Lots more on the Convention
Um it will be a bit disjointed but I think I figured out the paragraph thing. I am kind of surprised more people have not posted about various panels etc so here goes.
The management meeting was well covered but I admit the NOT FOR WOMEN only session right after is my guilty pleasure. Judy Markey and Kathy O'Malley took a panel of Johnson, Samardzija, Theriot, Marshall and Miles and got them to say a lot of funny goofy things mostly about their personal lived. I can't possibly sum it up but but besides Reeds new hair and lack of old hair it coverd Angelina Jolie , Selma Hayak, Billy Bob Thornton, "manscaping", getting to first base with your first girl and various utterly unbaseball topics. Players went with the flow and who knew Theriot and Johnson were an item ? Best question was asking the other four if they could spell Smardzija's name without cheating ( um they cheated). Best answer ( also reported in one of the papers was spellcheck explaining that Ben & Jerry's oatmeal crunch was like crack though of course he had no first hand experience of crack.
I caught parts of several early afternoon sessions. I was only at the 84 team one for about 20 minutes from which I learned everyone loved Gary Matthews but he could not come because he was on the train with Obama and a lot of guys ( but not particularly the ones on the panel) did not like Jim Frey. Caught the last part of Game Day experience which had to do with various rituals & superstitions . Lot of funny and weird stuff but the one between Fontenot and Koyie Hill is a little too weird and obsene for a "family blog". Fontenot said he was not really sure where the whole thing with Z "pounding" him came from but the bit of him piggy backing on Z was not a favorite of Larry Rothschild or the training staff and would not continue. I missed both the Welcome to Wrigley session ( with the new players) and Clubhouse Entertainers ( I had to eat some time) and would love to hear from anyone that went.
In the late afternoon I went to my other guilty pleasure, the kids only press conference because in fact kids do say the darndest things. It is both silly and sweet and the players seem to enjoy dealing with the kids. They struggled to deal with questions like who was their best friend on the team and if they were ever chased by girls ? At 4 I went to the last session of the day , which was on Z's no hitter. Soto who was to be on the panel never made the convention but Z can pretty much do these things on his own. It got off to a great start when moderator Len Kasper read the front page article about himself from the special convention issue of The Heckler ( google it ,the whole issue is brilliant as always). which was followed by Z's funny recolection of meeting Len for the first time. The Q & A got off to a bad start when a jerk went up, praised Z and then asked to sign a jersey. This is a big no-no as that is what the morons are suppossed to stand in line for. Z obliged but I wish the security had stopped him. Later ANOTHER idiot did same and the boos grew louder. Then a kid comes up with a ball says he is a catcher in little league and Z is his favorite player, everyone starts to groan assuming the kid is going to ask Z to sign the ball but he gives it to Z and asks him to THROW it to him as it would be his biggest thrill. He does , kid walks away does not ask for an autograph a REAL fan moment. As mentioned before Z's DEAD ON imitation of Lou brought the house down. It was a wonderful session.
A few general notes. There is no doubt that a majority of the folks there are somewhat scary , autograph obsessed geeks. ( I am merely a regular baseball geek). This was summed by seeing people SLEEPING in front of the hall Friday night to get Billy Williams autograph and the one time I went down to get one myself. I had some time to kill and say Rick Reuschel was signing. Rick was probably the best Cub starter in my most formative years as in when they really sucked save a few guys like him, I got at the end of the line but it did not seem to move and I noticed people going past me and I thought they were joining friends. Finally I asked and was told if I wanted Reuschel I could move up past most of the line, they were WAITING FOR AARON MILES who would be signing in another 30 minutes. So instead of waiting for a really important Cub and terrific pitcher they were waiting for a nice personable utility infielder.
Last thing my favorite story from the convention was from Koyie Hill who said that about 3 days after he joined the D'Backs as their starting catcher who lost track of the outs and after a batter who was only the 2nd out, grounded out he got up to go in the dugout and suddenly realized in horror no one was behind him, he pretended he wanted a drink but was mortified that this would pretty much destroy his reputation with his new teammates ( No one was on of course)when he got back to the plate he begged the umpire to cover for him explaining that since he was new this would be devastating, the umpire told the other umps etc that HE had made the mistake and TOLD Hill it was the 3rd out. Nice story.
It was also nice to meet fellow BCBers Shanghai Badger and Damien Jackson
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I listend to Not For Women on WGN.Com
I’ll have to say it wasn’t as entertaining as the last two. Perhaps Theriot ran out of inappropriate comments? It just seemed more PG than other years. That is unless they censored part of it on the audio?
