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Z: Rotator Cuff Tendinitis, WILL pitch again

The Sun-Times reports:

Carlos Zambrano has undergone an MRI today on his right arm, and Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said he has rotator cuff tendinitis and if things go well will pitch in Houston during the series between Sept. 12-14.

The Cubs' right-hander was supposed to take the exam yesterday, but he couldn't do it because of family reasons.

Everyone take a deep breath. He'll be back. Life has not ended.

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Same thing as before...

…and it sounds like he got some cortisone to calm things down. Now, he needs to give it absolute rest for a while to let that baby get better.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm guessing two to three weeks

I’ve had a cortisone shot twice, once in 1984 that shelved me for 3 weeks of the season and again last summer for nagging midle-age man ankle problem. Miracle stuff, but it takes time to come back. I hope the Cubs shutdown Zambrano completely for two weeks.

by MDBNIU on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if they DL'ed him

they could bring him back on the 18th, in the middle of the Milwaukee series. Plus, he’d then be set up to pitch the last game of the year against Milwaukee (if it mattered), or skipped to set up a playoff rotation.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no point in DL'ing him with the rosters expanded...

unless the want to make a point of keeping him from pitching before he is ready.

My guess is that Z stays on the active roster

"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens

by bobby h on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No need for a DL with a 40 man roster

Unless Lou fears he’ll threaten to take the mound on his own…

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well he is a big boy.

but you’re right, there’s really no need for it.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh God No! We're going to lose! Season OV....wait, wut?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT   0 recs

ESPN 1000

reported he missed it because of a ‘family issue’

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

His car was in the players parking lot...

…I’m telling ya, he was at the bar

"There's a lot of things we don't tell you." Lou Pinella

by derv on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I heard

Someone told me they heard him and his wife are expecting. Perhaps they had an appointment?

She didn’t appear pregnant at the bowling event.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how many babies

can Cubs players HAVE in a year??? Geo, then Sori…

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have an odd visual of the Cub players

offseason training regimen…

7:30 am Breakfast
8:00 am Lift
10:00 am Run
11:30 am Impregnate Wife/Girlfriend
12:30 am Lunch
etc.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's also the NBA regimen...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Minus...

the wife/girlfriend tidbit.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Sep 4, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I dunno.

In the NBA, wife divided by girlfriend seems like the normal math.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 5, 2008 7:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

do they need an hour for that?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't know how it works in your house....

In mine, the first 45 mins is the begging.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

Ryan Theriot

doesn’t beg. But sometimes, he pees on the floor, so keep your rolled up newspaper handy.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hm, so he's scrappy...

and kinky. Interesting.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Excuse me gentlemen...

there is only room for ONE kinky individual here. I resemble that comment.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 5, 2008 8:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

There’s a post I won’t show my wife (or it’ll be upped from 45 minutes to an hour).

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 4, 2008 11:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

didnt ARam wife also have one?

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 4, 2008 7:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, yeah.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes but

From what I heard on the radio she has one every year….

by ak123 on Sep 4, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just as I speculated

He’ll miss a start or two, then come back and dominate at the right place at the right time!

Fingers crossed

"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then I'd have all my money back."
-Jack Handey

by deepthoughtsbyjackhandey on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Exactly!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Sep 5, 2008 7:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Really Really Really Good News!

….I think they should rest him longer….but then again I am not a Doctor, I only play one on BCB…

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT   0 recs

I agree...

…especially considering this is what shelved him earlier this season. I have had this same type of tendinitis and I tried to come back within a week after one cortisone shot and it flared back up again. I got a second one and was fine within 10 days. Every case is different, but since this has flared up twice this season, I don’t like the fact they are talking about him pitching by next weekend – which means he will be throwing on the side 2-3 times before than.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

By the way. What's your record?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

?????

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Were you a pitcher, MPH?

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Sep 4, 2008 4:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope...

…played mostly OF.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 4:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow girl... You are on top of it. I just heard this 5 minutes ago on the Score.

Good news. Good news. People need to realize that the suits aren’t misleading us, rather they are doing exactly what they said they were going to do with Harden when they acquired him- start from the end of the season, and work backwards- babying him as they go along. Now they are doing it with both Zambrano & Harden- not a bad thing. I want both of their arms rested and ready come post season.

This team hasn’t peaked yet. Which is a good thing. I have no doubt they will begin to peak in a couple of weeks & carry it into the postseason. Lou’s got a good handle on things. These last five wins don’t worry me, it just means that there is no where to go but up. Good news, good news…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 4, 2008 1:54 PM CDT   0 recs

I pulled up the Times website and this was in bright red

on the top… Figured it was still relatively new so I posted it here.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for posting this.

While this isn’t great, I think he’ll be just fine. As long as he rests till the Houston series — 10 days away — I think this is a huge relief.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No problem, Al.

