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Z: Rotator Cuff Tendinitis, WILL pitch again

The Sun-Times reports:

Carlos Zambrano has undergone an MRI today on his right arm, and Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he has rotator cuff tendinitis and if things go well will pitch in Houston during the series between Sept. 12-14.

The Cubs' right-hander was supposed to take the exam yesterday, but he couldn't do it because of family reasons.

Everyone take a deep breath. He'll be back. Life has not ended.

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Same thing as before...

…and it sounds like he got some cortisone to calm things down. Now, he needs to give it absolute rest for a while to let that baby get better.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing two to three weeks

I’ve had a cortisone shot twice, once in 1984 that shelved me for 3 weeks of the season and again last summer for nagging midle-age man ankle problem. Miracle stuff, but it takes time to come back. I hope the Cubs shutdown Zambrano completely for two weeks.

by MDBNIU on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they DL'ed him

they could bring him back on the 18th, in the middle of the Milwaukee series. Plus, he’d then be set up to pitch the last game of the year against Milwaukee (if it mattered), or skipped to set up a playoff rotation.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no point in DL'ing him with the rosters expanded...

unless the want to make a point of keeping him from pitching before he is ready.

My guess is that Z stays on the active roster

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No need for a DL with a 40 man roster

Unless Lou fears he’ll threaten to take the mound on his own…

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well he is a big boy.

but you’re right, there’s really no need for it.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN 1000

reported he missed it because of a ‘family issue’

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His car was in the players parking lot...

…I’m telling ya, he was at the bar

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard

Someone told me they heard him and his wife are expecting. Perhaps they had an appointment?

She didn’t appear pregnant at the bowling event.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many babies

can Cubs players HAVE in a year??? Geo, then Sori…

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have an odd visual of the Cub players

offseason training regimen…

7:30 am Breakfast
8:00 am Lift
10:00 am Run
11:30 am Impregnate Wife/Girlfriend
12:30 am Lunch
etc.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's also the NBA regimen...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minus...

the wife/girlfriend tidbit.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Sep 4, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

In the NBA, wife divided by girlfriend seems like the normal math.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 5, 2008 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do they need an hour for that?

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know how it works in your house....

In mine, the first 45 mins is the begging.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ryan Theriot

doesn’t beg. But sometimes, he pees on the floor, so keep your rolled up newspaper handy.

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm, so he's scrappy...

and kinky. Interesting.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excuse me gentlemen...

there is only room for ONE kinky individual here. I resemble that comment.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 5, 2008 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

There’s a post I won’t show my wife (or it’ll be upped from 45 minutes to an hour).

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 4, 2008 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didnt ARam wife also have one?

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 4, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yeah.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes but

From what I heard on the radio she has one every year….

by ak123 on Sep 4, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as I speculated

He’ll miss a start or two, then come back and dominate at the right place at the right time!

Fingers crossed

"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then I'd have all my money back."
-Jack Handey

by deepthoughtsbyjackhandey on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really Really Really Good News!

….I think they should rest him longer….but then again I am not a Doctor, I only play one on BCB…

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

…especially considering this is what shelved him earlier this season. I have had this same type of tendinitis and I tried to come back within a week after one cortisone shot and it flared back up again. I got a second one and was fine within 10 days. Every case is different, but since this has flared up twice this season, I don’t like the fact they are talking about him pitching by next weekend – which means he will be throwing on the side 2-3 times before than.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way. What's your record?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

?????

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Were you a pitcher, MPH?

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 4, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope...

…played mostly OF.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow girl... You are on top of it. I just heard this 5 minutes ago on the Score.

Good news. Good news. People need to realize that the suits aren’t misleading us, rather they are doing exactly what they said they were going to do with Harden when they acquired him- start from the end of the season, and work backwards- babying him as they go along. Now they are doing it with both Zambrano & Harden- not a bad thing. I want both of their arms rested and ready come post season.

This team hasn’t peaked yet. Which is a good thing. I have no doubt they will begin to peak in a couple of weeks & carry it into the postseason. Lou’s got a good handle on things. These last five wins don’t worry me, it just means that there is no where to go but up. Good news, good news…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 4, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I pulled up the Times website and this was in bright red

on the top… Figured it was still relatively new so I posted it here.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting this.

While this isn’t great, I think he’ll be just fine. As long as he rests till the Houston series — 10 days away — I think this is a huge relief.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem, Al.

Considering all the alternatives, this is about the best possible news. A few weeks off and then a fresh, determined Z for the stretch run. Could’ve been so much worse.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Didn’t we hear that about five weeks ago when he came off the DL? He’s fresh and rested and ready for the playoff run? After a couple of good outings, it was back downhill and now he’s out again. I’m still very concerned.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 4, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a couple of good outings?

wasn’t it five?

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, that is a good point.

The fact that Z is being shut down for the second time this season can’t be good. I just hope they can finesse him through the end of the season and, we hope, the playoffs and figure out how to mitigate his arm problems long-term during the off-season.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct...

…tendinitis is like the gift that keeps on giving if you don’t nip it in the bud and do the proper things to keep it at bay.

I’m not saying this is the case with Z, but sometimes they have to go in there (for guys with chronic tendinitis) and clean out some of the calcification etc. and give the cuff structure a little more room to operate without friction.

Hopefully, he gets it right and is on top of his game in a few weeks.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

that he had the cortisone shot the first time. That should help in the short but won’t fix the problem long term

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all the Cubs need are a few good outings the rest of the year

1-3 in the regular season (depending on rehab and the division race), plus 1-2 in NLDS, 1-2 in NLCS and 1-3 in that other series.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand corrected

He did have more than a couple good outings. Thanks for pointing that out. However, my concern is still there, because after the good outings, he did go downhill again.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 5, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can stop hitting refresh now.

breathe. breathe. good. we’re good to go. 2008 baby. let’s do this.

also- does it seem to anyone else like the traffic has been down recently? Wondering if the issue from a week or so ago was continuing on BCB.

by Canseco's Roid Party on Sep 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank's

Now I have a long walk down the stairs of the Sears Tower instead of a quick leap

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

halfblindcubbiegirl....

you bring me GREAT NEWS!!!! Will you Marry me? :-P j/k

by bleed that blue on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What I find interesting is the AP's Take on this

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3569470

In the first paragraph, it is a blow to our chances for the WS. But two sentences later, they talk about he will probably be back in two weeks. Do they have interns write this stuff

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just saw that too and had the same thoughts...

….they have to sensationalize everything. I am surprised they didn’t find a way to mention a goat in the story as well.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent news but...

I was on ESPN.com when I saw the little report and I pulled up the blurb and it said:

CHICAGO — Chicago Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano has right rotator cuff tendinitis and inflammation, an MRI confirmed, a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century. Zambrano received a shot of anti-inflammatory medication and hopes to return to the rotation next week. General manager Jim Hendry said Zambrano is to start throwing again when the team begins a series in St. Louis on Sept. 10

Uhm…. so why exactly is this a “blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”? Does anyone else get the feeling they wrote the story before knowing what was wrong with Z?

by hmlee on Sep 4, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jinx...beat ya by 2 minutes

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

so you did!

by hmlee on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who wrote that, Downey?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yost...

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Rosenbloom

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that dbag is still writing?

who knew!

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Mr. dbag to you.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blogging only, but yeah

Giving the Trib’s blogs that much more credibility . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get the idea that the national media is looking for any cracks in the armor...

