Cubs near signing Takahashi?
From MLBTR...
Patrick Newman of NPB tracker is relaying a report from Japanese-based Sports Hochi that states the Cubs are close to inking a one-year deal with left-handed pitcher Ken Takahashi.
Newman calls it "very early speculation," but it's definitely a situation worth eying. Sports Hochi believes that Takahashi would be used mostly in middle relief by the Cubs and could be in line for some spot starts. According to the report, the Cubs are looking for support for Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome. Others have drummed up a similar idea in the past.
While I dont think the Cubs NEED another bullpen arm, its good to see that Hendry is out looking to give Cotts some competition. It also suggests that Fukudome's decline could have been (according to the Cubs) partially mental...
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we need
a dominant bullpen arm.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 11, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree.
Marmol, Guzman (if healthy), Shark (if in the pen) and Vizcaino are hard throwers. If you mean dominant as in ‘doesnt give up any base runners, hits, or walks’ then I’d agree, we need more, but who doesnt. I think that the Cubs have a solid pen going into spring training and this signing would promote competition between some of the fringe arms.
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by Ryan at Cubshub on Jan 11, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what I mean to say
was dominant lefty arm. too many ifs in the bullpen for my liking. if the new closer does well, if guzman can stay healthy, if shark isnt a starter, if gregg doesnt pitch like joe borowski, if vizcaino dont serve pitches up on a tee…..our bullpen gives me a bad feeling as of right now.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Expect Shark To Be In The 'Pen...
… in fact, expect him to be in AAA to start the season…
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by initram on Jan 12, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lefty for the pen?
Sounds like a risk worth taking. The Cubs need to open the left-handed reliever job up in Spring Training, and letting Takahashi and Cotts battle it out (Marshall will have a spot somewhere I’m sure) sounds good to me.
If signing a Japanese player helps Fukudome, that’d be a bonus, too.
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by Trey2317 on Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This could be a sign that theyre at least entertaining the idea of letting Marshall start…..dont know a thing about this guy, but if he can be a LOOGY, then great
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jan 11, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
numbers
what are the stats on this guy?? is he almost 40??
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stats/info on Takahashi...
…can be found here.
He’ll be 40 years old for most of ‘09, and in ’08 had a Michael Wuertz-like WHIP of 1.435 – and that’s in the Japanese leagues, mind you. I understand the need to give Kosuke a little company, but this guy doesn’t seem like the answer to me. No thanks.
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by hip2bsquare on Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
I assume this will be another Takatsu like signing
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jan 11, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we can as good of a year out of this guy
as the Sox did from Shingo, I’d be happy to have him.
by dakoose on Jan 12, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't be too expensive
But then again, we’ve (arguably) over paid for Bradley and Miles
by Waveland Ave on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Overpaid for Bradley and Miles???
What are you basing it on? Certainly not their 2008 values (or in Bradley’s case, any value he’s put up in the last 5 years, save for his 2005 season with the Dodgers).
by Wreckard on Jan 11, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean Marshall...
…becomes the fifth starter and Cotts and Takahashi are the lefties in the ‘pen? If this is the case, then there’d be no trade or free-agent signing to add to the rotation, right?
I like Marshall as a swing guy and hope the Cubs go after someone else to round out the rotation, but I’m (thankfully) not Jim Hendry.
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by neonverse1 on Jan 11, 2009 11:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Think We Can Read Into It...
… perhaps this is a minor league signing with an invite to Spring Training?
What is more intriguing to me is if this does happen now, he will likely occupy a 40-man roster spot, right? There are no spots left, so this may force Hendry’s hand via DFA… or force his hand for a trade — a trade that I have been anxiously anticipating.
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by initram on Jan 12, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we needed
another lefty anyway. At least to compete with Cotts in Spring Training. And if he makes the team I can’t imagine it being anything but good for Fukudome.
by JJDiesel21 on Jan 11, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well the article in the mlbtr link
says there is no mention of this in the japanese media at all….i agree with the NPB post though, give Otsuka a try, hes a proven MLB reliever
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jan 11, 2009 11:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The official site has some info
It says that the Cubs have considered hiring a Japanese hitting coach to help Fukudome. Interesting.
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by neonverse1 on Jan 11, 2009 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that's probably a better option
you don’t have to give up a roster spot for him, plus the guy could actually help his hitting out
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by Chanman25 on Jan 12, 2009 6:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this more a move
to get a decent lefty for the bullpen, or is this just a move to give Fukudome a friend?
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by All The Way on Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
probably the latter
Erm, well if we are going to call Milton Bradley nicknames, mine is Fischer Price: yes, you heard it here first..
by Chanman25 on Jan 12, 2009 6:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
… both.
