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First Pitch Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Sunday 9/7, 12:15 CT

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way to lead us off Sue!

let’s score early and often and give Sean a cushion to work with.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here we go Cubbies, here we go..clap clap

Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.

by alabebo on Sep 7, 2008 12:04 PM CDT   0 recs

OK...

No let downs…

by rambler19 on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 PM CDT   0 recs

A bit of a shake-up in the line-up

Sori, Hoff (RF), DLee, ARam, Geo, DeRo, JEd, Riot, Marshall

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:07 PM CDT   0 recs

Thank god

They finally are doing the right thing and put Soto in the 5 hole instead of Edmonds.

by rambler19 on Sep 7, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hoff played RF yesterday too?

Lou’s giving Dome the cold shoulder or time off or both?

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A little of both, I think.

Plus, Harang’s a righty

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like Geo there, as well

Speed for speed in the 2-hole, but Riot’s OBP is, umm…better than Hoff’s

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sixth

on this thread

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Sep 7, 2008 12:08 PM CDT   0 recs

Micah starting regularly kinda pisses me off

I want Dome starting, and Micah as a bench player works…but NOT as a starter.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:08 PM CDT   0 recs

Id rather have the guy

that can potentially hit the ball out of the infield.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who DOME?

That guy sure strikes out A LOT.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just have a complete distaste

for career minor leaguers, no disrespect to Crash Davis. They are career minor leaguers for a reason: because they aren’t good enough to be in the majors.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not always.

But Hoffpauir isn’t some TTO god like Jack Cust or Russ Branyan.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Even Crash spent 21 days in the bigs

21 best days of his life

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong...

…Micah isn’t a #2 hitter anyway, is he? Seems like an odd slot for him.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh come on!

I’m sure a player with a 3:1 K:BB rate in the minors will do FINE playing out of position! What could possibly go wrong?

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree, Dan

no matter how frustrating Dome is at bat I’d much rather have him in right

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Time to bleed the Reds!

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Sue, I'll join ya!!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT   0 recs

The Cubs can do this

the Padres can help

by MOCubsfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT   0 recs

OT: Baseball statistics --where to get them.

Does anyone know where I can get annual W-L data (date and win-or-loss) for each baseball team for the past few years, and hitting data for players in any format? I want to play with some transfer entropy and mutual information algorithms for time series as applied to baseball. Thanks in advance.

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT   0 recs

baseballreference

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why not start with the link at the top that Al posted

Start with BR, baseball-reference.com. Good starting point for basic data, IMO.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it downloadable?

Either in comma-separated value, xml, or other format?

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd recommend...

…downloading the database from http://www.baseball-databank.org/. Versions for Access and MySQL.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry.

CSV and MySQL only. baseball1.com has the Access version.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No problem.

What tools are you using, if I can ask?

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Codes using Python and C++ that I've used for some other work I've done

on predicting possible world-wide epidemics using CDC health data. Principles are the same: given a time series of health-data, what’s the probability that what you are seeing is an “anomaly” (epidemic) based on what the “expected value” of the time series should be at some future time. Also, how does the effect of time series affect the behavior of another time-series (transfer entropy), and how does the nonlinear correlation (mutual information) between one time series and another affect each other?

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What do you mean by "mutual information"?

Information to the general public about Disease X?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why hasn't this game started?

It’s 1213…

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT   0 recs

blame dusty

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's like Canada

All wrapped up in one person.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lou's lost

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's driving around looking for Riverfront Stadium

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT   0 recs

Useless stat of the day...

DeRo has hit 20 HRs this year…

… but last night’s was his first 3R – HR of the season.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT   0 recs

for some reason

I’m worried about facing Harang today.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Huge double-header for the NL East today

Moyer v Pedro Game 1
Hamels v Johan Game 2

Could be a big swing in that division today.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT   0 recs

That is huge

two good pitching matchups

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A little dramatic for Bruce

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:17 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm just gonna GameDay the game...

…too much football today, and I can’t BCB, GameDay, WGN Radio, AND watch football today.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT   0 recs

you're not ambidextrous?

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No,

I’m not productive at ADHD-ing.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

here's what I don't get ...

if Lou will hit Hoff in the 2-hole, why not hit Kosuke there more often? Anybody?

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT   0 recs

the best reason

to hit Hoff second is to put a left-hander in between our glut of righties. Or to get him some good pitches to hit with Lee and Ramirez on deck.

And that logic SHOULD apply to Kosuke, shouldn’t it?

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's a fun question:

Would you rather have Micah or McGehee starting? I know who I’d choose.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Micah

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We all knew what YOU would say.

Micah Hoffpauir isn’t the worst backup first baseman in the league, although he’s probably the fourth best on this team. McGehee doesn’t belong in the majors at all.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We all know what I would say?

you have more opinions than Dan Bernstien.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

better option

DeRosa in right, Fontenot at second.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dome seems to scuffle when he's higher in the order

1: 50AB, .260/.362/.722
2: 78AB, .154/.250/.481
5: 217AB, .300/.405/.870

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's pretty weird

It can’t be as simple as that, though, can it? No disrespect intended …

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was a big proponent of Dome leading off

Until Sori got hurt, and I got to see it first-hand. He doesn’t seem to like it one bit.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There is very little evidence that hitters do significantly differently in different parts of the lineup.

I’m still convinced we could bat Soriano down in a traditional RBI spot, we just need to be patient with it.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not sure that applies

He was hot early in the season, and he was batting #5.

He’s gone cold, and has been cold no matter where Lou has put him.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Because Lou wants someone there not named DeRo?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

in the two hole, or in right?

Please explain your point.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Batting #2.

He’s had two great games there, one not so good, and that’s it.

Why not put an .870 OPS in a position to get more PAs?

DLee has played 4 more games than DeRo and has 78 more PAs.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well ...

it would significantly weaken the lower part of the lineup. But I can’t really decide whether I disagree with you …

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

a quiet first and quiet BCB

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Good inning, boys!

A guy that’s 4-15 with a 5.21 ERA – let’s take 7 pitches in the first! Good call dudes.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:20 PM CDT   0 recs

Soriano and Lee gave them a ride.

You take pitches to get ones you want to hit. Soriano was about two inches from a home run on that pitch – I don’t think he was going to see a better pitch to hit in that at-bat.

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by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh...no tv for me, just GameDay. I stand corrected.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gordo's Twitter

says A-Ram ahd quad tightness last night? I didn’t know that…

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT   0 recs

i could tell on the double by Gio

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It was mentioned in the post-game

Not enough for him to sit, tho. (Obviously)

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I used to think A-Ram was lazy

But now I know he just likes to take his time around the bases. Soriano can dog it around the bases, Aramis just enjoys taking his time.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ron asked Lou on the pre-game

Lou said he had “tightness” in his leg. Didn’t get more specific…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why does he always double clutch before throwing the ball?

It’s excruciating to watch.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT   0 recs

applause

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT   0 recs

looks sharp

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs