A September To Remember
I went to sleep last night figuring the Brewers had won -- they were leading 4-2 going into the 9th -- only to wake up and discover, happily, that the Reds had won a game in their last at-bat for the second day in a row, beating Milwaukee 5-4, reducing the Cubs' magic number to 15 and making the Cubs' division lead 4.5 games going into the series with the Cardinals tonight.
Yes, the Cubs are cold, 1-5 in September so far. Guess what? So are the Brewers, at 2-6 this month.
One more note for this morning: I keep reading all over this site about who you'd want the Cubs to face in the postseason. Never mind that they have to get there first. Frankly, I don't care who they play -- while you've been debating Diamondbacks/Dodgers, the Phillies have sneaked to within three games of the Brewers for the wild card.
And the Phillies host the Brewers for a four-game series this weekend.
So, don't make too many plans. The cautionary tale is the 2006 Twins. For nearly four months the Tigers led the AL Central, heading for the best record in the league and home field throughout the playoffs. They lost their final five games and wound up as the wild card; the Twins finished first in the Central and drew Oakland in the first round, with home field.
The Twins got swept. Meanwhile, the Tigers won their Division Series with the Yankees and then, without home field as the wild card, swept the A's in the ALCS.
Just get in. Myownself, I'll be happy to see the Cubs in the playoffs two years in a row. Would I rather they had home field throughout? Of course. But wild cards have made the World Series each of the last six years and won it three times. Once you get into the postseason, it's a crapshoot.
Just keep winning and good things will follow.
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Don’t care who they play, just that they play in the post season.
After I hit a home run I had a habit of running the bases with my head down. I figured the pitcher already felt bad enough without me showing him up rounding the bases. ~Mickey Mantle
by Jettero2112 on Sep 9, 2008 8:25 AM CDT 0 recs
Kudos to you!
Al, I made that same point a few nights ago; that the wildcard team has won the WS three of the last six years, and was roundly criticized for mentioning it; the dissenters’ opinions were that “them that means the wildcard team didn’t win it the other three years”.
My point was that the division title means nothing; that the Cubs (at that point) were nine or ten games in front for the wildcard spot and therefore had a great chance of making the playoffs. Division title are great, sure, but that’s not what a team strives for when then they take the field for Game One in March or April.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on Sep 9, 2008 8:29 AM CDT 0 recs
Go Cubs Go!
Start a new winning streak tonight in Wrigley (Mid)west!
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 9, 2008 8:29 AM CDT 0 recs
just win
don’t care how. just win.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Sep 9, 2008 8:30 AM CDT 0 recs
Copycat Brewers!
letting 3 runs score in the 9th, where did they get that idea?
Alright, let’s have a great game tonight, and get that “W” flying again. Oh, how I have missed her.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Sep 9, 2008 8:32 AM CDT 0 recs
Oooh, the Brewers fans were pissed...
They DID NOT like losing that game – at home, no less…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on
Sep 9, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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Lack of attendance in Miller Stadium?
Are they really drawing 30K fans these days for a playoff team out of a capacity of 40K? Or was that a Day game figure. I see also they drew 32K on the Thurs SD game. I thought they had big support in Milwaukee these days?
by rmonday557 on
Sep 9, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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Monday night was the Packers season opener
That’s what is REALLY important in Wisconsin. Baseball just fills the time between football seasons in Cheese-land.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on
Sep 9, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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True, just win.
But there’s no denying that losing the division and being the wild card team would be a let down. I don’t want to back up into the playoffs after such a good season. If this team chokes in the final stretch it probably won’t get far in the postseason.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 9, 2008 8:34 AM CDT 0 recs
That's the spirit!
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 8:37 AM CDT
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Again, read my post.
The 2006 Tigers stumbled into the postseason and then went 7-1 and roared into the World Series. True, then they forgot how to field and lost it. But at least they got there.
Same for the 2000 Yankees, who I mentioned yesterday — lost 13 of their last 15 regular season games but WON the WS.
Now, I’m not suggesting I WANT the Cubs to do this, quite the opposite. But getting in, no matter how, is the first goal.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Sep 9, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
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Locally here in Michigan Al, no one expected anything from the Tigers in the playoffs...
after their BAD play against the Royals at the “Coma” (Comerica Field) at the end of 2006. I think the Yankees came into their playoff series with the Tigers very overconfident- remember, this was just 3 years removed from that DISMAL 2003 Tigers team.
The Yanks won game #1 and thought it would be a cakewalk.
It just doesn’t work that way.
But I completely agree. Yes, I want the Cubs to have the best record in the NL, clinch home field through the NLCS and then win the whole enchilada. But the first step is to GET IN.
