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Reflections On The 2008 Season

Before we move on to the Division Series against the Dodgers -- and I'll have some thoughts on that posted either later today or tomorrow -- I thought it would be nice to take a deep breath, a few steps back, and think again about this remarkable baseball season we have just experienced.

I've renamed the box on the right sidebar that contains the Cubs' record in their best seasons, that I've maintained on a daily basis since May, "Most Cub Wins In A Season". In the entire 133-season history of the Chicago National League Ball Club, this year's 97-victory bunch won more than all but eight of the previous editions. Of those eight, seven of them won pennants and the other one, the 1909 team, won 104 games and finished second (and likely would have also won the pennant, which would have given them five straight pennants, if Johnny Kling, their fine catcher, hadn't stayed home in Kansas City all year in a contract dispute). There is no doubt that this is the best Cub team in decades, likely since the 1935 Cubs won 100.

The 2008 Cubs led the NL in runs, and by a substantial margin: 855 runs scored; the next-best teams, the Mets and Phillies, tied at 799. They led the league in doubles, walks, OBA and SLG. They finished tied for second (with the Brewers) in ERA, and second to the Dodgers -- and this will likely come into play starting Wednesday -- in fewest runs allowed. They lost six in a row once, and apart from that the longest losing streak of the season was four. They had winning streaks of nine, seven, six and three five-game streaks. Their mission now is to win eleven of the next nineteen.

We all have our memories of our favorite games, performances and players this season. Personally, I love this team. There isn't a single player on the 2008 Cubs that I dislike -- although I'd prefer that Bob Howry not make the postseason roster, I think he's a standup guy who's doing the best he can, it's just not good enough. So to end this brief review, a few notes on how pre-season (or pre-POSTseason, if you are inclined to do so) analysis or looking at early-season performance isn't necessarily the way things are going to turn out.

  • When the Mets traded for Johan Santana, many in the mass media ceded the NL East, the playoffs and the World Series to the Mets. I asked, "Yeah, Johan and who else?" Santana did have a fine year for the Mets; he won 16 games and led the league in ERA. But despite his clutch shutout on the season's penultimate day, the Mets will be watching the playoffs on TV for the second year in a row.
  • When the Diamondbacks started the season 21-9, many of you here were worried that "those great pitchers" would once again shut down the Cubs in the postseason. I said, "They're not that good." They weren't. Despite picking up Adam "Me See Ball, Me Hit Ball Long Way" Dunn, the D'backs finished ninth in the league in runs scored and had to sweep their final series vs. the Rockies just to finish over .500.
  • When the Tigers started 0-7, I pointed out here that no team that had started that badly had ever made the postseason. I said, "They're done." Many of you disagreed. Turns out, they were done. They managed to squeak to three games over .500 on July 23 (55-52) and to within 5 games of first place, but have gone 19-35 from that day to today, when they will visit the Cell to try to deny the White Sox a tiebreaker game tomorrow with the Twins. You can bet Freddy Garcia is going to want to beat his former team and Ozzie Guillen, his close friend.

Speaking of the makeup game today, it is the first such game played since 1973. I posted this in the recap thread from Saturday's game; if you missed it, here are the circumstances surrounding the 1973 Padres/Pirates makeup game, courtesy of Mike Emeigh of SABR:

In 1973, the Mets were 81-79, the Cardinals were 81-81, and the Pirates were 80-81. The Mets had two rainouts with the Cubs to be replayed at Wrigley Field, while the Pirates had a single game to make up with San Diego. Had the Mets lost both games and the Pirates won their game, there would have been a three-cornered tie for the NL East title. As it turned out, the Mets defeated the Cubs in the first game of the scheduled doubleheader to clinch the division, while the Pirates were losing to the Padres. The scheduled second game of the Wrigley Field DH, being no longer necessary, was cancelled.

To expand a little on that, the two Mets/Cubs games were rainouts that had occurred on the season's final weekend, when the weather in Chicago was dreary and cold, but the Mets were already in town. The Pirates/Padres game had been rained out in April, and San Diego had to make a special one-day trip to Pittsburgh, much as the Tigers have to do today. The 1973 Padres were a terrible team; they lost 102 games, but their win that day helped to deny the Pirates a shot at a tiebreaker.

This has been a fascinating and joyful baseball season, filled with marvels. May those marvels thrill us as Cubs fans for four more weeks.

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Best Cubs Team I've Seen

I’ve never seen a Cubs team with as good a starting rotation as the 2008 club. There aren’t any big holes in the lineup unless you count Dome in the second half of the season. Marmol and Wood provide the best 1-2 punch I can remember the Cubs having in the bullpen. I think this team is a little better than the 1984 club. Let’s hope the 2008 team does better in the playoffs. I sure am glad there can be, at most, 2 games, not 3, in California in this Dodgers series.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 29, 2008 8:45 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comparison with 1984.

That was a terrific team. This one has a deeper rotation, a FAR better bench (I mean, Tom Veryzer was the backup SS) and a much better bullpen.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 29, 2008 8:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The fact that the Cubs were able to field a competitive team

against two of the NL contenders while using backups bodes well for the post season. This team is extremely deep and if the pitching holds up they should go deep into the playoffs. Ted Lilly performance in September is extremely positive. To have a #4 starter perform like he has is almost unbelieveable. He is a real luxury. Big Z is probably our 4th best pitcher and he threw a no-hitter 3 starts ago. I can’t wait till wednesday.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The '84 bench may have been weaker but I'd sure like to have the '84

versions of Bosley and Hebner to pinch hit.

My main fear is that Cubs are built more for 162 game success and not 5 game series success. I agree it’s amazing to have such solid number four and five starters but that’s more important over a season, not in a five game series. The starters don’t go deep enough into games and the bridge to Marmol is weak and creaky at best. I imagine Lou and Hendry have thought about taking Gaudin out back of the ballpark and shooting him for the “accident” that injured him.

If they can get past the five game series I like the Cubs to go to the WS.

by the nth on Sep 29, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weak and creaky? Marmol is one of the most dominating relievers in the

game right now. It’s funny how we can be so tough on our own players. We expect them to succeed every time and if they don’t, they suck. Take a poll of how many managers would take that weak and creaky arm over what they have in their bullpen, you would be surprised.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That wasn't an insult to Marmol

“the bridge to Marmol” would be those who come in before him (and after the starter)

by GoCubbies34 on Sep 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My mistake, I misread it.

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 10:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There' no room for politics here

but it is sad that Howry was once for it, but now he’s against it.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AGREED....

Never been so excited for the playoffs to get under way!! This year’s team has easily been the best Cubs team of my lifetime and I am ready to watch it continue on!!

All things great in 2008!!

All things great in 2008!!

by By Santo's Grace on Sep 29, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reflecting on Howry

Did any of the past Cubs teams with great records have someone who sucked as bad as Howry on their playoff roster?

by adam316 on Sep 29, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they did, he probably never saw the field.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 8:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn't Lou find someone better to put on the roster

So they can never see the field just to make us all feel better? Because I am very nervous. Lou has continuously given Howry the perfect opportunities to blow games for us all season long, and I am seriously concerned that this trend could continue in the playoffs.

by adam316 on Sep 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would go with Wuertz. I know he has a tendency to walk people when he gets under pressure,

but his slider can be nasty and he can get a big strikeout. He has good velocity now and I would take a flyer on him. He certainly wouldn’t be worse than Howry and he usually doesn’t give up home runs.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd go with Angel Guzman.

He throws hard and has good breaking stuff. Yeah, he lacks experience, has been oft injured and could get lit up just as easily as Howry but, used judiciously, he’s a (relatively) young, fresh arm.

The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 29, 2008 10:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Angel was looking nice the other day

hopefully Lou looks to the ‘hot’ arm

Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....

by Andre Fonseca on Sep 29, 2008 11:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully

but I doubt it :(

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by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

The 1984 Cubs had Dick Ruthven. Ruthven had gone 6-10, 5.04 during the season and should have been left off in favor of Rich Bordi, who had thrown much better during the season and was better suited to bullpen duty.

But no. Dallas Green had liked Ruthven from the Phillies days and wanted to reward him with a roster spot. He never did pitch in the NLCS; the Cubs could have used Bordi during that game 5 meltdown.

Sigh. Let’s hope Lou comes to his senses before the roster is made official.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Best season in my lifetime

and this season is only beginning. Round one is over, three rounds to go. I’ve enjoyed every day of this season and I’m looking forward to enjoying October even more!

Now if I just get tickets to the NLCS…………….

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Sep 29, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except for the sixty year-olds around here

We can all make that statement. And honestly, the Cubs really were only that good in 1945 because so many of their players were 4-F. So really, anyone who isn’t in their seventies can make that claim.

Happy days, happy days.

by Josh77 on Sep 29, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a misconception Josh.

VE Day was in early May, (7th & 8th), and most MLB players that left to serve were either already back in uniform for the beginning of the ’45 season, if not soon thereafter. Many of the players that served in WW II were stationed state side playing baseball for military teams as well. Not all that served in the great war were state side though; for one example, Bob Feller was at Iwo Jima.

Many men in that time didn’t go to war, but not all of them because of a 4F designation. Some had brothers in the service and were prevented from sending all male children of service ago to war, (so as to not leave the parents without at least one son at home). Some of these men were simply deemed too old to serve in the capacity in which they were needed.

My father, (too young to serve by a year & a half, and with his only older brother in the Pacific Theater), attended 2 games of the 1945 WS at Wrigley with his father. My dad, (80 yrs. old now), was, and is a die hard Cubs & Sox fan, as his father before him. My dad has told me many stories about the 1945 Cubs, which featured many good players. Among them; pitcher(s) Claude Passeau, Hank Borowy & Hank Wyse. Infielders Phil Cavarretta, Stan Hack & Lennie Merullo. Outfielders like Andy Pafko, Peanuts Lowrey & Eddie Sauer. The ’45 Cubs were managed by Charlie Grimm, (no slouch of a manager).

Make no mistake, there were a number of 4F designees in MLB at the time. However, the Cubs were good that year, because, well… they were good. They had 98 wins against 56 losses, (a .636 clip). They also had the WS title almost in their hands, before losing game 7, by a score of 9-3. According to my father, and my grandfather, the 1945 Cubs were one of the best teams in the Major leagues in the 40s, including 1945.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Old fans talking

My father turned 81 yesterday, 63 years ago he was going to Loyola U in Chicago via the old North Shore RR and was able to attend a number of WS games.

We talked about this team since he later became a Am. Legion Manager and I played to HS. we both lamented that Judge Prentice Marshall was not alive for he was also big Cub fan and once the competitor for Commissioner of Baseball.

This year’s club has by all aspects enveloped the personality and approach to the game from their Manager and Bench Coach. Both Piniella and Trammell played the game correctly, pitch by pitch and situation by situation. This is why they suddenly changed their offensive make up to the plate and walked—-taking pitches and attempting to gain a situational advantage both at the plate and game on.

Trammell played one of the steadiest gloves at SS the club defensively for the most part does that. What people fail to really understand is that getting an out is so big and giving another team 4 or 5 outs in an inning is killer. What the club added when they got Edmonds and Johnson were two gloves in the OF and also two guys that complimented each other. I have to say that Theriot is not Ozzie but he sure holds his own.

As for pitching we both agreed that if Dad were the manager that the Cubs need to win on the mound especially against the Dodgers. Dempster will do well, and Piniella will have a quick hook with Z…..Marquis will be ready early. We will not see Howry unless there is a real blowout either way, what we will see is a lot of Samardz, Cotts, Marmol and Wood, they throw strikes and get outs.

We both agreed when challenged this year situational situations this team responded. In fact look for DLee and Ramirez to have big games unlike last year. We both agreed Lee wore down and another rest will move his warning track power to over the wall.

Also figure that Edmonds might have a couple big contributions thumbing his nose at the Cards and Padres.

This team should make it to the WS—-period and Piniella’s no nonsense will prevail. Finally the guy who might be a situation hero could be Fontenot who is a better hitter than Walker every was.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 29, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trammell

should be in the Hall. He was pretty much an equal to Ryne Sandberg throughout his career. Maybe if he hadn’t gotten jobbed in the 1987 MVP voting (George Bell? What were they thinking?) he’d be getting more consideration.

by Josh77 on Sep 29, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I completely agree.

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by N Oakley on Sep 29, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too.

I watched both Trammel and Lou Whitaker play a lot of years in Detroit. As with Ron Santo, there is no doubt in my mind that ALL of them belong in the HOF.

Trammel and Whitaker were great in their own right and together, they were quite something to watch. Offensively, defensively, they did it right. They respected the game, their teammates, their opponents and each other.

Quite simply, the embodiment of the HOF in my mind.

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by Zeke on Sep 29, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good morning everyone.

It’s almost my favorite month of the year, (October), my birthday, the leaves are changing, MLB post season, FB getting into full swing… This is going to be a great year. Bring on the Dodgers! Don’t worry about Manny, they can pitch around that fool. I hope they make him try to field his position. Soriano is a not a good OFer, but Manny isn’t much better, he doesn’t have the arm that Soriano has. The only one thing I don’t like is that the Brewers are the Wild Card. It doesn’t bother me, I didn’t care if they played the Dodgers or the Mets. It’s the NLCS I’m concerned about. If the Cubs have to face the Brewers in the NLCS, it will be unfair, the Cubs beat them in 161 games, (162 for the Brewers), and then they would have to face them again, just because they were the best SECOND PLACE TEAM! Does anyone really think that either the Mets or the Brewers deserved to be in the post season- they are both poor teams, who are incomplete, held together by band aids. Please MLB, get rid of the Wild Card now.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1

I don’t think Manny is a better fielder than Soriano and I completely disagree about the Wild Card.

But yah, BRING ON THE DODGERS! They were my preferred opponent in the playoffs and they don’t scare me one bit.

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by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 9:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only reason I think Manny might be a better outfielder...

is that he came up playing the OF. As far as the Wild Card. How much sense does it make for the Cubs, (or any team for that matter), to play hard all year to win their division- only to have to beat the second place team in the playoffs, again! The Brewers should not be given the opportunity to beat the Cubs again, they didn’t win the division. I hate that Selig instituted a way for a losing team to actually continue into the postseason. (I mean that they didn’t win their division, not that they didn’t have a winning record.) They shouldn’t be called the wild card, they should be called the best of the losers…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 9:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And yet...

… the Brewers had a better record than the Dodgers. So the only reason they are “losers” is that they were arbitrarily assigned a different division than LA.

This system isn’t perfect, but it has produced some memorable postseason ball.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to mention the Dodgers

have a worse record in the WORST division in baseball, while the Brewers played in arguably the best division in baseball.

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by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 10:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what would they have done

had they still be in the AL (which I think is where they belong)?

Set the Stats-back machine, Wilton!

Why, they would have won the AL Central division, pushing the White Sox completely out of contention, and keeping Boston in the WC slot.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone brought up an interesting point on WGN yesterday

If the Indians had kept Sabathia, they might have won the AL Central, and the Brewers wouldn’t be in the playoffs.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rarely

does one guy make such a big difference. Think the Indians are kicking themselves right now?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe

I think they have to see how the return players pan out.

If you’re the Tribe GM this morning, you have to tell yourself that you acted on the information that you had. That’s all anyone can do.

But yeah, it’d be hard not to wonder at least a little bit.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strange but true.

CC Sabathia made his first start for Milwaukee on July 8.

The Indians had the 2nd-best record in the AL from July 8 to the end of the season. They very well might have won the Central if they had kept him.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Possible

but don’t forget, they got a treasure trove for Sabathia from the Brewers (LaPorta is going to be very good) and even with Sabathia, it seems hard to believe that the Indians could have competed with the Rays, Angels and Red Sox in the playoffs.

But we’ll never know, I guess.

by Josh77 on Sep 29, 2008 12:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They probably believed

they were gonna suck the 2nd half as much as the first half. CC also pitched out of his mind with so much on the line for him personally. Wonder if the Indians will be players for him in the offseason.

The amazing thing for me is that from the Brewers perspective, making the trade for him worth it came down to a couple innings there at the end. If they lose yesterday and the Mets win, it was all for nothing.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not for nothing --

They’ll get two compensatory draft picks if they don’t keep him.