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by initram on Jan 12, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The idea
of getting another Japanese player to complement ‘Dome is intriguing,but during the season the cameras showed him talking to Lee and Soriano (I think mostly Lee). Don’t they both speak some Japanese? A forty year old pitcher changing leagues doesn’t exactly get the smiley face. All kidding aside, what about Tuffy Rhoades as his personal hitting coach?
by ChicagoRobb on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love that people still remember Tuffy Rhodes
I was at his 3 homerun game….
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jan 12, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember seeing Tuffy
Play for my hometown Omaha Royals… man, that seems like a thousand years ago…
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by The Guy Who Accidentally Saved the World on Jan 12, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
language
I dont know how much those two would remember, Soriano played there when he was a teenager, right? and Lee was an Army brat? So I doubt they have any level of fluency
Fact is, there are several, viable Japanese relievers we could sign, but this seems a bit odd. We couldve taken a flyer on Saito, and Otsuka is still available or Koji Mitsui.
I think it could work, a newly imported Japanese reliever would be completely uknown to the rest of the league, so that would work to our advantage for the first year
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jan 12, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops, his dad played there
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jan 12, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems rather pointless.
I should also point out that, as noted, the original article says “very early speculation”, which to me doesn’t translate as “close”, in Japanese or any other language.
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by Al on Jan 12, 2009 3:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cubs don't have a real LOOGY
If Marshall is slated to compete for a rotation spot than who other than Cotts. Personally I would like $2.5M spent on a proven Guardado but if this 40 year old has something that facing one or two lefties who cannot adjust in the few AB’s well that is another.
Heck he might be a chef as well and able to prepare Fukudome’s meals as well.
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by Ivy Walls on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be best to avoid this guy
Hiring a friend for a player is one thing if that player were Zambrano or Aramis. We don’t need to waste a roster spot on a below-average pitcher just to make the left-handed half of a platoon happy.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 12, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It may be just a spring-training friend...
… sort of like Shingo Takatsu was last year.
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by Al on Jan 12, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be okay
I like the idea of bringing over a Japanese hitting coach more though.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 12, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Almost 40
and I don’t like the K/9 inning ratio. Don’t bring him in to be someone’s friend, but bring him in if they think he can help the club. If he’s just a “spring training friend” fine.
Anyone know how the Japanese K/9 innings stat translates to MLB level competition?
by jerry morales rules on Jan 12, 2009 9:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Information.
I have heard that there is absolutely no truth to this rumor… so maybe we should move on.
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by Al on Jan 12, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yup, Cubs officially deny rumor.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 12, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Report Says...
… that they are not close. That can change instantaneously.
Either way, I highly doubt Hendry wants to DFA anyone, which he would have to do if he signed another FA.
IMO, a trade is next…
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by initram on Jan 12, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I repeat what I said.
There’s nothing to this. It won’t happen.
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by Al on Jan 12, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we need another lefty in the pen
people keep calling for more righties or are saying “we are set”.nDoes anybody not see this… you need more than just Cotts….i feel like i am taking crazy pills , if its not Takahashi…it will be somebody else
by Maefster88 on Jan 12, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, this is debatable.
Somebody check me on this, but it doesn’t seem to me like Lou is a big LOOGY user to begin with. (Where art thou, Scott Eyre?) So getting another lefty besides Cotts may not be a huge priority.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 13, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching staff is complete in my view
I doubt strongly that Hendry will make any more moves that impact the competition for pitching jobs. I think he is content to go to camp with what the Cubs have. Can’t say that I blame him given that he very doubtful has any more money to spend. Plus the rest of the NL Central is stuck in place or going backwards.
I think the 5th spot in the rotation comes down to Sean Marshall or Chad Gaudin.
Bullpen? Assuming of course that injuries don’t bite… Marmol, Gregg, Gaudin (nod to Marshall for the rotation), Vizcaino, Cotts….with Hart, Guzman, Stevens, Ascanio, Wells battling it out for two final spots.
I say Jeff Spellcheck starts the year at Triple A pitching out of their rotation.
by BLou on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I cannot disagree.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 13, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't the Cubs just sign Jackie Chan? The quotes would
be better and they would get a lot more publicity. This sound like a bunch of nothing. Next.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 13, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ha, if they signed Jackie Chan...
…they’d have to keep Felix Pie, who’s a dead ringer for Chan’s Rush Hour cohort Chris Tucker.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 13, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking for Jun Tao? Has anyone seen Jun Tao?
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 13, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMIN' OUTTA MY MOUTH?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 13, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
War! Huh! Yeah, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again!
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