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Convention Leftovers

For a change of pace, I'll post something that makes no reference (other than this sentence) to newly acquired relief pitchers, backup catchers or potential acquisitions.

Late last season, I made a bet with Drew over the Packers/Bears records; I have donated $20 to Project 3000 (I'll scan and post a pick of the receipt if Drew wants proof).  I was going to pay Al at the convention, but only saw him for a minute during the "Meet Cubs Baseball Management" session.

Had a nice e-mail exchange with Dave Eanet of WGN about how much time the hosts took during that sesssion.  Dave apologized and explained that some of it was because Piniella was late, so the session started late, and he didn't account for that.  I believe him -- I know there are conspiracy theorists that will insist it's to deflect difficult questions, but think about it.  If that was the goal, why would they take ANY questions?  The first two or three could all be ones that Hendry & Co. don't want to answer.

After the baseball management session ended, I went up to Hendry to ask my questions.  I prefaced them by saying that he may not be able to answer either, and I understood that.  The first one was along the lines of, "The theme this offseason is that you needed to get more left-handed . . . yet you won 97 games.  I respect that you're not resting on that -- but when people ask about leadoff, the answer is that you won 97 games."  My point is that it seems to be a double standard.  Hendry's response was to get aggressive and combative. 

Before I could ask the question of "Did you have any organizational discussions about bringing someone in with a higher OBP?", he badgered (no pun intended) me with, "Who would you get?  Who is better?", and then proceeded to put down every name that I suggested.  Since I didn't want to ruin it for the others around him, I put up with more than I would have in a one-on-one setting.  At one point, I suggested Furcal, and got "Are you going to trade Theriot and pay him $30M?  He can't even stay on the field." -- I resisted the urge to say either, "Yeah, because Theriot sucks", or, "Bradley can't stay on the field, either, you horse's ___".  Yes, I mentioned Roberts, and he muttered something about not dealing with Baltimore -- hours before he did.  So, by his demeanor, Hendry pretty much answered my first question -- yes, they did want to get a better leadoff man, but they couldn't -- and now they need to publicly defend Soriano being there -- again.

The second question was along the lines of, "Why do you need to carry 12 pitchers, when 1 or 2 of them hardly ever see the mound?"  Reply -- "Got to.  Got to have them.  Lou and Larry decide who pitches." 

So, yeah, I still think Jim's a good GM -- but he can also be a defensive jerk.

Speaking of dealing with Baltimore, I missed a few posts in the Pie traded discussion, but I found a couple this morning.  Looks like Ballhawk paid his debt (yes, that was me that you'd bet).  Drew, assuming you've also paid $5 per our bet . . . .

Finally, I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I asked Crane Kenney about the "L" flag during his Sunday session.  They are going to keep it, which I think is the right thing to do -- I think flying the "W" but not the "L" is contrived.  I also asked about the "softball" jerseys -- those aren't going away, but the red-brimmed road hats are.

 

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Thank God for no more red-brimmed hats!

They look cheap, and what’s worse, they are a noticeably darker shade of blue than the solid blue jerseys. Not a good look.

"They say we live and learn. Often what we learn is what damn fools we have been." ~Thomas Sowell

by Goodie1969 on Jan 31, 2009 1:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

+ infinity!!!

I never like those red brimmed hats, and if t hey are gone, i am very thankful!

Only thing was worse was the Cubs jerseys that looked like they read “CUBA”

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by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 31, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I personally like the red bills

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Jan 31, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.

by Clutche on Jan 31, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting to hear a real life negative encounter with Hendry who...

is usually made out to be a nice guy. You’ve managed to underline the fact that Hendry himself is feeling pressure and reacting to it.

It’s also a little disheartening to have him essentially say what most of us already suspected; that he KNOWS Soriano isn’t a good lead-off man but, for the foreseeable future at least, we’re stuck with him.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 31, 2009 2:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why are we stuck?

Have we no other options?

If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.

by Clutche on Jan 31, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We have other options

but are they options that are clearly better than Soriano? It’s pretty clear from how combative Hendry was with Badger’s completely legitimate questions that he doesn’t think so.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 31, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jim's response re: Furcal/Theriot is disappointing

This is an off-season in which we traded DeRosa and signed Aaron Miles; Theriot didn’t HAVE to be traded, he could have been shifted back to 2B. (Of course, in my view, trading Theriot would have been a great move; if there was ever a time to sell high, it was after Theriot’s ’08.)

Let’s assume the team could not have both Bradley and Furcal – which would the team be better off having? It’s actually a little more complex than that – I think the question ends up being are we better off with Miles-Theriot-Bradley or Furcal-Pie-Hinske w/ Fonty and Riot battling for 2B time?