All in all, it was a decent gamble for the Brewers.

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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, if the Cubs hadn't used Howry yesterday...then getting CC would have

not helped the Brewers, and the Indians would have won…and…wow, the Butterfly Effect!

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by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Howry

just ruins everything.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's why I've always liked the wild card system.

When there were no divisions, then only the best team from each league made it to the World Series. Once divisions were established it was inevitable that a # 2 team in a strong division would be left out of the postseason. Instead a division winner with a worse record would get in. The wild card corrects that inequity. It was maligned, like other innovations, due to the NFL. There, a wild card usually has a slightly over .500 record. But after seeing it work and produce champions, I think most have come to realize the value of the wild card in MLB.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 29, 2008 11:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The value of the wild card?

You’ve got to be kidding me. Once divisions were established, it was inevitable that a #2 team would get left out of the post season? Of course it was inevitable, they didn’t win their division! If Bud really wants to make it equitable, then they should do away with divisions, set it up geographically, and then the top 8 teams make the play offs- just like the NBA. The wild card really doesn’t correct anything. It was created by Bud, because of his expansion gone wild, (he didn’t have the cojones to contract anyone), and also for money. No one can convince me that a second place team deserves to go to the post season to potentially have a chance to beat their division winner, when they already had 162 games to try to win the division.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That 2nd place team deserves it as much as a first place team with an inferior record.

They don’t control that another team in their division has a better record. If the object is to have the better teams make the postseason, the wild card contributes to that.

By the way, in any divisional system, it’s also possible for the # 2 team to beat the # 1 team in their region even though they didn’t beat them in the regular season. And in the NBA the winner of a division always makes the playoffs, regardless of how their record compares to other teams. Divisions in baseball are geographically divided, too. The difference between MLB and other sports is that there are only 2 wild card teams in total. That’s why is not as easy to make the postseason in baseball as it is in the NBA or the NFL.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They don't control whether another team in their division has a better record?

That doesn’t make any sense at all. If they beat the other teams in their division more head to head, (i.e. the Cubs & Brewers), then they most certainly have control over whether they have a better record than another team in their division. If the Brewers took all the games that they played against the Cubs this year, they would have won the division. They have direct control over whether or not they have a better or worse record, (every team does), by virtue of playing a 162 game schedule and by beating that particular division foe more head to head. It’s really rather simple…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yawn.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 29, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yawn right back.

I know I’m a traditionalist, and that no one on here agrees with me. (Well, I do know of one person on here), and many in the circles that I run in. Indeed, I have a book half-written regarding Bud Selig that encompasses this & his sad reign as commissioner.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't said it for months now...

and I’m stopping now. Everybody loves the wild card!!!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Satisfied, SWL?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TWSS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 29, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, no, no.

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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As a traditionalist

should MLB go back to no divisions and the best team in the AL faces the best team in the NL in the WS?

The Wild Card should not be eliminated but there should be a “penalty” for being the Wild Card team. I think it was Mike Scioscia who first advocated that the first game of the 5-game NLDS should be played in the Wild Card’s home while the other 4 should be in the division winner’s home. This gives the division winner the advantage they earned.

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Sep 29, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not necessarily.

If a team beats their division leader but loses against everybody else, but meanwhile the division leader wins more consistently against others, the division leader will have a better record.

You logic is more against any kind of playoffs. Any playoff system carries within it the risk of a team with the better record in the regular season not making the World Series.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 29, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be correct if the schedule wasn't set up with playing...

division foes somewhere between 16-19 times a year, depending on how many teams are in your division. In your scenario, the “division leader” wouldn’t likely be the leader, due to the fact that they lose more to teams in other divisions. It’s logic & simple math. My logic is not against any kind of playoffs. My logic is simple, they played the teams in their division more, and could not win their division. They were second place.

With all this said, I know I won’t win anyone over to my logos regarding this. That’s ok though. I’m steadfast. People can like it, or dislike it. Cest’ la vie.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm talking 2008 NY Yankees, for example.

They split their season series with Boston (9-9). Yet they finished behind Boston because the Red Sox played better against other teams.

The Yankees also won the seasons series against Tampa Bay (11-7). But the Rays won the division because they played better against everybody else.

In summary, the Yankees played better against the leaders of their division. But their record is not good enough to make the playoffs.

And Boston had the 3rd best record in the AL. Surely they deserve to be in the postseason over those other teams that didn’t win as many games. It is not the Red Sox’s fault that they play in the same division as the Rays.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 29, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al,

They weren’t arbitrarily assigned to any division, they hardly could have been assigned to the West! So, in fact, the only reason that they are the best SECOND PLACE, LOSER OF THEIR DIVISION team; is because the Cubs proved it over a 162 game schedule. That’s it.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 29, 2008 12:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, but the point is...

… ANY second place team COULD have won.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you are a bit off about the wild card Jimmy. The wild card has given one team a shot to

make the post-season if they have a really good year and the first place team has a great year. It has kept interest in the races late into year and I think that is a good thing. As far as us beating them again, if we are the best team then we should beat them. We will have home field and all things being equal, we should prevail. If we can’t beat them in a seven-game series, we don’t deserve to make it to the WS. If we had been the wild-card team, I don’t think anyone would be advocating turning it down. These are the top 4 teams in the NL. The tounament starts now and may the best team win it.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manny playing Defense

Is quite possibly the most ungraceful thing in the world- Cubs should run on him at every opportunity and pressure him to make plays.
I don’t think the Cubs need to pitch around Manny- they need to be aggressive with him and the guys around him (Ethier is a good hitter) . Manny is crafty but can be attacked.

Cubs Karma: Don't take anything for granted.....

by Andre Fonseca on Sep 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cue the video

of Manny rolling around in the outfield

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's just manny being manny!

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on Sep 29, 2008 11:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He definately was scared

When the Red Sox came to town a few years ago…

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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 29, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone sitting in the left field bleachers...

…should be sure to remind him about the wall every five to ten minutes or so.

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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 29, 2008 11:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree--Alf has a more deadly arm than Manny and..

in general, Alf takes better routes to the ball.

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

by cubfever7 on Sep 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

To even out that -1 that cubswynn gave ya, plus I want to tell you Happy Birthday a little early.

by adam316 on Sep 29, 2008 9:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even though I can't wait for Wednesday night

Another part of me doesn’t want the beginning of the end to this great season to start. It’s sorta like how I felt about Christmas when I was younger. Half the fun was the build up to that day.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

L'Shanah Tovah

to those celebrating for the Jewish New Year!

This year, in 21 attended games, my record was 18-3. That has never happened before, and I don’t expect it will happen again (although it’d be nice!).

I also opined at the beginning of the season that I thought it would take at least 95 wins this year to make the post-season.

Wonderful, exciting year so far. Division Champs –
not enough for me anymore…or my 88 year old dad.

by The E-Man on Sep 29, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

L'shana tovah to you!

Unfortunately I won’t be attending any services tonight. But I did have an enjoyable visit from my brother and his wife last week in town from Chicago, and we even found a great kosher resteraunt in London called Ruebens with the best corned beef salt beef I’ve ever had, I think. Absolutely delicious.

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on Sep 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I once went to New Year services in a synagogue in Ramsgate...in Kent....

Nice folk there.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

L'Shanah Tovah and GO CUBBIES

We have tickets for Thursdays game at Wrigley… and I am so jazzed about being there… Great way to start off the New Year…

GoCubsGo

by MinnesotaFan on Sep 29, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Throughout the season I despised off days,

I believe I will enjoy this Monday and Tuesday.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 29, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we can bank sleep

for those 10pm starts, right?

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darn!

I don’t have rollover minutes.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know it.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I found it amazing...

…that the Mets and Brewers played an entire season and were exactly tied until the 8th inning of their respective games. People talk about football as a game of inches. But baseball seems to be the same.

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by TXCub on Sep 29, 2008 9:17 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know...

Maybe that’s why people get so mad about those early losses in April and May, they count just as much as games do in September.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Sep 29, 2008 9:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GO CUBS!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Sep 29, 2008 9:18 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That Green Day song...

“Wake me up when September Ends” describes my mood right now perfectly. I can’t wait until Wednesday.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Sep 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the recap Al

Best Cubs team in my lifetime and a season filled with great memories. This is the first time going into the playoffs that I feel pretty confident about our chances. Let’s fly that W flag a lot this month.

by digitalbenjamin on Sep 29, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11 times.

That’s all we need.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 9:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or the way i like to put it...

Win the last game they play this year.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Sep 29, 2008 11:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Inside the numbers

All the Cubs have to do is go 11-8 over the next 19 games to win the World Series. Seems do-able to me!

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Sep 29, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

11-8 might do it for the Cubs

But I COULD NOT TAKE the tension of 3 series going the max.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right.

It’s not as easy as the .579 pct (not that that is easy) would suggest. April – September, you can go 0-4 and recover to go 11-4 after. Not in October.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel completely different this year............

Last postseason I really had few expectations, and felt nothing we the Cubs laid an egg. I guess I felt as emotional as the team looked at the time, completely dead. This season of course is different, expectations are high. To me, WED night is key, if the Cubs can win game one, I think everyone takes a deep breath and they roll on through.

"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus

by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Last year I felt we really had only 1 solid starter, Big Z. It’s funny because right now he probably is the 4th best arm on this staff. If you remember, Lilly and Hill were really shaky going into the NLDS last year. I was really impressed with Lilly’s start on Saturday. He domanated some of the best bats in the NL in a game that meant nothing to the Cubs, pretty impressive. I think we will be fine this year.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Lilly is great when he stays aggressive......

The only time he gets in serious trouble is when he starts nibbling around. When he pounds the strike zone with confidence he is often a shutout pitcher, but he always has that one inning where for whatever reason he gets corner happy and refuses to attack. Typical bad Lilly inning is nibbling around walking two guys, has to give in and throw a gimme pitch, three run homer.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well said...

…and the same can be said for virutally every pitcher.

As a pitcher, pitching from behind in the count, is not your friend.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 29, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe the fact that he had nothing to lose made him more aggressive.

Whatever it was, it was extremely effective.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It does apply to every pitcher, but

I think Lilly walks that line a little more precariously than others because his stuff is not completely dominant. Look at Harden, he tries to give games away walking a guy per inning and rarely gives up more than a run per start. With Lilly I always tell my wife, here he goes nibbling around, Troy Glaus 3 run homer.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree...

…the guys with dominant stuff can get away with it a little more.