To that end, the Cubs Wild Card magic number is 12.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)
by Zeke on
Sep 9, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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Before anyone corrects me, I meant Comerica Park.
It got the “Coma” nickname during the first few years of this decade when you could have dropped the backstop net, played a game and not hit any fans in the stands with foul balls. It was pretty desolate.
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by Zeke on
Sep 9, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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I expect
the Cubs to play well in St. Louis. Our rotation is coming back into focus. The defense needs to shore itself up, while a few timely hits will get us back on track.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." - George F. Will
by Slakkr on Sep 9, 2008 8:38 AM CDT 0 recs
I'd agree with that.
Getting the rotation back on the rails will do wonders for everyone. It’s amazing how touchy these things can be. You’d like to see a better ability to adapt to adversity, but I guess that’s just not possible sometimes. And I imagine every team goes through the same thing.
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 8:40 AM CDT
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I agree on the defense
bats come and go, but this team is capable of playing superb defense, and there is no excuse for the sloppy play of late
by TC Cubby on
Sep 9, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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I think is was genious of the Cubs to let the Reds come back and win Sunday...
…so that they had a bucket load of confidence going to Milwaukee.
OK, that’s not what happened, but in a season of “cosmic karma”, it sure seems like that was the result.
The Reds score 4 in the 9th Saturday, 3 in the 9th Sunday and 3 in the 9th last night. I’m just glad the Cubs are done playing the Reds for the year. Let other teams deal with them for the rest of the month.
Let’s play two!
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by Zeke on Sep 9, 2008 8:42 AM CDT 0 recs
Is that Quade w/ you in your avatar?
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 8:51 AM CDT
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I hope you are kidding....That is Sandberg.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on
Sep 9, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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I honestly couldn't tell, with the shadows like that!
Of course, that’s Sandberg in mine, too.
My bad!
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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It is indeed Ryno. The Peoria Chiefs came to Lansing to play the Lugnuts this past April.
The shadow was compromise you get when you ask a complete stranger standing in the autograph line with you to snap a picture. Ah well…
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by Zeke on
Sep 9, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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The Cubs few cold streak this year
end without warning. I remember that funk they were in around the All Star break. Things looked really bleak; the brewers had tied the Cubs for first and we were heading to Milwaukee for a four series that look disastrous. The Cubs seemed to turn it around on that Sunday game against the fish. After that they went on a massive hot streak that didn’t end until the middle of the phillies series. I suspect that they will do the same very soon, hopefully not cooling off and having a hot September and October.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Sep 9, 2008 8:53 AM CDT 0 recs
I think we are debating two different things
If we end up in the wildcard because we finish the season playing decent ball and MIL runs the table then so be it – at least we head into playoffs healthy and playing solid fundamental baseball. If we limp into the wildcard (or even as division winner) continuing to play uninspiring baseball well that is kind of concerning. I know that regular season streaks don’t necessarily carry into playoffs and just getting there is all that matters, but I’d think that if we playing good ball we won’t care as much who we face.
Of course, personally I’d say ABA (Anyone but Arizona)
by BeltwayCubsFan on Sep 9, 2008 8:57 AM CDT 0 recs
I pretty much agree with
everything you said. After all we have done this season, to ONLY get the WC would be a let down, unless we suffered a rash of injuries and we limped into the post season that way.
Lately, we have won consistently on the road until Cincy, but we never, ever play well here in AZ. Personally, I want home field throughout the NL playoffs and take our chances on the road in the WS. Remember the 2001 WS? The home team won every game.
I also agree that if a team gets hot in the playoffs, the home field advantage is negligible. If we get hot in October, and carry it through the entire month, we should win the ultimate MLB prize. If we are struggling, I want to be in the Friendly Confines.
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by BigJohnAZ on
Sep 9, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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is pie coming up today?
i would really like to see this kid one more time before we ship him off..
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Sep 9, 2008 9:12 AM CDT 0 recs
I'm ambivalent...........
I just get the feel we have another C Pat here. And I’m not really feeling Micah H either. Some guys come up and just look like they belong, no matter what the number are. And other guys dominate the minors and come up and look lost (micah H on sliders)
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by graceunderpressure on
Sep 9, 2008 9:21 AM CDT
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but
why not have that extra body on the bench? at some point before the end of the season we’ll need a pinch runner late……we could always use his defense
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by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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yeah, you're right
I just don’t expect much
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by graceunderpressure on
Sep 9, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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i don't expect anything out of his bat either
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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from your keyboard
to the mountain top.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Sep 9, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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He's had every opportunity to hit
better than McGehee, though, and has choked it off just about every time.
