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way to lead us off Sue!

let’s score early and often and give Sean a cushion to work with.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go Cubbies, here we go..clap clap

Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.

by alabebo on Sep 7, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK...

No let downs…

by rambler19 on Sep 7, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A bit of a shake-up in the line-up

Sori, Hoff (RF), DLee, ARam, Geo, DeRo, JEd, Riot, Marshall

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank god

They finally are doing the right thing and put Soto in the 5 hole instead of Edmonds.

by rambler19 on Sep 7, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoff played RF yesterday too?

Lou’s giving Dome the cold shoulder or time off or both?

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Geo there, as well

Speed for speed in the 2-hole, but Riot’s OBP is, umm…better than Hoff’s

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sixth

on this thread

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Sep 7, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Micah starting regularly kinda pisses me off

I want Dome starting, and Micah as a bench player works…but NOT as a starter.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Id rather have the guy

that can potentially hit the ball out of the infield.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who DOME?

That guy sure strikes out A LOT.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just have a complete distaste

for career minor leaguers, no disrespect to Crash Davis. They are career minor leaguers for a reason: because they aren’t good enough to be in the majors.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not always.

But Hoffpauir isn’t some TTO god like Jack Cust or Russ Branyan.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even Crash spent 21 days in the bigs

21 best days of his life

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong...

…Micah isn’t a #2 hitter anyway, is he? Seems like an odd slot for him.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on!

I’m sure a player with a 3:1 K:BB rate in the minors will do FINE playing out of position! What could possibly go wrong?

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, Dan

no matter how frustrating Dome is at bat I’d much rather have him in right

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to bleed the Reds!

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: Baseball statistics --where to get them.

Does anyone know where I can get annual W-L data (date and win-or-loss) for each baseball team for the past few years, and hitting data for players in any format? I want to play with some transfer entropy and mutual information algorithms for time series as applied to baseball. Thanks in advance.

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

baseballreference

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not start with the link at the top that Al posted

Start with BR, baseball-reference.com. Good starting point for basic data, IMO.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it downloadable?

Either in comma-separated value, xml, or other format?

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd recommend...

…downloading the database from http://www.baseball-databank.org/. Versions for Access and MySQL.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

CSV and MySQL only. baseball1.com has the Access version.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem.

What tools are you using, if I can ask?

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Codes using Python and C++ that I've used for some other work I've done

on predicting possible world-wide epidemics using CDC health data. Principles are the same: given a time series of health-data, what’s the probability that what you are seeing is an “anomaly” (epidemic) based on what the “expected value” of the time series should be at some future time. Also, how does the effect of time series affect the behavior of another time-series (transfer entropy), and how does the nonlinear correlation (mutual information) between one time series and another affect each other?

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean by "mutual information"?

Information to the general public about Disease X?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why hasn't this game started?

It’s 1213…

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

blame dusty

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's like Canada

All wrapped up in one person.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou's lost

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's driving around looking for Riverfront Stadium

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Useless stat of the day...

DeRo has hit 20 HRs this year…

… but last night’s was his first 3R – HR of the season.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for some reason

I’m worried about facing Harang today.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge double-header for the NL East today

Moyer v Pedro Game 1
Hamels v Johan Game 2

Could be a big swing in that division today.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is huge

two good pitching matchups

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little dramatic for Bruce

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just gonna GameDay the game...

…too much football today, and I can’t BCB, GameDay, WGN Radio, AND watch football today.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you're not ambidextrous?

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

I’m not productive at ADHD-ing.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's what I don't get ...

if Lou will hit Hoff in the 2-hole, why not hit Kosuke there more often? Anybody?

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the best reason

to hit Hoff second is to put a left-hander in between our glut of righties. Or to get him some good pitches to hit with Lee and Ramirez on deck.

And that logic SHOULD apply to Kosuke, shouldn’t it?

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a fun question:

Would you rather have Micah or McGehee starting? I know who I’d choose.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Micah

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We all knew what YOU would say.

Micah Hoffpauir isn’t the worst backup first baseman in the league, although he’s probably the fourth best on this team. McGehee doesn’t belong in the majors at all.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We all know what I would say?

you have more opinions than Dan Bernstien.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

better option

DeRosa in right, Fontenot at second.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome seems to scuffle when he's higher in the order

1: 50AB, .260/.362/.722
2: 78AB, .154/.250/.481
5: 217AB, .300/.405/.870

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty weird

It can’t be as simple as that, though, can it? No disrespect intended …

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was a big proponent of Dome leading off

Until Sori got hurt, and I got to see it first-hand. He doesn’t seem to like it one bit.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is very little evidence that hitters do significantly differently in different parts of the lineup.

I’m still convinced we could bat Soriano down in a traditional RBI spot, we just need to be patient with it.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure that applies

He was hot early in the season, and he was batting #5.

He’s gone cold, and has been cold no matter where Lou has put him.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Lou wants someone there not named DeRo?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting #2.

He’s had two great games there, one not so good, and that’s it.

Why not put an .870 OPS in a position to get more PAs?

DLee has played 4 more games than DeRo and has 78 more PAs.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well ...

it would significantly weaken the lower part of the lineup. But I can’t really decide whether I disagree with you …

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good inning, boys!

A guy that’s 4-15 with a 5.21 ERA – let’s take 7 pitches in the first! Good call dudes.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano and Lee gave them a ride.

You take pitches to get ones you want to hit. Soriano was about two inches from a home run on that pitch – I don’t think he was going to see a better pitch to hit in that at-bat.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...no tv for me, just GameDay. I stand corrected.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordo's Twitter

says A-Ram ahd quad tightness last night? I didn’t know that…

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i could tell on the double by Gio

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was mentioned in the post-game

Not enough for him to sit, tho. (Obviously)

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to think A-Ram was lazy

But now I know he just likes to take his time around the bases. Soriano can dog it around the bases, Aramis just enjoys taking his time.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron asked Lou on the pre-game

Lou said he had “tightness” in his leg. Didn’t get more specific…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does he always double clutch before throwing the ball?

It’s excruciating to watch.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

applause

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looks sharp

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess not :-(

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Complaint Alert:

Rami seems to be reaching for a lot of sliders outside the zone – noticed it especially yesterday and he’s already done it a couple times. Not too worried bc he’s a professional hitter, but it’s moderately annoying at least. Am I crazy?

by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you're not crazy.

Ramy’s in a slump. When he’s in a slump, he swings at a lot of bad pitches. He’ll snap out of it, hopefully just like Sori did.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sabermagician in the stands...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

??

missed it

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had a sign..

14 runs scored, 3 homers by Sori = magic number 17.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotcha

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i could outrun Gio

……future 1st baseman

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who the hell is Glo?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dated a Gloria once

She went by ‘Glo’. Not a fond memory there.

Took her to a Cubs/Cards game at Wrigley. The Cards won. I shoulda broke it off right then.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Len just said that Dempster

got hit by a “wayward biscuit.”

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like it

was pretty loose in the club house this morning. LOL!

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say

Blanco taking the locker room attendant hostage and wheeling him out to the on deck circle… bunch o’ clowns, our Cubs :-D

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh to be a

fly on the wall in there. :D

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

I’d be a fly with a big grin

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRo's playing hurt today.

DeRo hit Dempster with a biscuit, and Dempster returned fire with a bagel. Got him good… That Dempster guy has a pretty good arm, I’ve heard…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy DeRo

Walks on 5 pitches

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: it's cool how you can move tabs around in Chrome

just discovered that

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can do that in any browser

I think Firefox could do it in v1.5

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Firefox has had that for a coupla versions now

I get frustrated with other browsers when I can’t move their tabs around

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK... I admit it... I'm slow

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raise your hand

if, before the season, you thought that DeRo would hit his 20th HR before DLee.

Be honest.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That I'd buy.

I was expecting a little better doubles production, though.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

twice as many? I thought Kosuke was projected to hit between 15 and 20 HRs?

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on the doubles power vs. HR power

Did batting him #5 put more pressure on him to try to hit for more power? Did that cause him to lengthen his swing?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Reds had a good manager

Their team would be pretty good in a few years. With Dusty, I’m sure he will manage to fuck it up. Unlike the Pirates or Astros, I like their young guys.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sounds like he did a pretty good job

of screwin Harang’s season. Pitched him four innings of relief 3 days after a start and then bringin him back on short rest for his next start

by BradB311 on Sep 7, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked that move a lot.