With that said, any pitcher plays with fire when they keep going 2-0, 2-1 or 3-1 with the hitters. Even the guy with dominant stuff, can give up that 3 run bomb, because a guy just laid for the fastball and guessed right.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lilly's MO has been if we score 5, he gives up 4. I would like

to see him be a little more agressive in the strike zone and stay ahead of the hitters.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not complaining, he has been great, but...........

you are right, he either has that bad 6th inning or bad 1st inning. I can stomach the bad 6th inning if we are scoring runs, but I hate 1st inning runs.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only pitcher on the staff

who makes me more frustrated about that kind of thing is Marquis. When he gets nervous, and stops trusting his defense behind him, he nibbles, and WHAMMO.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, he just loses it (out of the blue)

He is a great #5, but could be a solid #2 or #3 if he could just keep it together on a consistent basis.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's up to the offense

Last year 1-8 essentially went AWOL, especially Rammy. The big boys need to show up this year. Capitolizing on opportunities (man on 3rd/less than 2 out) will be essential to Cub success. That and starters going 7.

Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

also continuing to be patient at the plate. They did a great job this year making starters work, clogging the bases, then clearing them. Can’t get over anxious, especially against Lowe.

Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was a little concerned this weekend with the offense.........

particularly Sori, D Lee and Aram. I know it is hard to get up for relatively meaningless games, but I can’t stomach those three being cold again in the postseason. Aram and Dlee can be patient solid guys if they allow the at bats to play out and not try to yank everything. Sori will be either hot or cold no in between and no rhyme or reason for it as it happens.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without a doubt

the best Cubs team in my lifetime. I’m also very grateful to be able to recognize and appreciate all the different aspects of the team that make it so special. As I went to bed last night I started to for the first time this postseason feel a little anxiety about the Cubs first game. I can’t imagine what it will feel like on Wednesday.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's funny

thinking about the first playoff game actually kept me from sleeping last night!

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by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah there's so much on the line

how can you sleep? I think everyone should visit their doctor during the off days.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al, how's Geo?

Is he gonna be good to go Wednesday?

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by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As far as I know, yes.

He probably could have caught yesterday, but what was the point? Now he has two more days to rest.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I think he’ll come up big…I’m calling LDS MVP.

Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big Z's no-hitter was good practice for the playoff games

The only thing is, every inning of the playoffs is gonna be like the 8th and 9th inning of the no-no.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I, for one, can't wait.

That’s what we live for, right?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell yes

Much better than watching the Cardinals and Astros duke it out for the NL Title.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll tell you one thing

I’ll be drinking a lot. Definitely takes the edge off.

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do ya like

gladiator movies, Timmy?

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse me, stewardess, but I speak jive

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shiiiiit

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chump don't want no help, chump don't get no help.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and Leon is getting LARGER!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a sale at Penney's

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A hospital? What is it?

Well, it’s a large building with a lot of windows. But that’s not important right now.

The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're Kareem Abdul Jabbar

You play basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers!

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Sep 29, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, Son,

my name’s Victor Murdoch.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 29, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My father says sometimes you don't try that hard.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 29, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell your dad to carry Havlicek and Russell up the court all day long!

OK, Timmy, I think it’s time to go back to your seat.

Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

A fresh case of Corona is ready to go for games 1 and 2

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would be luckier if you were next door...

Stairs can be a hazard when drunk. Or curbs – right, Chad??

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

those loading docks will get you if you're not careful

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by Trey2317 on Sep 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You might want a flack jacket

Probably would have helped Gaudin’s back on his trip into the dumpster

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by Trey2317 on Sep 29, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

twhs

The Chicago Cubs: 2008 Central Division Champions

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 29, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'm above a German bar

very convenient

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-Ryan Theriot

by lindz221 on Sep 29, 2008 10:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I live in a Cantina

it’s called my house. A pretty hot chick lives there too. She says we’re married but I can’t confirm or deny. Go Cubs!

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those aren't the droids you are looking for.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. America is ruled over it like an army of steamrollers." It isn't "rolled", it's "ruled".
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesn't like you

I don’t like you either.
You better watch yourself. I have the death sentence on twelve systems!

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TNWHS?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about...

this link?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 29, 2008 10:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That worked!

I didn’t know he was an architect.

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 11:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was...lol.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

robot chicken is the greatest

What’s an Aluminum Falcon!

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by Andre Fonseca on Sep 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm Sorry

I don’t understand the words coming out of your mouth.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, well i'm .5 mile

From a great pub.

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on Sep 29, 2008 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know..............

I wish I could just enjoy it, but it is a roller coaster and I’m already putting so much on WED night, I don’t want this team to be down a game and get all tight on us. Let us all work our mojo and get Derek Lowes sinker up in the zone.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did some number crunching this morning

I haven’t done this much math since I graduated from college in 2007, but I saw the Dodgers lead the Cubs in team ERA and wondered if this was true of the starters also. I just grabbed the four playoff starters since those are the ones that matter.

Cubs: Dempster, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly combined ERA of 3.33

Dodgers: Lowe, Billingsley, Kershaw, Maddux combined ERA of 3.94

Also, most every baseball person knows Dodger Stadium is a pitcher’s park. Just thought these numbers were interesting. Hopefully this holds true!

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kuroda is starting game three

I think he 1-hit the Cubs this year, didn’t he?

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by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

You’re right. Screwed that one up I guess. My friend told me Kuroda was hurt, and since I don’t pay much attention the Dodgers, I took his word for it. Guess I will have to re-figure things.

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah he is starting game three according to espn

personally I hope we don’t have to see Maddux. Look what soft throwing Suppan did to us. Give me fastballs

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We beat him once and he beat us once

He has a 0.59 era against us this year. I would be scared except Rich Harden pitches that game.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Harden

I wonder how his control will be that day. I know he needs extra days off, but he wasn’t exactly Mr. Control out there the last two starts. 11 walks in 11 combined innings. Of course, he only gave up 3 hits during that span also…

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His control is a concern

I think the time off will be good for him, same with Z.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the Dodger's staff...

