Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Wednesday 9/3, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 PM CDT
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Think of it this way. The Cubs have won seven of their last 11 games, in this sequence:
WWWWWWWLLLL
What if those 11 games had gone:
WWWLWWLLWWL
You wouldn't be so worried then, would you?
There's a chance of rain tonight, but they had better get tonight's game in, because even though both the Cubs and Astros are off tomorrow, we are supposed to get the remnants of Hurricane Gustav in the Chicago area tomorrow, with heavy rain and wind.
In the meantime, there were actually a few things from last night's game worth memorializing with a photo:
Brandon Backe being taken out by Cecil Cooper in the 5th. Cooper almost had to yank the ball out of Backe's hand.
Jim Edmonds leaping and missing a catch on Hunter Pence's drive in the 6th. When he came down, a BP ball came out of the ivy.
Casey McGehee's ML debut announced on the message board. Not-So-Mighty Casey struck out.
A fan in the bleacher boxes throws back Geoff Blum's 11th inning HR ball
Click on photos to open a larger version in a new browser window. All photos by David Sameshima
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Above are Wolf's numbers with the Astros only; see the pitcher box for his combined full season stats.
And even though most of the current Cubs haven't hit Wolf that well -- the best are Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez, both .250 with 1 HR -- Wolf has a 2-6, 4.98 lifetime record in 13 starts vs. the Cubs and 1-4, 5.36 at Wrigley Field, including being hit early and often earlier this year when he was with the Padres, eight hits and seven runs in four innings, including a HR by Alfonso Soriano.
Ryan Dempster pitched on Tornado Day, August 4, and gave up two runs in five innings and had to be removed after the long rain delay. Two weeks earlier, he threw eight shutout innings against the Astros in Houston. Lance Berkman has homered off him four times in 43 career AB.
Today's game is on CSN and FSN Houston. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 7 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CT.
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"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I like how in the Best Starts By Cub Teams Since 1900 chart
2008 is sandwiched in right between 1908 and 1969.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Don't really need our help
It’s 9-2 in the top of the 9th.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Crap
I probably just jinxed it.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
both teams have lousy pens
so maybe it’s all good.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Big Z News?
Anyone hear any radio reports in Chicago or anything today about Big Z yet?
Let's hope no news is good news
Maybe 1-2 missed starts and he comes back strong for the final two weeks of the season.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Sep 3, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Edmonds was really
in the air after that ball in the ivy.
Good luck tonight Dempster. Let’s get this team rolling in the right direction.
Yeah, for an old guy...
Jimmy’s got some hops!!!
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Sep 3, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Time to get a win.
Keep that offense rolling from last night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
And the magic number is now 19
NY 9, MIL 2
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
FWIW
BCB had 599 comments for the Mets-Brewers game, while Evil BCB had 146.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
thats funny
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
and sad
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I was trying to think
of some jab to take at the Brewer fans, but just posting those numbers was all I could come up with.
When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo
thats kinda sad
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, we win.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
SWL update the Magic # yet?
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 3, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Yes.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Me likey. Thanks.
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 3, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Only because you said please.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Se do bheatha
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that a Vivid DVD title?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Demps is on tonight...
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
With Milwaukee's loss
and a day off tomorrow, it would be nice to see the Cubs roll in a laugher tonight. Looking for DeLee and Soto to have big games tonight…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Sep 3, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: Iowa Cubs playoff call-ups
Jake Fox, Sam Fuld, Rocky Roquet and Wellington Castillo will join the Iowa Cubs (link – it’s at the bottom)
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Rocky Roquet?
Is that Rah-Key or Rah-Kay or Rah-Coo? I hope Rocky’s his nickname, not his parent’s doing…
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
that should free up
Felix Pie.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Sep 3, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I just pray for no Howry
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
We're saving him for the Cardinal series.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 3, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you mean Lou is going to drop Howry on Tony.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 3, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Howry might've overtaken
Cedeno on the swearing scale.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
40 is the new 30...
…blue is the new black…and “Howry!” is the new “Cedeno!”
Stay hip, people.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
I agree
but then is 35 the new 25? Howry if he pitches tonight might reach above Cedeno and create level of cursing
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Or
L
Mike+Milton+Eamus Catuli = AC000000
by Cub's Paperboy on Sep 3, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit
He’s still employed?