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Jan 31, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Like you said, it's complex

I love the IDEA of Furcal playing short and leading off but his health has been an issue-I can’t really fault Hendry for not wanting to laying out a multi-million dollar contract for a guy with question marks like that.

On the other hand, that’s exactly what Hendry DID do with Bradley.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 31, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a lot more confident in Furcal's health than I am in Bradley's

and I’m one of the people who’s liked Bradley best.

The more I thought about the whole Theriot thing, I thought – Jim did exactly that to Murton. Murton was the Theriot of LFs and we didn’t have any problem with upgrading him…

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Jan 31, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, but there is a difference

Hendry and Piniella both have this inexplicable man-love for Theriot that neither had for Murton. Lou never seemed to care for Matt — and in his postgame tirade in May, 2007, Murton seemed to be one of the players that he called out.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jan 31, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you look at Murton's

Splits with bases empty and runners on you may find your answer (both in the bigs and in the minors; for the splits in the bigs you can use baseballreference.com and for the minors minorleaguesplits.com). He becomes a significant worse hitter with men on, and that is a big no no for a guy who plays the second most important offensive position in the game and doesn’t bring much value in anything else (defense, speed).

by Luis on Jan 31, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly

But it doesn’t explain why Theriot gets a free pass on his shortcomiings.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jan 31, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot

I don’t really know why everyone just don’t get it. Theriot is here because he cost near nothing and our payroll don’t have room for a bigger name. Besides the bigger names out there have as many or more question marks than Theriot does.

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jan 31, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I get it -- he still sucks

The point is, Hendry made it sound like Theriot’s a star — he isn’t. And made it sound like Furcal is this big injury risk — after he signed Bradley.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jan 31, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You didnt expect him...

to say any different did ya?? What I wouldn’t give for one of the kids in the minors to surprise everyone and turn out to be something.

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jan 31, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My point was that Pie cost nothing

or if you prefer, Micah Hoffpauir cost nothing – but we still blocked them by signing MB. What sets Theriot apart from Murton, Pie, Hoffpauir, etc.?

Plus – getting Furcal does not mean you couldn’t play Theriot at 2B, where he’s more defensively suited.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Feb 1, 2009 5:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's a ss

their outfielders. I understand what your getting at and i’m not disagreeing with your assessment of Theriot but I do gotta admit he does a pretty good job considering his pay. None of us know for sure if Hendry kicked the tires of Furcal or not.His medical reports might paint a brighter picture as to his offseason outcome. I’ve gave this quite a bit of thought. When I compare him to a cabrera or renteria given their cost etc I think Hendry did ok with his judgement. Again maybe just maybe one of our ss’s in the minors will surprise us all and turn out to be something.

Looking around the league though I’m still puzzled why great ss’s are a dying or dead breed. I’m not overly impressed with very many in the last few years.

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Feb 1, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right about SSs in general

and that’s very relevant to this; that’s, in fact, part of why I see Furcal as so valuable and so worth the risk.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Feb 1, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if I were a betting man

It would took a crazy contract to get Furcal off the coast. Just seems to me he didn’t wanna leave the coast.

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Feb 1, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Piniella always builds tension and competition

Back to the one thing a manager/coach can do to exert authority——playing time as to how much and when and where.

I think Theriot will not be the starting SS by mid May, possibly earlier. This is almost telegraphed as Lou has said that Theriot has to improve is inability to go from 1B to 3B, meaning baserunning recognition—-as was pointed out earlier this off season how efficient Fontenot is in his baserunning prowess.

This would effectively put a marginally better fielding SS on the field who can bat LH’d along with a LH’d hitting 2B. Theriot then is relegated to platooning and situational utility which is more in line with his respective ceiling. Now this does not mean Theriot cannot improve.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Feb 1, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

RED BRIMMED AWAY HATS ???

Are they really that bad ?? I will only take one to Mesa then ……

by cubs north on Jan 31, 2009 6:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i dont understand

why they would not look more into Roberts. I honestly think we need him more than Peavy.
Am I the only one that thinks this?

by txcubfan85 on Feb 1, 2009 1:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so, but there are others here that agree with you.

I think Hendry got burned last year on Roberts – expecting something would happen, but it, obviously, didn’t.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Feb 1, 2009 5:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

your approach might have invited a push back....

How I read your approach to Hendry invited a push back. I was not there but working with senior exec’s of almost every profession, there is an inherent ’who the $#@* are you? That said there is a way to approach him to get the same information.

them by saying that he may not be able to answer either, and I understood that. The first one was along the lines of, “The theme this offseason is that you needed to get more left-handed . . . yet you won 97 games. I respect that you’re not resting on that — but when people ask about leadoff, the answer is that you won 97 games.” My point is that it seems to be a double standard. Hendry’s response was to get aggressive and combative.