…and their team ERA at home vs away. You will find a huge difference (about 1.5 runs per game), while the Cubs staff, is within .2 both home and away.

When a pitcher throws in Dodger stadium (especially at night), they know they can be aggressive and go right after guys. The same goes for Wrigley, when the wind is blowing in.

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by MPH73 on Sep 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great point

makes me feel better about having 3 of 5 possible at home. Hope Demp brings his A game.

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by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cwyrers had stats the other day...

showing that there’s really no difference in the hitting stats between day and night games at Dodger Stadium. Surprised me too.

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by Bump Bailey on Sep 29, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh. The fans show in the

3rd regardless of time?

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 29, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting...

…and I am sure Cwyers is spot on with his stats.

Anyway, the Dodger pitching staff is not nearly as effective away from home, while their hitters are about the same home or away.

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by MPH73 on Sep 29, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True that...

Lowe has been awsome lately, with a Sept. ERA of 0.59. But his road ERA is 4.42 this year, so I like our chances.

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by Bump Bailey on Sep 29, 2008 3:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction

With Kuroda minus Kershaw, the ERA becomes 3.54.

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um I hate to mention this

But it is Kurada minus Maddux not Kernshow.

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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I looked it up

I saw this article and it says that Kershaw has been sent to the bullpen. From the article it sounds like if they go a fourth game, it’ll either be Lowe on short rest or Maddux.

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 3:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm....

I think I would rather face Maddux than Lowe on short rest…

"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 29, 2008 3:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

The thing that worries me about Lowe on short rest is the fact that he’s a sinker ball pitcher. I know it’s not easy to be sharp on three days rest, but less rest might actually make Lowe better. Get a little more sink on that ball….

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 3:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In that case

Marquis should pitch every day. Haha.

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 29, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

Yes, probably should. But you know what I mean, I think. i don’t think short rest affects a guy who relies on his movement to get outs as much as a guy who relies on spotting his straight four-seam fastball.

by rambler19 on Sep 29, 2008 3:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, absolutely I agree with you.

Plus, a guy like Lowe (who was in those PRETTY big games for the Red Sox in ’04) probably would be so amped to pitch that the adrenaline would get him through any fatigue issues…

"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 29, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Maddux, definitely

His post-season numbers have always suffered due to short rest. When he was pitching in the post-season for the Braves, I just refused to watch any game he started on less than four days’ rest. A lot of Braves fans would wonder how I knew the Braves were going to lose that particular game.

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by Clutch16 on Sep 29, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting tid bit

If the Dodgers were in the Central they would have finished 5th! The NL Central is pretty dern good. Cubs better roll over them. Manny doesn’t scare me.

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by cubbie-swagger on Sep 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN has their series page up

Already prolly mentioned, but one more link to it can’t hurt.

All 5 “experts” pick the Cubs.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

Didn’t Gammons say the Dodgers would upset?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He must not be cool enough to make the front page of predicitons

Rob Neyer continues his love for us.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He wants the Phillies to win it all

I think he knows the Cubs can beat them. So he just picks them to not be an issue for Philly.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And,

I think he wants Boston to win it all. They all do over there in Bristol.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space. That day appears to be near.

by chilango2 on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course!

Like the coining of the phrase “Dynasty” and such junk…

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space. That day appears to be near.

by chilango2 on Sep 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's living vicariously through the '08 Phillies

since he choked when he made his WS appearance with the Phils.

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steve Phillips I presume?

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skeev Phillips is a panty sniffer

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ad hominem argument...

A better argument would be how he gave large contracts to aging veterans like Mo Vaughn, Roberto Alomar, Pedro Astacio, Mike Bordick, Bobby Bonilla, Rickey Henderson, Kenny Rogers, Jeromy Burnitz and Kazuo Matsui.

Hmmm….the guy is a genius….

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by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I turned the TV off last night when I saw him say that.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space. That day appears to be near.

by chilango2 on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course he picked them

three former Bosox (Nomar, Manny, Lowe) to feed his Boston woody.

Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW...

… the Dodgers have three ex-Cubs, too: Nomar, Maddux, Juan Pierre.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but he doesn't have

a Cubs woody, only a Boston woody.

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by tony412 on Sep 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the law of distribution

Nomar cancels out

Sorry bad math joke.

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was told there would be no math here!

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate it more when the results don't!

To hell with the expert predictions. Let’s Go Cubs!!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of the experts

Picked the Cubs over DBacks last year (IIRC)

by gocubsgo22 on Sep 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

you had to go there huh?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Sep 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for reminding us. :-)

It allows me to visit my “inner hell” again…

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was last year.

this is not.

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stayed up all night after Game Three

Getting swept + bad fish ‘n’ chips for dinner = sheer agony

Never, but NEVER, put ketchup on a hot dog.

by CaliCub on Sep 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did the same thing..

Although I basically starred at the tv for most of the time while drinking a lot of beer. I think I watched some college football but i couldn’t tell you who i watched lol

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mizzou played Nebraska that day

We were tailgating all day for the biggest home game of the season. I went back to my room to watch the first 2 innings of game 3. Rich Hill gave up that homer and I don’t think I have ever been so drunk/angry in my life.

Thankfully we beat the Nubs 41-6, tho that hardly made me feel better.

