The "Who Will Bulldog Lilly Run Over Today?" Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Saturday 9/27, 2:55 CT
Chicago Cubs at Milwaukee Brewers, Sep 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
It's still warm here in the Midwest, so it's likely the roof at Miller Park will be open again today -- which, with the late-afternoon start, should create weird shadows on the field. There's nothing left for the Cubs this regular season except: try to win two games to equal the club's highest win total since 1935, and to try to knock the Brewers out of the postseason.
Today's Geo Photo is not gratuitous -- here he is being examined by Lou and a trainer after he aggravated his hand problem. Geo said he was fine after the game and probably would have had today off anyway.
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The Brewers, desperate, turn to Ben Sheets, who left the game at Wrigley Field on September 17 after two innings with elbow trouble. He's 1-1, 4.82 vs. the Cubs this year; the last time the Cubs faced him in Miller Park on July 29, they hit him pretty hard. Derrek Lee is 17-for-53 (.321) with 6 homers lifetime vs. Sheets. I would expect all the starters to go today except Geovany Soto, nursing that hurt left hand, and Mark DeRosa, who's going to rest his strained calf until tomorrow.
The last time Ted Lilly pitched in Miller Park, he threw seven one-hit innings with nine strikeouts. Of course, that was against the Astros, not the Brewers. Still, Lilly has completely turned around his poor start -- he's 6-3, 3.50 in August and September, and after allowing an alarming total of 31 homers in his first 30 starts, he's given up only one in his last three. He's 0-1 vs. the Brewers this year, but that loss was in April, a long time ago. Prince Fielder is 5-for-12 off Lilly, but without a homer.
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Going to the game today...
And hoping its not my last and that I’ll get lucky with the NLCS drawings!
Here with YET ANOTHER new laptop
sheesh. Laptops and I just do not get along.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I gave up on a PC Laptop.
I recently switched to a Mac PowerBook and downgraded it to Windows XP. It works great.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
I ended up with an HP
given how quickly I go through laptops Apples are on the pricey side
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
A MacBookPro is going to be my next computer.
Whenever I can afford one.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Cat need another toy?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Sep 27, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
he's already taken a gnaw on it ;-)
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Rockin' my linux laptop here
No problems here either, and all of my software is free!
Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog
my very short lived laptop
died because I spilled a glass of water on it.
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Should be interesting to see what Sheets has today
given that 4 days ago, Sveum termed it a ‘minor miracle’ if he started today.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Good question...
…and seeing that he has had recent problems, going on short rest is really pushing the envelope for the Brewers.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
The Brewers are definitely pushing the envelope
if (and when) Sabbathia pitches tomorrow, it’ll his third straight start on 3-days rest.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Sep 27, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Any reason for real concern?
Not that I want to be a ledge-jumper or anything even similar to it, but a simple open question to you all.
Dempster looked very sharp last night. Gio is a phenomenal player and a great game-caller. The infield defense is solid. Edmonds has proven time and again how wrong I was.
However, Hoffpauir made a boneheaded play. Soriano… I won’t even go there, fearing relentless retaliation. Gaudin, well, we have all seen/read what happened. Spellcheck always falls behind in the count.
I realize one game doesn’t mean anything, especially when playing a desperate team with not much to play for. I would just like to know, for conversation sake, if any of you have concerns about the postseason. Thank you.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Soriano was awful last night
Is he trying not to get hurt? Picking his playoff team? Just taking it easy?
Lou was funny last night...
It looked like Geo tried to talk his way into staying in the game, until Lou mouthed something to the extent of, “Nah nah you’re getting the hell out of the game!”
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Sep 27, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
I obviously think we're the best team in baseball
and am not too concerned about who we play in the first round but I would really like to beat the Brewers and knock them out. I’d like to play the Met’s and their awful bulpen in the first round
2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!
Just want to win
Want Lilly to throw a good 6, win a neat 5-2 game.
Get this lineup back to normal.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
hard to believe the regular season is almost over...
damn this year was great but it went by too fast!
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Maybe if we ask Bud real nice,
he’ll expand the season to 180 games.
Or not.
Standings: -EEEEE
Me: "EEEEE!"
breaks my heart
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
I need some advice regarding Lilly
Im in the finals of my fantasy league and Im having a bit of trouble deciding whether or not to start Teddy today, as his career numbers vs Milwaukee are less than stellar, particularly against Braun and Prince, not to mention the Brewers as a whole do well against lefties….but Teddy has been hot lately, so you see my dilemma….any advice/opinions would be welcome.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Im in the finals also
my opinion: Start ever Cub you got. Every day
2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!
HA, well its a bit more complicated than that Im afraid
i try and stay away from Cubs whenever possible so I can think and act w/o bias…..but I have a slim lead in ERA and the brewers can hit Lilly
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
i guess it kinda depends
on where your ERA’s at and how many runs you think Lilly could give up. Also if you need more K’s or a W
2008 National League Central Division Champs!!!!!
I have Lilly
But for about the last 6 starts he has been benched.What happened was I FORGOT to play him and he pitched GREAT so I decided
to sacrifice my fantasy stats in the INSANE belief he pitched better if he was not on my team.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I benched him...
and through 2 IP, I look like a moron
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
No you are doing it for the good of the cause
I keep him on my bench because he does BETTER .
