First Pitch Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Sunday 9/7, 12:15 CT
by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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way to lead us off Sue!
let’s score early and often and give Sean a cushion to work with.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Here we go Cubbies, here we go..clap clap
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Hoff played RF yesterday too?
Lou’s giving Dome the cold shoulder or time off or both?
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Micah starting regularly kinda pisses me off
I want Dome starting, and Micah as a bench player works…but NOT as a starter.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Id rather have the guy
that can potentially hit the ball out of the infield.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I just have a complete distaste
for career minor leaguers, no disrespect to Crash Davis. They are career minor leaguers for a reason: because they aren’t good enough to be in the majors.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Even Crash spent 21 days in the bigs
21 best days of his life
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong...
…Micah isn’t a #2 hitter anyway, is he? Seems like an odd slot for him.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Oh come on!
I’m sure a player with a 3:1 K:BB rate in the minors will do FINE playing out of position! What could possibly go wrong?
Agree, Dan
no matter how frustrating Dome is at bat I’d much rather have him in right
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Time to bleed the Reds!
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
OT: Baseball statistics --where to get them.
Does anyone know where I can get annual W-L data (date and win-or-loss) for each baseball team for the past few years, and hitting data for players in any format? I want to play with some transfer entropy and mutual information algorithms for time series as applied to baseball. Thanks in advance.
Why not start with the link at the top that Al posted
Start with BR, baseball-reference.com. Good starting point for basic data, IMO.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'd recommend...
…downloading the database from http://www.baseball-databank.org/. Versions for Access and MySQL.
Codes using Python and C++ that I've used for some other work I've done
on predicting possible world-wide epidemics using CDC health data. Principles are the same: given a time series of health-data, what’s the probability that what you are seeing is an “anomaly” (epidemic) based on what the “expected value” of the time series should be at some future time. Also, how does the effect of time series affect the behavior of another time-series (transfer entropy), and how does the nonlinear correlation (mutual information) between one time series and another affect each other?
What do you mean by "mutual information"?
Information to the general public about Disease X?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Why hasn't this game started?
It’s 1213…
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Lou's lost
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
He's driving around looking for Riverfront Stadium
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
Useless stat of the day...
DeRo has hit 20 HRs this year…
… but last night’s was his first 3R – HR of the season.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
for some reason
I’m worried about facing Harang today.
Huge double-header for the NL East today
Moyer v Pedro Game 1
Hamels v Johan Game 2
Could be a big swing in that division today.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'm just gonna GameDay the game...
…too much football today, and I can’t BCB, GameDay, WGN Radio, AND watch football today.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
you're not ambidextrous?
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
here's what I don't get ...
if Lou will hit Hoff in the 2-hole, why not hit Kosuke there more often? Anybody?
the best reason
to hit Hoff second is to put a left-hander in between our glut of righties. Or to get him some good pitches to hit with Lee and Ramirez on deck.
And that logic SHOULD apply to Kosuke, shouldn’t it?
Here's a fun question:
Would you rather have Micah or McGehee starting? I know who I’d choose.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
We all knew what YOU would say.
Micah Hoffpauir isn’t the worst backup first baseman in the league, although he’s probably the fourth best on this team. McGehee doesn’t belong in the majors at all.
We all know what I would say?
you have more opinions than Dan Bernstien.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
better option
DeRosa in right, Fontenot at second.
Dome seems to scuffle when he's higher in the order
1: 50AB, .260/.362/.722
2: 78AB, .154/.250/.481
5: 217AB, .300/.405/.870
that's pretty weird
It can’t be as simple as that, though, can it? No disrespect intended …
I was a big proponent of Dome leading off
Until Sori got hurt, and I got to see it first-hand. He doesn’t seem to like it one bit.
There is very little evidence that hitters do significantly differently in different parts of the lineup.
I’m still convinced we could bat Soriano down in a traditional RBI spot, we just need to be patient with it.
Not sure that applies
He was hot early in the season, and he was batting #5.
He’s gone cold, and has been cold no matter where Lou has put him.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Because Lou wants someone there not named DeRo?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
in the two hole, or in right?
Please explain your point.
Batting #2.
He’s had two great games there, one not so good, and that’s it.
Why not put an .870 OPS in a position to get more PAs?
DLee has played 4 more games than DeRo and has 78 more PAs.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Good inning, boys!
A guy that’s 4-15 with a 5.21 ERA – let’s take 7 pitches in the first! Good call dudes.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Soriano and Lee gave them a ride.
You take pitches to get ones you want to hit. Soriano was about two inches from a home run on that pitch – I don’t think he was going to see a better pitch to hit in that at-bat.
Eh...no tv for me, just GameDay. I stand corrected.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Gordo's Twitter
says A-Ram ahd quad tightness last night? I didn’t know that…
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I used to think A-Ram was lazy
But now I know he just likes to take his time around the bases. Soriano can dog it around the bases, Aramis just enjoys taking his time.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Ron asked Lou on the pre-game
Lou said he had “tightness” in his leg. Didn’t get more specific…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Why does he always double clutch before throwing the ball?
It’s excruciating to watch.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
Complaint Alert:
Rami seems to be reaching for a lot of sliders outside the zone – noticed it especially yesterday and he’s already done it a couple times. Not too worried bc he’s a professional hitter, but it’s moderately annoying at least. Am I crazy?
by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
No, you're not crazy.
Ramy’s in a slump. When he’s in a slump, he swings at a lot of bad pitches. He’ll snap out of it, hopefully just like Sori did.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Sabermagician in the stands...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
??
missed it
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Had a sign..
14 runs scored, 3 homers by Sori = magic number 17.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
saber geek and english teacher all in one
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Who the hell is Glo?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I dated a Gloria once
She went by ‘Glo’. Not a fond memory there.
Took her to a Cubs/Cards game at Wrigley. The Cards won. I shoulda broke it off right then.
Len just said that Dempster
got hit by a “wayward biscuit.”
I'll say
Blanco taking the locker room attendant hostage and wheeling him out to the on deck circle… bunch o’ clowns, our Cubs :-D
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
DeRo's playing hurt today.
DeRo hit Dempster with a biscuit, and Dempster returned fire with a bagel. Got him good… That Dempster guy has a pretty good arm, I’ve heard…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
OT: it's cool how you can move tabs around in Chrome
just discovered that
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
You can do that in any browser
I think Firefox could do it in v1.5
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Firefox has had that for a coupla versions now
I get frustrated with other browsers when I can’t move their tabs around
OK... I admit it... I'm slow
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Raise your hand
if, before the season, you thought that DeRo would hit his 20th HR before DLee.
Be honest.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I agree on the doubles power vs. HR power
Did batting him #5 put more pressure on him to try to hit for more power? Did that cause him to lengthen his swing?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
If the Reds had a good manager
Their team would be pretty good in a few years. With Dusty, I’m sure he will manage to fuck it up. Unlike the Pirates or Astros, I like their young guys.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
sounds like he did a pretty good job
of screwin Harang’s season. Pitched him four innings of relief 3 days after a start and then bringin him back on short rest for his next start
I liked that move a lot.
Really wish managers would do more with their starters on throw days – they’re throwing anyways, might as well make use of it. Yankees did it last year with Pettite.
Position players, I agree.
Votto and Bruce look like the real deal. Encarnacion, I’m not a fan.
Pitching? Dusty has already maimed Harang and Cueto — can Volquez be far behind?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I thought Cueto was gonna have a way better season than Volquez...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
As much as we like to ride Dusty about his habits with pitchers...
…which one of us was going to shut down Prior or Wood in 2003? I think people forget how tight that race was.
I hope CPAT enjoys
his last 20+ games in baseball.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Don't you think he'll be back as long as Dusty is?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
the two brothers are combining for a sub .400 BA
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
You can't field as well as Patterson, though.
Not that finding a good defensive CFer that can hit .200 is that difficult; we have a guy like Sam Fuld and I’m sure other clubs have guys like that, too.
That said, I think Patterson is a better hitter than what he’s shown this year.
He is a better hitter than what he's shown this year.
We know he’s a good CF.
The question is: Is Corey capable of producing an OPS that is ML average for a CF?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Probably not, but he's still a servicable fourth outfielder.
After dealing away Dunn and Griffey, it’s not like the Reds have a whole lot of other options.
dang
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
C'mon SEAN
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
one of the funniest moments from last night
was when marquis walked a runner in and the batter was extremely reluctant to take first base….I totally imagined Dusty freaking out and screaming “Dont clog the bases!”
by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that's why he didn't go
And I know it’s not all that funny when the opposition scores runs…
Dusty bashing is just very popular here especially of his “Bases Clogging” schtick so it was quite apt
by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Dickerson knew that the pitch was a strike...
Marquis knew it, Geo knew it, Gameday knew it, everyone knew it…
…except the umpire.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
ugh 1-0
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
We need Dome in RF dammit!
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Usually you stash a guy with a poor arm at 1B.
I’m pretty sure his limited OF time in the minors was mostly in LF, too.
Even DeRo could have made that throw...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Or Ward, for that matter...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
well
now, Lou’s decision to sit Kosuke doesn’t look so good.
Yeah, but it was a play Dome could have made...
…and it’s not like Hoffpauir’s 0-for-6 since rosters expanded is making up for it.
you're right - afterall 6 at bats is a lot
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I have a pretty good idea of what I think Hoffpauir's offensive capabilites are...
…and yeah, it’s higher than a .200 OPS. But it’s not enough to offset the huge gap between him and Dome defensively.
Cubs pitchers have been getting sqeezed this whole series.
You can see it on Gameday and on the TV
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank goodness only 1 run that inning
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I just ordered takeout indian food
Chicken Tikka Madras, Pilau rice, garlic naan bread. About to pick it up. Maybe that will be the spark the team needs!!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
I'm not sharing, so stop trying!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's fantastic stuff.
Of course, I can’t claim to have had very authentic stuff for the most part – don’t think they serve a lot of beef curry in India proper.
I agree. I love Indian food.
Usually, in Indian restaurants they have chicken curry or lamb curry. Never saw beef curry on any menu—weird.
At my village resteraunt
I have the choice of dishes in whatever sauce (curry, madras, etc.) using chicken, lamb, prawn, king prawn, chicken tikka, or lamb tikka
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a curry restauraunt in Japan called Coco's.
Japanese restaurants aren’t very authentic – they serve spaghetti with a poached egg on top in Italian restaurants.
anything with a poached egg on top rocks in my book
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
The curry place would serve a raw egg in a bowl on the side...
…and you’d mix it in with the curry and rice. It was awesome.
it will certainly get some runs
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
LMAO!!!!
Quote of the day, Emelie. Quote of the day.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Too funny
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Hi everyone. I'm back from my trip to the desert.
I posted a couple of pictures from the trip with me in my BCB shirt in the fanshots section.
It was weird. The first week I was gone, the Cubs couldn’t lose a game, and the second week, they couldn’t win. I’m rooting for more of the former.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
welcome back!
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
Thanks, Emelie, for your help on posting pictures.
I’m just a bit slow about some of these things.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
no prob :D
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
VERY funny kid-eating-pizza shot
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
WGN must have thought so too
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.
by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it my imagination,
or is Riot slower than we think he is? There have been a few grounders I was sure he would beat out, and he wasn’t even close.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Ok I have to run to a garage sale
The Cubs better be ahead when I get back or I’m holding all of you accountable.
rake it in, daev
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I think these Seinfeld v Gates commercial SUCKS
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
+2,093,581,928,238.000001
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I need a new laptop for work and we are buying a Mac Book Pro
and downgrading to Windows XP so we can avoid Vista
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
I just switched.
MBP, with VMWare Fusion, and I run my statistical software in Vista, within OS X. I don’t see why anyone would need a Windows machine again.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
This must be a Seinfeld reference.
Never a big fan, sorry, Colin.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
OT - MICROSOFT MUST DIE!!
Not that I feel strongly about it or anything.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Just venting. I am trying to learn enough to use Linux.
I’m mediocre in terms of computer literacy, as some denizens of this board can attest.
I have lots of computer literate friends (I’m an amateur astronomer and ham radio operator) and they all despise Windows.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I have one word for you...
Apple.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I've got linux loaded up on a machine
but haven’t delved … how’s the learning curve?
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I haven't really tried it yet. I'm just a lot of talk on this issue.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be steep. My advice for newbies is to use Ubuntu. Friendliest and easiest of
the different flavors of Linux.
actually, I might have that
I’ll have to rev it up after the game give it a twirl
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I've heard that from others, but couldn't remember that name.
Thanks for giving it to me.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I've tried a few Ubuntu variants...
…and I’ve found for what I do, Windows still fits my needs the best. Office 2007 and Photoshop CS3 are essential for me, and for that, I need Windows.
If you're not used to UNIX in general
And you want to use the command line, pretty steep. If you stick with the graphical stuff, you can get a lot done without a terrible amount of effort.
Unix always was and will be a black box for me
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
I second that -- at least the Windows part of Microsoft...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I must admit to having some issues with Hoff in rf -- it is just very weird.
DeRo could be there if you want to sit Dome, and then put Fontenot at 2nd (like someone else suggested). I wonder what Lou is thinking….he says he wants to play those who are hitting—and LBR is hitting.
I think Lou
is just giving Hoff a shot. It doesn’t appear to be anything that will last.
you really shouldn't swear like that on a family board
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
different situation
proven veteran vs. unproven rookie. Howry has been a very good pitcher in the past.
"in the past" being the operative words
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
On the pre-game,
Lou basically admitted that he “was trying to find out about Hoffpauir” — implying that he was thinking about him for the post-season roster. It doesn’t really make sense to carry him since he is just a worse fielding version of Ward, but they don’t really have a solid 14th position player. (It sounds like Pie is still in the basement of the Canine Hotel California.)
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Worse than Ward?
Thats tough to say. I doubt anyone here has seen enough to make that judgement. I do know Ward is fat and slow
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Ward has a stronger arm than Hoffpauir...
…and more experience in the outfield. Hoffpauir is a little more mobile, but I’m not convinced it’s enough to offset the difference.
Ward is the best pinch hitter in the Majors
And I have complete faith in the man. Michah? Notsomuch.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
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"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
McNabb looking like he's trying to break Brady's records last year
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I love that all we can see in the stands are Cub fans
This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou
OT wow, did anyone just see Farve's hail mary TD?
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
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