Z: Rotator Cuff Tendinitis, WILL pitch again
Carlos Zambrano has undergone an MRI today on his right arm, and Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he has rotator cuff tendinitis and if things go well will pitch in Houston during the series between Sept. 12-14.
The Cubs' right-hander was supposed to take the exam yesterday, but he couldn't do it because of family reasons.
Everyone take a deep breath. He'll be back. Life has not ended.
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Same thing as before...
…and it sounds like he got some cortisone to calm things down. Now, he needs to give it absolute rest for a while to let that baby get better.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm guessing two to three weeks
I’ve had a cortisone shot twice, once in 1984 that shelved me for 3 weeks of the season and again last summer for nagging midle-age man ankle problem. Miracle stuff, but it takes time to come back. I hope the Cubs shutdown Zambrano completely for two weeks.
by MDBNIU on
Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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if they DL'ed him
they could bring him back on the 18th, in the middle of the Milwaukee series. Plus, he’d then be set up to pitch the last game of the year against Milwaukee (if it mattered), or skipped to set up a playoff rotation.
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by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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no point in DL'ing him with the rosters expanded...
unless the want to make a point of keeping him from pitching before he is ready.
My guess is that Z stays on the active roster
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by bobby h on
Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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No need for a DL with a 40 man roster
Unless Lou fears he’ll threaten to take the mound on his own…
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on
Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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well he is a big boy.
but you’re right, there’s really no need for it.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Oh God No! We're going to lose! Season OV....wait, wut?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT 0 recs
what I want to know is why didn't he show up yesterday, and why couldn't anyone get ahold of him?
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on Sep 4, 2008 1:46 PM CDT 0 recs
ESPN 1000
reported he missed it because of a ‘family issue’
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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His car was in the players parking lot...
…I’m telling ya, he was at the bar
"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella
by derv on
Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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I heard
Someone told me they heard him and his wife are expecting. Perhaps they had an appointment?
She didn’t appear pregnant at the bowling event.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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how many babies
can Cubs players HAVE in a year??? Geo, then Sori…
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT
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I have an odd visual of the Cub players
offseason training regimen…
7:30 am Breakfast
8:00 am Lift
10:00 am Run
11:30 am Impregnate Wife/Girlfriend
12:30 am Lunch
etc.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on
Sep 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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That's also the NBA regimen...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Sep 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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Minus...
the wife/girlfriend tidbit.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on
Sep 4, 2008 6:50 PM CDT
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I dunno.
In the NBA, wife divided by girlfriend seems like the normal math.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on
Sep 5, 2008 7:35 AM CDT
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do they need an hour for that?
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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Don't know how it works in your house....
In mine, the first 45 mins is the begging.
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on
Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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Ryan Theriot
doesn’t beg. But sometimes, he pees on the floor, so keep your rolled up newspaper handy.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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Hm, so he's scrappy...
…and kinky. Interesting.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT
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Excuse me gentlemen...
there is only room for ONE kinky individual here. I resemble that comment.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on
Sep 5, 2008 8:01 AM CDT
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LOL
There’s a post I won’t show my wife (or it’ll be upped from 45 minutes to an hour).
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on
Sep 4, 2008 11:34 PM CDT
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didnt ARam wife also have one?
"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella
by Madison Cub Fan on
Sep 4, 2008 7:38 PM CDT
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Oh, yeah.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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yes but
From what I heard on the radio she has one every year….
by ak123 on
Sep 4, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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Just as I speculated
He’ll miss a start or two, then come back and dominate at the right place at the right time!
Fingers crossed
"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then I'd have all my money back."
-Jack Handey
by deepthoughtsbyjackhandey on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT 0 recs
Really Really Really Good News!
….I think they should rest him longer….but then again I am not a Doctor, I only play one on BCB…
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT 0 recs
I agree...
…especially considering this is what shelved him earlier this season. I have had this same type of tendinitis and I tried to come back within a week after one cortisone shot and it flared back up again. I got a second one and was fine within 10 days. Every case is different, but since this has flared up twice this season, I don’t like the fact they are talking about him pitching by next weekend – which means he will be throwing on the side 2-3 times before than.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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By the way. What's your record?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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?????
n/t
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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Were you a pitcher, MPH?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on
Sep 4, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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Nope...
…played mostly OF.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Sep 4, 2008 4:45 PM CDT
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Wow girl... You are on top of it. I just heard this 5 minutes ago on the Score.
Good news. Good news. People need to realize that the suits aren’t misleading us, rather they are doing exactly what they said they were going to do with Harden when they acquired him- start from the end of the season, and work backwards- babying him as they go along. Now they are doing it with both Zambrano & Harden- not a bad thing. I want both of their arms rested and ready come post season.
This team hasn’t peaked yet. Which is a good thing. I have no doubt they will begin to peak in a couple of weeks & carry it into the postseason. Lou’s got a good handle on things. These last five wins don’t worry me, it just means that there is no where to go but up. Good news, good news…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 4, 2008 1:54 PM CDT 0 recs
I pulled up the Times website and this was in bright red
on the top… Figured it was still relatively new so I posted it here.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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Thanks for posting this.
While this isn’t great, I think he’ll be just fine. As long as he rests till the Houston series — 10 days away — I think this is a huge relief.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Sep 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT
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No problem, Al.
