8% OF MLB PLAYERS USING ADHD MEDS
Did anyone else here catch the stories that MLB has indicated that roughly 8.2% of MLB players were given therapeutic use exemptions (TUE's) allowing them to take STIMULANTS (Ritalin, Adderall) which are otherwise banned drugs . In 2007 the number of TUE's requested jumped from 28 to 103. Last season there were 114 players permitted to use the otherwise banned stimulants under this exemption program. That is more Ritalin use than a college campus during finals week!!!! In contrast to the fact that 3-5% of children are believed to suffer from ADHD, this outbreak in major league baseball is an epidemic. To quote Dr. Gary Wadler, chairman of committee that determines the World Anti-Doping Agency’s banned-substances list. “If we had this percentage increase in the general population, it would be on the evening news as a national epidemic. It’s an outrageous number.” These otherwise banned STIMULANTS increase reaction time (improved hand/eye coordination!!), focus, and time on task.
While there may be MLB players who truly need these medications, it appears that MLB is quickly being cajoled into colluding in a new substance abuse scandal before the cloud of the recent steroid scandal has passed.
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Is there a link?
What do you mean by “otherwise banned”?
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by Al on
Jan 12, 2009 11:01 AM CST
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I'm guessing he means
….that ADHD drugs are amphetamines, like any other amphetamine. Without a TUE you’d get a suspension for doping by using them.
I’ve always wondered why people got upset about steroid use but gave stimulant use a free pass in baseball. In a game where the smallest amount of reaction time can make a big difference, I can almost see stimulants helping you more than steroids. Not with hitting home runs per se, but with hitting and fielding in general.
Of course, that would call into question an era of baseball that the writers would rather romanticize.
by Wreckard on
Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM CST
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I have long had this same thought...
The ability to be more alert during a game especially considering all of the travel these guys do has to have had an impact on their performance.
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by TheRiot Police on
Jan 12, 2009 11:31 AM CST
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These are otherwise specifically banned substances
Without an approved TUE from Dr. Bryan Smith, MLB independent program administrator at the request of a team physician, these stimulants violate MLB random drug testing program. The approved use of these stimulants by more than 8% of MLB players is astronomically above any reasonable expectations. There are quite a few Google hits on the subject…………
by cubssouvenirman on
Jan 12, 2009 11:30 AM CST
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Clearly, MLB has signed off on these drugs.
You think less than 8% of the population needs ADD meds? Think again.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jan 12, 2009 11:34 AM CST
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ADD Meds are incredibly over-prescribed
I think what you’re really saying here is “you think less than 8% of the population has trouble paying attention and learning,” which is something I’d agree with.
The notion that those 8% should be given amphetamines to solve this problem, rather, say, than being taught new strategies for learning and functioning in society, is specious. Using heavy stimulants to get people to pay attention better is like using a chainsaw to open an egg. Sure it’ll work, but there might be a less dangerous way to do it.
And don’t confound ADD with ADHD. Two different things.
by Wreckard on
Jan 12, 2009 11:39 AM CST
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it isn't just paying attention
Far too many people seem to think that being on Ritalin and other meds is just about being able to sit still in class… it isn’t. It is about being able to socialize with others and develop effective relationships. Its not just about math class… its about gym, recess and overall behavior.
I’m not saying that there aren’t kids on meds who shouldn’t be but some people (and i’m not saying wreckard is one of them) are far too quick to dismiss the need for some people to be on meds.
by dmlichte on
Jan 12, 2009 11:45 AM CST
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Exactly.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jan 12, 2009 2:20 PM CST
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Thanks
For sticking up for us BCB’s that have ADHD and need the medication.
That being said, I could see a definite baseball advantage to taking the drug recreationaly. A day game after a night game for example.
by PieFan08 on
Jan 12, 2009 4:57 PM CST
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Right, but if you don't have approval from MLB doctors...
… if you do that, you’re going to get suspended.
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by Al on
Jan 12, 2009 5:58 PM CST
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What do you take???
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 13, 2009 5:32 PM CST
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Or are acknowledging excess requests...
Identification of LD’s (learning disorders) and BD’s (behaivior disorders) is an essential part of current academic program and teachers are required under the No Child Left Behind Act to have teaching certificates which require training in ADD and ADHD disorders. They effect approximately 3-5% of children with 10% to 40% of individuals diagnosed in childhood continuing to meet diagnostic criteria in adulthood.
by cubssouvenirman on
Jan 12, 2009 11:48 AM CST
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I know the LaRoche brother from the Pirates (andy it think)
Has struggled with ADHD his whole career. I remember hearing about how sometimes at the plate or at first base his mind just starts to wander and he misses plays because he can’t pay attention.
For players who really do have this condition, they actually need their medication in order to play.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on
Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM CST
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To clarify,
Adam LaRoche plays 1st base, Andy LaaRoche plays 3rd base.
Adam is the player taking medication for ADD.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Jan 12, 2009 11:18 AM CST
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I knew I would pick the wrong guy
You can see sometimes in the field when Adam just can’t keep his focus.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on
Jan 12, 2009 11:26 AM CST
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Story Link
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Jan 12, 2009 11:14 AM CST
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As an ADHD guy myself...
I can confess that I would be afraid for the lives of others on the road if I didn’t take my medication.
The fact that ADHD is showing up in professional athletes is no surprise.
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by IowaCubs- on
Jan 12, 2009 11:14 AM CST
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CSN Chicago
did a very interesting story on Scott Eyre a couple of years ago. Part of the story was Scott being diagnosed with ADD and how the medication has helped him to overcome his illness to be a successful MLB pitcher.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on
Jan 12, 2009 11:20 AM CST
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I have wondered..
how may baseball players have ADHD since i began taking adderall myself about 3 years ago. I had been working rotating shift work at a refinery for a couple of years, and gained about 50 pounds, and was always tired. My Dr. prescribed adderall, and It is unbeliveable how much different I felt. I lost all the weight I had gained and began running and lifting weights daily, and always felt great. I am a long way from being an athelete, but I can tell you that this could be a bigger advantage than steroids!!
by wfree0104 on
Jan 12, 2009 11:26 AM CST
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All due respects to the Dr...
… i take issue with this all.
First, let me start by not casting any opinion pro or anti meds, the supposed over diagnosis of ADD/HD, and the myriad of societal issues surrounding all of this.
I know a thing or two about kids and ADD/HD. I’ve spent the better part of the last two decades working with kids and I know rather intimately about this situation.
My first question is the statistic
that 3-5% of children are believed to suffer from ADHD
. First issue is the use of the term ADHD. Is this also including ADD. ADD and ADHD are different diagnosis. ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder. ADHD = Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. When referring to both diagnosis at the same time, ADD/HD is used. So is the belief that 3-5% suffer from ADHD or ADDHD? The two are different however both often call for the use of similar meds.
Second issue is the “believed to suffer” part. Is this the number who are diagnosed or is this extrapolated to represent the country as a whole. Individuals in higher socioeconomic classes have greater access to health care and due to other factors are much more likely have their ADD/HD diagnosed. I’d certainly say that baseball players are in this socioeconomic and certainly have the access to health care.
Along with this, you need to consider a very important factor… males vs females. Again, I take issue with the 3-5% and clarification is needed. However, whatever the percentage is of youth with ADD/HD, the vast majority of that 3-5% are males. Yes, males and females both have ADD/HD. Females with ADD/HD are far less likely to have their ADD/HD diagnosed because their ADD/HD takes a very different form. Females tend to display internal behavior issues while males display external issues. These external issues are far more disruptive to those around them (family, friends, classroom). This is not to say that there aren’t as many females with ADD/HD as there are males. It is to say that males w/ ADD/HD are much more likely to have their ADD/HD diagnosed. Last time I checked MLB is still without female players.
As I said, I work with kids and I do so in a residential setting, therefor we see the number of meds coming in. Far more than 3-5% of the population we deal with come with ADD/HD meds (and many are taken off their meds during their time with us).
I read this article yesterday and the lack of research and real knowledge behind it was disturbing to me.
by dmlichte on
Jan 12, 2009 11:42 AM CST
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I wonder how many players are using it while not having adhd?
