First Pitch Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Saturday 9/27, 2:55 CT
by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Let's go JV Cubs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
lol!
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
the Brewers are countering with Rickie Weeks
so I guess it balances out.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Rickie Weeks doesn't hit poorly for a second baseman.
This would matter more if he was able to adequately field his position.
I know. I misplaced the sarcasm button somewhere along the way.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
A .745 OPS is OK for a 2B???
Not trying to be a smart-ass, just asking….
DeRo’s .791 last year wasn’t good enough for Lou; he wanted TNO. And, I think I can safely say, DeRo has a much better glove than Weeks.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
ha.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Getting ready for their long winter's nap
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My Fox affiliate had the Red Sox-Yanks game scheduled
But there in a rain delay…and I get the Cubs game instead!!!
Ditto...
…and I’ll be ticked off if they switch back to it if the rain lets up.
by sniffy the bee on Sep 27, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
who are the announcers?
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
and isn't this the game Sue's attending?
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I think so
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
dang no Geo or Lee
she was going to get us Geo pics and one for me of Lee tying his shoes :-(
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Yea that sucks!
I didnt get to see Soto last week either. Not fair!
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
they should give us refunds if
we go to the park and there’s no Geo
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Absolutely!
If there is a petition started this week, it should be 40k strong by spring trainging to present to the organization.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Lewin and Grace.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
thanks
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Lewin had the call last weekend too.
So maybe that karma will carry over.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
they're pitiful
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
well well well.... DWard!!!!
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
And Daryle Ward makes his case for the postseason roster
2-run HR. 2-0 Cubs
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yep
this argument if there was one is settled
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The debate was between...
Ward vs. Hoffpauir, right?
by sniffy the bee on Sep 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know - does he need 4 more hits and another homer to answer Hoffpauir?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I think that Ward would beat Hoffpauir in a 60 yd. dash....
…not that either of them would be faster than my grandmother.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Sheets obviously isn't 100%...
…but it looks like he isn’t out there just throwing the ball and praying, either.
How was the pitch he threw to DWard?
Mistake or not?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Don't know.
Can’t rewind it right now – wasn’t looking at where the catcher was set up at the time. But he wasn’t simply throwing BP out there, he was actually pitcing.
89-mph fastball
belt high, down the chute. probably wanted it up more than it was.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Thanks, I think Sheets will be fine then
just would not extend him in this game.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Looks like Sheets has a heating blanket on his elbow and arm right now
don’t know if that’s standard for him or not
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
probably so for him.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I won't pretend to know Sheets' between inning regimen
but it looked curious to me. I think he’s trying to keep the arm and elbow loose.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
yeah I agree, esp. since it is warm
today in Milwaukee.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
that's what got me thinking.
it’s not cold up there – looks like a great day.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I unfortunately have to watch the Nats-Phils on my Fox affiliate...
Time to look for some other way besides MLB.TV to see the game….
PS: I admit it, Ward is a better choice than Hoff :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Okay, I want to know why Sharp thinks that a baseball fan...
…will buy a TV on advice of a university professor.
you mean that weird albino guy they CLAIM is an astrophysics professor? (I don't know the guy)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
So Milwaukee can't clinch
leading to the dilemma: start CC tomorrow or hold him back for a possible 1-game playoff on Monday?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
i think Lewin mentioned that Ward was a late addition to the lineup
so maybe they had to scrap Theriot or whomever reading the lineup.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Indeed
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Why isn't he batting 8th? :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Why isn't he batting lead-off? He's a better hitter than the guy who is there...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
LOL
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
College football upset
Mississippi 31, No. 4 Florida 30
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
final.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Haha I watched the ending of that
Blocked punt lost it for them
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 27, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Florida missed a PAT that would have tied it
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yeah thats what I meant
Dunno what I was thinking
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
no worries.
then Tebow got stuffed on a 4th and 1 that would have given them a chance at getting in field goal range
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I laughed at the commentator
when he said “I DONT KNOW THE SECOND EFFORT MIGHT HAVE GOT IT” and he was like a whole yard from the yellow line
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, it was woefully short
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Early College Football Top 25 finals
Ole Miss 31, No. 4 Florida 30
No. 14 Ohio St. 34, Minnesota 21
Maryland 20, No. 17 Clemson 17
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Has anyone ever seen McGehee play middle IF in the minors?
He doesn’t look quick enough to play MI in the ML, and I doubt that he has a ML 3B bat.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Worse than Hoffpauir???? Botts????? :-)
Don’t the Cubs have a genuine 4A SS they could have called up for September emergencies like Cedeno sliding head-first and jamming his shoulder and DeRo pulling a muscle?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I sometimes wake up at night in a cold sweat screaming...
…the name of whoever our shortstop in AAA is. (It changes without ever improving.)
T.R. with the big stick!!!!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Lilly = awesomeness
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
Ted the Bulldog with a ground-rule double
2nd and 3rd, 2 out
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Lilly
Settin up the chance to plow someone at the plate
2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!
Lilly commands the ball into a double
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I wish I had confidence in Dome...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I wish Dome had confidence in Dome.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Hi DeRo, don't bother bringing your IF glove next week...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I have confidence that over the winter
and into spring training he will fine tune his approach. To start with he fooled ptchers, but they figured him out and have been fooling him. I don’t think he is a lost cause at all.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto
I really hope he works hard during ST
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
Having seen how much better a hitter Hideki Matsui was after hisfist season w/ the Yankees.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 27, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that he will be better in 2009. However, I don't think he will figure things out before next Wednesday.