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: RIP Paul Newman
what a great actor and man he was
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
A priest from Kenosha spends a lot of time at the "Hole in the Wall" camp
And has always had many wonderful things to say about Mr. Newman.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree totally
He was my generation’s Bogart.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Sep 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
cubs
one more loss and we,ll probably play the dodgers.although the owners of the worst record of the division winners they will be tough.remember the cards 2 yrs ago???world series winners.
archy
your writing style reminds me of archy, the cockroach, created in 1927 by the inimitable don marquis. archy, along with his sidekick Mehitabel the cat, went on many an adventure and then, late at night he would hop onto marquis’ typewriter and report about them. because he was a cockroach archy couldn’t capitalize or punctuate very well because to do so he would have to hold down the shift and letter keys simultaneously. archy and mehitabel lead great lives.
as mehitabel would often say: cheerio my deario toujour gai is my motto
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
by Emelie on Sep 27, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This might be the best comment ever
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
could be a way at getting back at the NL West for last post season
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
Depends on what the Mets do today
If the Mets win today, it forces Milwaukee to throw Sabbathia tomorrow, unless they hold him back for a possible one-game playoff. So, with only one more loss by the Cubs, it could and probably will set up a 1-game playoff between Milwaukee and New York.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Everybody's hung over
I have never seen a pre-game thread so quiet. Last night must’ve been a fun one.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I just saw some tumbleweed roll by.
"What's the score?" "Nothing-nothing." "Who's winning?" "The Bears."
the wife has me doing housework.
believe me, I’d rather be in here than dusting the house.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Carrying on something from the last thread:
Dodger Stadium hitting splits, 2001-2007:
Day: .253/.312/.404
Night: .250/.314/.393
And, just because I can, 2006-2007, Wrigley Field, wind splits:
OUT: .280/.337/.479
IN: .246/.312/.387
NEITHER/UNKNOWN: .252/.321/.395
Thank you Collin
I’m still hoping it’s the Mets and Shae.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Personally, I'm undecided on which of...
…the Mets, Phillies and Brewers is the best team. I’d have to meditate on it a while.
I’m convinced that all of them are better teams than the Dodgers, though.
But Dodger Stadium is deadball capital of the world
and Manny is hitting.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Not trying to take anything away from Manny...
…and you never face truly bad teams in the playoffs, but the Dodgers are the worst playoff team this year, and I say this not knowing who wins the NL Wild Card or the AL Central.
Cubs/Sox All Access is on WGN right now...pretty good
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
7792!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 27, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineups!
Scrubs:
Dome
Infield Predator
Huff-P
Baby Got Back
The Imperial
Wonder Hamster
Casey McGehee Doesn’t Deserve A Nickname
Hank White
Ted Freaking Lilly
I leave it to you to decode my wacky nicknames. Or just click here.
definitely the second string
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
From a preseason article in the Northern Indiana Post-Tribune...
…which is sadly no longer online:
Power is the missing link in Theriot’s hitting approach. His .266 report card was spruced up with just three home runs. So pencil him in as a table-setter.
“It’s what I’ve always done,” Theriot says. “My numbers aren’t going to jump out at you.”
Shortstops who lack power are vulnerable. Knowing that, Theriot must be wary of infield predators.
“You have to keep that sense of urgency about you,” he says. “There’s always somebody behind you, trying to take away your job.”
His competition will come from Ron Cedeno, a talented athlete who was a bust in 2007 but helped the Aragua Tigres win their second straight Venezuelan Winter League title with 11 RBI in the playoffs.
Ever since, I’ve been very amused by the idea of Ron Cedeno, Infield Predator. (You can see just how much on my old blog. Light on stats, heavy on Photoshops of wild animals.)
Ron Cedeno, Infield Predator.
Man, I think I might like him more if he went by Ron.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I was just guessing at who
you thought didn’t belong on the second string lol
by LT on Sep 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
And if I was allowed to fill out one lineup spot for Lou some day...
…and had the choice of starting Cedeno at short or starting Dome in right over Huff-P, it’s Dome all the way.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
your Sum of All Fears lineup!
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
you never know how it will work out
A similiar lineup won big last Sunday against the Cards…
by LT on Sep 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I know.
But this lineup is straight out of some worst-case scenario.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I think I could field a worse lineup out of the current roster...
…if I really tried. I think it involved Jason Marquis playing center field.
and Howry as a starting pitcher
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou
Marquis in CF is not THAT scary
Best all round athlete of the pitchers. Howry on the mound at ANYTIME is scarier than Marquis playing SS. Hoff playing ANYWHERE is also scary.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Howry on the mound, or in right in that scenario?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yep, it does.
Casey McGehee, 3B
Mike Fontenot, 2B
Micah Hoffpauir, LF
Daryle Ward, RF
Jason Marquis, CF
Henry Blanco, 1B
Koyie Hill, C
Ronny Cedeno, SS
Kevin Hart, P
that might scare me more.
Especially with Hart on the mound.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Lou: The Mets Are The Better NLDS Opponent!
Why aren’t you trying to beat Milwaukee???
Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.
Lou must like the weather in LA
and the chance to beat Torre.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Lou is less concerned about who he's facing...
…and more concerned about getting his team prepared to do the best it can.
Cue Van Halen
and Jump!
or for the fine folks from Wisconsin, Jump Around!
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Go Cubs!!
This game probably doesn’t mean poop to you folks, but the Mets need this one badly. We’re all Cubbie fans today!
we welcome you!
That's the beauty of baseball. You never know what's going to happen until the final out -- Lou

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