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
haven't seen anything to the contrary yet
but i’ve been looking…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
laundry done?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
nope
:-P
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
no time like the present
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought you were staying away today anyway?
:-)
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I did until almost 3
thought you were also :)
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i was following the brewer game anyway
so i jumped into the thread…. and somehow followed it here.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I got to Brewers thread about 3 ish
I actually got most of my errands done this afternoon.
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Shanghai needs to show up, too
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Have no fear
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 3, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
And HBCG was around on the game thread with me til about midnight!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Does her father know?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
YES, he kept on coming down to the basement and checking on us.
We stayed one couch-cushion apart.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
haha
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
does galvan know?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's to a great & efficient game by Dempster tonight.
BTW, can Howry be a call down to Iowa?
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
why would you punish the people of Des Moines like that?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
That's would be an interesting bit of strategey...for next year!
We send Howry down to Des Moines and he will artificially inflate the opponents offensive numbers, which could lead to some players getting called up that really aren’t that good. This would weaken the teams we play and Howry could end up actually HELPING us again!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Couldn't St. Louis just pick him up in the off-season?
Or Milwaukee?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
that way Sue can go get him
Maybe then he’ll take his Howry Cow shirt….
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I started to say that you'd jump him...
but I knew that’d get twss’d. :-P
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So Im thinking Dempster goes 7 strong tonight
Guzman and Shark come on to finish it up.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
I could see Shark
I doubt they’ll throw Guzman – he hasn’t tossed in back-to-back games all year. I hope for Lieber or Cotts – that means the Cubs will be up a lot.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Even though I trashed him too early last night
Wuertz is back and he can go back to back days. We will prolly see him if needed tonight
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
How about a 90-pitch CG by Demp?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 3, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
works for me
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds good to me
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
I was hoping for something in the low 30s for a pitch count.
but other than that, this sounds great.
Where do I sign up?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
27 pitches to get 27 outs would be ideal.
But I’d take a 90-pitch CG, I guess.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
They should cut Howry
’s throat.
(no, for real, I think Bobby’s in Eyre-land now)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
Hey Nineteen!
No we can’t dance together
No we can’t talk all
Please take me along when I slide on down!
From Steely Dan’s Gaucho and now currently the Cubs magic number
Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nineteen!
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Sep 3, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: Random Drawing for Tix
Just got an email, maybe most of you did too, but in case you didnt:
Go ahead, Z me.
You are a real stitch, you know that.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 3, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Analogy
Nice analogy, Al, about the WWWLWWLLWWL
To be the devil’s advocate, however, imagine you’re flying on a plane. It’s taken a few bumps, but it continues to fly forward for the most part. Compare that to a plane you’re on that just takes a straight dive down. A different story, and you’re not going to feel better if the pilot tells you, “Don’t worry – for 7 of the past 11 minutes we were flying straight ahead with no problem.”
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
Al is the man....
trust me. You’ll be happier if you just blindly follow him….JOIN US….JOOOOIIIINNNN UUUUUSSSS!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Aside from the fact that this is ya know... a game...
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Throttles-idle,
Speed brakes-out,
Pull hard so the houses get smaller, but not too hard because they will get big again or the wings will rip off, so let’s not panic, what do you think this is 2008-39 or something?
Let’s get some runs!!!! early and often for Demp.
Mike+Milton+Eamus Catuli = AC000000
by Cub's Paperboy on Sep 3, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that 4 straight losses call for the normal landing checklist.
I’d look at “stall recovery procedures” first, THEN worry about the landing.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
This is not a stall
This is, at best, rerouting—deviation of 20 degrees due to weather. At worst, heavy chop and a request for FL370.
Sorry for being a nerd.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Just remember
This plane has had some problems with smooth landings in the past, most recently in October of last year but also in 2004 and before that in 2003. Of course, the 2003 and 2004 turbulence occurred with a different pilot at the throttles.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
What's the official code for a "Howry" on the weather briefings, anyway?
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
Not only that, you don't look at a checklist during a stall -- there's no time.
You’ve got to KNOW what to do!
Lower the angle of attack, throttle in, wait for a positive VSI and climbing altimiter, remove first notch of flaps (if applicable).
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 3, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, true enough.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
ANything yet
Any news on Big Z? I expect something might break after 400 ish with the reporters hitting the ballpark.
Go Cubs
See Below....
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Sep 3, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Al
could you please remove the poll on the right side of the front of the page that asks how the Philles series will end after we were up 2 games to none? I’m not really superstitus but it bothers that we haven’t won since it was put up.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
You should get some ointment for that superstitus.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
Sounds painful..
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
My brother had a problem with his superstitus once
Poor guy couldn’t sit down for a week.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
According to Gordon's Twitter Page
Z to have MRI on shoulder but results not expected today. Look for him to miss Sunday’s start for sure. Hart called up
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
Link to the twitter if you care
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Sep 3, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
THanks!
Knock on wood it’s just precautionary. They may have something in the pregame at least though.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 3, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope it's Hart to the pen...
…Marshall in the rotation, not Hart starting.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Wilbon on PTI made a good point
“I’m resisting panic. [about the Cubs/Z] I think some of this could be a good thing. I think they were starting to cruise a little”
maybe this will give us a kick in the ass and get us going…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
That's right. They don't want to peak too soon. Know what I mean?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 3, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
twss
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
A theory along the line of an NCAA Basketball team losing in the final of their conference tourney for motivation? I’m truly sorry, but I’ve never liked that theory.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
HBCG is not theorizing
just stating a possible silver lining out of this mess and that it was mentioned on PTI
Go ahead, Z me.
I think you need to get knocked down once before the play offs start
Because you’re not going to sail through….
If we can weather this… we can do it. Just can we?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
okay
WILL we?
its time for the big boys to step up and carry the team for a while…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It's still early
but there could be some rain disruptions/delays: Radar
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Hopefully the Cubs are smart about it
They are in control of the start time. They can choose to delay the start time w/o interferance from the umpires. The umpiring crew does not take over control of the game until the game actually starts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_delay#Baseball
I would hope they would delay enough the start to ensure that demp gets as many innings as he can. It will be painful to start the game and then have to stop it 2 innings later since demp probably would not come back out.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Sep 3, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice pictures as always...
…but it’s a shame David didn’t get a shot of that mystery ball falling out of the ivy.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
That was pretty cool.
I had to watch it a dozen times on DVR. It couldn’t have been there too long as it looked as white as the game ball.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
we need a blowout
from our offense tonight. score early often and save our pen. then find out both harden and big z are gonna be ok. then a good off day.
from the mouth of Uecker:
"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."
I think Harden is fine they just want to give him some rest
The national media made up an injury for him today just to make things seem worse
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
Think J-Mac plays this week?
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I saw both him and Willy Mo wandering campus today
Name dropping i know. JMac was limping at little, but I think he will be fine. Moore was in a boot and limping bad, so we may not see him this week.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
I hope Willy Mo's
injury does not effect his ability to drive around in his sweet ass car…M-I-Z!
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 3, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay folks
I’m heading to bed. I hate these late starts. Sue, Emelie, gang, make sure I wake up to good news!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
long as it's W who cares LOL
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope the trolls are out tonight
I’m hungry.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Great to see a stopper on the mound tonight
Really need a win. Lets hope if Z goes down we can have him back by the playoffs.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
Here‘s accuscores take on Z’s injury.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
Edmonds is supposedly texting FSN Midwest again
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
HUH?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I think it was about a month ago the Cardinal guys were talking about how Edmonds was texting them during the game
Guess he is doing it again today.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
I'm staying out of that
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Rather
Have him in a game then Howry…
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 3, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
sep16 star wars?
go to the cubs schedule on the cubs page and there is a pic of darth vader on the sep16th game… i guess all the teams have that…
a quick google shows some star wars game is coming out that day. will we see yoda on third base across the majors?
i hate bud selig.
The cubs had it
For Inidana Jones too.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Bud Selig looks like Yoda.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 3, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't going to help the panic much:
cst_cubs Lou drops a ‘discomfort’ when describing Harden’ skipped start. Raises stakes-and eyebrows-for next start, Wed. @ StL. less than a minute ago from txt
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
thats weird
how did the cross out happen?
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be
arrr…
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently
It’s just a precaution. Lets all just take a few deep breathes.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets test it
Emelie is the worst best Cubs fan around.
Okay, got it. the “-” is a formatting code on SBN to do strikeouts. That’s why it happened in your post
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
thanks.
that was weird.
get some sleep, buddy. hope you wake up to good news.
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea yeah...
I should of gone to bed like I said I was going to. I’m leaving now mom hbcg!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
not trying to get rid of you
i just forgot to say goodnight up there and am too lazy to scroll up and say it up there. :-P
The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 3, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
The new glitch
happened to me when I put something in parentheses.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
(something)
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
and that's why people were panicing
Hendry’s Cubs have been notorious for minimizing/hiding injuries.
Hopefully it’s nothing.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 3, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
My theory on Howry:
Hendry insists on Lou putting Howry on the post season roster. So Lou keeps putting him out there to blow games until Hendry walks in his office and and says, “OK I get it, Howry is off the October roster.”
I think Lou has given up on Howry. Now he is trying to prove it to his bosses. I hope last night did the trick. That should be the last important game that Howry pitched.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Idunno man
seems rather unprofessional to me. Howry is a veteran who’s pitched well for years and has earned respect from his peers. I don’t think Lou would do such thing.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I said it wrong.
It is not that Lou or any of us want Howry to blow games, obviously. But Lou has to put Howry into pressure situations for him to succeed or fail until his bosses see that he is more likely to fail than succeed.
I think the answer is now clear enough that the test period is officially concluded. I hope Lou can end the Howry experiment. Hopefully between the Shark, Marshall and September call up we can fill the roster out (with those names who were eligible as of 9/1, obviously).
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Line-up is out:
LF 12 SORIANO
SS 2 THERIOT
1B 25 LEE
3B 16 RAMIREZ
RF 7 DEROSA
CF 9 JOHNSON
2B 5 CEDENO
SP 46 DEMPSTER
Jimmyeatworld
Only 8 men left after all the arm injuries?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
in order to go 9 innings, Dempster is placing the ball
on a moving rubber tee tonight (t-ball). No need for a catcher. The Cubs are trying something new.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
I thought maybe all three catchers were new tenants in Lou's d**house
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I like what I see, will be a lot of passed balls without a catcher tho
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
We can still beat this team with 8 players
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
plus I dont know if I trust Dempster to call the whole game by himself
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Dempster is Canadian
So he would be forced to pitch with using the metric system without Soto
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
My brain just exploded
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
and all of his pitches have to travel more than
18.4404 meters instead of 60.5 feet
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean instead of 60' 6"
that .5 is suspiciously metrical.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Line-up is out:
Ok, let’s try this…
LF 12 SORIANO
SS 2 THERIOT
1B 25 LEE
3B 16 RAMIREZ
C 18 SOTO
RF 7 DEROSA
CF 9 JOHNSON
2B 5 CEDENO
SP 46 DEMPSTER
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 3, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Even better
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
nice, now I really like what i see
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
twss
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 3, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS:
C.C. Sabathia threw a 1-hitter earlier in the week.
The fact that that is breaking news is quite the oxymoron. lol
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
THIS JUST IN:
The earth goes around the sun.
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Think of his grandchildren
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This is clearly sexist!
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, that's twice now
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
guess we won't be getting Kerry his no-hitter
oh well
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
holy horsecrap
Carlos Zambrano, who left Tuesday’s loss after the fifth inning, met with Cubs orthopedist Stephen Gryzlo at 1p.m. But Zambrano did not show for his scheduled MRI after that meeting.
The MRI has been re-scheduled for Thursday.
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
WTF!?!
No really…WTF!?! is going on?
Z is blowing off MRI’s now? Has his head now screwed it self off? I will not talk about his team from the past but the year this team played is also a sexual position yet it seems only the Cubs got screwed that year. But his year that shall not be mentioned is coming to mind right now and I don’t like it one bit.
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you just did
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 3, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
"Z being Z" is catchier
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
There is no Dana there is only Zool
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone else here Z missed his scheduled MRI and can't be found
just heard that on the radio in chicago.
Check the Sears Tower!
