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Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Friday 9/5, 6:10 CT

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Chicago Cubs
@ Cincinnati Reds

Friday, Sep 5, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Great American Ball Park

Ted Lilly vs Bronson Arroyo

Partly cloudy with a 30-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing out to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

Complete Coverage >

I don't have a whole lot to say except I hope the rain holds off, because playing a doubleheader at this time of year is no one's idea of fun, and -- just win, baby. Time to reduce that magic number yourselves.

But to calm yourselves down before tonight's game, please read Barry Rozner's voice of reason.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs		 vs. Bronson Arroyo
B. Arroyo
Reds
13-8 W-L 13-10
4.23 ERA 4.97
160 SO 137
57 BB 57
30 HR 25
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 13-8 29 29 0 0 0 0 174.2 169 85 82 30 57 160 4.23 1.29
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Bronson Arroyo 13-10 29 29 1 0 0 0 166.2 186 99 92 25 57 137 4.97 1.46

Lilly and Arroyo have matched up twice before this year, on July 10 and August 20, both at Wrigley Field, and Arroyo has won both of them, even though Lilly gave up only two hits on August 20. This time, the matchup is at the launching pad known as Great American Ballpark; both Lilly (30) and Arroyo (25) are among the ML leaders in HR allowed. Fortunately for Lilly, his former tormentor Adam Dunn is in Arizona. No other Red has homered off him more than twice (Edwin Encarnacion, who homered on July 10). Lilly needs to step up. Since that July 10 loss, he is 4-2, 3.34 in nine starts.

Meanwhile, no Cub has really hit Arroyo well except for Mark DeRosa (9-for-18, a double, a HR). Derrek Lee has two homers off him, but only a .231 average. Like Lilly, time for the Cub hitters to step up.

Today's game is on CSN+, which means Chicago viewers get it on CLTV, and outside the market people have to listen to the awful Marty Brennaman and his even worse son little Thommy. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 6 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 3:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Hey legs...

Can you make up one of those with Jimmyeatworld & Goodie1969? Puhleese?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 5, 2008 3:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You dare challenge their candidacy?

What is your platform? Who has endorsed you? What do you believe in?!

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I stand for the Cubs winning the World Series.

Free drinks, and sandwiches for all. I will spread the Cubs love to all the world and reduce our dependence on Brewer’s losses. I am endorsed by Jimmy Edmonds, Jimmy Hendry, Jimmy Morrison and most importantly, Jimmy Osmond.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Sep 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i heard ex-mariners 3bman

jimmy presley endorsed you

by tim815 on Sep 5, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

whachootalkinabout, WILLIS!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 5, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe you meant...

DYNOMITE!!!

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, the Jimmy platform.

Jimmy likes that. Jimmy likes that a lot.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mr. Candidate, sir. A Foreign Policy Question.

What is your Middle East foreign policy? The Israel Baseball League last year had former Cub pitcher Ken Holtzman, and former Mets Art Shamsky and Ron Blomberg as managers. This year, they might not sign contracts. Is there any chance we can get Ryan Braun and Gabe Kapler to take their place next year, so as to get them off the Brewers?

by zevkalman on Sep 5, 2008 3:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As President...

I’ll invest in renewable sports like women’s beach volleyball, women’s indoor volleyball, and the next generation of homegrown women volleyball players. That’s how America is going to free itself from our dependence on foreign baseball – not through short-term gimmicks, but through a real, long-term commitments.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 3:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hee hee

“not through short-term gimmicks” and women’s beach volleyball in the same paragraph. Nope, no gimmick here.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 5, 2008 3:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SNL: what are you and Sue running for?

bat boy & bat girl of the Cubs? that would be a great honor.

I can’t imagine you would want to be President of the country. Wouldn’t that cut down on the BCB blogging? You may want to rethink this.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 5, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually...

 An apt Freudian slip. SWL is our SNL!

by Emelie on Sep 5, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As long as

you keep around the bikini’s for the beach volleyball players and those shorts for the indoor players, you have my full support.

When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches. ~ Ron Santo

by gwood on Sep 5, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

YOU TOOK MY RUNNING MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 5, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What's your platform, SWL?

I’d like to hear about it.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 5, 2008 6:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I will defer to my VP running mate here....

Sue….fumigate your wisdom.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 6:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ahhhh

been waiting all afternoon for the pregame thread…last 2 hours of work will go much faster now

by lindz221 on Sep 5, 2008 3:05 PM CDT   0 recs

don't you mean "work" ?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 5, 2008 3:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haha exactly

i’m actually doing schoolwork at my job currently…so double the slacking off

by lindz221 on Sep 5, 2008 3:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fearless Prediction:

Cubs 8
Reds 2

McCain / Palin: The POW / WOW! Ticket

by Goat Whisperer on Sep 5, 2008 3:12 PM CDT   0 recs

I'll go with...

Cubs 7
Reds 3

Grand slam by Ronny Cedeno in the top of the 8TH. Yeah, right!

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Sep 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I say

Cubs 12
Reds 6

Homers from Alfonso and ARam, with more than one run scoring via “small ball”

by DWChaney on Sep 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Six?

Must be Howry in late innings, right?

by Cajuncub on Sep 5, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You know it!