Saying, “a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”, is merely hyperbole.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's fashionable to play on the

“Here they go again” angle. It’s really tiring. Those hacks never seem to get enough of it.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the ap? engaging in hyperbole?

why. i’m shocked. that never happens.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Earlier this year

Carlos looked strong after a stint on the DL: in 6 starts (until the August problems), he was 4-1 with 40.1 IP and a 1.79 ERA, 11 BB, 30 K. More detailed info here

I’d take those numbers in the postseason and down the stretch this year.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I didn’t have the numbers handy, but I was remembering how awesome he was on the 4th of July in STL when he came off the DL.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 IP, 4 H, 0 R

he set the tone for the series.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

it was an ace performance.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is probably the best thing that

could have happened to him. If he had struggled through that game, he probably would have made his next scheduled start and might have really damaged something. Now they can sit him down, let him get some rest and come back strong and healthy. If it were me, I would only pitch him in couple of innings until the playoff unless it was absolutely necessary.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this creates a huge opportunity...

…for Sean Marshall to step up and give this team some quality innings. I don’t think we can expect Sean to equal Carlos, but if he can keep the team in games and contribute to some wins, he can pave the way for Big Z to rejoin the staff very late in the season, if necessary, or definitely come playoff time.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've stated before that every

quality starting inning the Marshall gets is a plus. I think that he should be a big part of the starting staff for the future. He has a good arm and a good makeup. I would love to see him as our permanent fifth starter.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right on

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he will be come 2009

and this is a great time for him to find some rhythm and prepare to be the long man in the playoffs.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we don't need a long man in the playoff....

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well lately...

i would say it would be easy for Marshall to actually perform better than Z.

I love Marshall’s presence and compsure on the mound.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Sep 4, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he's tall

the ball is that much closer to the plate when he releases it.

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by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A question to ponder

Does his hitting affect this at all? If so, does the team take the stand point to shut him down from hitting (i.e. no batting practice, only allowed to bunt during the game). He is more important to us to pinch and I would perfectly okay with him resting the bat on his shoulder if it could potentially contribute to aggrivating the injury.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*pinch = pitch

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grammar police have the day off.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it were oblique or back injuries

I’d buy into the “hitting is the problem” theory… but its in the shoulder.

Maybe rein him in a bit, protect him from himself, but I don’t think that this is really related.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if it is either

But at this point, if there is any chance it could aggrivate it, I don’t even want to take the chance. He is paid to pitch and not hit.

I don’t know what kind of torque a left handed hitting swing puts on his shoulder (i.e. rotator cuff) so I thought I would pose the question

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No its a good question

Sorry if that read as dismissive.

Hopefully Lou’ll reign him in when he gets back. Just to protect him for a while.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope...it was good

Just expanding on my lack of knowledge in regards to the affect that his hitting has on his shoulder.

Even though in my LL days I was left handed hitting first basemen, my hitting skills ranked up there with Timmy Lupus.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The grammar police do not have the day off!

rein, not reign.

Sorry, just one of my pet peeves (not as bad as lose-loose)

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by berselius on Sep 4, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is your pet peeve a male or female?

I hear they shed a lot in the summer…do you get your professionally groomed?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitting should have...

…zero effect on his throwing motion. This type of tendinitis is flared up with over the shoulder type of movements.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay...so then

at the very least no breaking bats since he tends to lift those over his head prior to the crash down.

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

while were at it, no lifting full gatorade coolers in anger....

…he is a strong man, but that isnt really what you want your ace to be doing….

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His next start

I wonder if his next start is pending where the Cubs actually are in the standings. Meaning if come the Houston series the Cubs are at least 4 games up on the Brewers or (more importantly) 8 or more games up in the wild card if this start would be pushed back again. The Cubs obviously cannot take a playoff spot for granted but if they remain in a position where they’ve got a comfortable lead I could see Piniella and Rothschild continuing to rest Zambrano (and Harden),

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't pitch either unless I absoulutely had to.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But they’ll need a start or two yet this month to be sharp next month.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe just a couple inning tuneup. They've gotten enough work in

this year. I wouldn’t push it too far.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he starts the 18th

he’d get 3 starts in if he threw his last scheduled one on the 28th, if it was needed.

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by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, where have you been, DmL? I haven't seen you forever!

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by dtpollitt on Sep 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

work

The summer is very busy so I have some time to read but little time to post. Things are slowing down now with more admin work and lots of computer time.

by dmlichte on Sep 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decision

Deciding what to do could be a very tough call if the Cubs have a good week now and put some more distance between them and the Brewers who have been losing themselves.

Have to get them some work before the playoffs but then you want them to get rest.

Either way I don’t think the Cubs want Z to even think about baseball this offseason.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Levine on 1000

saying this is a normal injury. He’s seriously downplaying it.

by elgato on Sep 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That;s the difference between a local beat reporter and a national hack.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, the AP is garbage

On many levels.

And in the age of the internet, they are fast becoming obsolete.

by SuperContext on Sep 4, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to be cognizant of the fact that...

…everyone will be playing us HARD thinking we are beaten down and vulnerable. We absolutely need to play like we are fighting from behind in the wildcard race, even though Dan Bernstein just said “these games DONT MATTER”.

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We can now relax, right

Here’s some interesting numbers. What are they? They’re Z’s first 5 starts after his last “layoff” or should I say DL. Not saying DL this time as much as some time off.

GS IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB PIT BF DEC ERA
5 35.1 22 7 7 2 10 28 49 30 542 137 4-1 1.78

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Sep 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you guys gotta turn on 670 AM...

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For what?

What some crap from WSOX?

Not listening but I can tell what’s probably being said.

Crap crap crap. Baloney baloney baloney. Sox are God’s answer to baseball. Fart fart fart.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't get the Score in the office...

Not that I need to year their yammering.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please submit a complete transcript.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now there's a couple of baseball experts.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should we get ozzie

to talk to Z like he did before the all-star break?

by fajita on Sep 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if hammering Fontenot into the dugout floor before each game has caused this irritation.

by worldcupfever on Sep 4, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this might have done it

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my God...

…look where LBR’s right elbow is.

IT’S THE HAMSTER’S FAULT!! GET THE HAMSTER!!! GET THE HAMSTER!!!! (Daver breaks down sobbing.)

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also possible:

Screaming and wildly gesticulating at Theriot.

by worldcupfever on Sep 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So that's why my shoulders are killing me!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here I thought it was only the cause

of my recurring migraines.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The irony is that SWL and Z are saying the same thing:

“Colin says you suck and has the data to prove it”

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Zambrano needs to be shut down, as long as we can keep the Brewers (Astros?) at bay. His health is vital to our success in the playoffs. It’s been proven time and time again that pitching wins championships.

Our goal isn’t to get 100 wins, set a club record for home wins, set a pitcher HR record, etc. I say that he works out regularly, maybe throws a simulated game in place of his projected Houston start, and then start ONE more game this season.

I remember hearing Philips on ESPN last night comparing Zambrano’s situation to that of Curt Schilling’s. The Red Sox shut Schilling down the final month or so of the season. Schilling ended up going 3-0 in the playoffs.

I dunno, I just think that we need to be EXTRA cautious with him AND Harden. With Zambrano and Harden on the top of their games, with Dempster, Lilly and co. following, there is absolutely no reason the Cubs can’t go deep in the playoffs.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be fine with that.

Here’s a question tho:

What happens if Harden’s soreness turns out to be something more? You can’t shut them BOTH down. Which one plays?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have no problem shutting both of them down...

like I said though, as long as we can keep the division at bay. We have tons of pitchers, now, that can start.

Marshall, Gaudin, Lieber?, minor leaguers?

But if Harden is good to go I say he still goes out and pitches.

My proposal would be easier to swallow if the Cubs’ offense was still rolling on all cylinders.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we still have to win games.

Home field advantage will be very big. So, I dunno if they both could sit. Maybe they could platoon?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you shut him down,

how do you count on anything from him in the playoffs.

