official - Marquis to Rockies
by Arbusto on Jan 2, 2009 12:53 PM CST
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I always liked Marquis. Thought he handled his role well. Larger deal incoming?
Here's a brief clip:
The Colorado Rockies and the Chicago Cubs have agreed in principle to a trade that would send righthander Jason Marquis to the Rockies in exchange for reliever Luis Vizcaino, according to the Denver Post
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Marquis, 30, is scheduled to make $9.875 million next season while Vizcaino will be in the final campaign of a two-year, $8 million pact. According to the report, Chicago will pay $1 million of the money owed to Marquis.
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Not Official
The deal will not become official until next week, when the players are able to take physicals.
Also quoted from the article – not official yet.
by Hawkeye Hellraiser on Jan 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Should I amend it to "mostly official"?
by Arbusto on Jan 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's been "mostly official" for a couple/few days now.
The “deal in principle” has been pretty well publicized. It won’t be official until Marquis passes the physical and, last I heard, he’s on vacation with his family.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 2, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe you are correct...
This isn’t really news.
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll post on the front page when it is official.
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by Al on Jan 2, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry
Any truth to the rumor the BLackhawks were hiding from Hendry yesterday afraid he’d trade them too?
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 2, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That 8 million is WRONG
He has a buyout which short of a miracle will be used in 2010. Marquis did not deserve the grief he got from Cub
fans. He got too much money but he took the ball every 5th day ( or whenever Lou gave it to him) and was a very
effective hitter and pinch runner. If dumping DeRosa , Wood and Marquis merely results in scraping enough money to get Bradley I will be very disappointed.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Get ready for some disappointment then...
B/c it looks like all this is just for Bradley.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 2, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope the Nats beat us to him.
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by Al on Jan 2, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't sound like it will happen...
And at this point (now that we’ve traded DeRosa and will be trading Marquis), I’m not sure that the alternative to Bradley is any better. Perhaps then we would more aggressively pursue the Peavy deal? But even so, that’d leave the offense substantially worse than last year’s offense (downgrading CF, RF, and probably 2B as well) along with a less impressive bullpen.
That said, I suspect we’ll be getting Bradley as soon as the Marquis trade is official.
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I looks like...
The Nats are pursuing Dunn.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 2, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like...
The Nats are pursuing Dunn.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 2, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+8,000
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by Grockcubs on Jan 2, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NO Bradley Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by Grockcubs on Jan 2, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hear, hear!
Let’s hope ANYONE beats us to him!
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by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 2, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am always ready for disappointment
I am a Cub fan but seriously this sucks. Probably another post is needed but why the F(*%$E#$#$ did Zell not sell the Cub
LAST YEAR ? or earlier when he could have gotten more desperately needed money and the Cubs could have a real owner
that might have let them keep DeRosa instead of dumping for an inferior player to save 3 million ?
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The 8 million is only slightly wrong...
The article says he’s in the final year of a two-year, $8 million deal – not that he has two years left. He got $3.5 million last year, will get $3.5 million this year, and has a team option for $4 million (which will get declined) or a $500,000 buyout. That’s a 2 year, $7.5 million deal, of which he’s in hte final year.
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a two year FOUR million dollar year
Based on the strong probability the Cubs will take the buyout in 2010. Otherwise it would hardly be worth dumping Marquis.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
It was a 2 year, $7.5 million deal. These things are defined by the total amount guaranteed, not the amount per year.
The buyout will most certainly happen. If not, it would be a 3 year, $11 million deal.
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're misreading the article...
The article says he’s in the FINAL year of a 2-year, $8 million (actually it’s $7.5 million) deal. That means there’s only one year left. That year is for $3.5 million. There’s also a $500,000 buyout for the 2010 season, which will be exercised. So it’s a 2-year, $7.5 million deal with one year and $4 million remaining (as the article basically says).
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I just meant the Cubs are only on the HOOK for 4 million
Not they could KEEP him for a 2nd year for that. Bottom line he will cost the Cubs 4 million for one year not 7.5 for two thus
making the savings roughly 4 million over Marquis including the million they are putting in.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on that... My point was simply...
That the article isn’t wrong. They don’t say we’re on the hook for $8 million to Vizcaino. They just say he’s in the last year of the 2-year $8 million deal. The savings is indeed about $4 million.
by SouthernCub on Jan 2, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The grief from SOME Cub fans
Generally, I think the treatment of Marquis is pretty favorable on this site at least. Yes, some people don’t like him, but I think most people A) think he’s a great 5th starter, and B) think he’s overpaid but that’s not his fault.
by jerry morales rules on Jan 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I hope he stays out of the bars around Wrigleyville.
We don’t really need another alcoholic player buying making the rounds. (Leave the heavy drinking to the fans, guys.)
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by znohitter on Jan 2, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If he and Gaudin become drinking buddies...
…one of them is going to end up impaled on a fire hydrant.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 2, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't make light of that.
At least one in every 36 million people are involved in fire hydrant related accidents a year. It’s almost double if you include canines.
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by neverAcquiesce on Jan 2, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked Marquis
He did what he was told, 5th starter, ate innings, never bitched. Just think, Marquis, Ceda, Wood, Edmonds and DeRosa for Miles, Gregg, Gathright, Vizcaino three minor league players not on the Indians 40 man roster, and most likely Bradley. Wow have we improved.
This is a train wreck.
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by Grockcubs on Jan 2, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
your wrong
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 2, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things.
1. You spelled “you’re” incorrectly.
2. Why don’t you back up your opinion? A three-year-old could simply say “you’re wrong.” But that same three-year-old may spell it correctly.
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by zm1217 on Jan 2, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That same three-year-old
might also recognize the value of a good #5 starter. Just don’t ask her about Star Wars.
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by Goodie1969 on Jan 2, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why dont you make true statements??
Like the poster said below marquis said he didn’t wanna go to the bullpen, he was a starter.
I dont need your spelling lessons, I’m lazy and this is a blog.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 3, 2009 6:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what does you being lazy have to do with this being a blog?
if you want to put your personal approach to life on display for all of BCB to see – by all means, go for it. There are plenty of dudes abiding here.
But the insinuation that your laziness is justified because BCB is a blog is way off base. Your laziness is just that – your laziness. Present it as such.
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by ballhawk on Jan 3, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
since you opened your mouth and responded to my post......
this isnt a college english class. I’m not writing a paper for a grade I’m responding to a comment on a blog. so what if i’m being lazy and not using proper grammar skills. like I said its a blog not a college english class. if that were the case then maybe you would know sentences begin with capital letters. besides who are you? you dont run anything around here!!
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 3, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for proving my point.
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by ballhawk on Jan 3, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not that serious dude
get over yourself or get a life
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 3, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
… here’s the deal. He was making a friendly suggestion. You took it as a personal attack, which it wasn’t.
You can write any way you want here — that’s definitely true. But if you write with better grammar, syntax and punctuation, you will be much more likely to get others to read what you’re writing.
Just sayin’.
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by Al on Jan 3, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or make true statements
which was the point I “made” to begin with. who cares about your-your’re stuff. if all you have to worry about is checking poster’s grammar on a internet blog you probably need to get a life.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 3, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You could have just let it go.
It wasn’t a personal attack.
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by Al on Jan 3, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok sry
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 3, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Marquis
but it is not true to say he never bitched. He said on more than one occasion that he did not want to ever be in the bullpen and would rather be on another team. Because of the rate that Lou overuses pinch hitters he will be missed more than people realize in that he was
almost as good as having an extra bench guy.
It will also be interesting if Jason Hirsch can make the rotation after being injured most of last season. It would probably be the first team
with two Jewish starting pitchers. Stone and Holtzman never overlapped and I can’t think of any others.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Briefly...
… Steve Stone and Ross Baumgarten were teammates with the 1978 White Sox.
Also, Norm Sherry was a backup catcher for the Dodgers while his brother Larry was a pitcher for them, from 1960-62.
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by Al on Jan 2, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Baumgarten a starter ?
Many teams have had two Jewish players and I think the Red Sox briefly had 3 when Youkalis, Stern and Kapler were all playing
but two starting pitchers would be interesting. I suspect the current Cubs are the first with two SP Canadians
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by Doggie Stalker on Jan 2, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Baumgarten was a starter.
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by Al on Jan 3, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs are taking the needed steps to acquire Bradley and Peavy...
…at least in my ignorant opinion they are. I will be disappointed if it ends at just Bradley. I’d recommend being patient here as the plane has not yet crashed in to the mountain.
by DudeVf11 on Jan 2, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Padres are being sold
not sure what that does for Peavy….
by LT on Jan 2, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are right.
I am not high on Bradley like others seem to be, especially if the 3 year deal is on the table. Abreu is a better option at most likely a 2 year deal.
Adding Peavy would make the offseason moves a C+ not adding him makes it a F, In my humble opinion. DeRosa will be sorely missed on this team.
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by Grockcubs on Jan 2, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hendry
so far we,ve lost 11 wins,34 saves,and a guy who could fill in almost anywhere.all to get an injury prone outfielder with a bad attitude. i hope this all works out and we dont end up with gathright in rf while bradley draws a paychech on the d.l. i would prefer dunn.
by NOMAR on Jan 3, 2009 4:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer that we get Bradley, Peavy and Dunn...
…but if this ends with bradley then it seems like a lot of effort and production lost to get a LHB. Bradley’s a good player with mental issues and if we stop at just adding him then I don’t see significant improvement, the team may even be worse as you suggest.
I cringe at the thought of Gathright starting, it would be the repeat of Dusty’s love for Neifi and so would provide amusing comments on this blog, but if that guy is starting regularly in 2009 then the Cubs will be much worse.
by DudeVf11 on Jan 3, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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