Considering all the alternatives, this is about the best possible news. A few weeks off and then a fresh, determined Z for the stretch run. Could’ve been so much worse.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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Hmm
Didn’t we hear that about five weeks ago when he came off the DL? He’s fresh and rested and ready for the playoff run? After a couple of good outings, it was back downhill and now he’s out again. I’m still very concerned.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on
Sep 4, 2008 4:08 PM CDT
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a couple of good outings?
wasn’t it five?
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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Still, that is a good point.
The fact that Z is being shut down for the second time this season can’t be good. I just hope they can finesse him through the end of the season and, we hope, the playoffs and figure out how to mitigate his arm problems long-term during the off-season.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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Correct...
…tendinitis is like the gift that keeps on giving if you don’t nip it in the bud and do the proper things to keep it at bay.
I’m not saying this is the case with Z, but sometimes they have to go in there (for guys with chronic tendinitis) and clean out some of the calcification etc. and give the cuff structure a little more room to operate without friction.
Hopefully, he gets it right and is on top of his game in a few weeks.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Sep 4, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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I don't think
that he had the cortisone shot the first time. That should help in the short but won’t fix the problem long term
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on
Sep 4, 2008 10:40 PM CDT
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all the Cubs need are a few good outings the rest of the year
1-3 in the regular season (depending on rehab and the division race), plus 1-2 in NLDS, 1-2 in NLCS and 1-3 in that other series.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 5:10 PM CDT
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I stand corrected
He did have more than a couple good outings. Thanks for pointing that out. However, my concern is still there, because after the good outings, he did go downhill again.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on
Sep 5, 2008 9:46 AM CDT
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I can stop hitting refresh now.
breathe. breathe. good. we’re good to go. 2008 baby. let’s do this.
also- does it seem to anyone else like the traffic has been down recently? Wondering if the issue from a week or so ago was continuing on BCB.
by Canseco's Roid Party on Sep 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT 0 recs
Thank's
Now I have a long walk down the stairs of the Sears Tower instead of a quick leap
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT 0 recs
halfblindcubbiegirl....
you bring me GREAT NEWS!!!! Will you Marry me? :-P j/k
by bleed that blue on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT 0 recs
What I find interesting is the AP's Take on this
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3569470
In the first paragraph, it is a blow to our chances for the WS. But two sentences later, they talk about he will probably be back in two weeks. Do they have interns write this stuff
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT 0 recs
I just saw that too and had the same thoughts...
….they have to sensationalize everything. I am surprised they didn’t find a way to mention a goat in the story as well.
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Excellent news but...
I was on ESPN.com when I saw the little report and I pulled up the blurb and it said:
CHICAGO — Chicago Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano has right rotator cuff tendinitis and inflammation, an MRI confirmed, a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century. Zambrano received a shot of anti-inflammatory medication and hopes to return to the rotation next week. General manager Jim Hendry said Zambrano is to start throwing again when the team begins a series in St. Louis on Sept. 10
Uhm…. so why exactly is this a “blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”? Does anyone else get the feeling they wrote the story before knowing what was wrong with Z?
by hmlee on Sep 4, 2008 2:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Jinx...beat ya by 2 minutes
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on
Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Who wrote that, Downey?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Yost...
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on
Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Or Rosenbloom
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on
Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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that dbag is still writing?
who knew!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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That's Mr. dbag to you.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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Blogging only, but yeah
Giving the Trib’s blogs that much more credibility . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on
Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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I get the idea that the national media is looking for any cracks in the armor...
Saying, “a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”, is merely hyperbole.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on
Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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It's fashionable to play on the
“Here they go again” angle. It’s really tiring. Those hacks never seem to get enough of it.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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the ap? engaging in hyperbole?
why. i’m shocked. that never happens.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Earlier this year
Carlos looked strong after a stint on the DL: in 6 starts (until the August problems), he was 4-1 with 40.1 IP and a 1.79 ERA, 11 BB, 30 K. More detailed info here
I’d take those numbers in the postseason and down the stretch this year.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Me too
I didn’t have the numbers handy, but I was remembering how awesome he was on the 4th of July in STL when he came off the DL.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT
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6 IP, 4 H, 0 R
he set the tone for the series.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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yep
it was an ace performance.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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This is probably the best thing that
could have happened to him. If he had struggled through that game, he probably would have made his next scheduled start and might have really damaged something. Now they can sit him down, let him get some rest and come back strong and healthy. If it were me, I would only pitch him in couple of innings until the playoff unless it was absolutely necessary.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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+1
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Sep 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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Yeah, this creates a huge opportunity...
…for Sean Marshall to step up and give this team some quality innings. I don’t think we can expect Sean to equal Carlos, but if he can keep the team in games and contribute to some wins, he can pave the way for Big Z to rejoin the staff very late in the season, if necessary, or definitely come playoff time.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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I've stated before that every
quality starting inning the Marshall gets is a plus. I think that he should be a big part of the starting staff for the future. He has a good arm and a good makeup. I would love to see him as our permanent fifth starter.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on
Sep 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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Right on
n/t
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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I think he will be come 2009
and this is a great time for him to find some rhythm and prepare to be the long man in the playoffs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT
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Hopefully we don't need a long man in the playoff....
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
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Sep 4, 2008 3:51 PM CDT
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