Thanks for the other updates. I wasn’t there this year so it’s nice to read your experiences!
Awesome story about Z throwing the kid a "fastball"
That kid will have a story to tell his friends all year! Hell i’m almost 30 and i’d get a kick out of it. haha
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by ambrosiadreams on Jan 19, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions
The honorable Crane Kenney, a liar?
Crane Kenney claims the priest, (Greanias) had initially approached him.
The priest says Kenney’s story is not true and that the Cubs had called him out of the blue to ask him to remove the Billy Goat curse.
Who do you believe? Crane Kenney or an Orthodox priest?
We'll never know, will we.
In any case, Kenney said it was one of the dumbest things he has done. He’s right about that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
the priest was from Valparaiso
I’m not sure who to believe but last time I checked there were quite a few Greek Orthodox churches in Chicago. Seems odd that Kenney would have to go all the way to Valparaiso to find a Greek Orthodox priest, doesn’t it? Heck, he coulda just gone over to John Kass’ desk and get a few references from him.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
nobody
cares.
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 20, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
The Score
The Score as per the Score’s MO was blowing this way out of proportion this afternoon. The way they covered it you would think Kenney had taken out a gun and shot 20 people.
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by puckishcubsfan on Jan 20, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
That's the Score for you
If you’re not a Sox and/or Bears fan, forget about it.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Not sure who I belileve
but I suspect the truth is somewhere in between. I have trouble believing the Cubs needed to go to Valpairaso to find a Greek Orthodox priest if they were looking for one. Last I checked there were plenty available in the city itself.
Best guess is that both sides are streching this one.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 19, 2009 11:35 PM CST reply actions
The plot thickens...
Maybe the priest is actually a Sox fan, who lied his way in so that instead of removing “the curse” actually went in with a plan to reinforce “the curse”?
On the other hand, what if they started asking in Chicago and worked there way out till they finally found an Orthodox priest who was willing to do it?
The truth, as usual, is probably somewhere in the middle
My guess is that someone on the staff contacted the priest and got him to contact Kenney.
Either way, the end result is that it was indeed stupid.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 20, 2009 5:50 AM CST up reply actions
Shifty the blame?
A stupid act yes, and thus Crane Kenney had good reason to shift the blame to the priest. And if what the priest says is true, and Kenney twisted the tale to try and take some of the blame away from himself does it cause Cubbie fans to question other stories Crane Kenny told that day?
“It was the woman you gave me…” said Adam.
Can we drop this now?
It’s a blip. Kenney admitted he made a mistake.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
AND...
… it clearly demonstrates that there is reason to question the stories Kenney tells.
- Kenney said one thing.
- Orthodox Priest says the opposite thing.
Al, you said to me that unless you heard something contradicting Kenney’s story with “some credibility,” you were going with Kenney and his story.
Someone is “fudging” here in this priest issue. If what the priest says is true (and no doubt there is good reason to say he has “some credibility”) it sure calls into question the credibility of stories Kenney’s related.
Yeah, move on and drop it. I think I see why…
Can you see why this should be dropped?
It’s a pointless little story. Kenney admitted he screwed up. Isn’t that enough?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
depends.
I agree this should be dropped but not because Kenney admitted he screwed up. It should be dropped because it’s a pointless little story.
But what if it was a big story – I’m gonna go with something outlandish here to make my point… What if stories started coming out that Cubs were going to build a new stadium elsewhere. Credible stories from credible sources. Real estate values in Wrigleyville drop dramatically (more than they already have). Then somebody lets it slip that this was all part of a master plan so Zell could buy up all the rooftop buildings and change the Wrigley Field dynamics dramatically. [told you this was going to be outlandish] Wrigleyville is up in arms and there’s plenty of outrage to go around.
Zell goes public and admits he screwed up. Should that be the end of it? I don’t think so…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Of course not, in that case.
But I think you can see that telling a pointless little story is far different than the scenario you have constructed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
yep - and it being a pointless little story is the argument you should be using to counter DrCrawdad
Looking at this as a third party, when I see the ‘Kenney admitted he screwed up isn’t that enough’ argument, I can see how that could hint at a coverup. Certainly not likely, but there’s enough there to fuel Crawdad’s fire.
Stick to the pointless little story angle and you give him no room to maneuver. If he wants to keep this going, well then, he’s spending all his energy on a pointless little story – the rest of us have moved on.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Ouch,
My head is spinning trying to figure out why this went this far, why its so important, and even moreso, WHY DID I READ ALL OF THIS?!?!?!