We start the 8th up 12-1 and Lou sends Howry in to pitch 2 :\

by DWChaney on Sep 5, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

small ball,

like corey patterson throwing to the wrong base

by tim815 on Sep 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A shitty week

could VERY WELL be turned around, with the weekend in store, and the Cubs trouncing the Reds tonight…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 5, 2008 3:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Need to win

It’s getting cold hanging out on this ledge

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Sep 5, 2008 3:15 PM CDT   0 recs

Actually I'm too old to take up skydiving

bad ankles, bad knees, bad attitude. LOL

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Sep 5, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Carlos Quentin

Wow, the news about his busted wrist has to be staggering for the Sox and their fans.

I wouldn’t wish this on any team. We all know how long it took DLee to rebound, and some may say he still hasn’t.

by thermal54 on Sep 5, 2008 3:18 PM CDT   0 recs

Pardon the pun

but that’s a really tough break for the Sox. Quentin was the only dude supplying any offense for that team for the first half of the season. It looks like they are scoring plenty now, but I don’t think they can afford to lose the man for the rest of the season. He was on his way to the MVP, in my opinion.

by DWChaney on Sep 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey guys

…it could be worse. At least this hasn’t happened to us this year…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 5, 2008 3:19 PM CDT   0 recs

You know if they had lost the game

There would have been a lot more complaining about that one.

by lindz221 on Sep 5, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SportsCenter had a great time with that AB.

I laughed, but how everyone could just lose track of the count is beyond me.

by DWChaney on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But really, how do we KNOW he wasn't?

Maybe he confused the ump with some kinda long-distance Jedi mind trick.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Sep 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this is not the count you're looking for.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I heard A.J. interviewed on ESPN radio the other day...

…and apparently after Cliff Lee completed his 20th victory he was staring down A.J. in the dugout instead of celebrating with his teammates. Naturally, A.J. claimed to know nothing about why Lee was so pissed off.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hope the rain holds off.

They need to win tonight period. Go get ’em Cubs!!!!

I’m still pissed at Bob Howry.

by sue369 on Sep 5, 2008 3:30 PM CDT   0 recs

me too.

and will be until kingdom come.

by Emelie on Sep 5, 2008 3:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

might I suggest a little blue pill for kingdom?

(you left yourself wide open for that one…sorry)

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 5, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

See thats why I think $1 for every scoreless inning Howry pitches would be an interesting donation

We could prolly count it out in change “rolling my eyes”

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If lou trots him out there again in a situation like that

I think we may have to Call A&E and have an intervention with Lou.

All kidding aside, I have to wonder what the positional players think when howry trots out to the mound. Not only is he slow as molases, but it is not like he is really fooling anyone…

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Sep 5, 2008 4:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we have had a

not starting lineup in awhile. time to fix that.

not starting lineup for cincinnati.

cf vada pinson
2b ron oester
rf paul o’neill
1b lee may (once got thrown out at home from third on a single)
3b wayne krenchicki
lf bernie carbo
c dave van gorder
ss darrell chaney
p jay tibbs

by tim815 on Sep 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT   0 recs

no sabo?

or danny jackson?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 5, 2008 5:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

probably

shoulda started instead of krenchicki

by tim815 on Sep 5, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rozner

the voice of reason? I don’t think so.

The hatchet job he’s doing on Zambrano is reminiscent of his rants against Sammy Sosa.

Maybe he hates Latino ballplayers.

Or maybe Z stiffed him for an interview.

Rozner always has his own agendas.

by Clark Addison on Sep 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT   0 recs

Maybe he hates Latino ballplayers?

That sir, is just a bit slanderous. Think what you will of the man as a journalist, but do NOT frame him as a bigot…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You think that was a hatchet job?

Why?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 5, 2008 5:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

First offical press release of the the campaign

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT   0 recs

Very cryptic

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Him getting a letter of resignation might be his first order of business.

SWL

I can’t even get a pic to post that must mean I am not cut out for press secretary since that will be one of the mail responsibilties. I will support your campaign 100%

Sincerely
Maddy

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 5, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

**main

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 5, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, just goes to show that...

…press secretaries have the shelf life of a drummer in Spinal Tap.

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They last longer if you don’t turn them all the way up to eleven.

Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...

by N Oakley on Sep 5, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And what happened to Stumpy Joe?

Its not very pleasant story…but uh, he died, uh he choked on uh, the official explanation was he choked on vomit…It was actually -it was actually someone else’s vomit…you know there’s no real…Well they can’t prove whose vomit it was…they don’t have the ability…theres no way of… You can’t really dust for vomit…

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It was like a little green globule...

"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 5, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This comes as an unexpected blow to my campaign...

but I cannot express my gratitude for the nearly 2 hours of service you have given. Would you be willing to serve in a lesser role as HBCG administrative assistant?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure I'd would love to

"A catchers biggest concern behind the plate is to make his pitcher pitch a little better than he can" Roy Campanella

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 5, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you for your continued support Maddie...

Your official title is “Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of Pole Dancing”. Your new business cards should be ready by the middle of next week.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd like to have Jayo525

as the Director of the FBI. Any guy who uses the pickup line of “Does this smell like chlororform to you?” has got it going.

by sue369 on Sep 5, 2008 4:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Consider it done...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 5, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs