisconsin – 23
Michigan – 13
It’s gonna be really ugly, which is just how I like Badger football.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
I don’t know whether you meant to cut half of that picture out, but it leaves it up for interpretation— if you catch my drift.
That guy in the Nittany Lion suit is having way too much fun back there.
Apparently UW has nothing on PSU
as a party school!
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure no one has anything on UW as a party school.
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me too :)
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
yet again.... I replied in the wrong place grrrr
me too… is response to dan’s comment about how he likes badger football played.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
You didn't reply in the wrong place
You didn’t in the SI thread, either. You have to remember that your reply goes below all the previous replies.
Scroll up and you’ll see your first one was a response to Dan.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
it seems at times--i'll hit reply
then before i hit post—17 new posts come up and bump mine into the wrong place
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
I'm going to start to include what I agree with then
maybe that will help
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
hit the up button
you’re in the right spot.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Its only ugly if you lose
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Shanghai
Every game. This year, every brutal game. May wind up selling them all. Will still be rooting for a Ron Dayne years re-do, but I don’t expect it.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
You think the new coach will get it done eventually?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but...
I’m unimpressed. He inheritied a roster of 3 and 4 star players and is jamming his system on the team.
A great coach would be able to alter the system to fit the talent, which he’s not doing. Therefore, Rich Rod is not a great coach, but a coach with a decent system.
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Badger badger badger badger badger
Snake! Its a snake! Badger badger badger badger
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
santa santa santa santa santa santa
PRESENTS! PRESENTS!
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 to both
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're thinking
of Riot. :D
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Ronny Cedeno is not a smart ballplayer
He makes stupid plays on defenses. He routinenly overruns the bag, He slides head first into first base. He doesn’t shorten up on 0-2 counts. The list goes on.
Its a shame too
There is talent somewhere inside of him, and at times he shows flashes of it, unfortunately those flashes are quickly replaced by images of him bunting at the pitcher or oversliding second base.
He is still prolly our game 1 starting second baseman tho.
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I don't know about 'stupid plays'
He’s made less errors (4 in 97 games) than Theriot (14 in 146 games), which is more than half the amount of Theriot per game. He has a better reach and a bigger arm than Theriot.
The “routinely overrun bag” that you so eloquently put happened once in 2007, I believe. Really, really, dumb mistake, but there’s almost a world of difference between the ’07 Cedeno and the ’08 Cedeno.
Theriot started i'm sure most of those game
there is no way Cedeno started 97 games, who has the fielding % handy?
Ward a better PH?
12-62 as a PH this year with 5 XBH. He swings at every single pitch and has been pretty god awful as a PH this year. I don’t think he deserves a post season spot, would rather see Hoffpair.
More relevent, the Cubs bullpen is in shambles. I have no idea who Pinella will throw out there to bridge starters to Marmol. I actually think this problem could impact his decision as far as using Harden or Lilly in game two – knowing that Lilly is more capable of going deeper into game
Good point on pitching
specially when you add to the fact that he’s a lefty. The question is does this push Z out to the 4th game? Who would have thought we’d be having this discussion?
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Actually
Ward has not swung at every single pitch (I know that’s hyperbole on your part). In his last 2 at bats, he’s been ahead in the count when taking his first swing. In fact, that’s part of what makes him a good pinch hitter is his propensity to watch a few pitches and get a feel for the pitcher.
Samardzija hasn’t been terrible – given the choices right now, he’d probably get the ball in the 7th. If Gaudin shows form in Milwaukee (back injuries aren’t easy to overcome), he could be the man in the 7th, too. And lastly, Marshall and Marquis will both be in the pen and can probably throw and inning or two if needed.
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Ward also drew quite a number of walks as a PH.
I don’t have the exact number, but it’s at least ten.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think
its 15
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
It is
12 BB, 3 IBB
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
OK, so...
… that would make his OBA as a PH .351. (27 times reached in 77 PA)
That works for me.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
here are his pitch-count splits
Looks like he takes plenty of pitches. Ward has swung at the first pitch (and had a result) 11 times this year.
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I heard him talk about his approach last year
He said he is very patient and will make the pitcher give him his pitch, if there’s no one in scoring position (or if the bases are loaded).
With runners on second or third, he looks for something to hit on the first pitch. Since I heard the interview I’ve watched him to see if this is true, and found he does follow this pattern.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I have no problem w/ first pitch swinging
especially since a lot of relievers (which Ward would be facing in clutch situation) seem to be fastball-heavy guys.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
No problem at all, if it's in the zone
Just pointing out what the man himself said about taking pitches in some situations and being aggressive in others.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Works for me.
I’m glad he has a plan up there, and I think it reinforces his veteran experience.
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by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Having a plan is good
Just pure reacting is not so good, especially for a PH.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I agree. And it's a learned experience, IMO.
Which is why Ward should be on the playoff roster, instead of Hoffpauir, who hasn’t learned it yet.
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by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
When do you think they'll announce the roster?
I’m ready for the games to start.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
They have until Wednesday
but I think Lou has hinted Sunday. He does like to get these things out of the way (for example the Dempster announcement wasn’t expected till tomorrow, then in got done yesterday).
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Thanks.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
what about the schedule and times when does that come out
I realize it has to after Sunday, b/c who is playing is still up in the air. When do you find out what times the games are played?
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by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
but I set up a Google Alert with TBS and Cubs so I’ll post something if I get the news on that before seeing it here.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I'm trying to find some statistics on pinch hitters...
…but having a damn hard time doing so.
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They're all amazingly small splits.
What you’re better off doing is taking your estimates of a player’s overall hitting talent and applying the league-average difference between a player’s production and his PH hitting.
Agree on Ward.
But remember, the bullpen will be reinforced with starters like Marquis in the postseason. Still, that bullpen was overstretched in September after a long season and the absence of Gaudin. It’s a focus of concern, perhaps the only one right now.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
that is a fair point on walks
it was incomplete of me to post his stats without them. And I think having Marquis and Marshall will be huge, I am just saying that Pinella has some interesting choices — I think Samardija will be decent enough, I hope Gaudin can get his rhythm back but right now guys that Pinella relied on earlier in the season for the 7th inning – cotts, samardija, gaudin – are not looking good.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Sep 26, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
now thats original
lets make fun of the big fella.
really? is this where we’re at?
I feel like an old man. GET OFF MY LAWN.
I need more caffeine.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes. That's where we are at.
CC is a beached whale.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Old man?
You’re what, 3 years older and me? And a girl?
If you’re feeling both old and a man, somethin’s wrong witchya
Why is it wrong
if she’s feeling a man?
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe she ignored that . . . .
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
too busy laughing
and… i really couldn’t come up with a SFW line. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Grumpy
I was implying I was grumpy.
Keep up, grasshopper.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
the dreaded red x
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Homer saying D'oh
shows up fine for me.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
CC just pawn in chess game of life...
But does anyone else hope the Cubs will sign him this winter? Would probably be the best thing in the world for Z’s career and for the Cubs.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
god, no.
CC’s arm is probably held on by baling wire and tape. I like our starting rotation the way it is.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't
I’ll take Zambrano, Lilly, Harden, Dempster and pick from Marshall, Marquis, Samardzija. CC will want 7 years at $20M/per, and I don’t think that’s a good idea. Too many back-loaded contracts as it is.
I’d rather see the money spent upgrading CF if they’re giving up on Pie and SS.
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that they could spend the money in the outfield better..
but these innings aren’t hurting CC a bit. He is the only modern day Bob Gibson in terms of stamina. I hate him as a Brewer but I appreciate seeing a pitcher just go out there and take the ball and pitch well without all the drama of virtually every other pitcher in the majors today. Probably half of the “reporting” on baseball these days is about so-and-so pitcher and he has a little “tightness” in his forearm or needs TJS in the off season or started throwing from flat ground or threw a simulated game or went down to AA to rehab and on and on.
When did pitchers’ arms become made of glass? When they started doing weight training in high school or when it was normal for a 12 year old to learn a curve ball so he could pitch 5 days a week in middle-school/AAU, etc.? Sorry for the soapbox and if you want to know how I really feel just ask.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I wouldn't cry if they signed him
But I don’t think SP is going to be a top priority
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Aren't hurting him a bit?
Really?
A guy only has so many bullets.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Let
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate this keyboard
What I was trying to say before my computer decided to hit “enter” on its own was “Let’s see how many innings he throws next year.” I really think throwing a pitch doesn’t hurt his body at all, for whatever reason. If he crashes and burns next year then I was wrong and he’s just like every other pitcher these days.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
But then it's too late
Because he’s 1 year into a 7-year, $140,000,000 contract.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
That's true.
Someone is going to roll the dice on him for that much. I don’t think it will be the Cubs but it will be interesting to watch next year. So long as he is not with any NL Central team I hope he does well for the life of his next contract.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
This was thrown out there yesterday:
He has thrown 244 inning this year… (+ 1 more start)
Last year he throw 241 innings before the playoffs and he broke down in the playoffs.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
The Yankees said
they are going after CC- I doubt the Cubs get in a bidding war when their rotation is fairly solid for the next few years
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see CC signing with the Yankees or any other AL team.
He likes to bat. I think he’s headed to the Dodgers.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yes, he wants to hit...
I really think he wants a WS ring more than a zillion dollar contract with anyone
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take San Francisco in the CC pool
he’s from the Bay Area, plus, they can throw some cash at him.
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If that happens...
…and they hang on to Caine, the Giants would have a hell of a one through three in their rotation with CC, Caine and, last but certainly not least, Tiny Tim. I guess their offense would still be a pretty big question mark, though.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Zito is actually pitching well lately
believe it or not…
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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Word is Cain will be trade bait this winter for offense
couple rumors had him heading to Milwaukee or Philadelphia. In one trade it was Fielder/Hardy for Cain (though it would probably be 1 of those 2) and in another it was Howard for Cain.
Interesting possibilities, to say the least.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yeah, I've heard the Fielder for Cain rumor...
…but not the Cain for Howard one. That is interesting.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Supposedly, the Phils and Howard
have had some contentious arbitration talks in years past, so they might not want to go down that road again, and they feel they can replace his offense given their park.
And since Cain misses bats, he’d work in Philly.
Should be interesting.
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then CC can be CC while Manny is being Manny.
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by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Just when you think...
…your starting pitching is set for a few years the wheels fall off and you end up short.
We have seen this happen time and time again. You can never never have too much pitching.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
CC's arm is a ticking time bomb.
I wonder if he could sue the Brewers if it falls off next year
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by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think his arm is fine.
As much as he wants to win, I don’t think he would destroy his arm this year at the expense of his big contract to come.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh No Not Howry
That is my scream everytime I see him walking in from the Bull Pen…. Looking for a guy to cut from the playoff roster its him……. Addition by Subtraction….. I am going to barf the
next time I hear about Lou saying what a fine young man he is ….. what are all the rest of the Bull Pen criminals …………….. give me HoffPower ….. no Pie please Korey Jr a 250
hitter “K”
Howry must have “something” on Lou and Larry……………..
by nimblenikelfoos on Sep 26, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions
What he has...
…is experience, good track record and they like the way he approaches the game. This is why Lou has given him every opportunity to get in a positive groove.
With all of that said, I don’t see Lou putting him in a playoff game considering his recent struggles. In fact, his roster spot is probably very iffy at this point.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It may wind up that Howry is left off and Gaudin makes it...
… with the remaining slot going to Pie.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think Howry is...
…50/50 and that will probably be decided this weekend with Gaudin.
In regards to Pie, I’d be surprised if he didn’t make the roster. They need that element of speed and defense in the late innings.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Neither Gaudin nor Howry
are making very good cases for being on the postseason roster, but at least Gaudin was good at one point this season, whereas Howry has been a nightmare all season. That makes the decision easier for me, at least. I’d take Gaudin.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
Agree...
…and I think Howry may be reaching the end of the line. The fact that he has never developed a reliable second pitch, is catching up with him.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I can't believe he has
made it this long in the majors without a 2nd pitch
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
I'm with ya...
…which really makes me tip my cap to him. He doesn’t have the dominant cutter like the guy on the Yankees, but he has relied on pin point control and guts to have a pretty good career.
His problem now, is he has lost some late juice on his fastball (and he knows it) and he has gotten behind hitter trying to be too fine.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
+ 1
Gaudin is rusty. We’ll see if he can regain control of his pitches this weekend.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
he won't be rusty.... if he could stay away from rusty dumpsters :(
anyone else think that is worse than a hot tub injury?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else think the dumpster is just a cover story
for something even more embarrasing?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I still wonder why we haven't heard word one
About alcohol being involved.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I dunno
When you have guy named Dempster on your team, I just imagine the jokes of what Gaudin should be staying away from.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
how about we give you an enter key?
Geez.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Ellipses rule!
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Like everything in life, in moderation
But, man. That was hard to read. I still haven’t made it through.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha
… ellipses
…………………………………………………. dotted line
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
Ellipsis: singular.
Ellipses: plural.
I win.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I had to stop for a minute and reread that...
Oval-shaped geometric figures = ellipses
The … punctuation indicating continuation = ellipsis, plural is also ellipses
You are correct, sir!
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Cheers.
I had to confirm the spelling of the plural form on Word lest I resemble a dumbass.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Math teacher here, married to an English teacher
Best of both academic worlds, you could say.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much
The running joke is that we’ve taught everything in our careers but home ec and industrial arts. Our kids have no escape. (mine is an evil laugh)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
This just means
they’ll become actors and musicians.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
We've taught drama and music too
There is no escape…mwah hahahahahahahahaaaaa
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
What language is this?
None of my Google translators seem to make it make sense.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't want Micah on the roster, at all.
Pie is infinitely more valuable because he plays more than one position (and all of them above average), can be used in running situations, and has a rocket for an arm, meaning his late inning substitution can be used for both pitchers and/or players injured. Micah is a below average defender, can’t run, is “hitting” in the last three games, and is limited to one position.
On a completely different note, we need to beat the Brewers down tonight. The walk-off grand salami by Braun (who I loathe) really boosted the confidence of this team. Let’s show them why it’s called Wrigley North and why we are the vastly superior team.
Is it too much to ask for one final tune-up tonight, with the supposed roster of Game 1 starting tonight (sans DeRo)? Or not?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I also view Pie as more valuable than Hoff on the post season roster...
..and I have to assume Ward’s experience makes him a shoo -in as well…but the utter dimissal by many of you for what Hoffpauir accomplished from spring training right on through last night befuddles me.
Did he key your cars? What gives? Someone said he missed a couple balls last night—i hope you’re not counitng the last play of the game as one of them. It was a tracer shot..the camera man was also unable to track it in time and had a good angle.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
I like Hoffpauir
but I’d rather see him in the pinch-hitter role for a full season before handing him a post-season roster spot. He hasn’t shown an ability to prepare for the pinch-hitting role as Ward knows how to do. He won’t start, unless there’s an injury.
His defense leaves a lot to be desired. The last play was tough, but I was thinking more of the ground ball he misplayed in the 1st. Even on a fielder’s choice he started in one inning, he fielded the ball off to his side and didn’t keep his head down on the grounder, which could have been problematic.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
+1
Exactly why Hoffpauir should NOT be on a playoff roster.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Plus, with Ward on the roster
you need someone designated as a pinch runner for him in case he gets on, who better than Pie?
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
Let Ward walk, then run with Pie.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
A couple guys last night actually said Ward is faster than Hoff
agree or disagree?
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
disagree
a 30 year old w/ back problems isn’t going to be very quick.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
well, I don't know that's it much of a complement
kind of like being the tallest midget.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
It's just that some shoot from the hip to make their point...
Ward is NOT faster than Hoff—and i’m not so sure he’s better with the glove.
BUT…Ward is the gritty vet—so we’ll use him….with that same logic we should take Howry over Jeff Smardzjia (sp?) or Guzman too.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
I think in this case, being a veteran helps Ward
Because Hoffpauir won’t start in the NLDS, Ward has the upper hand because he’s been a pinch-hitter for so long, and on playoff teams. So he knows how to prepare for a pinch-hitting role in the pressure-cooker of the playoffs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I've seen both in the field and though
Ward (last year) wasn’t a huge adventure. Ward’s not great, but can play. Hoff is not good in the outfield.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
thank you Trey an N Oakley
your insights are well reasoned!
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
we try
it always makes conversations much easier. I can understand your points, too, on Hoffpauir.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
“BUT…Ward is the gritty vet—so we’ll use him….with that same logic we should take Howry over Jeff Smardzjia (sp?) or Guzman too.”
No, the difference between the two situations is the different roles being played in the post season. Samardizja and Guzman would be used in the exact same playoff roles as they have been used in the regular season. Hoff’s success in the regular season (starter) has not been in the role that he would play in the playoffs (pinch hitter).
The logical comparison would be taking a rookie who has shown success as a starter and asking if he should be on the playoff roster in the bullpen.
not a good comparison
because, you know… Ward doesn’t suck.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I simply like veteran players more than I do career minor leaguers.
He raised his OPS .200+ last night, so looking at his stats are hard to do. I like the veteran Ward over the rook Micah, and I value versatility much, much more than I do power. With a limited roster, I want Pie there over Micah. My $0.02.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I agree with every one of you on Ward & Pie on the post season roster...
but I still see a player who tore up ST, the minors and was hitting .333 for the year in MLB BEFORE last night’s game…he doesn’t suck—he’s simply too one dimensional…maybe an AL team can use him next year—or maybe we can if Ward performs in clutch post season ab’s like he did last night and for a large part of 2008.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Corey Patterson tore up the minors.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, minor leagues...
Was grossed out there for a second.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
ZING.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait...
How old is Dusty’s daughter?
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha. She is actually 26.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Corey had a very good 2003 season before he tore his ACL
something must’ve happened after the injury.
I don't think he sucks; I don't think anyone on this board feels that way
It’s just that when you’re stuck with 25 players, 14 position players probably, the ones with versatility stand out more. Ward’s defense, even if not the best, is better than Hoffpauir’s. Plus, Ward is a veteran when it comes to pinch-hitting, while Micah is not.
I think Hoffpauir has a role should the Cubs need a DH (I’d take him over Ward), and in 2009 (as Ward’s replacement).
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
You'd take Hoff over Ward in a DH situation?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably
Hoffpauir seems to do better when receiving multiple at-bats in a game, and I think at this point, I think he drives the ball better.
So yeah, if you held a gun to my head and forced me to write an AL lineup, I’d go with Hoffpauir. Though it’s probably 55-45 right now.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
look at it this way though regarding DH
we have a few platoon-ish situations, with guys like edmonds, johnson, fontenot who play alot but aren’t always starters. Of course it’s partly gonna depend on whether the opposing pitcher is a righty or lefty, but you have to think that (if the cubs play games w/ DH) those guys are gonna get consideration also. So its not really just ward or hoff for DH, its other guys too. I mean, if you’re talking lefty power in a late inning pinch hit, I’ll take Edmonds over either one if its a game Johnson started in center
by philadelphiacub on Sep 26, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Great point.
I hadn’t totally thought about that. And now that you raise the point, I can clearly see not having Hoffpauir DH when you could rotate several players through that spot.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I like Micah.