Though as a late-inning defensive replacement, Pie’s certainly more valuable (and I think we all agree on that).
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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not this season
he hasn’t had that chance.
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by drewishdrewid on
Sep 9, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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Sigh...let the great Pie debates begin anew.
Whether 70 PAs this season constitutes “every opportunity to hit” is highly subjective. I don’t think it does. And to say he “choked it off just about every time” (?!) isn’t really accurate either.
He did have 14 hits and drew 4 walks in that span. Yeah, yeah…he whiffed 23 times, too. I don’t think anyone can argue he put on a great offensive performance, but 70 PAs (and early in the season, no less) is still a pretty small sample.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 9, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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How many games did the PA's happen in?
If he had them in less than 20 games, maybe the sample size is enough to reflect his skill. If his PA’s were spread over 25-30 games, IDK.
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by BigJohnAZ on
Sep 9, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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He's played in...
…exactly 30 major league games so far this season.
"I see the playoff schedule posted in the paper, and that stuff makes me nervous because you can't take anything for granted. We have a great team. We have a really good team. We're playing well, but we haven't won yet." - Jim Edmonds, 8/31/08
by dat cubfan daver on
Sep 9, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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30 games ought to be enough to judge a ballplayers worth - MDBNIU
640K ought to be enough memory for anybody. -Bill Gates
Trust me, these Indians won’t put up much of a fight. – Gen. George Custer
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by santoswoodenlegs on
Sep 9, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on
Sep 9, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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So sayeth Decca to Brian Epstein
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by BigJohnAZ on
Sep 9, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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If that was an absolute
Robin Ventura would have never had a career.
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by BigJohnAZ on
Sep 9, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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Corey Patterson looked horrible last night.
He’s hitting .206 and looked bad until the 9th inning when he kept the Reds rally alive with an infield single off the pitcher.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on
Sep 9, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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Apologies, since I'm sure it's been asked and answered a million times already...
…but when was the last time the Cubs made the playoffs two years in a row?
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Sep 9, 2008 9:14 AM CDT 0 recs
1907 and 1908
Thier last two World Series wins
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by MerlinDog on
Sep 9, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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Two very good years, IIRC
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 9:26 AM CDT
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The first two seasons
they were officially “The Cubs.” Baseball Reference lists 1903 as the first year they were called “The Cubs” and that’s probably right, but nicknames were just that back then—nicknames—and different writers called them different things. (Luckily, “the Microbes” didn’t catch on.) In 1907, Frank Chance insisted that every writer call them “The Cubs.” I assume he wouldn’t speak to the writers if they called them something else. But 1907 was the first year someone on the team insisted that they were “The Cubs.”
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on
Sep 9, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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Two in a Row
Would be an amazing accomplishment….this would be the first consecutive post seasons since 07 and 08 if Im not mistaken, correct?
Man that would be great if the Brewers fell flat andmissed the playoffs totally….Cubs v Brewers is really becoming one of the best rivalries in the game…so my disdain for milwaukee is growing year by year (the team that is, never been to the city)
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Sep 9, 2008 9:14 AM CDT 0 recs
Yes, but...
In 1907 and 1908 postseason meant the World Series. Now with the two playoffs rounds and the division championships it’s easier to get into the postseason.
by Fraggin Judge on
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What I learned on Sunday
After struggling to gather myself after watching the 9th inning implosion I handed the remote to my wife (so I wouldn’t throw the damn thing). She began watching come creepy show about pageant girls. Anyway, one girl spoke about how her mother would get so nervous watching her compete in pageants. The girl said, “I don’t know what the big deal is, it is going to happen the way it happens.” I never thought I would gain comfort through beauty pageants, but there you go. That being said, I’m truthfully trying to avoid watching the St. Louis series. The Cards series are always hard for me and I don’t want to hear Al Haborsky talking about gaining momentum on the Cubs and all that crap. So we’ll see how I do. After all it will happen how it happens.
"Bring On The Major Leagues" Stephen Malkmus
by graceunderpressure on Sep 9, 2008 9:15 AM CDT 0 recs
Weekend
Who do we root for this weekend?
I’d say go Phillies.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 9, 2008 9:15 AM CDT 0 recs
Phillies
Lets go Phils!
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
by flyingdonut on
Sep 9, 2008 9:22 AM CDT
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I say phillies also
But as long the Cubs win this weekend we move closer to a playoff spot one way the other. A philles lose moves us closer to at least a Wild Card and a brewers loses moves us closer to the division. Maybe with some luck all four games will extra innings and put both teams into a nosedive.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Sep 9, 2008 9:21 AM CDT 0 recs
Opps
that should be a reply to “weekend”
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by MerlinDog on
Sep 9, 2008 9:21 AM CDT
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If "Just Get In" is as important to you as you say...