You might have approached the inquiry by saying what other areas of the Cub offense besides “becoming more left handed?” This would invited an answer and dialogue where then you could have framed a question regarding lead off, but you framed it in a criticism and hypocrisy, what response did you want? OH I know you are a great and informed fan but…..these were out thoughts…no you got ….

“Who would you get? Who is better?”, and then proceeded to put down every name that I suggested. Since I didn’t want to ruin it for the others around him, I put up with more than I would have in a one-on-one setting. At one point, I suggested Furcal, and got “Are you going to trade Theriot and pay him $30M? He can’t even stay on the field.” -

Through this gotcha interview I got the answers to you question. He said he explored as fully as reasonably as possible without dismantling what they had already put together trying to get a lead off hitter that might have fit into the roster and budget. Of course that does not satisfy you and so they are looking at other things.

Now as for the off season acquisitions and subtractions.

Edmonds replaced by Bradley for +$7M
DeRosa replaced by Fontenot, Taguchi? -$4.2M
Marquis replaced by Heilman -$8.2M
Blano replaced by Bako -$2M
Cedeno replaced by Miles +$1.7M
Pie replaced by Gathright +$400K
Howry replaced by Gregg +$900K
Eyre replaced by Cotts -$2.0M

savings for $13.4M, that basically bought Dempster, Johnson and increases in salary across the board

What is being missed is where Bradley is inserted in the lineup? 3rd? 4th? Where does Lou insert Fontenot in the lineup? 1st? 2nd? 7th?

Again the need for Roberts comes if Fontenot does not make it

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Feb 1, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You make a pretty good case

However, keep in mind that I wasn’t interviewing him — I was just looking for a quick, informal chat.

Also keep in mind that, while my approach could have been better, I am willing to bet that it’s a lot better than many fans who ask him questions – he’s been through this before and he knows how to deal with it.

He could have done better, too.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shanghai.....not taking Hendry off the hook

Like it or not, senior exec’s are more sensitive than most other persons since they make decisions so their entire job is defined by their decisions, which is about predicting the future, predicting human behavior, predicting outcomes.

So what you are actually looking for when approaching them is for them to reveal their mindset, their thoughts on what predicated their decisions——not your observations in a dialogue.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Feb 2, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

But, it seemed like the mere subject itself struck a nerve — I never really got to the question stage. At least, not at a point where he heard me.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my suggestion:

Before you ask your question, say something nice like , Thank you for taking the time to answer questions. I understand you’re very busy and would appreciate your insight on recent transactions made by the organization.

Avoid using the word “you” in your questions. Use something like “organization” instead. It softens the questions when “you” can sometimes be taken as accusatory by the questionee.

Also, make sure you thank him after he answers your questions.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Feb 2, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

The Cubs bullpen will win games. Roberts gets on base and makes things happen.

by jtsurf on Feb 1, 2009 3:22 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hendry

It should be pointed out Hendry took time to talk to you after the seminar was over instead of slinking off the stage.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 1, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I should be grateful that he took the time to be a jerk?

As I said in the post, I prefaced my questions by saying I understood if he couldn’t/wouldn’t answer the questions. Had he just said that, that would have been fine.

I’m not condeming Hendry based on one encounter. Anyone can have a bad day, and that doesn’t mean that he’s a bad person. But he did act like an ass, and I found nothing redeeming about that specific encounter.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

… that while some of the questions you asked are legitimate ones, when you get him in what we in the TV biz would call an “ambush”, I think you can understand why he got a bit defensive.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 1, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If it had been an ambush, sure

Al, I went out of my way to be non-confrontational. I make every attempt to talk to them like I would want to be approached. As I said, he may have had a bad day — but he was the aggressor, not me.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Since I wasn't there...

… I guess I’ll have to take your word for it. But then, I haven’t heard Hendry’s take on this, either.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 4:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...a "vote of confidence"

Well, my intent was not to smear Hendry — there are other topics covered in the original post above. I realize that you may be biased if you’ve had good dealings with him. However, I think if you look back, I’ve been both supportive and critical of Hendry on this site — in other words, I have no “agenda” here. Once again, I’m not judging him as a person based on one encounter — it just wasn’t a very positive one.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 5:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that.

Keep in mind the scenario where you were talking to him — he was probably surrounded by a bunch of people bombarding him with questions. I can understand how someone could get a little surly in such a situation.

Incidentally, you didn’t mention the names you gave to Hendry regarding “better OBP” that he rejected. Who were they? He sure did get someone with a good OBP when he signed Bradley, wouldn’t you agree?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 7:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley / possibilities

Yes, Bradley is a solid OBP guy — however, I don’t think anyone expects him to be leading off, and that’s the slot I was wondering about.

As far as names, I was caught completely off-guard by the response. I do remember acknowledging that Miles is a pretty decent OBP guy.

Quite honestly, I might not have named anyone else beyond Furcal and Roberts, but was trying to get back to the question, anyway. Remember, the question that I wanted to ask was, did they have any discussions about getting someone else — not, “Why DIDN’T you get someone else?” I even said after Hendry got aggressive that I wasn’t criticizing him, to which he responded, “I can take criticism. You’ve got to have a solution if you have a question with that.”

Well, Jim, no, I don’t. Because I wasn’t saying you should have done better — I was TRYING to ask if you were looking to do something different. But you wouldn’t let me do that. Which again, answered my question without answering it.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he took your question the wrong way...

… which is entirely possible in the somewhat chaotic situation in which you likely asked it. That’s not your fault, either.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That is possible

And I’m sure he was interested in moving on to wherever he was going next. However, had he let me finish . . . .

At any rate, I’m not pissed at the guy. It is what it is.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stuff.

And this after I talked up how friendly Hendry is over at Viva El Birdos. Well, I don’t blame you for being irritated. You were asking some good, pointed questions, and he was far from forthcoming. But, as others have pointed out, there was probably a large “ambush” factor in play and, moreover, he may have simply been tired after going through the session itself.

I found his response about the Orioles particularly interesting. Sure, we did just dump Rich Hill on them, but that was less of a deal than a, well, dumping. Seems to me, many of us have been dead on about why Brian Roberts didn’t happen and, more important, why he won’t happen. Because dealing with MacPhail and the O’s ownership on a serious deal is maddening to the point of futility.

And let me reiterate that I’m disappointed in Hendry/Lou’s dogged insistence on carrying 12 pitchers, but I know this has been de rigeur for quite a while now and probably won’t change.

We are a fever ... we are a fever ... we ain't born typical.

by dat cubfan daver on Feb 2, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just the Cubs carrying that many pitchers.

I agree with you, I don’t like it. But many teams carry 13, which is insanity.

Then there’s Ned Yost. At one point last year the Brewers were carrying FOURTEEN pitchers, which meant they had three bench players, one of whom was their backup catcher.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And yet, Yost threw Gagne out there 4 straight days in April

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said.

On the scale of baseball smarts, there’s “insanity” and then there’s “Ned Yost”.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still sad that he's no longer the Brewer manager

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we all are.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be technical, but the correct term is

red-billed caps. Baseball players wear caps, not hats. A hat is something a little old lady wears to church on Sunday. A brim is part of a fedora. When the team start sporting 10-gallon stetsons, they will be wearing red-brimmed hats.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Feb 1, 2009 10:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I thought there was something off about that when I typed it.

I’d like to see the 10-gallon stetsons for a game.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But without red brims.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 1, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a fairly interesting encounter

with Joey Gathright (sp). Late Saturday night, he comes strolling through the lobby with his lady to catch a cab. I am out smoking Dart and I see a few people recognize him out there. Even though he was with his lady, he was nice enough to sign for the people who wanted him..much to her dismay. While he was signing, one of the dudes asked him how he jumped over that car…his reponse (Deadpanned)….Cocaine. Just jokes of course….he seemed to have a pretty good personality…maybe he will be one of the guys who can keep the clubhouse loose.

"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb

by TheRiot Police on Feb 1, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Where was this?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Feb 2, 2009 4:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hilton Towers...

"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb

by TheRiot Police on Feb 7, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Amusing anecdote.

Gathright aside, you were out smoking “Dart” – what is that exactly? Or is there an “and” missing and Dart is a friend of yours?

We are a fever ... we are a fever ... we ain't born typical.

by dat cubfan daver on Feb 2, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It should have

been a Dart i.e. square, cig, etc

"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb

by TheRiot Police on Feb 7, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me make this suggestion here, fwiw

Joey Gathright may end up being the leadoff hitter S.B. is looking for, or, at least that guy in Jim’s and Lou’s eyes.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Feb 2, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm hoping for a leadoff hitter that hits. . . .

I don’t expect Gathright fits that bill, but we’ll see.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If he's the leadoff hitter in Jim and Lou's respective eyes...

…they both need glasses.

We are a fever ... we are a fever ... we ain't born typical.

by dat cubfan daver on Feb 2, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't imagine they think that

I sure hope not.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me clarify

I don’t think they’re counting on him, but I think Jim hopes one of Miles or Gathright will rise to the occassion and I think they will be given the chance to try.

Gathright did manage to post a good OBP in 2007.

The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.

by DGU on Feb 2, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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