I know people who have faked it to get prescribed adderall for better focus and better performance.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
by Rudey on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 PM CST
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my point exactly
The approval for 8% of MLB players to use these otherwise specifically banned stimulants is so far above what the actual incidence should should be that I am very skeptical that there is abuse. I am glad to see that at least one other BCB poster agrees that there is a fair possibility of this. As it is, a requaest from a team physician to MLB’s independent program administrator is like saying “I got a note from my mommy”…..and there appear to be far too many notes! ! !
by cubssouvenirman on
Jan 12, 2009 12:19 PM CST
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ADD/HD
The approval for 8% of MLB players to use these otherwise specifically banned stimulants is so far above what the actual incidence should should be
In your opinion, what should it be and what is your basis for this?
by dmlichte on
Jan 12, 2009 12:26 PM CST
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basis and opinion
Dr. Gary Wadler, chairman of committee that determines the World Anti-Doping Agency’s banned-substances list
Wikipedia
Dr. Rusell Barkley
The National Institute of Mental Health estimates 3 percent to 5 percent of children have ADHD, according to its website. Only 10% to 40% of individuals diagnosed in childhood continue to meet diagnostic criteria in adulthood.
by cubssouvenirman on
Jan 12, 2009 12:58 PM CST
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yes...
… but ADD and ADHD are two different things, both of which use meds like Ritalin and Aderall and as I mentioned in the above post, there are a lot of questions in the article. 8.2% have the exemption, but is the exemption for ADHD, ADD, both, etc… this is just not a well written article.
by dmlichte on
Jan 12, 2009 1:05 PM CST
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I guess Viagra use has decreased since Palmeiro left the game
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on
Jan 12, 2009 12:32 PM CST
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8% seems high
I’ve heard that 3-5% for kids (mine fall into that category) and with that I was tested, twice. Guess what? Me too. But back in the 60’s a kid that wouldn’t sit still like me just got a paddling.
I’ve tried numerous things with my kids in an effort to not take meds. I didn’t want to drug my kids; me??? That’s fine, them no, however…. They’ve tried all kinds of things, we’ve had brain scans, tested them for sleep apnia and allergies even went through therapy at the family level. Nothing works except for the meds. And the only meds we use now are Focalin XR. We never tried Ritalin given all the stories. Adderal, Strattera, Concerta… they all had profound affects on their appetites and other behavioural episodes.
Now my kids and me all take Focalin XR. And the difference is utterly amazing.
My older kid and me have ADHD, my younger ADD. So at least for our family the difference between the “H” and without the “H” isn’t all that much.
I can only wish I had this stuff when I was in school. This explains a very lot to me and what I remember about my youth 30-40 years ago.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 12, 2009 1:22 PM CST
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Over winter break my brother told me a story
about studying for finals that he recently took. A floor mate of his gave him some Adderal. Once he took it, he studied for a little bit and tried to go to sleep. He couldn’t. He layed there for 15 minutes wide awake. So he studied some more. For many hours without stop. Then he played Tetris. For 4 hours straight. He said time flew by and he doesn’t remember all of it. He said he was zoned in the entire time. I can definitely see how that can be beneficial to a baseball player.
Oh and he didn’t sleep. Went all the way throught the night studying and playing Tetris.
by ChiCubs23 on
Jan 12, 2009 4:24 PM CST
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The First Time
Is a little disorienting. Once you get used to eat, it is easy to get back on schedule.
by PieFan08 on
Jan 12, 2009 4:59 PM CST
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Most of those meds are stimulants
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 13, 2009 5:29 PM CST
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I see kids every day who wouldn't be able to function in their environment without meds
As a teacher, I can see clearly as night and day within minutes if certain students of mine are “OTM” (off the meds). One of my students with ADD told me this joke:
Q: How many kids with ADD does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: “…Let’s go ride bikes!”
Hypothetical: What if a player suffered from a pituitary gland disorder and a doctor prescribed HGH to treat it. Same exclusion?
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by Fuk-U-Meter on
Jan 12, 2009 4:59 PM CST
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I would think yes.
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by Al on
Jan 12, 2009 5:59 PM CST
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The joke is funny, and I can laugh at it even though
I have ADHD and take meds for it.
But for those who don’t know what it’s like, think of several things going through your head at one time, or better yet, try to listen to 5 radio stations at the same time.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 13, 2009 5:31 PM CST
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or Hawk Harrelson interviewing Ozzie Guillen... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Jan 13, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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