Clarification
only on the bit about the preist, the rest was interesting.
Kudos for putting this together.
agh - should have read further before posting my comment above.
funny how we used almost the same words…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Around 4:30 PM Saturday Soto arrives
I was standing near one of the autograph lines, and Geo Soto and his lady storm through the crowd…late to the party apparently. Everyone was gawking at Harden they didn’t even realize the ROY walking through the crowd.
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wow?
he did eventually show up?
Was wondering who if anyone they replaced the Soto and Lou lottery autograph winners with.
by chicagodave on Jan 20, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
That is really tacky
Remember Geo was SUPPOSSED to be on the 4PM panel about Z’’s no hitter. I know he was late and missed the opening but how is it he was downstairs at 4 :30 but could not make the panel 30 minutes before that ? Frankly in retrospect anything that took time away from Z would have been a bad thing but I don’t think it puts Geo in a good light..
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 20, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
FYI, for those of you who don't pay attention to Fanshots...
…I posted a link to ’GN’s convention audio/video clips here.
RIP Ron Asheton (1948-2009)
As one of the Autographed obsessed Geeks
I feel it is my responsible to defend the behavior a little.
First, this convention is there to serve several purposes, one of which is to give the fans the opportunity to meet their favorite ballplayers past and present. There are a variety of ways in which these meetings can take place. It can be somewhere in the hotel (lobby, bar, etc), during one of the convention presentations, or during the autograph/picture sessions. While there are certainly vendors who take advantage of the convention, the majority of the folks seeking autographs are legit fans who just want to meet the player and have something to take away from that meeting.
Second, the crazy fans who sleep all night at the entrance to the convention hall…well lets just say that current process for getting autographs at the various stages is flawed and leads to this type of behavior. There has to be a better way. I don’t know if it is a wrist band system for each player/stage but the way that it is currently done is not ideal for either the casual autograph seeker or the serious one. I didn’t particularly enjoy waiting in line for 4 hours for Carlos Marmol but I knew that was the only way that I could guarantee that I would get him.
With all that said, I do not condone autograph seeking behavior that is over the top. This includes infringing upon a players personal space especially when they are with family, continuing to pester a player after he stops/refuses to sign, asking for an autograph during a session, etc.
So, in closing, lets remember that the convention is there to serve multiple purposes for multiple types of people and that some of the behavior is a reflection of the process and not the person themselves.
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Jan 20, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions
Part of me is glad for the autograph hunters
It leaves room for those of us to get something out of the panels. I just don’t get waiting in line 2 hours for Joey Gathright etc. You don’t get any real time when you get up there. I think if you run into a player in a bar that is cool . I might as well confess I did a very bad thing, I WON the scratch off autograph and got Ernie Banks. Well I met Ernie a LONG time ago when he came to enroll his daughter in my school and I got pulled out of class so he could meet the schools biggest Cub Fan ( I started young). Somewhere I haved his autograph. My 14 year old nephew was with me and frankly he is an autograph crazed fan and he wanted my ticket for the Ernie autograph but a man overheard me and offered $60. He said he had been waiting most of his life to get it. I also could have traded it for Z , Soriano , Lou ( guess how much I wanted that) but um I SOLD IT. I think I could have gotten more but the guy was sincere. Off the top of my head the only players I would wait in a long line for are Maddux, Dawson and Don Kessinger.
Glad you enjoyed it and hope you got some autographs. I ended up with four, Reuschel, Doug Glanville ( who I think I might already have had) TIm Stoddard ( lets just say I picked the WRONG place to do the autograph treasure hunt which was the only time this did not conflict with a panel) and Yosh Kawano. That last one was kind of special.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 20, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
The line for Yosh was one of the longer ones I saw.
He was sitting in a chair in the downstairs corridor.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Um when I saw him he was sitting IN the Business Center which is just off the corridor
Only about six people in line,. I told him getting his autogrpaph was more meaningful to me than 2/3rds of the players there.
He was very happpy to hear that.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 20, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
This year's haul was okay...
Got Jody, Keith, Dernier, Randy Hundley, and Carlos Marmol on baseballs. This brings my collection to over 30 autograph baseballs and leaves me only 3 short of having the entire starting 9 from the 84 team (missing Matthews, Bowa, and Ron Cey).
I could have gotten Yosh…he was sitting down next to one of the vendors booth but I he was engaged in some conversations and did not want to interupt.
My biggest prize though is an autographed Sandberg Jersey. I purchased a Sandberg Lottery…guy sold it to me for 60….it was well worth the opportunity to meet him and get the Jersey signed. Now, I just have to fork over some money to get it framed so that I can hang it in my man cave.
I will say that the players where not accessible this year as in year’s past. We have access to the 24th floor where the players check in because we are Hilton Gold Members. Security was a lot tighet this year and the floor was eventually closed for squatting do to some knuckleheads chasing after Ron Santo. Security informed us that Cubs Management and the players complained about the lack of security in years past and thus the hotel cranked it up this year. I certainly understand a protocol has to be followed and that some knuckleheads don’t but I also think it is little over the top for a player to not think they are going to get pestered at a fan fest when they are walking around the hotel. If they truly don’t want to be bothered by the fans, then don’t come to the convention. Exhibit A in this behavior was Bill Buckner. He sat in the Bar (adjacent to check in) with his Manager and a couple of other folks. He was totally put off by people asking him for autographs. That is certainly his perogative but IMO if he does not want to be bothered why not leave the hotel and go somewhere else for a drink. He did sign for a few people but you could tell that he did not want to sign for anyone.
Anyway…Decent convention and I look forward to attending my 8th one next year.
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by TheRiot Police on Jan 20, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
What you said earlier is spot-on
The way the autographs are set up brings out the worst in people. Every other team convention I’ve heard of has a better system. The Sox use wristbands, the Brewers and Twins charge for every autograph. Both of these save people from wasting their time in line only to get cut off at the last minute, and saves the chaos and anarchy of the double and sometimes triple lines that form.
Not that anyone cares
But the Packers give everyone in their programs four tickets. These four tickets are randomly printed in the book and correspond with a stage. This spreads everyone out over the entire convention. The cool thing is that the Packer players would come to the side of the stage and sign random people’s stuff if all the ticketed people had come through and his time on stage wasn’t over yet. I had four tickets, could only use 3, but got 9 autographs. Pretty sweet.
The best day to get autographs for me at the Cubs Convention is the first night during the scavenger hunt. Everyone is spread out over 10 or 11 players while there’s a lot of people shopping and at Sports Central.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Same Boat
Purchased a Sandberg ticket so I could get my Cooperstown jersey signed that I won a few years back at a Cubs game. So I didn’t feel as bad buying the chance to get his autograph since the jersey was won. Now I need to find somewhere to get it framed that won’t cost me an arm and a leg.
I think they need to count how many people are in line and cut it off at a certain spot so you are not wasting half the convention standing in line for 1 autograph. This was the first time back for me in 14 years and glad I went to the Q&A sessions more and not stand in the long lines as much.
With all this said… I will be back next year!
The worst player I remember ever was Terry Adams
He was hanging out at Kitty O’Shea’s with Kerry Wood and the older lady who sits behind the visitor’s dugout (and thinks she’s the cat’s a$$). Fan convention, hotel bar. Guess what’s likely to happen? He swore, screamed and indignantly complained to hotel employees. What a jackass. Gee, Terry, so sorry your career didn’t work out.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 20, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Adams
It was no coincidence that some of Kerry’s growing up off the field happened not just because he got older but because Adams and then Grace left the Cubs. He was a bit of a wild child off the field. He also met Sarah during this time.
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by puckishcubsfan on Jan 21, 2009 5:30 AM CST up reply actions
I think you're right about Wood
and the bad influences.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 21, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like the Terry Adams I know
I was working for the Indianapolis Indians when Terry wrapped up his career, trying to get back to the Major Leagues and increase his pension time.
We’d have 3 autograph days during the summer, lining the players up throughout our concourse so the fans could get autographs and interact with the team.
The one guy who practically refused to sign was Adams. His standard line was “I’m not getting paid to sign.” Getting him out there for a 20-minute signing was like pulling teeth.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Nice to see that he grew and matured
What an ass, eh?
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by Shanghai Badger on Jan 21, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
In short,
yes.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
In rebuttal - I'd like to serve as a character witness for the defense...
I saw Terry once in the Cubs parking lot after a game. His truck was parked near the fence on the Waveland side. He came out, a bunch of people asked for his autograph, he dumped his stuff in his truck, and then came over to the fence and started signing.
One little boy was so excited, he was jumping up and down the whole time – not like a pogo stick but more like a jackhammer. Small jumps but really really fast. When Terry got to him, he looked down at the boy and just laughed. “Easy there, little man. Why you so excited?” or something like that.
Boy replies – “I-I-I d-d-don’t kn-n-now, I-I-I j-j-just a-a-am…”
Adams laughs again, signs the kid’s program, reaches down and musses up his hair. Kid went running back to his parents, and last I saw, he was jumping all the way down Waveland…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I like your story better than mine and Trey's
I hope yours is closer to the real character of Adams.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 22, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Well you were nicer about that than I was going to be
This struck me as a little holier-than-thou:
There is no doubt that a majority of the folks there are somewhat scary , autograph obsessed geeks. ( I am merely a regular baseball geek). This was summed by seeing people SLEEPING in front of the hall Friday night to get Billy Williams autograph and the one time I went down to get one myself. I had some time to kill and say Rick Reuschel was signing. Rick was probably the best Cub starter in my most formative years as in when they really sucked save a few guys like him, I got at the end of the line but it did not seem to move and I noticed people going past me and I thought they were joining friends. Finally I asked and was told if I wanted Reuschel I could move up past most of the line, they were WAITING FOR AARON MILES who would be signing in another 30 minutes. So instead of waiting for a really important Cub and terrific pitcher they were waiting for a nice personable utility infielder.
First off, most of those people were waiting for Fontenot, who followed Miles. Which is slightly better, I guess? By the end of his hour, Miles had no line and the ropes were still full of what you think are plebeians, apparently, waiting for Fontenot.
As someone who enjoys both the programs and the autographs at the convention, I find that there’s plenty of hilariously broken people to go around at the convention. To me there isn’t a huge difference between sitting through hours of programs to learn about Theriot’s first kiss and waiting around for an hour or two to get a souvenir from one of your favorite Cubs. Both are fans looking for a way to interact with their favorite ballplayers.
And c’mon DS – are you really going to get sanctimonious about the obsessiveness of others? Between hundreds of posts expounding on the saintly virtues of Maddux, and organizing “silent protests” over the departure of Wood??? Glass houses, etc.
Sorry but I still don't get the autograph obsession
Ii get to each his own and while the FOR WOMEN ONLY is a guilty pleasure the real meat of the Convention for me are the panels devoted to stuff like personel & management.and sometimes history.I actually have only gone 3 times total and am inclined to skip it next year. In general I have never been big on fan/player interaction. I find it kind of scary in that I just don’t really want to know what these guys are like for the most part. I once watched Maddux throw batting practice from the railing at an ST game but contrary to my moniker I have never come close to meeting him, much less stalking him. Of couse it may be an age thing. I mean
Fontenot might be of more interest than Miles but for an old geezer like me Reuschel is the one I would give up 20 minutes to get an autograph for. I met a lot of nice people in the line but I saw too many more who seemed either to be in it almost profesionally
or seemed to plan their life around it.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 20, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Look I don't get knitting and antiquing
…but you don’t see me getting on a high horse about it.
Just saying: there’s plenty of strange and broken people on both sides of that convention. Getting in a huff because kids these days would rather line up for Aaron Miles than sit through Cubs Jeopardy or wait for a Cubs pitcher who retired before a quarter of the attendees were born isn’t just sanctimonious, it’s annoying.
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I had no problem with the kids. my nephew was one of them . All he did was wait in line for autographes. it was the adults that scared or annoyed me.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 20, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
My other 2009 convention Gripes
I thought the Video montage this year was subpar and anti-climatic.
To me, the two most exciting games the Cubs had during the regular season outside of the no hitter and the clincher were the Rockies Comeback and the “Soto” Game against the Brewers. From what I could tell, both of those games were left off of the Video. They did make a point to call out Dome’s opening Day shot. We lost that game for crying out loud. Why not call out Dero’s shot during the Colorado Game or Soto’s Shot against the Brewers. There were several comebacks that could have been added to make the video more exciting. I would have rather seen those than the 2 minutes or so dedicated to the 7th inning stretch guest conductors.
In addition, the video also had the apperance that an effort was made to not show Woody or Dero during the video. The only shot of Woody was the Clincher game and I don’t think there were any shots of Dero. Not trying to be Oliver Stone…but I do find that interesting.
My Final Gripe…the Calender sucks. It has the feel of one of those inspiration posters. I prefer the player pics…
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
Video and calendar
The video wasn’t as good as it usually is — I completely agree.
I thought the calendar was ok, but the captions don’t add a thing. It would have been better off without them.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jan 20, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions

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