Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Saturday 9/6, 6:10 CT
Chicago Cubs at Cincinnati Reds, Sep 6, 2008 6:10 PM CDT
All right, enough already. No more getting lost on the highway, no more grand slams given up, no more losing.
Just win, baby.
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Sometimes, the guy who you least expect to do well steps up. Maybe that's wishful thinking, but I expect Jason Marquis to have his "A" game on tonight. In his last five starts he's 3-1, 3.60 with only one home run allowed in 30 innings -- there's that inning-eating thing he's so good at, averaging six per start. The Cubs need that tonight. Adam Dunn, Marquis' longtime tormentor, is gone -- the best remaining Reds hitter against him is Edwin Encarnacion (6-for-13, 2 HR). Every Cub pitcher should try to steer clear of Joey Votto, the 21st Century's newest Cub-killer, who is hitting .383 (18-for-47) with 8 HR and 16 RBI in 13 games against the Cubs this year. (That's a career for some people.)
Johnny Cueto is up and down. Sometimes he's unhittable -- as he was two weeks ago at Wrigley Field when he gave the Cubs only four hits in seven innings, only to see the Reds bullpen blow the game. Other times he is very hittable -- he's given up 16 HR at home (compared to 10 on the road) at the launching pad known as GABP. That's what the Cubs need to do tonight, bring out the big lumber again.
Today's game is on cable in Chicago and Cincinnati and since it starts after 7 pm EDT, it'll be on EI. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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THE LOSING ENDS!
TONIGHT!!
LETS GO CUBS!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 24 HR 64 RBI
Lineup!
cst_cubs Lineup vs. Cueto: sori, riot, lee, rami, soto, HOFFPAUIR, dero, jhnsn, mrqus. about 1 hour ago from txt
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
Pinella must be having a "senior moment" if Hoff is playing 2b
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 24 HR 64 RBI
I dont' see anything like that on twitter
I’m assuming RF…. but this is all gordo’s twitter says. I copied it exactly.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoff can't really play RF either, so they say
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Yeah, well that's another issue altogether. :-)
Wasn’t he doing some rf in the minors recently? Anyway, I guess we’ll see soon enough.
He's a first baseman
and the first baseman who usually plays is not in the line up.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
What do you know!
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
how to read... obviously
:-P
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
We're not all so high tech with your Twitter-ing and your ..."reading"
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Cubs are going to win today........
I need to hear the song!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Believe it or not
I seriously think that Marquis is going to be the one pulling us out of the dumps…. Its werid I know but, baseball and sports in general work like that. Guys you least expect get the job done.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 24 HR 64 RBI
Marquis knows
how much winning would mean to everyone, especially his reputation. He’ll do fine.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Over the last few turns
Marquis’ has been our best pitcher. I have faith in him.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
CUETO:
LIGHT HIM UP!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 24 HR 64 RBI
Its from the Burning man
Celebration or whatever they have in I believe the AZ desert
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
It could
Because really i found that picture on google when i googled “light him up” lol
http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman
There is some info on burning man
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Great American sold out
The Reds and Cubs will face off with a sellout crowd filling the stands at Great American Ballpark for the second of a three-game series between two of the oldest clubs in baseball history. It will mark just the fifth sellout of the season for the Reds, who have spent the bulk of their season in or near the National League Central basement, and just the 39th in the stadium’s five-year history.
Heh. Maybe a good crowd’ll get our boys swinging again…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
Altogether now...
let’s beam winning ions down to the Cubs. Our collective will should do the trick.
Im fully able to participate in tonights BCB festivities
After missing alot of games due to “work” I think its only fair for the Cubs to reward my hard work with a win.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .286 24 HR 64 RBI
Well
Since my job does have this nice way of paying my bills, and as of today the Cubs have never really paid me for there services, I think id have to reluctantly side with the job.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Well
Since my job does have this nice way of paying my bills, and as of today the Cubs have never really paid me for there services, I think id have to reluctantly side with the job.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Non-twittered lineups
Cubs
Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Soto, C
Hoffpauir, RF
DeRosa, 2B
Johnson, CF
Marquis, P
Reds
Dickerson, LF
Keppinger, SS
Phillips, 2B
Votto, 1B
Encarnacion, 3B
Bruce, RF
Patterson, CF
Bako, C
Cueto, P
thanks bruce!
:-) i knew you’d rescue us!!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you sir
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Hoffpauir in RF?
Let’s hope the Reds don’t hit too many balls out there.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Al
I have to ask you this.
Do you think the Cubs might shop Hoff this offseason?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Shop him?
For what? He’ll be 29 next year and is a minor league journeyman. Maybe he could DH in the AL, I suppose. But his value is pretty small, unless you’re packaging him with other real prospects. Hoffpauir isn’t one.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well I figure
Since the OF is a tad crowded some AL team might be willing to pony up a half way decent minor leaguer.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Why?
There are plenty of real prospects younger than Micah who’ll do just as well.
If he can help us win a game or two this September, he’ll have done his job well.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Whats the over/under on pitches thrown by Cueto?
He did miss his last start due to elbow issues…. think Dusty’ll keep him under 140?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions
He had Bronson at around 120 pitches even when the game was a laugher....
…so if Cueto is pitching well, and the game is close, I’m afraid Cueto will have to pitch until his arm falls off.
signed by padres...
shut down the last i heard… but admittedly that was a long time ago.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
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"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
It could be a LOT worse
Those of you who where drooling over( and terrified of) the Webb/Haren 1-2 punch of the D’backs take note. Webb just got creamed today. 7 runs in 5.2 , this is his 3rd straight craptastic start. He has now given up 18 runs in 13.2 innings. Haren is much better in his two last starts only 10 runs in 10 innings. I am as nervous as the rest of you but I do take some guilty pleasure in the sufferings of other teams and of course I must now root for the Dodgers since Maddux is there. Oh and just when it looked like it could not get worse for D’Backs. They just announced Johnson will skip his start tomorrow due to shoulder soreness.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
10 runs in 10 innings?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well better than 18 runs in 13.2
This really is an Ace meltdown. Scariest part is lots and lots of walks from Haren and a lot from
Webb today.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it is better, but damn.