Really wish managers would do more with their starters on throw days – they’re throwing anyways, might as well make use of it. Yankees did it last year with Pettite.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Position players, I agree.

Votto and Bruce look like the real deal. Encarnacion, I’m not a fan.

Pitching? Dusty has already maimed Harang and Cueto — can Volquez be far behind?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cueto should have been shut down IMO

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Cueto was gonna have a way better season than Volquez...

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as we like to ride Dusty about his habits with pitchers...

…which one of us was going to shut down Prior or Wood in 2003? I think people forget how tight that race was.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope CPAT enjoys

his last 20+ games in baseball.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think he'll be back as long as Dusty is?

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His Batting Average

Is .202!! Damn I could nearly hit that well….. Well I couldnt do much worse :)

by Stan Cox on Sep 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the two brothers are combining for a sub .400 BA

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't field as well as Patterson, though.

Not that finding a good defensive CFer that can hit .200 is that difficult; we have a guy like Sam Fuld and I’m sure other clubs have guys like that, too.

That said, I think Patterson is a better hitter than what he’s shown this year.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Scouting report is good

I busted my shoulder when younger and cant throw for toffee :)

by Stan Cox on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a better hitter than what he's shown this year.

We know he’s a good CF.

The question is: Is Corey capable of producing an OPS that is ML average for a CF?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not, but he's still a servicable fourth outfielder.

After dealing away Dunn and Griffey, it’s not like the Reds have a whole lot of other options.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dang

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon SEAN

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh

Marshall walks ’em clogged.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

one of the funniest moments from last night

was when marquis walked a runner in and the batter was extremely reluctant to take first base….I totally imagined Dusty freaking out and screaming “Dont clog the bases!”

by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know that's why he didn't go

And I know it’s not all that funny when the opposition scores runs…

Dusty bashing is just very popular here especially of his “Bases Clogging” schtick so it was quite apt

by cubsonWGN4ever on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dickerson knew that the pitch was a strike...

Marquis knew it, Geo knew it, Gameday knew it, everyone knew it…

…except the umpire.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh 1-0

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need Dome in RF dammit!

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even DeRo could have made that throw...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Ward, for that matter...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

now, Lou’s decision to sit Kosuke doesn’t look so good.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that wasnt that bad of a play

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't

but Fukudome would have likely made a good play

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but it was a play Dome could have made...

…and it’s not like Hoffpauir’s 0-for-6 since rosters expanded is making up for it.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right - afterall 6 at bats is a lot

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a pretty good idea of what I think Hoffpauir's offensive capabilites are...

…and yeah, it’s higher than a .200 OPS. But it’s not enough to offset the huge gap between him and Dome defensively.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tough hop - ball beat him

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sean getting squuezed?

Gameday sure makes it look that way!

by CubFaninNY on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs pitchers have been getting sqeezed this whole series.

You can see it on Gameday and on the TV

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank goodness only 1 run that inning

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's get some runs!!!!

Get those bats going guys!

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just ordered takeout indian food

Chicken Tikka Madras, Pilau rice, garlic naan bread. About to pick it up. Maybe that will be the spark the team needs!!!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sharing, so stop trying!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never had Indian

food before so I think I’d pass anyway.

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think its gross

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's fantastic stuff.

Of course, I can’t claim to have had very authentic stuff for the most part – don’t think they serve a lot of beef curry in India proper.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I love Indian food.

Usually, in Indian restaurants they have chicken curry or lamb curry. Never saw beef curry on any menu—weird.

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At my village resteraunt

I have the choice of dishes in whatever sauce (curry, madras, etc.) using chicken, lamb, prawn, king prawn, chicken tikka, or lamb tikka

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a curry restauraunt in Japan called Coco's.

Japanese restaurants aren’t very authentic – they serve spaghetti with a poached egg on top in Italian restaurants.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anything with a poached egg on top rocks in my book

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it will certainly get some runs

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!

Quote of the day, Emelie. Quote of the day.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

line of the day.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too funny

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hi everyone. I'm back from my trip to the desert.

I posted a couple of pictures from the trip with me in my BCB shirt in the fanshots section.

It was weird. The first week I was gone, the Cubs couldn’t lose a game, and the second week, they couldn’t win. I’m rooting for more of the former.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

welcome back!

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Emelie, for your help on posting pictures.

I’m just a bit slow about some of these things.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no prob :D

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VERY funny kid-eating-pizza shot

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WGN must have thought so too

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been . . . baseball. It rules over America like an army of steamrollers." Terrance Mann
Tommie Agee was out.

by Weeghman Park on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it my imagination,

or is Riot slower than we think he is? There have been a few grounders I was sure he would beat out, and he wasn’t even close.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yuck

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok I have to run to a garage sale

The Cubs better be ahead when I get back or I’m holding all of you accountable.

by daeviant on Sep 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

rake it in, daev

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's see if Marshall can settle down.

we will get some runs off Harang

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think these Seinfeld v Gates commercial SUCKS

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Vista sucks

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2,093,581,928,238.000001

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need a new laptop for work and we are buying a Mac Book Pro

and downgrading to Windows XP so we can avoid Vista

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Sep 7, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just switched.

MBP, with VMWare Fusion, and I run my statistical software in Vista, within OS X. I don’t see why anyone would need a Windows machine again.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This must be a Seinfeld reference.

Never a big fan, sorry, Colin.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT - MICROSOFT MUST DIE!!

Not that I feel strongly about it or anything.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just venting. I am trying to learn enough to use Linux.

I’m mediocre in terms of computer literacy, as some denizens of this board can attest.

I have lots of computer literate friends (I’m an amateur astronomer and ham radio operator) and they all despise Windows.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one word for you...

Apple.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got linux loaded up on a machine

but haven’t delved … how’s the learning curve?

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, I might have that

I’ll have to rev it up after the game give it a twirl

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've tried a few Ubuntu variants...

…and I’ve found for what I do, Windows still fits my needs the best. Office 2007 and Photoshop CS3 are essential for me, and for that, I need Windows.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're not used to UNIX in general

And you want to use the command line, pretty steep. If you stick with the graphical stuff, you can get a lot done without a terrible amount of effort.

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unix always was and will be a black box for me

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a pair of old NeXT machines at home

They’re pretty black boxes, anyway :)

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I second that -- at least the Windows part of Microsoft...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they both need the money

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must admit to having some issues with Hoff in rf -- it is just very weird.

DeRo could be there if you want to sit Dome, and then put Fontenot at 2nd (like someone else suggested). I wonder what Lou is thinking….he says he wants to play those who are hitting—and LBR is hitting.

by zevkalman on Sep 7, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou

is just giving Hoff a shot. It doesn’t appear to be anything that will last.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you really shouldn't swear like that on a family board

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

different situation

proven veteran vs. unproven rookie. Howry has been a very good pitcher in the past.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

key word - past

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"in the past" being the operative words

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right ...

on the past thing. Lou is trying to get a guy who was good IN THE PAST going again. It hasn’t worked.

But there’s no reason to think he’ll give as long a leash to Hoff.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he sucks ass this year

and Lou keeps trotting him out there.

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the pre-game,

Lou basically admitted that he “was trying to find out about Hoffpauir” — implying that he was thinking about him for the post-season roster. It doesn’t really make sense to carry him since he is just a worse fielding version of Ward, but they don’t really have a solid 14th position player. (It sounds like Pie is still in the basement of the Canine Hotel California.)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 7, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worse than Ward?

Thats tough to say. I doubt anyone here has seen enough to make that judgement. I do know Ward is fat and slow

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ward has a stronger arm than Hoffpauir...

…and more experience in the outfield. Hoffpauir is a little more mobile, but I’m not convinced it’s enough to offset the difference.

by cwyers on Sep 7, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ward is the best pinch hitter in the Majors

And I have complete faith in the man. Michah? Notsomuch.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where you can check out but never leave!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 7, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McNabb looking like he's trying to break Brady's records last year

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 7, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that all we can see in the stands are Cub fans

This is the time now where people that are getting the job done are the people that are going to play. Plain and simple. -- Lou

by Emelie on Sep 7, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT wow, did anyone just see Farve's hail mary TD?

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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