Considering all the alternatives, this is about the best possible news. A few weeks off and then a fresh, determined Z for the stretch run. Could’ve been so much worse.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

Didn’t we hear that about five weeks ago when he came off the DL? He’s fresh and rested and ready for the playoff run? After a couple of good outings, it was back downhill and now he’s out again. I’m still very concerned.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 4, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

a couple of good outings?

wasn’t it five?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Still, that is a good point.

The fact that Z is being shut down for the second time this season can’t be good. I just hope they can finesse him through the end of the season and, we hope, the playoffs and figure out how to mitigate his arm problems long-term during the off-season.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Correct...

…tendinitis is like the gift that keeps on giving if you don’t nip it in the bud and do the proper things to keep it at bay.

I’m not saying this is the case with Z, but sometimes they have to go in there (for guys with chronic tendinitis) and clean out some of the calcification etc. and give the cuff structure a little more room to operate without friction.

Hopefully, he gets it right and is on top of his game in a few weeks.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think

that he had the cortisone shot the first time. That should help in the short but won’t fix the problem long term

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 10:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

all the Cubs need are a few good outings the rest of the year

1-3 in the regular season (depending on rehab and the division race), plus 1-2 in NLDS, 1-2 in NLCS and 1-3 in that other series.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I stand corrected

He did have more than a couple good outings. Thanks for pointing that out. However, my concern is still there, because after the good outings, he did go downhill again.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Sep 5, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can stop hitting refresh now.

breathe. breathe. good. we’re good to go. 2008 baby. let’s do this.

also- does it seem to anyone else like the traffic has been down recently? Wondering if the issue from a week or so ago was continuing on BCB.

by Canseco's Roid Party on Sep 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT   0 recs

Thank's

Now I have a long walk down the stairs of the Sears Tower instead of a quick leap

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Sep 4, 2008 2:06 PM CDT   0 recs

halfblindcubbiegirl....

you bring me GREAT NEWS!!!! Will you Marry me? :-P j/k

by bleed that blue on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT   0 recs

What I find interesting is the AP's Take on this

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3569470

In the first paragraph, it is a blow to our chances for the WS. But two sentences later, they talk about he will probably be back in two weeks. Do they have interns write this stuff

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:10 PM CDT   0 recs

I just saw that too and had the same thoughts...

….they have to sensationalize everything. I am surprised they didn’t find a way to mention a goat in the story as well.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Sep 4, 2008 2:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Excellent news but...

I was on ESPN.com when I saw the little report and I pulled up the blurb and it said:

CHICAGO — Chicago Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano has right rotator cuff tendinitis and inflammation, an MRI confirmed, a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century. Zambrano received a shot of anti-inflammatory medication and hopes to return to the rotation next week. General manager Jim Hendry said Zambrano is to start throwing again when the team begins a series in St. Louis on Sept. 10

Uhm…. so why exactly is this a “blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”? Does anyone else get the feeling they wrote the story before knowing what was wrong with Z?

by hmlee on Sep 4, 2008 2:12 PM CDT   0 recs

Jinx...beat ya by 2 minutes

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha

so you did!

by hmlee on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who wrote that, Downey?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yost...

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Or Rosenbloom

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that dbag is still writing?

who knew!

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's Mr. dbag to you.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Blogging only, but yeah

Giving the Trib’s blogs that much more credibility . . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I get the idea that the national media is looking for any cracks in the armor...

Saying, “a blow to Chicago’s chances of winning the World Series for the first time in a century”, is merely hyperbole.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's fashionable to play on the

“Here they go again” angle. It’s really tiring. Those hacks never seem to get enough of it.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the ap? engaging in hyperbole?

why. i’m shocked. that never happens.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Earlier this year

Carlos looked strong after a stint on the DL: in 6 starts (until the August problems), he was 4-1 with 40.1 IP and a 1.79 ERA, 11 BB, 30 K. More detailed info here

I’d take those numbers in the postseason and down the stretch this year.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Me too

I didn’t have the numbers handy, but I was remembering how awesome he was on the 4th of July in STL when he came off the DL.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

6 IP, 4 H, 0 R

he set the tone for the series.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yep

it was an ace performance.

The Walk: Weapon of choice for the 2008 Cubs

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is probably the best thing that

could have happened to him. If he had struggled through that game, he probably would have made his next scheduled start and might have really damaged something. Now they can sit him down, let him get some rest and come back strong and healthy. If it were me, I would only pitch him in couple of innings until the playoff unless it was absolutely necessary.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, this creates a huge opportunity...

…for Sean Marshall to step up and give this team some quality innings. I don’t think we can expect Sean to equal Carlos, but if he can keep the team in games and contribute to some wins, he can pave the way for Big Z to rejoin the staff very late in the season, if necessary, or definitely come playoff time.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've stated before that every

quality starting inning the Marshall gets is a plus. I think that he should be a big part of the starting staff for the future. He has a good arm and a good makeup. I would love to see him as our permanent fifth starter.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Sep 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Right on

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he will be come 2009

and this is a great time for him to find some rhythm and prepare to be the long man in the playoffs.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully we don't need a long man in the playoff....

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 4, 2008 3:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs