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The Cub Can Of Worms: Don Baylor

Don Baylor was the first manager of the Colorado Rockies, and in his six seasons there he led the Rox to a winning record three times, including a playoff spot (the first NL Wild Card) in their third season, at that time a record for the fastest run to the postseason for an expansion team (the Diamondbacks broke it in 1999 in their second year).

So when Jim Riggleman was fired after the Cubs tanked the second two-thirds of the 1999 season (after a 32-23 start, they went 35-72 the rest of the year to lose 95 games and it was pretty clear the players quit on Riggleman the last couple of months), then GM Andy MacPhail figured Baylor, a winner in Colorado, could light a fire under the Cubs.

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He was wrong, at least in his first year. Baylor and his old third base coaching buddy from Colorado, Gene Glynn (Glynn, at least, was mostly a nonentity, unlike Dusty Baker's 3B coaching pal Wavin' Wendell Kim), presided over a 2000 season that was even worse than 1999; the Cubs lost 97 games, went 16-42 from August 1 to season's end (losing 20+ games in both August and September and from Aug. 31 to Sept. 20 going 2-17), and by the end of 2000 Daniel Garibay, Jamie Arnold, Jerry Spradlin, Joey Nation, Phil Norton and Andrew Lorraine had all started games for the Cubs. (Wow. It hurts just typing those names.)

So it wasn't all Baylor's fault -- he didn't have the "horses", as a future Cub manager would say. Aside from Mark Grace and Sammy Sosa, the next leading RBI man on the 2000 Cubs was Ricky Gutierrez, with 56. Third base was an ugly platoon of Willie Greene, Shane Andrews, Jeff Huson, Jose Nieves and Chad Meyers.

So 2001 wasn't expected to be better -- only it was. Just as Baylor can't be blamed for 2000, he doesn't really get credit for 2001. Sosa had what is probably the best offensive season in club history, Rondell White had a fine first half before getting hurt, and guys like Ron Coomer and Matt Stairs contributed to the Cubs' surprising run that lasted into September before they faded. The 88-win season, with Jon Lieber winning 20 games, gave the Cubs hope for 2002.

There was always a dark underside. One of the things Baylor loved to do was bunt. The Cubs ranked 11th in the majors in 1999 with 65 sacrifices. In 2000 they jumped to first with 89, and in 2001 it got ridiculous -- the Cubs had 117 sacrifice bunts in 2001, 24 more than the second-place Cardinals.

Baylor must have thought his sacrificing was what was causing the team to win. It didn't really help them score runs -- the 777 runs they scored in 2001 ranked 13th in the majors. He kept doing it in early 2002, even though the Cubs got off to an 8-17 start, and later lost nine in a row, dropping them to 13-27, Baylor kept bunting. The one I really remember was on June 27, 2002, against the Reds at Wrigley Field, with the Cubs mired in fifth place, 9.5 games out and 11 games under .500.

Corey Patterson -- now there's a name you might have thought you'd never hear again here! -- led off the bottom of the first inning (after the Reds had failed to score in the top of the inning) with a double.

Baylor ordered second-place hitter Chris Stynes to bunt.

With a runner on second and nobody out in the first inning of a scoreless tie. (He succeeded, but Patterson failed to score and the Cubs lost 5-4 in 10 innings, after Antonio Alfonseca blew a 3-1 lead with two out in the ninth.)

It was almost as if Baylor was daring MacPhail to fire him. A week later, MacPhail obliged him. MacPhail also fired himself that day; that's when Jim Hendry took over as GM; his six and a half years on the job make Hendry one of the longest-tenured GMs in the majors today. Bruce Kimm took over and "led" the Cubs to a 33-45 mark, finishing off another 95-defeat season. The bunting stopped, though -- the 2002 Cubs had only 78 sacrifices, ranking fifth in the majors.

Baylor failed to get another managing job, continuing a line that had begun with Whitey Lockman. Dusty Baker became the first ex-Cub manager to get more than an interim job since Jim Marshall when the Reds hired him. He was hired in November to return to the Rockies as hitting coach. Watch out for bunts. In three of Baylor's six years as manager, the Rox ranked either first or second in the majors in sacrifices.

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Garibay, Arnold, Spradlin, Nation, Norton...

…talk about names I don’t want to remember! The Baylor years were truly dark days for pitching; a big part of the Cubs’ success in ’01 was completely out-of-the-blue career seasons from guys like Jason Bere and Todd Van Poppel.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jan 20, 2009 8:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Van Poppel...

… parlayed that 2001 season into a two-year, $4.5 million deal with the Rangers — serious money for a middle reliever in those days.

He never again had a season as good as his 2001 year with the Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jan 20, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rookie Card

I think I still have a Todd Van Poppel rookie card in my baseball card collection. He came up with the A’s during the core of my card collecting days. I don’t know why I thought he was supposed to be a break out star, but i’m pretty sure that the card is still in one of those special ‘hard plastic’ card cases.

Of course, none of the cards that I collected during the 90’s are actually worth anything because of mass production. Fun to remember having big dreams of Mr. Van Poppel though!

by steinmer on Jan 20, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just answered my own question...

From Wikipedia…

“Van Poppel was 11-3 with a 0.97 ERA and 170 strikeouts as a senior at Martin High School in Arlington, Texas. He was drafted in the first round, 14th overall, by the Athletics directly out of high school in 1990. The Atlanta Braves had seriously considered using their No. 1 overall selection on the highly touted pitcher. But because of concerns about his signability, the team opted instead to take shortstop Chipper Jones.1

by steinmer on Jan 20, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

collective sigh

imagine the different face of the braves organization if Van Poppel had been selected

by heine41 on Jan 20, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Feel the Poppel!

Yeah. I remember a lot of people predicting Van Poppel would be the next Nolan Ryan. After I heard this several times, I feared for his future.

by TheHawkRules on Jan 20, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's still baffling ...

that the Cubs won 88 games in 2001. That’s as many games as the 2003 team won and MORE than the 2007 team won!

This decade has been very odd for the Cubs. With the exception of 2005 (79-83) they haven’t had a truly mediocre team. They’ve either been good (2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008) or really terrible (2000, 2002, 2006).

by elgato on Jan 20, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Five winning seasons out of eight.

They haven’t done anything like that since the six straight winning years from 1967-72. In between 1972 and 2001 they had winning years in the three playoff years (1984, 1989, 1998), and two other times (1993, 1995).

Things are better now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jan 20, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

And I guess if you throw out 2006, the Cubs have had at least decent years since 2003.

by elgato on Jan 20, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Baylor,

I met Don Baylor last year on opening day here in Denver. He was signing autographs at an event the Rockies had put together that I happened to be at. I spoke with him for a few minutes and had a photo taken with him. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy. He however didn’t enjoy his time in Chicago from what I can recollect. However I am pretty sure most of us feel the same way.

In Heaven there is no beer, That's why we drink it here, and when were gone from here, all our friends will be drinking all our beer!!

by By Santo's Grace on Jan 20, 2009 8:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

if I remember, old Donnie B and Ronnie Santo got along quite well

wasn’t the Don Baylor show the inaugural Santo manager pre-game interview show?

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Jan 20, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sosa and Lieber

Without those two players, the Cubs would have been a losing team in 2001. I can’t think of a Cubs club ever as dependent on two players.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jan 20, 2009 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wood and Prior?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 20, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for Reminding Me

The Cubs leaned on those pitchers way too much for about three years longer than they should have. With their injury problems, things didn’t go so well. I’m glad Wood was able to resurrect his career as a closer. That other guy may never get it back together.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jan 20, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wood also had a good 2001 season...

… going 12-6, 3.36 in 28 starts, including a one-hit shutout (that followed a one-hit shutout the day before by Lieber) and finishing fourth in the NL in K’s.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jan 20, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rondell White's injury trouble really hurt that year too

He was absolutely mashing the ball until he got hurt. Still some of the hardest hit balls I’ve ever seen at Wrigley Field were off White’s bat in the first few months of that season.

by the nth on Jan 21, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

kind of along these lines but a bit OT too

Wuertz signed for $1.1M today according to the famous Cubs ‘reporter’ on the website.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Jan 20, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

THE BAYLOR DAYS...........

Itt really is amazing that the Cubs that many games with Baylor at the helm….It seemed no one as in direct charge of the team . When I received a phone call in early July of 2002 that he had been canned it came as no shock…..But I did wonder if he would ever manage in MLB again …Guess not for awhile …….

by cubs north on Jan 20, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kimm

When Kimm was brought in I heard the name of the pitcher they brought up to start his first game and thought ’He’s been up he can’t get anyone out. Too bad what a way to start"

It was Carlos Zambrano who I believe never saw Iowa again after that.

Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 21, 2009 5:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember Baylor being hired and immediately...

wanted Sosa to steal 60 bases, or something ridiculous like that, when it was apparent that Sosa’s best SB days were behind him.

There were some awfully long, brutal days and months during the Baylor regime, almost like a drought of Biblical proportions that one year.

I was so happy when the Cubs hired him and ten times happier when they got rid of him.

by BucknerKongCardenal on Jan 20, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Riggleman

I always thought Riggs should have been given another year.

That 1999 team was expected to contend and then they got a major blow when Kerry’s elbow exploded the first week of spring training games.

Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 21, 2009 5:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The team quit on Riggleman.

You can’t keep a manager like that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jan 21, 2009 7:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They quit

But he also had a lack of talent on the team as well. 1998 over achieved IMO and 1999 was a lesser team. Most the 1999 roster fell into one of two catagories

who” and “should have retired last year

Pitchers
Terry Adams
Rick Aguilera
Bobby Ayala
Richie Barker
Rod Beck
Micah Bowie
Doug Creek
Kyle Farnsworth
Mark Guthrie
Felix Heredia
Matt Karchner
Ray King
Jon Lieber
Andrew Lorraine
Brian McNichol
Kurt Miller
Terry Mulholland
Rodney Myers
Steve Rain
Scott Sanders
Dan Serafini
Kevin Tapani
Steve Trachsel
Brad Woodall

Catchers
Sandy Martinez
Jose Molina
Jeff Reed
Benito Santiago

Infielders
Manny Alexander
Shane Andrews
Jeff Blauser
Gary Gaetti
Mark Grace
Jose Hernandez
Tyler Houston
Cole Liniak
Chad Meyers
Mickey Morandini
Jose Nieves

Outfielders
Roosevelt Brown
Curtis Goodwin
Glenallen Hill
Lance Johnson
Bo Porter
Henry Rodriguez
Sammy Sosa

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 21, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a Chris Stynes autographed ball.

Who wants it????

by VFTB Matt on Jan 21, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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