Thus, a good 2B becomes an average RF, and a good bench player becomes an adequate 2B, and the bench gains a PR.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Dome fly out to center. 3 outs
2-0 Cubs, middle 2
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
For those in desperate need to watch the game with a video stream on your computer
I have it running, but it requires a lot of buffering, and you need the tvant streaming client to see it. I might go back to the MLB audio feed from Pat and Ron.
http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports
Just click on the row with the Brewers vs. Cubs. It is a few minutes behind the actual game because of buffering issues, and it’s not easy to find the tvant client on the internet.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
ESPN thinks that this will be Sheets' crowning achievement if he wins this game?
I mean, he is facing the Iowa Cubs (and losing)…
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I think it probably would be.
It’s a great story if he pulls it off. And it would put to bed the idea that he isn’t mentally tough.
good stuff
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean it was at his waist?
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry
Fielder looks like
he ate all the nachos in the park today for a pre game snack. Or maybe its the fact that he isn’t wearing a more slimming dark color.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
I think he isn't wearing his gertle (sp.?) today.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
There is no slimming color for someone that fat.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
back to Cedeno again, I see sigh
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
You have to think...
… that Grace said to himself “I would have gotten that.”
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
"Stone Hands" Rickie Weeks at bat...
Why didn’t Ned try him in CF last year instead of moving Bill Hall there?
The Brewers “brain trust” have to be idiots to sign a GO pitcher like Suppan and back him up with that IF.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I do get a kick out of how Weeks waggles his bat
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Imitating Sheffield...
Too bad that Sheff was a better IF (in the minors) than Weeks is…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Don't ya think?
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like raaaiiinnn
on your Yankees game
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh, I'll be joining the game thread for a while...
Until I can find somewhere to watch the game. TV is being used, unfortunately.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry
for the record...
that would have been a good time for cedeno to slide head first into 1b.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
lol announcers commenting on what a big
veggie Fielder is
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
They called him
the most athletic person on the team, if I heard it right.
“First basemen are always the most athletic on their teams”
by cubsfaninatl on Sep 27, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That was grace, with tongue in cheek
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
yep, that was...
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Colin,
Is there a web site that lists the league (or ML) average OPS (or other good stat) at each position? You said that you think Weeks is OK offensively at 2B? I guess that .745 seems more like a SS…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Baseball Reference should have it on the splits page.
Typically, though, a second baseman is a league-average hitter, so it’s not tough to figure out. He’s not a horrible hitter for a second baseman, but realistically he shouldn’t be playing second.
OK, so you might expect a 2B to be about 100 OPS+??
On NL OPS+, are pitchers and PHers included in calculating averages? Or is it just “qualifiers” that determine the 100 level?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
On Shortstops
IMHO We don’t necesarily need an Ozzie Smith or an Omar Vizquel in his prime. Just a guy who can consitently make all the routine plays in ways that give confidence to the pitcher and other players on the field. Larry Bowa was a good example of someone like that. Unfortunately, neither Cedeno nor Theriot quite fit the mold.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
DeRo does...
…so obviously Lou wants something else.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Lou
I think he wants Theriot’s OBP in the lineup and is willing to sacrifice some D to get it.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 27, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Sheets may have just got squeezed right there, that was close. Oh well I’ll take it I hate the Brewers.
was just going to type that
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
was just going to type
“was just going to type that”
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Ben Sheets almost at 50 pitches in the 3rd.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Ben Sheets with a valiant effort nonethless
but he is NOT effective today
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
woo hoo loaded bases!
someone take away their keys
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I want the Mets and Phils to tie and the Brewers also.
Extra games on Mon AND Tue
McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket
by Goat Whisperer on Sep 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am liking your thinking here
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
go nats is like rooting for a dyslexic kid to win a spelling bee
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Go Dyslexic kid! Win that Spelling Bee!
McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket
by Goat Whisperer on Sep 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Fonty! 4-0!!!
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Oh yeah!
4-0 Sneaky!
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
And he comes through!
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
Maddux to Sheets:
Ben, you don’t have to be so fine. This is their B team.
Ben: Mike, I know. But they are hitting everything I put in the strike zone…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I love fontenot.
I would love to see him as the starter next year.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
You want DeRo traded?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Nah, but I like a LH bat at 2b
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband
Sorry, Ben
schmoked by the AAA Cubs
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
As in, "DeRo, you need your big glove today."???
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Am I the only one who thinks that Hoffpauir is slower than the tortoise?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Is Anyone Concerned
…about the mental health of Brewers fans right now? Hope no one in Milwaukee harms themselves or others,
No. Tomorrow I might, but they can't be eliminated today.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
They aren't as tempered in the ways
of Cubs fans. We are survivors and we will get our pay off for it!
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
just strolled over to evil BCB
they’re surprisingly calm… mostly sympathetic for sheets
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I kind of am too
Not best of situations to throw an injured pitcher into. That’s without even mentioning the mental game even if they aren;’t out of the race today.
It has to start some place. It has to start some time. What better place than here. What better time than now. ~Rage Against the Machine
by love the ivy on Sep 27, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I just saw Rickie Weeks make a good play!
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
Quick!! Buy a lottery ticket!!!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Weeks actually did good there
Initially I thought he had thrown it away.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Follow me to the next thread.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/27/622995/overflow-thread-1-cubs-vs
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
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