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by nji232 on Sep 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea tailgating that day would have helped bunches.

but my girlfriends parents were in town (Illannoy fans) and that weekend the Hawks lost to Penn St, Green Bay lost to Chi on sunday night (i’m sure most of you on here weren’t bummed but i was) and the cubs got swept. One of the worst sports weekends of my life..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

…that was a long day…It was so damn hot, too.

"Chase Daniel has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly." Pat Forde, ESPN

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of sheer agony

the next time I say I want pepperoni pizza, someone stop me. Yeesh.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hot snakes?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm on fire, baby.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Sep 29, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget Steve Phillips

ran the Mets into the ground.

“Genius” he is not.

by The E-Man on Sep 29, 2008 10:29 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Omar Minaya has done SO much better for them.

I mean, look at all the NL pennants and World Series he has won.

Oh, wait.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the other Omar.

He’s got to be the worst GM in the league. Glad he’s there. Between him and Cashman this year aren’t they 0 postseason for around $330 million of payroll?

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Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, Jim Bowden is the worst GM in the league.

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by Al on Sep 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure about that. If he had some money to work with, things might have been different.

There’s a good article about him and the Lerners in the Washington Post today. What a crappy owner, sorta like Philip K. Wrigley, but much worse.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

However, he has been questioned in the scout skimming 'scandal'

And if Bowden is tied to that in any way, shape or form, I’d say he’s up for worst GM

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by Trey2317 on Sep 29, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope he's up for jail time also, albeit unlikely....

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, Al is right. I haven't been keeping up with Bowden apparently

Check out the Wikipedia article about him. Wow.

Bowden’s poor reputation has spread to other general managers. San Diego Padres General Manager Kevin Towers in 2005 said of Bowden, “The guy’s an idiot. I won’t take his calls, and I don’t think many others do.”

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like Wikipedia vandalism

there’s no source given. You should have seen the Bob Hope wiki page awhile back — pure adolescent graffitti was inserted into the lengthy article in several places.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point. Maybe I should be more careful about quoting Wikipedia.

But in science and math the articles are very well-written and discussed.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My favorite Wiki "alterations" would have to be those done

to Marty Brennaman’s page last year. They were removed within about 48 hours—but they were hilarious. Something about a feminine hygeine product?

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

by cubfever7 on Sep 29, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What astounds me is

they’re talking contract extension for him!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or got them to a world series...

and was in office when they drafted/signed Reyes/Wright

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is going to be so nerve-racking...

… I think the liquor store down the street just painted in a ‘reserved space’ for me. Awfully nice of them.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel your pain.

I had baseball dreams all night. The wait is tough, but the games will be so tense for me. I can’t learn to relax, and I just feel my blood pressure rising; by Wednesday , it’ll be a healthy 160/100.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space. That day appears to be near.

by chilango2 on Sep 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I become a pretty nervous, obsessive guy when the Cubs are in the playoffs

Not good for my system. :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The other night I dreamed I was with the Cubs

And I was put in as a pinch runner, and I missed a hit and run signal, and I was out. I felt really stupid. After the game I was hanging out with Geo, and he was in a wheelchair.

I think that sums up my baseball stress right there…

by daeviant on Sep 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. I think you need a drink.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you missed the sign, how were you out? Doesn't that mean you didn't run?

Or did you think the H&R was on and it wasn’t?

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by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are all going to be complete wrecks

Have the expectations ever been this high? I can think of one other time, and I don’t want to talk about it! Anyway, if the Cubs have success we will all be flying higher than we can imagine. If they fail, well I think we have been through worse.

"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus

by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The best part of the season to me

I’m as guilty as the next fan of often focusing too much on the ultimate goal the team is trying to reach rather than simply savoring each game as it is played. The best part of this season to me is that there were so many great, well-played games throughout the season. This was very different than ’03 and ’04 when, frankly, the team played some mediocre baseball for much of the season before turning it on and it was almost as if, especially in 2004, the team won in spite of itself.

This team is very, very different from those teams, and maybe any other Cubs team since 1989 – a season I felt as a fan was very similar to this one. Go Cubs!

by BeltwayCubsFan on Sep 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2004 team

..didn’t make the playoffs.

by bikemonkey on Sep 29, 2008 9:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about the .300 seasons from:

Theriot, Fontenot, and Reed Johnson. That’s pretty cool. I can’t remember the cubs having 3 regulars who hit .300. Fontenot actually finished with a team-high in OPS, at .909 (if you take out the limited sample from Hoffpauir). Zambrano’s batting line was pretty damn amazing too. And of course, seeing 6 20-hr guys on the roster at once is also pretty sweet.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Sep 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The reality of the post season is that

I think we all feel confident that our pitching (overall) will be good enough to win each series. The hope is that our offense doesn’t enter into any multi-game funks.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nail on the head

Note to the Cubs Offense: Play for the single and the rest will take care of itself. Please Please Please do not try to win the world series with every at bat. Aram you are awesome, please don’t get yank happy, D lee, little singles to right field and the world will open up for you. Sori, just be hot when it counts, I have no idea what else to say to you, you won’t listen anyway.

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by graceunderpressure on Sep 29, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The one thing that makes me less nervous . . .

Is that I believe they are determined to meet higher goals. I don’t think there will be panic . . . other than from us!

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 29, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's weird, but the Cubs are the most experienced team in the NL playoffs (they could be tied with Philly)

and I think last year’s defeat served a purpose for the team throughout the year and will carry them through the playoffs.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I completely agree

They’re on a mission.

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by Shanghai Badger on