I don’t understand how Webb is as good as he’s been… or at least why adjustments haven’t been made to take him oppo or wait him out to get the sinker up…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about Webb but
I gather from watching the game last night that there has been a public feud between
Bob Melvin and Haren over how to fix what is wrong and of course that is never a good thing.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, HA!
So it’s not just Cubs pitchers who have shoulder soreness.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I don't understand why everyone's so panicy about Harden..
when Hendry got him he said they were going to be careful and skip him rather than lose him for a while… Why the hysteria?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Because
It was right as Z was having his shoulder issues.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Well I am not hysterical
but I could live without THIS type of excitement. I prefer the kind when you are HAPPY and
WINNING.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It adds the element
of panic to my life.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 6, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I was watching TWIB today and they were all freaking out about Harden...
it was bizarre.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Um what is TWIB ?
Sometime all the alphabet soup references confuse me.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I confess was not sure it was still on anymore
Brings back a lot of childhood memories though.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
This week in baseball, the show on before the Fox Saturday games.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow the monkey schedulers have out done themselves.
Has anyone noticed that there is NO game tomorrow between the A’s and the O’s. That’s right no game on a SUNDAY. I assume it is because the Ravens are playing but how in the hell could they not have thought that before. With todays rain out of the FIRST game on a DH and the possible rain out of the night game this could leave them two games short. Of course neither team is in the race but not like the computer schedule would have known this. This plus the lack of games on Labor Day and Memorial Day and the INSANE actual team schedules shows just what a joke this is. NO MORE COMPUTERS doing schedules.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Well...
… consider that the baseball schedule was out LONG before the NFL schedule was made. Now, you’d think maybe the NFL would think, “Gee, let’s not have a Ravens home game when the Orioles are home”, but I guess they don’t care.
This would have all worked out if not for Hanna, but that wasn’t scheduled either.
In any case, neither the Orioles nor A’s are in contention, so if they lose two games each off the schedule, who cares?
I do agree with you about the ridiculous schedule this year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
are you going to join us on the game thread tonight, Al?
When it rains it pours, and it's pouring right now, I'll tell you. -- Lou
Wait a minute
The Ravens don’t play in Camden Yards? Why the F is there no game tomorrow?
What they share a PARKING LOT ????.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 6, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I could only shake my head
when I found that out this morning, after noticing Markakis (on my fantasy team) wasn’t playing at all tomorrow, and checking it out.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
The schedules have a mess...
i still can’t get over the 9 “opening days” and then once you have the REAL season openers, there was no baseball on the next day.
That set the stage for what’s been a strange season.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
mlb.com on Cueto
“Cueto has not pitched since Aug. 24 when his outing vs. the Rockies was cut short after three innings because a posterior right elbow strain caused by a hyperextension. He threw a bullpen session on Sunday and was deemed healthy again by the Reds coaching and medical staff. With 155 innings pitched this season, the 22-year-old is likely to eclipse his career high of 161 1/3 innings set last season in the Minors.”
Overworked and slightly hurt, huh?
“Reds manager Dusty Baker said there was no concern about Cueto’s health heading into the season’s final month.”
Of course he did.
To that is only say one thing:
LIGHT HIM UP!!!!!!!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
To that I say only one thing*
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
How do GM's let him do this??
Why does he still have a job managing young pitchers?? Doesn’t the pitching coach say anything?
Who is the Reds' pitching coach anyway?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 6, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Dick Pole
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 6, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
i could live w/ that...
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
"I dunno man, lets change the subject"
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Probables for Iowa at Oklahoma
Iowa: Jason Stanford-3-1 5.06
Oklahoma: Michael Ballard- 11-6 4.86
7:05 CT
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
Probables for Iowa at Oklahoma
Iowa: Jason Stanford-3-1 5.06
Oklahoma: Michael Ballard- 11-6 4.86
7:05 CT
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
We've got this one in the bag!!!! I think
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Good Evening everyone!
It feels like forever since I have been able to kickback with you all and enjoy some Cubs baseball (even though watching the Cubs have been what one would say enjoyable the last few games)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Thank you :)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
good to see you galvan.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Its always great to see you all here :)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Today's Derrek's 33rd birthday...
Happy birthday…. now, get a hit. :-P
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Sep 6, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
DLee at 33
I like the sound of that… now if he’d hit 33 to commemorate
When it rains it pours, and it's pouring right now, I'll tell you. -- Lou
jump!
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/9/6/608631/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 24 HR 64 RBI
Hello!
Hello everybody. I’ve never been here, but now I’m in college and can’t quite listen to games. This is all I have!
This cant be all
Do you ever use gameday link on the Cubs home page.
I’m listening to the game online right now on MLB.com. It cost me $14 or so at the first of the year. Best money I ever spent.
Here is a link to the Skype chat room I started.
http://www.skype.com/go/joinpublicchat?skypename=cajun_cubs_fan&topic=Cubs20Chat20Room&blob=yp1tRDq1oqpdcbM6seL-M8_47xLCtyEceAGh2-bGac6z9ppW8cTl1_ZXSNBvYx1-9MuE38OjbzrwzK3NSWl1I44
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/windows/beta/downloading/
Lets Play Twooo!!!
by Cajun-Cubs-Fan on Sep 6, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions

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