He may have a roll on this team next year, just like Ward was the last two years. But I don’t think it is anything above that – a bench/PH role. I think it’s easy to look at his awards this year in the minors and think he’s going to magically morph into more…but he’s what – 26 years old? – and I just don’t see it.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I haven't charted his at bats, but didn't
someone say The Hoff has a huge hole in his swing. If accurate, that would haunt him in a playoff series.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I'm not sure he has...
…a huge hole, I think its more driven around his timing. When he has poor AB’s he tends to get fooled on the slow stuff and is way out front. I haven’t seen a ton of his AB’s, but I haven’t see a specific location (hole) that seems glaring.
For your timing to be right, you need AB’s and to see a lot of pitches. This is why I don’t think he is best suited for a pinch hitting role.
From a pure mechanical standpoint, he has has an exceptionally good swing.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
And other Cub players and analysts have said Ward has the best swing
on the team….
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
he Ks too much
he’s not a good pinch hitter. His accomplishments are wonderful. That doesn’t make him right for the post season.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
+1 on beating the Brewers
They complained about us “cruisin” so I guess now is our chance to show em we’re not. It’s really nice to see how competetive we’ve been since clinching.
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Want to beat and eliminate the Brewers this weekend
and play the Mets in round one. That would work for me nicely.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Force them to have a 1-game playoff.
Burn their starters and bullpens. That’s what I’m looking for.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping we don't have to go to Houston and play that makeup game.
everything else can take care of itself.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Hasn't that happened yet?
I thought the Astros were eliminated. Am I wrong, again?
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
The # is 1 for them to be eliminated
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
1 more win from either the Brewers or Mets will prevent it
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by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
what's with the untucked uniforms
in Milwaukee? Slobs?
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Fat
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Fielder started it.
With him it’s a weight thing, Braun did it as he was rounding the bases. I guess it’s their “Cowboy Up!” thing.
No
its their celebration. you untuck your shirt when you get home from work.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I don't mind it so much
But doing it rounding 1st is stupid
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
My take: if you don’t wanna see it, don’t lose.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He's unbelievably irritating
but in essence its the same thing. Don’t want him to celebrate? Don’t lose.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
So was last night the final audition for Howry?
Pitching consecutive nights? Pitching after getting out of the jam the night before, in another tough situation?
He failed. So has Lou seen enough to make him a mop up man in the playoffs if he makes the roster at all?
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
I think Howry might make it just to be the voice of the 'pen
other than Cotts how many of the guys out in the ’pen have playoff experience pitching out of the bullpen?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Marmol
and I think that may be it, was Marshall in the pen last year?
Marquis was supposed to pitch from the pen last year but never made it into the game.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
True about Marmol
but his playoffs weren’t exactly the kind of memories I’d like a guy to really hang on to, ya know.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Wood has starting experience
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
True
but i said out of the ’pen.
And I only really say it b/c Lou’s into the experience factor.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
You also said pen out of the pen, which disqualifies Dempster. Still, though, I think they could give the others counsel – enough so where I wouldn’t carry Howry just for that. Lou, however . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
The only significant move Hendry
pulled that hasn’t panned out, has been Gaudin. In every way, JH gets my vote as GM of the year. As another poster mentioned, bad backs are difficult to overcome. For a pitcher, I can’t even imagine. Regardless, Chad’s effectiveness with us has been of a roller-coaster nature. In-person, he served up a HR in every appearance when I was at Wrigley. But, he can get the K’s sometimes, too.
I am concerned about Neal Cotts, the LH pitcher that cannot get LH hitters out. In fact, those of you who watched the game last night will note that BB mentioned the same thing on the air, during his appearance.
Grudgingly, I will have to admit that as a PH only, Ward would probably be a better choice. But the HOFF has outplayed him this year. HOFF will be the DWARD next year, i predict.
Note
Gaudin wasn’t a “move”, per se, as he more a throw-in with Harden. I think everyone was shocked to learn he was apart of that trade. I don’t think giving up on Gaudin is a good idea.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Agree. Plus Gaudin pitched well before his injury.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 26, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I knew he was
a “throw in” but Hendry/scouts certainly inquired about him and wanted him in the deal. Right? It was “part” of a move. Gaudin mostly pitched well during a short stretch in July, and early August. He was not a “shut-down” artist by any means. I am not giving up on him – just do not think he is ready for the Playoffs. It is truly unfortunate that we do not have better options!
After watching the Mets pen the last few days
I think we do have better options.
But, worry if you must.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
People need to remember that most of us (I won’t say all) don’t follow everybody as much as we do the Cubs. When we see errors they get magnified in our minds until you realize that even the best team has similar problems.
And you know what? We’re the best team. How do you think the Mets feel knowing that, if they even make the playoffs, the road to the WS may very well go through us?
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
What'd you think of the premiere last night??
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I really liked it.
Felt it was the strongest premiere since The Dundies.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I liked it a lot...
That goatee…Just kills me…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Dwight kicking the cake was awesome.
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by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
haha i forgot about that...oh man...
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Gaudin is valuable to this team. If he can find his location, and I think he will, he’s an asset this team needs.
My worry is that his back doesn’t allow him the flexibility to finish his pitches the way he was in July and August.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
It was a bruise wasn't it?
Nothing structural in his back?
Because it just seems like a combination of rust and an unfamilar catcher to me the last few day.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
And hopefully that's it.
I think it was a bruise, but if it’s a muscle bruise, those can take a while to stretch out.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
DeRosa Injury=Pie On Roster
If the Cubs did not have to concern themselves with DeRosa’s calf strain, I would say put Hoff on the postseason roster. DeRosa has played a lot of RF in the second half of the season. That calf strain will hurt his ability to play right field. I feel good about Pie defensively playing in any one of three outfield positions. Hoff just simply is a minus outfielder.
The Cubs could either have DeRosa not starting at all or playing second base in the division series with Dome in right. A late-inning defensive outfield of Johnson in LF, Pie in CF, and Dome in RF, would be great. I like DWard off the bench more than Hoff.
I like Hoff, but he would be a better fit with another team. He’ll never be a guy who will start 140+ games for the Cubs. I think he could start at first for a lesser team that needed a 1B.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
+1
that OF would be a blast to watch.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
you make sense Memphis Cub
want to meet me in Jackson to watch some post season? I’m in Dickson.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Like to Go To Diamond Jaxx Games
I usually catch about 5 Diamond Jaxx games a year at Pringles Park. Two of them are against the Tennessee Smokies. The Smokies will be in Jackson April 20-24 and September 3-7 next year. I think I’ll catch that Friday, April 24 game and one of those games on Labor Day weekend.
I saw Sammy Sosa hit a HR in an exhibition game in Jackson back in 2001, when the Jaxx were affiliated with the Cubs. I like the amphitheatre style seating at Pringles Park. It reminds of the stadiums at Ole Miss and Mississippi State. It’s too bad more people show up for college games at Ole Miss and State than for AA games in Jackson.
I don’t know yet when the Iowa Cubs are going to come to Nashville next season. I know that’s just up the road from Dickson. The I-Cubs are going to be way down in Memphis, April 30 – May 3 and May 29 – June 1.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
Rest vs. Rust
It sounds like Lou is going to play at least some of the Iowa roster the next few days. Since this team can get pretty streaky (both hot and cold), at what point should we be concerned about the regulars having decent momentum / timing going into the NLDS?
"What's the score?" "Nothing-nothing." "Who's winning?" "The Bears."
i would look for
one game off for each regular, then half games (2 ab’s) for the other two games. That way you can keep them fresh while still getting some reps in. I would definitely play the regulars at least some on Sunday, given the built in two (maybe more with the storms) off days.
Impressive...
…Hoff-power’s night was very impressive. Hitting 2 HR’s in Shea on a night with rain and heavy air like that just reinforces that this guy is indeed a good hitter with power.
What gets me and I think Lou, too is that Hoff has done no wrong. Offensively, he has shown that his AAA numbers are translating well into the bigs. I’m not sure how many defensive replacements we need. An outfield of Dome, Reed Johnson and Jim Edmonds or Mark Derosa is plenty capable.
I can’t write him off as a PH yet either. Anytime a sample size is small enough that 1 AB could change how you look at it, it’s pretty irrelavant. For instance 4 for 13 would be a .307 BA so we’d say that’s pretty good. You can’t make the same argument about a 5 for 5 night because if you change 1AB, he’ still 4 for 5 and that’s still pretty good. It might be good to let him PH the rest of the way and see what he does. If he can get a couple of hits, then bring him along.
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
the time is better than ever to trade him this offseason
he clearly doesn’t have a spot on this team
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
it would be nice
to have hoff’s power coming off the bench. ward is not having a good year so maybe have hoff on the roster for a late inning swing is a good idea.
Pie needs to be on the roster for his versitility. Dome is not hitting and his defense lately has not been that good. that throw last night was terrible and the other night he miss the cutoff man badly.
One thing that i really liked about Hoff, and maybe some of the other lefties could watch his AB (dome, pie) is how he stays in there against a left handed pitcher.
One question and I should know this. If Dero plays the first game of the series and cant go anymore can he be replaced for the rest of that series, or is it for the rest of the playoffs?
Let go cubs
Rosters Made Series By Series
If DeRo can’t go after the first game of the division series, he can’t be replace for the remainder of the division series. If the Cubs were to advance to the NLCS, then they could fill DeRosa’s roster spot with someone else.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
What are you talking about?
Dome’s throw was excellent. It was up the line because that’s where Hill set-up, and where the runner was going to be. It beat him by a mile.
Jimmyeatworld
-1
There is no way Dome was going to make a peg to the plate, saw Hill 5’ up the line, and thought, “I’d better heave this one 5’ to the right.” (Or Japanese translation)
McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket
by Goat Whisperer on Sep 26, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Still s/h had him.
McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket
by Goat Whisperer on Sep 26, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
-1
From where he was in the outfield, Dome could make a peg to the plate easily. Have you been watching his throws at all this season?
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
+1
Dome can throw the ball anywhere he wants in that situation. No translation needed.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Now that you mention it
I literally have never seen Dome throw a ball. Odd.
All of the Dragons spring trainings I attended, all of his games I went to in Japan, all of the games this season, I wouldn’t even know he has arms but for the fact I have seen him at the plate holding a bat.
I’m not sure who’s agreeing with whom here, but:
The throw was up the line
But it was good enough that the runner s/h/b out by 10 feet.
The throw wasn’t up the line because that’s where Hill was set up.
That’s all I was saying.
Domo.
McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket
by Goat Whisperer on Sep 26, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm confused then.
It looks like you’re disagreeing with Shanghai Badger, yet the two of you are essentially saying the same thing. Or am I missing something?
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Now I'M confused
Because I wasn’t part of that discussion
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
s'alright
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Pat said
it was a strike. Completely on target.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Start Hoff at First and Ward in Right in Milwaukee
We can then do stare and compare
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
How about we make them box?
Bare-knuckle, last man standing is the undisputed heavy-weight pinch-hitting champion of the Cubs!
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Not everything can be solved with violence!
That being said, let’s make this happen.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
I prefer mud wrestling
Ward has the size but Hoff has more agility
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
God
I really hope SWL doesn’t see this.
My eye may never fully recover.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't bait him, bad things happen.
Bad Things.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I think so... seriously
w have not played the Dodgers in a long time. We know and can beat the Mets
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
oops
i got it backwards… never mind… beat Milwaukee
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Right.
Destroy Mets in first round, then tough series with either Philli or LA.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
ah. disregard my reply then
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The Dodgers are the only team that really give me pause.
Not that I think we COULDN’T beat them… I’m just not sure they’re the team I’d want to see in a short series.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
The Dodgers have gotten fat on the NL West
and while they’re offensively better (who wouldn’t be with Manny), I think they’re paper tigers still.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I think part of it is
how long its been since the Cubs played them.
Although the idea of Lou v Torre is pretty exciting for the baseball fan in me. :-P
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
True.
And their pitching is good, but I think they’re a little like last year’s Cubs in that they’ll feel fortunate to make the playoffs, especially those young kids.
If the Cubs can put themselves in a situation where they don’t have to pitch to Manny, the offense can be shut down.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I agree with all of that.
But they still give me pause. Especially in a short series.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn short series.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Good point.
One man does not win a championship.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, love the Chinese reference!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
paper tigers does not get used enough
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
And remember, no matter where you go, there you are
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
yogi?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Yogi's cousin... Confucius
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Confucius say
Man who live in glass house should undress in basement.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
He who walks through airport turnstyle sideways . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
somewhere in Thailand?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
You are correct, madam
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
War does not determine who is right
War determines who is left
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
An alltime fave..
man who go to bed with itchy butt—wake up with smelly finger
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Elevator smells different
To a midget?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Badges?
we don’t need no stinking badges
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Wow, it fits twice in one thread
Excellent
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
He who go to bed alone with boner
wake up with sticky fingers
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
thats a little... blue... isn't it?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
blue?
that is the problem
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
LMAO
No sooner had I hit enter than I realized what I said. I ddn’t mean it like that.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
Man who walk around with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Wise man never play leapfrog with unicorn
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Wise man also
never fry bacon naked
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Very Wise Man does not place
Hoffpauir or Howry on playoff roster
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Man who fly upside down in
airplane have crack-up.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Woman laid in tomb may soon become mummy.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Frenchman Who Drink Too Much Beer
may soon become “wee monsieur”.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Man who run in front of car get tired.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Man trapped in pantry have ass in jam
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Man with one testicle also know
as Won Hang Lo.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Elevator smell different to midget.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Did that one already....
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
look at the spelling of piece
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't say "I don't understand"
Maybe he’s had an argument . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly. My wife's a morning person.
I’m guessing because 8 hours have passed where I haven’t said anyting.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
Ha.
No, really. I don’t get IT.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
well, keep looking
you’ll get more of the same (read: nothing) from me. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Feisty
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Man who screw woman on ground get peace on earth.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
man and woman who bowl togethe soon split.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
baseball wrong. Man with four balls not able to walk
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Ooops..
sorry tony…didn’t see yours..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
the oldest one of all time
Man who fart in church sit in own pew
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
I disagree
Always stay competitive. Plus, by conventional wisdom, if the Cubs get to the NLCS, they’re playing the Phils, anyway. Do you see the Brewers beating the Phils to play the Cubs in round 2?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Right.
And playing the Mets in the DS would be far more in our favor than the Dodgers.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Short series and a dominating pitcher.
It absolutely could happen.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
That dominating pitcher likely starts on Sunday
And even with short rest, wouldn’t be ready until game 2. MAYBE he’d have something in the tank for a game 5. Maybe.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that the Brewers couldn't win
I just think that the Phils would be more likely to. Hell, I’d rather they DID beat the Phillies if it came to that. The Cubs have hit Sabathia just fine.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
i hate the short series
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Me, too
Goes completely against the style of the rest of the season.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
i totally, totally hate the short series
this series should not be determined by 5 games…. anything can happen… a bad bounce, bad call… whatever… they need to make this series 7 games.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
I just wish there were an actual favoring of the number one seed
In football you get a bye, but that wouldn’t’ work in baseball where mojo matters. In basketball you get the lowest seed, which lessens the chance of a fluky win.
The idea that division teams can’t meet til the LCS is pretty ridiculous to me.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Another idea I would like to see is, the WC can only get 1 homegame in the DS. Have a 2-1-2 format as Sully suggested a couple of weeks ago.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I could go for that
but the owners would raise holy hell about it b/c of losing a potential gate. I don’t see it happening.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
They'd still get the gate
Aren’t postseason gates still shared?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh
Didn’t think about that.
Maybe it does have a shot then.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Still, probably not
It makes too much sense. Bud would never do it.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Logic has no place in Bud's MLB
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Technical balk on the usage of mojo
It does not mean “momentum”.
In Austin Powers, it meant special sexy super spy charisma, and a certain, “I don’t know what”.
In the blues, it means good luck charm, or more generally, good luck, or even a kind of good karma
Cubs may have mojo this season, but it’s not related to streaks and days off..
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Mojo fits what I meant
A bye week in baseball would kill any kind of buzz a team had. Ask the Rockies.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Someone stole their Mojo?
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
what are you talking about
he even bats lefty!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Like Hank Aaron apparently.
(right hand on top)
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
don't argue
with Hammerin’ Hank. :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Until your wrist shatters.
BTW, when we moved to Chicago in 94 my dad and I swear we saw Hank driving next to us.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
were his arms crossed on the steering wheel?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I still see it killing momentum, rather than luck, good vibes, or a certain je ne c'est quoi
I still think the Rockies killed their “Big Mo” rather than their mojo with the week off.
But I’m close to (or already) being overly persnickety about it, so never mind.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Its okay
I can handle persnickety. :-)
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
go back and look again
it was not a good throw from as close as he was, but its all a mattter of opinion, but hoestly i dont remeber where hill was set up so maybe your right
Let go cubs
please use the +reply button
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
TWHS
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Better call Ditka to "See Alice"
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
HoffPower vs Pie
Its the 9th inning of the final game of the playoffs Cubs down a run right handed pticher men on second and third…… pitcher due up…… Lou says lets see HoffPower not on the roster lets use Pie maybe he can steal first…….I know speed is important but Left Handed Power is hard to find……. Marquis or Harden can pinch run if Johnson, Front, Cedeno or whoever are not available ……I’m taking the Left Handed Power bat over “K” Jr.
by nimblenikelfoos on Sep 26, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions
Comma and Enter keys
Both are your friends
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's one
It’s the bottom of the ninth, 2 out, tied game, Ward in to pinch hit. He takes a walk on a 10 pitch at bat. Lou pinch runs Pie for Ward. Pie steals second. Soriano slaps a single into left field. Cubs win!!
That's the scenario I keep playing out.
Plus, in the original scenario, the Cubs would just need a base hit, and Ward knows how to work the count in his favor and increase his odds of success.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I agree...
I want to see Pie. The playoffs are always about pitching and defense, although I like Micah and think he could be a good DH, we already have Ward.
Lets do it Cubbies
After watching Howry Jr. and Howry last night, did anyone
have flashbacks of the wonderous gascan duo of Howry and Will Ohman from a few years back?
The overall impression I get when I see Ward pinch hitting is two words, and usually they’re “inning over”. I also seem to remember a rookie last year who came up with a clutch dinger in the NLDS. Give Hoff a go.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
OK, let's say the roster for the NLDS goes something like this:
Dempster, Zambrano, Harden, Lilly. (starters) -(4)
Gaudin, Marquis, Marshall, Cotts, Samardzija, Marmol, Wood. (bull pen) -(7)
Soriano, Theriot, Lee, Ramirez, Edmonds, Soto, DeRosa, Fukudome. (line-up) -(8)
Johnson, Ward, Cedeno, Fontenot, Pie, Blanco. (bench) -(6)
What do you think?
Jimmyeatworld
I think that's the only logical way to go
The only scary part is the 6-7 inning pitchers (Gaudin and Spellcheck, neither of whom can seem to get an out lately)
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks good to me
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Gaudin won't make the cut....
He hasn’t been good since the back injury. Not enough time to get healthy and/or shake off the rust. It will be Bob Howry guaranteed. Lou likes Howry and that’s what counts the most.
Hoffpauier will definitely get the nod. Bench defense and speed exists in the form of Johnson and Kosuke.
That's your opinion, which I can only guess is uninformed.
There is not a spot for Hoffpauir on the roster. He has no position, (and don’t tell me PH; because he isn’t one, and we have a PH already in Ward. Pie will make it over Hoff, simply because a post season roster needs versatility, not limits. Bench speed will exist in the form of Johnson & Pie. Dome will be the starting RF. If you think Lou is going to go with DeRo in RF, you’re foolish. It weakens the bench and the defense, while exposing DeRo & Fontenot. Not gonna happen.
Depending on Gaudin’s back, Howry might make the roster. It’s obvious he’s at the end of his career, and he might just be the tough leave-off for Lou/Hendry.
For someone who claims to know so much about baseball, you sure purport some ridiculous ideas. I seriously doubt your baseball acumen.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
it's gonna be fun seeing you eat your words
oh, wait. You never cop to an error or mistake.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll never cop to it
but at least it’ll be quiet when he goes into his “i was wrong so i’ll sulk and disappear” phase.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that's the exact roster we'll see Jimmy
hope DeRo is ok—and our pitching needs to shape up QUICKLY
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
As of right now...
…I think you nailed it.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Who do YOU want to make the playoffs, and why?
Mets
or
Brewers
I gotta go with the Mets. Their bullpen is a nightmare, and we just took 2 out 4 at their place with pretty much our “b” lineup and a terrible outing by Z.
Even though I anticipate Sabathia and Sheets arms will fall off if they get to the playoffs, the Brewers are a much better team than the Mets.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
Agreed for all those reasons
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Cubs?
Wait. They’re in?
Oh. Then, I’m not gonna get picky now. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Regardless disdain we may have for Howry he will make the roster
Lou likes Howry. And Howry does have the “appeal” of being a veteran to bring in during the middle innings. When the alternative is the rookie Jeff Sarmardzija or Neal Friggin Cotts? And Chad Gaudin either isn’t healthy or has lots of rust to work off. He won’t make the roster.
I don't have disdain for Howry.
Rather, I feel sorry for him, because he is obviously at the end of his career. I think Howry, as much as Lou likes him and the veteran presence he brings, will be the tough leave off for Lou/Hendry. Cotts is there simply because you need two lefties. Depending on Gaudin’s back, it might be Howry in place of him.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Is this a job reference or a vote of confidence?
Because Lou is eaither softening the blow of leaving him off the roster or else trying to salvage something here:
I like Bob. Bob is a no-excuse guy. He goes out there and pitches and does the best he can. I have all the respect in the world for him. He’s had some struggles, but nobody’s immune from them. I like his experience, too.
Although I never thought Lou would leave him off, that sounds like a farewell toast.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Sounds to me like a rationalization for keeping him
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope I am, too
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Read between the lines. We've got other pitchers to do his job.
They can’t afford to let Howry work it out in the post season. Howry knows this as well.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I did read between the lines
And it sounds like he’s padding Bob’s resume to me
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Helping him get a job next year
with someone else.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Sure, when taken at face value
But Howry had just blown it for the umpteenth time, and he wasn’t going to say “he’s fired”. I think it was part justification for keeping him around this long.
But I could just as easily be wishcasting or bored at work.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Sure sounds like softening the blow for a farewell. I think Howry may already sense it...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
You'd imagine he knows
even if he doesn’t ever really admit it.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Why does he say that no one is immune from struggles, then
Or like his experience?
In that case, say that “he’s contributed a lot to this team in the last 3 years”
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
He has contributed a lot in the last 3 years.
He obviously isn’t the same pitcher anymore though.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy, I don't think he should be on the roster
I’m not the one who was quoted. That’s just how I read Piniella’s statements.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't trying to come down on you Amigo.
I’ve got no quarrel with you Badgerman.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Understood -- no worries
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Besides, you're a Big Ten guy.
Much love to the Big Ten teams, and their fans.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
And you recommended good scotch
The Glenlivet is pretty damn smooth
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Aw. Look. They're BONDING!
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you into that?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
Only on days that end in y.
LOL.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Try MaCallan. Or Glen Morange.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Had the Macallan ...also good stuff
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Balvene? You try that yet?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Not yet
I’ll make a note of it
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
YES!
The MaCallan 18. You will never drink anything else.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Or better yet, the 25 yr. old MaCallan.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Macallan. 18 year old.
That’s all.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to try this one, but too rich for my blood.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
That's only about $300/bottle
I’d try a glass, anyway
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That's good stuff. I tasted it once.
Wish I could have afforded a whole bottle…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
here's to the hawkeyes
kicking off the big ten season with a northwestern BEAT DOWN!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
+1
Transplanted Hawkeye here
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm transplanted as well.
Grew up in the “State of Minds”, (Iowa), went west twice & came back to midwest- (Chicago/Burbs now) when parents started slowing down. They’re still in the great state- lifers.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
When I hear "he does the best he can"
I also hear (“and that’s not good enough”).
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I hope your interpretation is correct
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I got out of it
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Tea leaves are so soft and mushy once the cup is drained
Makes them really hard to read.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
i know it's wrong for me to hope howry does poorly
but i do, i admit it. my hopes for this team are much bigger than our regular season record at this point and i refuse to believe howry has any business on the post season roster. therefore it if means bob struggling in his final days leaves him off the roster, than so be it.
i know i’m gonna take heat for this, so bring it!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
How about this for an off the wall prediction
At some point during the playoffs Bob Howry will come in to pitch in a big situation, I’m thinking runners on nobody out. He then strikes out the side and becomes a Cub hero forever
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
I could live with that
I might even take back everything I ever said about him.
Course, only if I ever manage to wake up from fainting.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Careful...
LSD is a tightly controlled substance.
The Pirates had a guy who pitched on it, didn't they?
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Threw a no-hitter or a shut out, I can't remember which.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
theres an astros joke in there somewhere...
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Doc Ellis
no-hitter while on LSD.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought, it was a no-hitter.
Can you imagine that? I’ve tripped many times, (in the past), and I can’t imagine pitching a ML baseball game while tripping.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Jeez.
I couldn’t recall the name, but I saw him interviewed. He said half the time he couldn’t even see where he was throwing.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn
I should’ve been a pitcher.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Imagine the tracers...
It’s enough to make me feel a little woozy.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 26, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I haven't even had my morning beer yet
Who knows what delusional predictions I might have later.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
I saw a scene like this in a movie once
It was followed with the words “Dorothy, wake up!”
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Stranger things...
…have happened, and if it does, it is probably in an extra inning game.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
if he can be the Howry from the day before yesterday
as opposed to the Howry from yesterday, then fine.
Problem is, you can’t ever know which is which.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's hoping this pitching situation clears up this weekend.
It’s been crazy the past few days with NO ONE really stepping out and making the case to be on the roster as a ‘lock’. And that’s both relievers AND starters.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
Its the calm before the storm
They are all messing with us this week, making sure we panic just a bit more. Come playoff time they prolly won’t give up any runs.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Two points regarding Hoff's candidacy for a playoff roster spot...
1. We may need to use a DH in up to 4 games this postseason
2. The guy had a 4 hr game just a few weeks ago and won POTY or something. Yes, in the minors, but let’s not forget this was also Soto’s proving ground last year when everyone insisted his numbers were inflated and wouldn’t translate, etc.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Sep 26, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
But with Soto, the other options were slim and none.
Soto showed, power, average, defense and poise. Kendall showed a batting average and some defense (though not throwing anyone out).
The Cubs already have a proven, veteran pinch-hitter in Ward. Now, if the Cubs reach the World Series, I could see Hoffpauir on the roster.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one not really worried about the pitching?
I think most of us have been looking so close for flaws and stuff that now we’re SURE every hard hit ball is the beginning of the end.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
I agree with you
These guys will be fine, this week of meaningless games has given us time to think. Cub fans thinking usually turns into a mass panic about things going wrong (I’m guilty of this too).
We may mock the notion, but power pitching usually has success in the playoffs. We have a ton of power pitching, as long as somebody from another team doesn’t go Beckett on us, there is no reason we can’t win the NL and even the World Series.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Good
thought i was the only one. :-)
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
with the pressure off, the situation often becomes ‘throw the ball over the plate and let batters get themselves out’. The walks annoy me, but I think things will be ok once the focus is sharpened.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The walks have been weird and bothersome
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping
that the starters go deep into their games.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: this doesn't sound wise
I know Ozzie likes to fly off the handle, but mixing sleeping pills and vodka never worked for anyone:
I might take a sleeping pill," Guillen said Thursday night after the Sox had blown a five-run lead and lost 7-6 to Minnesota when Alexi Casilla hit a two-out single to score Nick Punto in the 10th inning.
“I will. [Also] a glass of vodka, because I know it’s not going to be easy to sleep. My guys have to be prepared. It’s not about me.”
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Wow Ozzie, another example of needing to think before you speak
For the record I still think the White Sox make the playoffs
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
I see a 1-game playoff in their future
and Freddy Garcia putting the final nail in the Sox coffin.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be quite ironic
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
He's with Detroit.
If the Sox are a .5 game up or down, they have to play Detroit on Monday, where Garcia will pitch. So it’s not a playoff, per se, but a 1-game makeup.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I had the pleasure
of watching the Sux implode last night. This very well could be a biased statement on my part, but Oswaldo Guillen represents a lot of the things that are wrong with our society: rage, pettiness, selfishness, lack of focus, disrespect towards everybody but himself, and self-aggrandization. The Sux’s call team isn’t much better either.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I think the Sox are done.
Minnesota gets to play KC at home… while the Sox get a hot Cleveland team (who has the best record in the AL Central the last 2 months), AND they have to face Cliff Lee.
And, even if the Sox are 1/2 game up after Sunday — they still have to play that make up game vs. the Tigers and THEN might have to play a tiebreaker with the Twins.
It says here that the Twins clinch on Saturday.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Agreed.
I don’t think there is anyway that Lee loses that game on Sunday, especially with the stuff that has gone on between him and the Sox lately…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wonder what it is about the Metrodome
I mean, i get it. Its loud… but it shouldn’t be impossible to win there.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Paging Dr. Crawdad....Dr. Crawdad please report to telemetry stat!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Just heard on ESPN
that Cliff Lee (back) will likely not pitch this weekend against the Sox. Nevertheless, they still have to win, a task that appears rather difficult for them lately.
Irreverence is irrelevant's revenge.
Dean Young
by Herr Pfannkuchen on Sep 26, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
What's the problem? Works for me every night.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Ozzie, Courtney Love called.
She wants her coping strategies back.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
I didn't hear about the loss
till about 40 minutes ago.
THAT ROCKS!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
did i hear someone say lilly might start game 2?
huge huge huge mistake if that happens
z and harden have to go in games 2 and 3
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Why is it a mistake?
Be specific.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yeah, I'd like to hear this one.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Harden in Game 2
Just because the bullpen could get a workout- and there is a travel day between 2 and 3
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Harden should pitch a night game
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Are there any other accomodations we have to make for
Harden? Special baseballs? Wind directions? No red M&M’s in his dressing room?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Choosing to use your guy in the spot that best suits him.
What a concept. No, but let’s ignore all that and show him who’s boss.
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm all for giving the guy the best chance to succeed, but let's
not make a diva out of him.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I just said he should pitch a night game.
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't aiming the comment at you. It was a joke based on two
consecutive posts regarding making accomodation for him. It wasn’t a serious stab at you. People do make jokes on this blog. Let’s lighten it up a bit. Laugh.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You're crazy
If you say that, then you don’t believe in the lefties/righties matchup mentality.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Game 3 & 4
will probably be a day game since it is on a weekend- Also absolutely no Red M&Ms-
I did read an article that he uses a special A’s colored device to warm up with…
Does he like night games because its cooler so the ball doesnt carry as much?
What’s his preference based on
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I am in favor of playing matchups
But none of our possible round one opponents have poor records vs lefties.
PHI 59-48 vs Right 30-22 vs Left
NYM 54-51 vs Right 34-20 vs Left
MIL 55-52 vs Right 33-19 vs Left
LAD 52-55 vs Right 31-21 vs Left
I’m not sure you want to statr a lefty against any of these guys.
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Sep 26, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly is not an ace
He’s been great lately, but he’s not on the same level as Z or Harden. But let’s say Johan (for example) out-duels Dempster in game 1. I would feel much better about sending out Z or Harden to even up the series, than Lilly. Going down 0-2 in a five game series can’t happen.
Now as I type that out, I realized I was thinking about it as if we were in a 0-1 hole. If we go into game 2 1-0, then I would feel a little better about Lilly, but not enough to start him over Harden or Z.
You don’t wait to get your aces out there, 5 game series are too short. Waiting to start Harden and Z reminds me of the same mentality that Lou had when he pulled Z last year during NLDS.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Lou Defense
I think Lou saw that Webby was killing us in game 1 and we were about to get to their bullpen so he didn’t want to make Z pitch a complete game only to lose 1-2
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you really believe that?
That’s an honest question because I’ve never heard that before. I think Lou believe he wanted to save Z for game 4.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Yep
I’m just expanding on Lou’s probable train of thought…
Webb was dealing and the D-bags bullpen was lights out all year.. so he wanted to save Z in case we needed him in another game.
Same stuff-different words
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
But that cannot happen in a 5 game series if you ask me. You have to take every game, every inning one at a time. They are way too short to think otherwise.
Win each game, at all costs.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Moreover
Think about it like this, say the unthinkable happened and we got swept again.
How would you feel if Z or Harden NEVER got a single start in the playoffs?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm with you on this
I think Lilly might not get a start in the NLDS based on the opponents vs LHP
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He also may not get a start
based upon three pitchers on the roster being better than him. IMO
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I don't know,
Lilly has been pitching well in his last few starts. While Lilly got off to a bad start, he has been pretty consistent the rest of the year.
Z has been very inconsistent all year and downright bad in his last start. While, he had a brillant game (no-hitter) you literally have no idea what you’re going to get when he goes to the mound.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Sep 26, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Look, you may be right.
I just remember for most of Lilly’s starts, he is prone to the bad inning. He did it on Saturday. I was there and saw it. Consistent doesn’t mean great and with Z you can get great.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
This Recalls the Rotation in the 84 NLCS
Jim Frey went with Scott Sanderson for Game 4 instead of Rick Sutcliffe, which had some heads scratching (Bowa, Dernier). Critics said that Frey messed up by not going for the jugular and snuffing out the Padres before they had a chance to tie the series at 2-2, while Frey defended himself by saying he wanted to save his best starter for the “emergency” scenario of a Game Five and take no chances in that type of “winner-take-all” scenario.
I guess Frey thought fate would determine the winner of Game Four and therefore excused himself from having a say either way in the matter.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Koyie Hill=shite
Would rather trust a 7-year-old girl to make plays behind the plate.
that's why he's not making the post season roster
so why worry about it
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
This is way too harsh.
Hill provided a lot of stability last season after the Barrett trade. The fact that he can’t hit at the major league level is well-established but, as backup catchers go, he doesn’t deserve a comment like this. And, as cubswynn pointed out, he won’t be on the postseason roster anyway.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Think this was a drive-by
I’ve never seen that guy before.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I've seen him before on game threads...
…and his comments tend to fall toward the haterish. Just wanted to offer a contrasting opinion.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Belive you later?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What is "to belive?"
Is that like to belittle?
It is a typo
Believe.
Was going to put a picture of Hans and Franz with it, but figured the sites I found them on in Google wouldn’t get thru the firewall.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Would you like to pet my monkey?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, now is the time on Sprokets when we dance
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Vas is der grosser hund?
die Doberman
die Rottweiler
die Deutshche Sheppard?
answer: mine ex frau
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
he's been around before.
tends towards the negative.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad
Sorry, lamentir.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I expect a backup catcher
To make a tag anyone else could when he has almost a full second before the runner gets there.
give him a break
his fingers got cut off last year
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it was a pretty ugly play...
…but the field was wet and Church did a pretty good job of dodging him. I guess I’d probably be more upset if the game had meant something.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
It did mean something
To the Mets, Brewers, Phillies and Astros. Play to win, as Tyrone Biggums says.
True, but what are you saying?
Koyie was trying to lose?
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
Uh, yeah, I was referring to my own response to the play.
Considering Koyie Hill is, theoretically at least, auditioning for further major league playing time at some point in the future, the game certainly meant a lot to him.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
I thought we didn't discuss politics on this site.
I don’t care what religion he is.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Fail
Shiite (the muslim denomination) has two I’s.
But nice try.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought it had two "i"s
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, BOTH the Mets and Brewers need to win 1 game to eliminate the Astros
Since the Mets and Brewers are both still in the wild card picture, they BOTH need to win a game this weekend, for the Astros to be eliminated. As an example, at the beginning of the day yesterday, the Astros elimination # was 2; both the Mets (despite Hoffpauir’s valiant efforts) and Brewers won, and now the Astros elimination # is 1.
That's not right
If one of them wins one game, they eliminate the Astros.
The other team doesn’t yet, but the other team is no longer in 1st for the WC then. The Astros would be eliminated from catching one of the two teams. Since there is only one WC, that would do it.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
MLB.com sez
A Mets or Brewers win or an Astros loss will eliminate Houston from National League Wild Card contention.
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
You are correct, sir
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
just backing you up
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, I knew that.
Just wanted to invoke Ed MacMahon
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I love it!
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
and now
JEBUS HART REALLY SUCKS
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
shocking
we didn’t pitch well in a game we lost.
wow. thanks mr. news flash.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
No, but the Milwaukee broadcast probably did
The Mil. Journal Sentinell has a “3-up, 3-down” bit in the sports page. They had the Cubs as one of the 3 down for printing World Series tickets. Called it a waste of trees and presumtive.
I hope that finds it’s way to the Cubs clubhouse. I realize that the team had nothing to do with it, but still. Shove it up their arses.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
My family still has our World Series tickets from '98 as well as '03...
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
See? They weren't wasted.
Oops
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Haha.
I think it is standard practice for any team that makes the postseason though, as least for season ticket holders…
It is only a big deal in the media because it is the Cubs. If the Red Sox do it, it probably is not news…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
What is up w/ Milwaukee and its inferiority complex?
They sound like a bunch of bitchy little girls.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
It's fanbase envy
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW: bitchy little girls
is one of my favorite lines from Burn Notice. :-P
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I admit my man crush on Jeffrey Donovan and Bruce freakin’ Campbell
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Sep 26, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Bruce Campbell rocks..
Long live Brisco County Jr.!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Was the first thing I thought of when I read that
But didn’t know/remember if you watched the show.
How do you feel about yogurt?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Love it
only if it has fruit in it. Plain is nasty.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think every team does this.
Maybe Milwaukee didn’t, but given the Cubs’ reach and amount of ticket-holders, can you imagine the chaos if the Cubs printed tickets for each round and tried to send them between series?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Every team does do this
It was a weak attempt at humor. Only by one writer, not the whole paper.
Still, beat them! Beat them, I say!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I want a 1-game playoff between the Mets and Brewers
let’s make sure neither one has a rotation ready for the playoffs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Think if it goes 15 innings
they’ll make someone other than CC pitch?
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Since CC will probably throw Sunday
in a 1-game playoff, on no days’ rest? He’ll get at least 3 innings, I’d bet..
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
sadly no
they interviewed Beltran and how the Mets had only won 1 game where they trailed by 3 runs all year, until last night and the wonder H twins stunk it up.
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
just venting my disgust
with the H boys and their suckitude
Sarcasm, just one of my many talents
by VegasCubFan on Sep 26, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Has the DeRo injury been discussed?
I’m starting to think its more serious than originally thought. In a boot and out for the regular season.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #5 4-0 (0-0). Next up at Nebraska October 4th. Live on ESPN in primetime. Chase Daniel and Jeremy Maclin for Co-Heisman!
Aren't you the bearer of good news.
I don’t think it’s a big deal. The guy’s have a career year, plays every position but third base coach, and is crucial for this team’s success. Five days off, plus Monday and Tuesday, gives him a full week to recover. I’m not worried, and Mark didn’t make it out to be a big deal a few days ago.
Then again, what the hell do I know?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
He could coach third in a pinch
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
he could coach third
while batting.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a friend
telling me games 1 and 2 are set for 1:00 central time start, that is still undecided, correct?
Lets do it Cubbies
Uh...
…there are three games to be played on Wednesday, and three on Thursday, too. MLB doesn’t have any official times yet, however.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp
Dan
PS – Playoff scheduling sucks, just like regular season scheduling sucks. F-you, Selig.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Not funny.
This is why I’m rooting for the Mets to with the WC. I want some prime time TV.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I really can't see
TBS wanting a CHI-LA or CHI-NY game being played when everyone is at work- Two big TV markets.
I am about 80% positive a CHI-NY game would be played at the 5-530 slot and a CHI-LA game in the 8pm slot (CT)
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Assuming the Cubs are the #1 Draw for TBS
I can see why they’d want to put the Cubs on in the afternoon since we’ll all watch and it doesn’t matter what time it’s on (reference Lee Elia’s 15%) and the other series can play in primetime where most every baseball fan will tune in because it’s the playoffs. Playing the 2nd tier draw during the day will mean substantially reduced possible daytime ratings vs. showing the Cubs.
That being said, 5pm would work out great for me if they’re listening.
I think a casual fan
is more likely to watch a Cubs matchup in primetime over a Sex and the City Rerun or sportscenter… but I see your point
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I need a 9th inning strategy check-up here
Top of the ninth last night, LBR leads off with a single, and eventually takes second base on a wild pitch. There are no outs, and McGehee at the plate. WHY isn’t he bunting Fontenot to third? Normally, I hate the bunt – but why wouldn’t you move your baserunner to 3rd with no one out (in a tied road game)? Len and Bob didn’t say anything about it, and noone here mentioned it either, so I must be thinking the wrong way on this?
"I have not failed. I have merely identified seven hundred twenty three ideas that didn't work"
Prob because at this stage of the season
it might be seen as more valuable to let McGehee get his hacks then bunt Fonty over…Especially since anything behind Fontenot moves him over…Just my immediate thought…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He attempted to bunt twice.
then he struck out.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That was before the wild pitch.
The idea was to get him on second and then a hit most likely scores him anyway. Also, McGehee has mostly hit 3rd or cleanup all year and has not bunted much.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 26, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
right, but why would you continue
attempting to bunt with 2 strikes (which they didn’t). I was just trying to explain to the original post why McGehee wasn’t bunting in that situation, because he already had 2 strikes on him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 26, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, I see now..
My bad…and I agree, you wouldn’t have him bunting there with two stikes, although one of the Mets, (Murphy I think) did try that earlier, and struck out. I can see it if it was pitcher, but not a position player.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Murphy did and struck out
since McGehee doesn’t bunt often, it was odd to see him bunting in the first place. I think the second foul bunt he had was on a pitch that if he had pulled the bat back would have hit him. But oh well.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
he was bunting.
LBR got to second base after McGeehee bunted two balls foul.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yea just saw it on BP
wow suppan has been bad lately. I say we put 6-8 up on the board in the first 5 innings and give Demp W # 18
by philadelphiacub on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i don’t think you’ll get many complaints about that.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers rotation this weekend:
Suppan, Sheets, Sabathia.
Though if Sheets can’t go (probable), Bush is throwing on 3-days rest and we all know that CC is throwing on 3-days rest for the 3rd straight game on Sunday.
If the Brewers manage to make a 1-game playoff or the NLCS, their starting pitching will be worn thin.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Around here (Milwaukee) last night the news was reporting
that it would take a miracle for Sheets to pitch tomorrow. Apparently he could only throw 20 pitches in his BP session.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
that's about what I figured.
I think even Sveum said a few days ago it would take a ‘minor miracle’ for Sheets to pitch.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I hope the Cubs knock the Brewers out of contention...
People here have been GUSHING over the last 3 games and yes, I know, the games were exciting but it was against the Pirates for cryin’ out loud. Then you have to hear the talk about Gallardo and what a nice comeback game he pitched, etc….
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
That doesn't bother me
We’d be doing the same.
I hope they knock them out because I still think the Brewers could be dangerous if they found a way to get to the NLCS.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It bothers me that it was the same people who jumped off their bus weeks ago.
I think so too and they usually play the Cubs well at Wrigley.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Remember, this isn't a baseball town . . . .
Hey, we should grab lunch sometime. Shoulda thought of that when they had early games.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
True. Although I would think the Pack will be second fiddle this Sunday?
I think the fact that they choked it away last year didn’t help.
Yeah. That would be cool…
Let’s try to figure something out for the playoffs.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I still think the Pack will get most of the attention Sunday
You can drop me a note at b_badger_23@yahoo.com. I don’t check that one every day, though.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool.
I’ll make sure I write a few days in advance to figure out details.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Well, any team is dangerous...
…but the Brewers are a lot less so without a healthy Ben Sheets.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
I want a 1-game playoff versus NY.
Santana vs. Gallardo. All hands on deck, taxing both teams before one of them staggers into the playoffs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
If the Mets don't have a spot locked up
Santana might pitch on Sunday
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
that's right.
So then it’s Gallardo vs. Perez. And that will be a bullpen game. And neither Sabbathia nor Santana would be ready for Game 1 (or even Game 2 perhaps)
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Manuel already said he will pitch if they haven't clinched.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
possible 3 way tie with Phila, Brew, Mets
Now that would be even better :-)
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Lasting about 20 innings to blow out their bullpens.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The SI article guy is on XM radio right now...
said Wrigley Field is the theater of the absurd
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
Dibble & Kennedy = Theater of the Absurd
also the Theater of the Self Aggrandizing.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
I hate those guys
Did you know one of them managed in the majors and went to the WS?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?? No Way!!
Must’ve missed it while Kennedy was going on ad nauseum about his days in the Orioles farm system, the Dodgers’ minor league development system, his stint as Expos’ scouting director, Rangers’ manager…..
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Gary Smith; sorry i forgot his name
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No Worries, Just Used the Opp'ty To B*tch About Dibs and The 'Stache
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Those guys are excruciating to listen to
But this is a great interview with Gary Smith; he’s very good
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Cancelled My XM Last Year
because MLB Home Plate left me cold. Can’t remember Gary Smith but I’ll take your word that he’s good. Buck Martinez, Mark Patrick, Dibs, Kennedy….eeesh.
That said I might reactivate it so I can listen to our Pat ‘n’ Ron calling the action on the drive home from work.
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Gary Smith is the SI guy who wrote the cover story on the Cubs this week
He’s way too good to be on XM
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Highly unlikely
They only do Sunday nights during the regular season
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
And Erin Andrews would be icing on the cake.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Hate to disappoint you Bump but I think she's doing college football
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Those of us in the Milwaukee market
Can see Trenni Kushinerek. No Erin Andrews, but still….
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Does she wear tight sweaters?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but they look better on Erin
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Erin was on a college game maybe last night (USC OS?)
and the stupid director didn’t even include her in the interview shots at the end of the game. She was cut off on the side of the screen. Maybe it was Sarah Palin.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez, Why Couldn't Sarah Palin Have Been a Sports Announcer?
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
She is
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeahs.
Not really, but she plays one on TV.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
right now
she is a punching bag
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Confuscious says
Man (woman) who step into ring likely to catch one in jaw
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
She's on the Big Ten Network?
Cute!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Trenni?
No, Brewers TV
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure who I'm thinking of now...
The one I’m thinking of was on the BTN last year. Cute blonde.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Was she the sideline reporter during the Big Ten Tournament?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
That might have been it.
Was that Trenni?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Another lady - Elizabeth Moreau, I think.
Trenni does some work for the Big Ten Network, so you could have seen her, too.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
The one who interviewed Braun after his walk-off
The blonde?
She was pretty.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
You sexist pig.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So?
And one of the coolest things I’ve seen all day was this.
I’m not a big Ryan Braun fan… but I’d hit that. (lol)
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You know he would stare at you...
…with his giant freak eyes while you were doing it, right?
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
ewwwww
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
And that my dear, is where being the blind girl pays off
finally.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
ewwwww
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Saves using a bag over his head.
How green of you.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's not easy for her
Being green, that is
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The why would you care how he looked in the first place?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Methinks she's a "tactile" person
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
How long will it be...
before MLB ends that “celebration” with a new “on field uniform policy and fine” ?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
When Fielder starts
signing homerun balls.
make*art
by neverAcquiesce on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I get what you mean
but I didn’t know the female could “hit it”. Don’t you need something to hit it with? I could see a female saying, “I’d let him hit it”, but not the other way around. Unless you know something about Mr. Braun we dont know about.
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Eh
getting all technical now. “I’d hit that” is way more fun to say.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, I get you
Objection Withdrawn
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Speaking of hitting it
Have you seen Sori’s new girltoy? Personally, I think he could do better but I figure as long as it doesn’t affect his hitting ON, it doesn’t both me. His wife, now that’s another story.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Eh
I could really not care less.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong
I refuse to stir anything up. But my friend knows Keri (the girl in question) and told me that it hit the web last week, so I checked it out and sure enough….LINKAGE
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Yeah
looks pretty authentic.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
As someone who
(admittedly) frequents the nite scene, none of this surprises me though. It’s seems like SOP for most athletes if you ask me, so I could care less. They’re in a whole other world.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Seriously.
I saw Tyrus Thomas and Thabo out like 2 weekends ago, and they were with no less than 20 girls…It was obscene. Different world for sure. I like to watch it though :) And do the occasional shot with them.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely
My cousin is Dir. of Mkt & Op for a few clubs in the Gold Coast and he said when athletes ask for a private room they usually also request that no cameras be allowed. I think this is a good example why. Although it doesn’t look like Sori’s too camera shy. It amazes me though how often people put up unflattering or possibly incriminating photos of themselves only to have them put on full display for everyone else to see.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Amen.
That girl’s pics are all over Facebook- anyone who is in the Chicago network can look at her profile (acc. to the article…) In this day and age, there are so many risks, and the privacy stuff you mentioned makes PERFECT sense…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that is astounding to me as well
Especially on things like Facebook where your whole name is out there, you can’t even hide behind a persona.
Ah. My generation. I’m so proud!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta picture?
And am I to understand that Alfonso openly consorts with a woman who is not his wife?
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it was on deadspin
it caused a kerfluffle earlier this week.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
She's not too bad. I wouldn't kick
her out of bed for eating crackers.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
On deadspin
and on facebook….
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Here....
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Although
there are a bunch of athletes in her pictures, as far as I could tell…Francisco Cordero and a bunch of Chicago guys from the Bulls…So who knows what the real story is…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm certainly not surprised...
…or particularly outraged by any of it.
The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions
Holy Crap
some of the comments at the bottom there have me cracking up…
“…because I’M AN EXPENSIVE BITCH!”
Apparently she’ll take the shirt right off your back.
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Yeah...she seems...
REALLY SMART. Like, SMRT smart.
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this one:
Oak Bank has one (1) location…looks like she’s gonna be just a hostess after this financial crisis. Or just a ho.
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lol
This one is actually true:
Proving once again that Soriano is terrible at playing the field.
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Or this gem
C’mon, Alf — just because you can swing at anything and hit it doesn’t mean that you should!
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
thats golden
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a Braun fan but...
when he lifted his shirt last night, my thought was “please show that again”
by madeindetroit on Sep 26, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Or should I make that +2 for Gail? :)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Did you ever figure out if she really is preggers?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I don't get CSN anymore....
Maybe Sue knows.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I think you're right Maddy.
But one can hope..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Whew.
Miller’s not so bad, I respect him using proper pronunciation of names and all (even though it can get a little annoying), but Joe Morgan thinks he’s better than everyone and treats Miller like a jerk. IMO.
Don't you know
Morgan is the only second baseman deserving of HOF status.
/sarcasm
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh sorry,
I must have forgotten. LOL What really sucks is with satellite transmissions now, you can’t mute the TV and listen to Pat and Ron on the radio. The audio and video don’t sync up.
I'm considering trying
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
WGN was giving them away for a while
Some people here have them, I think.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm having a hard time finding them in stock at the moment...
Let me know if you find one!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
actually they talked about them quite a few times this summer.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 26, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
and all-time HR records
Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....
by Andre Fonseca on Sep 26, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe Morgan is the most arrogant SOB who had ever been an announcer...
He’s still pissed Ryno came back and beat his HR record for a 2B. What a little person. I had some respect for him (as an aspiring second baseman) when he played but he has proven to be zero as a human being.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Eww.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryne Sandberg just called...
…and said he’s firing you as his attorney.
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THIS JUST IN--25 roster spot has been named
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
"X" marks the (roster) spot?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Its Chuck Norris
but I don’t really get it.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really get it either.
Why would the Cubs need Chuck Norris when they have Ted Lilly?
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Ted Lilly vs. Chuck Norris would be bad. In fact, to borrow a Superfans response:
“The senseless waste of pitting these two mighty forces of nature against each other, like matter vs. anti-matter, will be a tragedy, not only for the teams involved but for our planet. All nations must band together, to ensure that such a conflageration never takes place.”
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I wasn't able to follow the game last night
Can anyone update me on Harden’s performance. I saw the line 6IP, 97 pitches, 5BB, 4 K. What was his velo like? Did he seem to have trouble with location like he did the previous start or 2? Any feedback would be appreciated
by philadelphiacub on Sep 26, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
Location was a bit off most of the night.
Len and Bob were speculating that he wasn’t going full bore because he didn’t want the Mets to get a good scouting report on him should they see him again.
Velocity was 89-92 most of the night, IIRC.
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'preciate it
I read through the play-by-play. Do you think he comes back out for the 7th in a playoff scenario? I assume so, but then again I didn’t see the game so I don’t know if he looked “done”. The (lack of) depth into the games that Harden has pitched is really my only concern about him going into the playoffs. Its nice to know that a “bad” outing is 2 R in 5 or 6 inn. on 2 hits and 4-5BB
by philadelphiacub on Sep 26, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
In the playoffs, probably.
Also depends on when his next start would be, more than likely. He’s only gone over 100 pitches 1-2 times with the Cubs.
Also depends on who is coming up that inning and who is available in the pen. A fresh Marmol in the 7th to face Wright, Delgado, Beltran might be better.
My biggest concern is that Rich hasn’t looked sharp (location wise) with the extended rest he’s been getting.
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Need... overflow... thread... can't... ...
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
LETS WOOP THE CRAP OUT OF THE BREWERS TONIGHT!!!!!!
Lets knock the evilBCB viewers back in their seats leaving them the only option to write fanposts on why Cubs fans suck…They wont have anything else to do so it will be funny to watch/read
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 26, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions
You're mean.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
how would this be different
from any other day?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Jealousy sets in from Cubicle 102.....
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
"drunk already" implies he sobered up from Thristy Thursday
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Too broke these days to drink like I did when I first turned 21
Well I was just as broke then I guess…. just didnt care
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 26, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He does attend IU...
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Which IU?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
the only IU.
Indiana University.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
OK, then.
That’s what I hoped you’d say.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
who else would I go with? : )
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
There are other universities who have the same intitials but only one IU.
My sister is the registrar there and my wife got her PhD there. I never went there but if I had to do it over that’s where I would have gone. Plus Bloomington is such a cosmopolitan town; sort of like San Francisco or New York.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh Bloomington.
I like the town and have friends that live there. Have never heard it referred to as a cosmopolitan town.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
I was just being sarcastic about the cosmopolitan part
I love the town but it’s not cosmopolitan
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Was thinking there was some cutter vs.student humor forthcoming.
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There should have been
but I have lost too many brain cells since that movie to remember any of it.
When I met my wife we did see that movie on HBO the first night while at my sister’s apartment in Bloomington. Was fate.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Great movie.
The dad just about stole every scene he was in.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
True
I grew up in the state and my wife went there. So we’re down there a few times a year for football and basketball games.
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no I just got in an argument with a brewers fan in class
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 26, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
hmph......Southsiders
hahaha always thinking about fighting…. jk Go Cubs, beat the Brewers.
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Saturday nite's alright for fighting
Oh, wait, it’s just Friday.
Go Cubs.
Reggie Jackson is an arrogant SOB. Why isn’t he an announcer on ESPN?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
he still retains
a level of self-respect?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly,
I don’t dislike him, but he sure is full of his Mr. October persona. He would be better than Joe Morgan though.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It would take a lot to be worse.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
What would be worse than Joe Morgan?
the devil?
does it make you mad enough to “kill”, Kyle?
Yes, it’s true, this man has no dick.
Well when can you tell? I don’t know, not for an hour or so.
Stop calling me Shirley.
It could be worse.
Want to see it again?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
what movie are you quoting?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
every movie
South Park (the tv show)
Ghostbusters
Airplane
Airplane
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
never mind
i’m off in my own world now
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
So the Shirley stuff came from Airplane?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yesso
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to go get donuts for breakfast for my daughter and her little friends
who are spending the night.
I will try to watch the game tonight.
If I fall asleep instead you will all have to endure the game without my ascerbic wit to make it bearable.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I might chime in w/a smartass comment or two
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking forward to it
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You?
Never.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Whats that saying
better smartass then dumbass?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I tell Mom.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
"Oh boys--lookie what we got over heah!"
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Funny stuff
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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
its true... its actually why the southside bothers me
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 26, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed Johnson is gonna be on Jim Rome's TV show
Like… right now.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
Ah, Jim Rome
Self absorbed jerk.
Let us know what Reed says.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
and stop calling me Chris Evert.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
hahahahahahah
that is SOOOO funny…
"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 26, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
that was the best; he kicked his ass
I taught Jim Everett in college
not football; english
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Jim Rome burned
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 26, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed:
“How cool is this thing gonna be when we get it done?”
“Guys had more hunger from backing into play offs last year”
“It is something you should celebrate, you went through 150 games to get there. Celebrate accomplishing your first goal”
“You come to Wrigley and they don’t let you take a play off”
“You have to keep the atitude you ca play every day to come off the bench. Be prepared to help your team win. Treat a PH like you’re leading off its all just preperation”.
“Cal State- Fullerton helped him w/ the ‘get after it’.”
Jim Rome: Your catch at the Nats was the best catch of the year.
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess I should have been more specific
Unless it was actually a monologue.
Just kidding. ;-) thanks for posting
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a short interview.
Nothing earth shattering, but at least it sounded like Reed was grounded and that Rome might’ve actually watched more than 2 secs of a Cubs game. He could give some tips to a certain play-by-play guy for “The Leader”
There's magic in the ivy...
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 26, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Pre Game
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/26/622577/let-s-send-the-brewers-hom#comments
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