I’d rather he see action in the regular season and assuming the teams makes the postseason, you know exactly what he can bring.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a professional player....

We aren’t placing him on the DL. Giving him rest isn’t a detriment, plus he could get a start before the playoffs.

Just because he wouldn’t be in the rotation doesn’t mean just sits on his ass in the dugout. He’ll continue to pitch, and stay sound pitching-wise.

I just think that it is in this teams best interest to have him completely healthy, ready to throw 100+ pitches in the playoffs.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

100+ pitches, with EASE.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's also a very emotional player who I see as a different pitcher

when he lacks confidence. Give him a tune up before the playoffs.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True..

I’d say 1 / 2 starts, at most, then a bullpen session.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely right

Shutting him down until the playoffs is not a good decision. He needs to be sharp.

The one time I do remember this working was in 1998, when Wood missed the last month and then was very sharp in his one playoff appearance. But he was only able to go 5 or 6 innings, and the Cubs ended up losing.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 4, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just heard recently...

… that Wood wanted to stay in past the 5th, but Riggleman wouldn’t let him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 4, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rigs really got an unfair rap

He was damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Lynch deserves the blame for not shoring up the rotation. Can’t trade the next Johnny Bench (Pat Cline) to get Randy Johnson . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe as it turned out

When he had to have his elbow reattached the next spring I wonder if Kerry in retrospect should have come back in 98.

I think Al has mentioned he was there the day Kerry threw a ball 200 feet above the catcher’s head walked off the mound in Arizona and a week later had the surgery. I was.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep - I remember that

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be cautious

but give him a start or two, just to make sure the mechanics are squared away before a playoff start.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no justice.

So the Brewers can go out there and throw Sabathia for 9 innings and 432 pitches with no residual effect and Z can go out there for 5-6 innings a start in August and start off September with his shoulder falling off. Grr. Harden has obviously been fun to watch so far, but I hate the prospect of holding my break every time he’s announced for a start the rest of the year.

by worldcupfever on Sep 4, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So which one of your limbs is broken?

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, think of it this way:

Sure. Sabathia goes out and throws lots of complete games, with no residual effect.

But.

We beat him.

We swept them last month.

And we’re still in first place.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

With all this bridge jumping the Brewers lost 3 in a row and last time I looked are losing tonight.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but Harden and Zambrano

should be good to go in October. Sabathia will be exhausted, just like he was last year.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers will learn in October

When Sabathia can’t pitch well that month anyways

by ak123 on Sep 4, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grr.

I hate not having an edit feature on here. I’m not sure how I came up with break instead of breath.

by worldcupfever on Sep 4, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But, this will catch up with Sabathia,

more likely…since he won’t be with the ‘crew next season….they don’t give a damn about his career at all. He’ll pitch till his arm falls off, and Yost won’t care.

If they win….well, great for them. If they don’t…..they may have wrecked a pitcher. If I was a GM, I’d sure think long and hard about signing him — and I wouldn’t give him over three years….

I guess possibly screwing around with a pitcher is OK in their eyes, because it’s probably this year — or nothing for the Brewers.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 4, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what was thinking....

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sabathia

I wonder what you would have said had you been around in 1971 and saw Leo Durocher let Fergie Jenkins throw 30 CGs in a single season.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 4, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't just Leo...

…that was the norm back than from your better pitchers. What you forgot to say, was he also did on three days rest vs the four days they get today.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus Leo didn't really have anyone in the bullpen to give the ball too...

Didn’t Jenkins, Holtzman and Hands pitch about a hundred and fifty complete games that year?

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 4, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot, he had Phil Reagan and Ted Abernathy I think...

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 4, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Dick Selma, Joe Niekro....

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 5, 2008 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a pen...Who was the 4th starter? I thought Selma did occassionally.

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 5, 2008 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1971

The team didn’t have 150 CGs that year. Just 75.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 5, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So according to my math I was half right

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 5, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Harden still supposed to start next week?

Or is he next in line for an MRI?

I haven’t heard and I don’t really feel like digging around on the web.

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in line to start

no mention of any MRI, just a little soreness. He’ll be good to go in St. Louis.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Gaudin? Timeline for him?

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I've heard is day to day

Sounds like he just tweaked his back. He’s alright.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

I hope this isn’t one of those seasons where a team tumbles into the playoffs.

OPTIMISM!

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Worked for the cards in '06

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT's who I was thinking of....

Couldn’t remember the team but I knew it was fairly recent.

I guess history is on our side then?

(Excluding the 100 years part)

DeRosa: And who is the best and who is the worst card player?

Dempster: I think the best is yourself. [ . . .] I think the worst player is D-Lee. I think he bets every time just to bet.

by EJThunder on Sep 4, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sabathia's high innings count

Won’t bother him at all down the stretch.

You can’t break, tear, fracture, or have a spasm in fat.

by Gleebo on Sep 4, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes but

You can still just plain suck in October and he has a history of that.

by ak123 on Sep 4, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again

Again I need to wear my glasses.

first time I saw that I thought it said Z was going to something that rhymes with pitch again.

And yesterday I thought I read “Z to see doctor about aram” instead of arm.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Houston Pitching Matchups

Any guesses as to who will pitch in the Houston series?

Steve Phillips on his computer use as Mets GM, "I played solitaire on my computer in my office."

by Tate491 on Sep 4, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BREWERS LOSE - MAGIC NUMBER 18

That is all for now. :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Sep 4, 2008 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it is safe to say, with confidence the following....

NL East…Mets or Phillies
NL Central…Cubs
NL West…D’Backs
Wildcard….Brewers

1st round….D’Backs vs. Cubs, Brewers vs. Mets or Phillies

Unfortunately, I would rather play the Mets or the Phillies in the first round as opposed to those damned D’Backs.

by MDBNIU on Sep 5, 2008 12:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers still in it.

Though they’re pretty terrible.

You look like you'd fit in the trunk of my car.

by mambochicken23 on Sep 5, 2008 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's who I'm pulling for now in the west

Would love to see Z strike out the long-haired former Red Sox prima donna leaping gnome in the 1st game of the playoff

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 5, 2008 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spill the wine!

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dig that girl!

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 5, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the NL West is still up for grabs.

I could see the Mets collapsing again, too, letting the Phillies snag the NL East.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not me

Cubs were 4-2 against the D-Backs this year. They were 3-4 against the Phils. 2-0 against the Mets, with four games to be played, but remember, the Mets weren’t playing well when the Cubs played them.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 5, 2008 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillies 4 back from the Wildcard

With four to host against the Brewers.

A lot can happen yet.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND

6 games against us. I really would not be surprised if WC came out of East right now….

by ak123 on Sep 5, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be disappointed

Nothing personal; I’ve got a lot of friends who are Brewers fans. But they are the second best NL team right now, so I won’t cry if they’re out of the picture.

Of course, no matter what, the Cubs need to take care of business.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 5, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Selfishly hoping

For both teams to come out of the East. Then I drive drive my NY @$$ to any game!

by ak123 on Sep 5, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you could do it in a New York minute.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

more like a 40 minute car ride

But close enough. But don’t get me wrong, if I were to get hold of 2 tickets for a game in Chicago I’d be there in a heartbeat!

by ak123 on Sep 5, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it safe to say now...

that demp (or harden) ought to pitch game one, with the other going in game 2?

by tim815 on Sep 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's safe to say...

… that we shouldn’t be thinking about this right now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sortasticious,littlesticious,supersticious

I’m with Edmonds. I’m as confident as I can be, but I dont talk playoffs until that magic number is zero. But if the Cubs go to the playoffs…what was that schedule?

ailsle 409 - row 6 -seat 3 -June 23, 1984..price $6.50

by O'Cub on Sep 5, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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