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Another blown save for STL
3-3 tie in the ninth
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
Damn
I wanted AZ to lose again.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
D-Bags win 4-3
Cardinals Fail
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
Cub Killer responsible, too
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I have no problem admitting I wanted the Cards to win
Don’t want the D-Bags in the playoffs. That being said I’m not crying about this blown save.
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
Would it be possible to not let Newhan and Quintero beat us today?
Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #6 1-0 (0-0). Next up Saturday home vs. SEMO. We might drop 100 points on them.
What if the Cubs had lost every one of their games
and then won their last 85. We’d be singing a different tune, huh?
It’s not the losing four in a row that has me worried. It’s that Lee and Fukudome can’t hit the ball higher than three feet off the ground and that the pitching is suddenly showing signs of severe problems both health and effectiveness wise.
More official news on Harden
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1143310,harden090308.article
It comfirms he has discomfort. Let’s just start scoring more runs and hope these guys can pitch sooner than later.
Sick to my stomach...
they have been indeed lying about injuries. Thought they wouldn’t do that anymore.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Pushed enter too soon
We don’t know the whole story. Z and Harden might not be telling Lou and everyone else the truth…
Yeah
Thus lying. I know nobody in the organization has mind-(or body-)reading powers, but still feels bad.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
My theory
If you were hurt, an Ace on the first place team, would you want to share an injury that could shut you down? We all know Z would never want to do that. We don’t know Harden that well but I could guess he was offered to skip a start and took Cubs up on the offer from undisclosed discomfort.
I just threw-up in my mouth
a little bit.
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Rotation,travel plans & Maddux
I have had almost no real internet for a week being in LA on vacation and our office
e mail has been off for TWO DAYS so other than my anti-Lou rant i have not had time to post and only read a little . Here is some rotation tidbits that may or may not have been mentioned.
We will NOT face Volquez in the Cinci series
Padres have revamped the rotation so now instead of the CC Vs Peavy match up it
will be CC Vs Rookie with one MLB start ( Geery) but it does mean Peavy Vs Sheets so works for me. The long anticipated return of our old friend Shaun Estes will be tomorrow Vs Suppan. GOOD luck
I took the plunge today and used my long saved airline miles to get a ticket for the first
two games of the playoffs which means that had better be at Wrigley. I have hold till Monday for a plane ticket to Chicago first two games of round 2.
Monday I was a Dodger Stadium watching Madog get 354 and it was like old times He scared the hell out of me by giving up 3 straight hits and a run to start the game ( Manny makes Sori look like a Gold Glover) but then returned to form. He gave up two in 5 2/3rds but Torre should have left him in for the final out of the inning. He ALSO hadan RBI single ( and not a blooper) had a nice hard slide into 2nd on a force to break up a double play and 3 wonderful put outs. I am not generally fond of Dodger fans but they truly LOVE HIM so I will cut them some slack.
Home to land of no internet ( but EI to watch Cub games)
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Just saw Lou's
pregame interview and he was pretty grumpy. I kind of hope Demp can pitch a cg tonight. I don’t want to see Howry tonight, not even in the dugout.
+1
+1
+1
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Z Down - Harden Down
New Starting rotation:
Dempster
Lilly
Marquis – Yes he would be our third starter
Marshal
Shark/Gadiun/AAA Starter?
Can this pitching rotation win 13 of the next 25?
We will see
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions
Not often but if there was ever a time....
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Link?
Or is this just speculation on your part?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Are either officially on the DL or jusr rumors?
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Niether are on the DL and won't be because of the 40 man rosters
But Z is hurting and so is Harden. If they are out this is what our rotation will look like.
Gadiun is having back issues, too.
Keep on a happy face but Lou is not happy and i don’t care what you want to think but:
THIS IS NOT GOOD!
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing official...
that I know of, is that Z will miss his next scheduled start on Sunday.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I'm going to Cincy for all three games..
Going to see Lilly, Marquis, and Marshall! Hope they step it up!!
The last 4 games it has been our offense
that has lost us the game…So why worry too much right now about the pitching…Neither are on the DL. Get the DAMN bats going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did the best offense in baseball go????
Prespective =
San Diego at Milwaukee next four games:
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Sep 3, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Where is lou?
That call at home was total crap. That umpire should be hanged for that!
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