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The "Who Will Bulldog Lilly Run Over Today?" Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Saturday 9/27, 2:55 CT

Chicago Cubs at Milwaukee Brewers, Sep 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT



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Chicago Cubs
@ Milwaukee Brewers

Saturday, Sep 27, 2008, 2:55 PM CDT
Miller Park

Ted Lilly vs Ben Sheets

Mostly sunny. Winds blowing out to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

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It's still warm here in the Midwest, so it's likely the roof at Miller Park will be open again today -- which, with the late-afternoon start, should create weird shadows on the field. There's nothing left for the Cubs this regular season except: try to win two games to equal the club's highest win total since 1935, and to try to knock the Brewers out of the postseason.

Today's Geo Photo is not gratuitous -- here he is being examined by Lou and a trainer after he aggravated his hand problem. Geo said he was fine after the game and probably would have had today off anyway.

Ouch!

via www.chicagotribune.com

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Ben Sheets
B. Sheets
Brewers
16-9 W-L 13-8
4.17 ERA 2.98
180 SO 157
63 BB 45
32 HR 16
vs. Mil -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 16-9 33 33 0 0 0 0 198.2 185 95 92 32 63 180 4.17 1.25


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ben Sheets 13-8 30 30 5 3 0 0 196.0 176 70 65 16 45 157 2.98 1.13

The Brewers, desperate, turn to Ben Sheets, who left the game at Wrigley Field on September 17 after two innings with elbow trouble. He's 1-1, 4.82 vs. the Cubs this year; the last time the Cubs faced him in Miller Park on July 29, they hit him pretty hard. Derrek Lee is 17-for-53 (.321) with 6 homers lifetime vs. Sheets. I would expect all the starters to go today except Geovany Soto, nursing that hurt left hand, and Mark DeRosa, who's going to rest his strained calf until tomorrow.

The last time Ted Lilly pitched in Miller Park, he threw seven one-hit innings with nine strikeouts. Of course, that was against the Astros, not the Brewers. Still, Lilly has completely turned around his poor start -- he's 6-3, 3.50 in August and September, and after allowing an alarming total of 31 homers in his first 30 starts, he's given up only one in his last three. He's 0-1 vs. the Brewers this year, but that loss was in April, a long time ago. Prince Fielder is 5-for-12 off Lilly, but without a homer.

Today's game is on Fox. Here is the Fox link that shows who's carrying which game in your market. For other games today see theMLB.com Mediacenter.

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Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 2:45 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 3:45, 4:45 and 5:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Going to the game today...

And hoping its not my last and that I’ll get lucky with the NLCS drawings!

by KatoRx on Sep 27, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Here with YET ANOTHER new laptop

sheesh. Laptops and I just do not get along.

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I gave up on a PC Laptop.

I recently switched to a Mac PowerBook and downgraded it to Windows XP. It works great.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 27, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I ended up with an HP

given how quickly I go through laptops Apples are on the pricey side

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

A MacBookPro is going to be my next computer.

Whenever I can afford one.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

After 15 years with PC

Windows Vista made me switch to MAC. Very happy so far.

by gocubsgo22 on Sep 27, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Macbook Pro

is the best. I’ll never go back

by mlern on Sep 27, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I use mine for work and play and it’s the best. Web pages get served up much quicker than on my PC, adding/removing software is a snap, and iTunes….well, it speaks for itself.

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 27, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cat need another toy?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 27, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's already taken a gnaw on it ;-)

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rockin' my linux laptop here

No problems here either, and all of my software is free!

Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog

by berselius on Sep 27, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

my very short lived laptop

died because I spilled a glass of water on it.

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's make the Brewers squirm.

Go Cubs. Stay healthy, get healthy and win!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 27, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Should be interesting to see what Sheets has today

given that 4 days ago, Sveum termed it a ‘minor miracle’ if he started today.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Good question...

…and seeing that he has had recent problems, going on short rest is really pushing the envelope for the Brewers.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 27, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers are definitely pushing the envelope

if (and when) Sabbathia pitches tomorrow, it’ll his third straight start on 3-days rest.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any reason for real concern?

Not that I want to be a ledge-jumper or anything even similar to it, but a simple open question to you all.
Dempster looked very sharp last night. Gio is a phenomenal player and a great game-caller. The infield defense is solid. Edmonds has proven time and again how wrong I was.
However, Hoffpauir made a boneheaded play. Soriano… I won’t even go there, fearing relentless retaliation. Gaudin, well, we have all seen/read what happened. Spellcheck always falls behind in the count.
I realize one game doesn’t mean anything, especially when playing a desperate team with not much to play for. I would just like to know, for conversation sake, if any of you have concerns about the postseason. Thank you.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 27, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Soriano was awful last night

Is he trying not to get hurt? Picking his playoff team? Just taking it easy?

by mlern on Sep 27, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou was funny last night...

It looked like Geo tried to talk his way into staying in the game, until Lou mouthed something to the extent of, “Nah nah you’re getting the hell out of the game!”

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Sep 27, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I obviously think we're the best team in baseball

and am not too concerned about who we play in the first round but I would really like to beat the Brewers and knock them out. I’d like to play the Met’s and their awful bulpen in the first round

2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!

by BradB311 on Sep 27, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Just want to win

Want Lilly to throw a good 6, win a neat 5-2 game.
Get this lineup back to normal.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Sep 27, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

hard to believe the regular season is almost over...

damn this year was great but it went by too fast!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 27, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe if we ask Bud real nice,

he’ll expand the season to 180 games.

Or not.

Standings: -EEEEE
Me: "EEEEE!"

by znohitter on Sep 27, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

breaks my heart

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I need some advice regarding Lilly

Im in the finals of my fantasy league and Im having a bit of trouble deciding whether or not to start Teddy today, as his career numbers vs Milwaukee are less than stellar, particularly against Braun and Prince, not to mention the Brewers as a whole do well against lefties….but Teddy has been hot lately, so you see my dilemma….any advice/opinions would be welcome.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Sep 27, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Im in the finals also

my opinion: Start ever Cub you got. Every day

2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!

by BradB311 on Sep 27, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA, well its a bit more complicated than that Im afraid

i try and stay away from Cubs whenever possible so I can think and act w/o bias…..but I have a slim lead in ERA and the brewers can hit Lilly

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Sep 27, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess it kinda depends

on where your ERA’s at and how many runs you think Lilly could give up. Also if you need more K’s or a W

2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!

by BradB311 on Sep 27, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have Lilly

But for about the last 6 starts he has been benched.What happened was I FORGOT to play him and he pitched GREAT so I decided
to sacrifice my fantasy stats in the INSANE belief he pitched better if he was not on my team.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I benched him...

and through 2 IP, I look like a moron

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Sep 27, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

No you are doing it for the good of the cause

I keep him on my bench because he does BETTER .

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: RIP Paul Newman

what a great actor and man he was

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

A priest from Kenosha spends a lot of time at the "Hole in the Wall" camp

And has always had many wonderful things to say about Mr. Newman.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree totally

He was my generation’s Bogart.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Sep 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

cubs

one more loss and we,ll probably play the dodgers.although the owners of the worst record of the division winners they will be tough.remember the cards 2 yrs ago???world series winners.

by NOMAR on Sep 27, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

archy

your writing style reminds me of archy, the cockroach, created in 1927 by the inimitable don marquis. archy, along with his sidekick Mehitabel the cat, went on many an adventure and then, late at night he would hop onto marquis’ typewriter and report about them. because he was a cockroach archy couldn’t capitalize or punctuate very well because to do so he would have to hold down the shift and letter keys simultaneously. archy and mehitabel lead great lives.

as mehitabel would often say: cheerio my deario toujour gai is my motto

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

This might be the best comment ever

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on what the Mets do today

If the Mets win today, it forces Milwaukee to throw Sabbathia tomorrow, unless they hold him back for a possible one-game playoff. So, with only one more loss by the Cubs, it could and probably will set up a 1-game playoff between Milwaukee and New York.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everybody's hung over

I have never seen a pre-game thread so quiet. Last night must’ve been a fun one.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 27, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I just saw some tumbleweed roll by.

"What's the score?" "Nothing-nothing." "Who's winning?" "The Bears."

by ScottieG33 on Sep 27, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

the wife has me doing housework.

believe me, I’d rather be in here than dusting the house.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carrying on something from the last thread:

Dodger Stadium hitting splits, 2001-2007:

Day: .253/.312/.404
Night: .250/.314/.393

And, just because I can, 2006-2007, Wrigley Field, wind splits:

OUT: .280/.337/.479
IN: .246/.312/.387
NEITHER/UNKNOWN: .252/.321/.395

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you Collin

I’m still hoping it’s the Mets and Shae.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 27, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I'm undecided on which of...

…the Mets, Phillies and Brewers is the best team. I’d have to meditate on it a while.

I’m convinced that all of them are better teams than the Dodgers, though.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Dodger Stadium is deadball capital of the world

and Manny is hitting.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Sep 27, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not trying to take anything away from Manny...

…and you never face truly bad teams in the playoffs, but the Dodgers are the worst playoff team this year, and I say this not knowing who wins the NL Wild Card or the AL Central.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs/Sox All Access is on WGN right now...pretty good

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Sep 27, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

7000!

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 27, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

7792!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna beat you!

haha

2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?

by Chanman25 on Sep 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-0 Metsies

Bottom 4th.

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 27, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Lineups!

Scrubs:

Dome
Infield Predator
Huff-P
Baby Got Back
The Imperial
Wonder Hamster
Casey McGehee Doesn’t Deserve A Nickname
Hank White
Ted Freaking Lilly

I leave it to you to decode my wacky nicknames. Or just click here.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

definitely the second string

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

From a preseason article in the Northern Indiana Post-Tribune...

…which is sadly no longer online:

Power is the missing link in Theriot’s hitting approach. His .266 report card was spruced up with just three home runs. So pencil him in as a table-setter.

“It’s what I’ve always done,” Theriot says. “My numbers aren’t going to jump out at you.”

Shortstops who lack power are vulnerable. Knowing that, Theriot must be wary of infield predators.

“You have to keep that sense of urgency about you,” he says. “There’s always somebody behind you, trying to take away your job.”

His competition will come from Ron Cedeno, a talented athlete who was a bust in 2007 but helped the Aragua Tigres win their second straight Venezuelan Winter League title with 11 RBI in the playoffs.

Ever since, I’ve been very amused by the idea of Ron Cedeno, Infield Predator. (You can see just how much on my old blog. Light on stats, heavy on Photoshops of wild animals.)

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Cedeno, Infield Predator.

Man, I think I might like him more if he went by Ron.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just guessing at who

you thought didn’t belong on the second string lol

by LT on Sep 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if I was allowed to fill out one lineup spot for Lou some day...

…and had the choice of starting Cedeno at short or starting Dome in right over Huff-P, it’s Dome all the way.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen,

your Sum of All Fears lineup!

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

you never know how it will work out

A similiar lineup won big last Sunday against the Cards…

by LT on Sep 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

But this lineup is straight out of some worst-case scenario.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I could field a worse lineup out of the current roster...

…if I really tried. I think it involved Jason Marquis playing center field.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Howry as a starting pitcher

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marquis in CF is not THAT scary

Best all round athlete of the pitchers. Howry on the mound at ANYTIME is scarier than Marquis playing SS. Hoff playing ANYWHERE is also scary.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howry on the mound, or in right in that scenario?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, it does.

Casey McGehee, 3B
Mike Fontenot, 2B
Micah Hoffpauir, LF
Daryle Ward, RF
Jason Marquis, CF
Henry Blanco, 1B
Koyie Hill, C
Ronny Cedeno, SS
Kevin Hart, P

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

that might scare me more.

Especially with Hart on the mound.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou: The Mets Are The Better NLDS Opponent!

Why aren’t you trying to beat Milwaukee???

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou must like the weather in LA

and the chance to beat Torre.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Lou is less concerned about who he's facing...

…and more concerned about getting his team prepared to do the best it can.

by cwyers on Sep 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cue Van Halen

and Jump!

or for the fine folks from Wisconsin, Jump Around!

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Cubs!!

This game probably doesn’t mean poop to you folks, but the Mets need this one badly. We’re all Cubbie fans today!

by Eric Simon on Sep 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

we welcome you!

That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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