The magic number should be twelve.
by DaveinHouston on Sep 9, 2008 9:22 AM CDT 0 recs
True enough, for postseason play.
Traditionally, magic numbers are shown for first place, though. That’s what I’m going with.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Sep 9, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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I'm good with getting the cold streak out of the way now
Teams simply cannot stay hot for 162 games…..having this slump now then breaking out of it will both energize and build confidence going into the playoffs. While I’m frustrated with the team and having a hard time watching lately, I’m not on the ledge. Weren’t we playing pretty GOOD ball when we went into AZ last year?
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by iluvryno on Sep 9, 2008 9:22 AM CDT 0 recs
They were, but my personal opinion on that is they simply ran out of gas. It took them so much to get there, and it took so long to do it, that they ran out of gas. Don’t have anything really to back that up, but that’s what I think.
by nmcubsfan on
Sep 9, 2008 9:24 AM CDT
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They've never quit so far
So far this year, every time their backs are against the wall, they come up big. That was the case after the all star break. they had been playing bad, and MIL had caught them, and their backs were against the wall. Lose to the fish, and you lose the lead. Lose to the brewers in the 4 game set, and things look really bad, but the cubs picked themselves up and came through. I expect them to do this. The games from here on out are huge: 6 withSTL, 6 with the brewers, 3 with the astros and 4 with the Mets. Every game counts big, and I think that this is where the cubs will come together, take care of business and get into the playoffs.
by nmcubsfan on Sep 9, 2008 9:23 AM CDT 0 recs
we can be philosophical about this........
but i think it is as simple as if they hit, they will be fine. If they continue to pound balls to the short stop and 3rd basemen and leave half of the world on base. we will fall and fall fast.
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by graceunderpressure on
Sep 9, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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That's the bane of every team, isn't it?
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by BigJohnAZ on
Sep 9, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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i don't understand why talking about...
…who you would want to play is a bad thing?!?
to a lot of people, like myself, it’s fun to talk about who you would want to see in the playoffs…..it’s like discussing during the offseason which free agents the cubs should go after
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Sep 9, 2008 9:24 AM CDT 0 recs
Fun to talk about..
…. but let’s keep our eyes on the prize, the first step of which is getting in. After that’s accomplished, then speculate all you want about who you’d rather play.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Sep 9, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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But why, Al?
We are not the ones playing the games. What we think about won’t change a thing. It’s fun to discuss what’s going on and what may come—part of the enjoyment of the season for many of us.
by jdb-44 on
Sep 9, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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If ifs and buts were six packs, we'd all be hung over tomorrow
Though I do agree with you – it’s fun to discuss potential and/or hypothetical matchups, but it’s irrelevant unless we’re in the playosffs (and I understand that you understand that).
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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sorry but that logic makes no sense
that’s like saying we shouldn’t discuss what we think is going to happen in upcoming games bc it’s irrelevant unless we win
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by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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OK
The Cubs’ potential postseason opponents will not have any chance of actually being the Cubs’ postseason opponents unless the Cubs actually make it to the postseason.
Better?
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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well yah....doesn't that go without saying?!?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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Ergo, my first comment made total sense
Owned.
I was responding to Al’s “first-things-first” comment, saying that ya gotta get there before you discuss matchups. My point was that it’s OK to discuss, regardless. Hell – ESPN has a whole TV series devoted to the “what if?” thing.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
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by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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amen
us simply talking about something will make no difference on how the cubs actually play
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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"We're so sorry.....Uncle Al..."
we’re so sorry if we caused you any pain…we’re sorry Uncle Albert, but the kettles on the boil and I believe it’s gonna rain."
That said—I agree. As Pop fisher said in my all time favorite movie. “Don’t jinx this thing and lay off the booze….no more booze.”

"Never. Never. Never. Give up."
Winston Churchill
by cubfever7 on
Sep 9, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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c'mon
you actually think you are significant enough to have an impact on how the cubs play?!? you sitting here on some blog will absolutely NO affect on the outcome of this season
this is along the same lines when people say “don’t talk about a no hitter” when you are sitting at home on couch in west des moines iowa…..sorry folks be realistic
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by cubswynn on
Sep 9, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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Who crapped in your Cheerios?
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/
by lostinthevines on
Sep 9, 2008 10:50 AM CDT
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I thought they were Coco-puffs...
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on
Sep 9, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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now they are coco-puffs
but people are delusional about how much power they have over games simply by the words that the speak
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