Milton Bradley officially signs with Cubs
by cubs2234 on Jan 5, 2009 3:11 PM CST
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from an ESPN.com alerts text message:
"ESPN MLB - Cubs reached agreement with OF Milton Bradley on a 3-year contract worth $30 million"
I don't have any other sources yet, but I'm sure they're on the way.
I think this is an OK signing. I don't really know what to think at thus point. I'll wait to see what you all have to say, since I trust you guys' opinions.
UPDATE: found a link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3811744
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Bradley
once again…..I am beaten to the post!
Good sign IMO……….he is the type of LH bat we need……..hopefully some more move to come!
by plenz on Jan 5, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sorry
for once i wanted to post something that mattered on this site! i feel like i’ve done my job.
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by cubs2234 on Jan 5, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's every BCBers dream to break a story like this.
Congrats. You get 1,000 BCB points and a pair of free tickets to the virtual bleachers.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jan 5, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is it sad that i'm completely serious?
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by cubs2234 on Jan 5, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as long as he stays fairly healthy...
great signing…but big if tho…
by cubsmania on Jan 5, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll add
I think that’s a low-cost, low-risk deal considering the upside. If the Cubs staff can keep him healthy, which they must believe they can, then this will be a bargain.
I’m honestly surprised it didn’t require a vesting 4th year.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt call it low risk
we will be lucky to see 350 at bats out of him.
-clarknaddison
by clarknaddison on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not low-cost or low-risk...
given our payroll limitations.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's exactly the kind of deal you have to do when you have payroll restrictions
You aren’t going to get the chance at this kind of production for $10M / year from anyone else.
When you have more money, you can pay more for lower risk players. We’re not committing much money or length to the contract, so the organizational risk is relatively low, given the high chance of injury.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think you can classify
any contract that’s 10 million + annually as “low-cost, low-risk”
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you can get $20M of production our of a player for $10M that's not low-cost?
Maybe “Bargain” would be a better word? It’s semantics either way.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if
bullfrogs had wings…..
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can and will
are very different things. how many times in Bradley’s career has he produced at a clip worth $20 million?
I’m not saying it’s a bad signing, i think it’s fine. I just think you’re mis-representing it
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Fangraphs evaluations
Only in one season has he been worth less than $10M.
Even with all the time he’s missed due to injury, in every season but one he’s been worth close to or above what we’re paying him this season.
I can see why people disagree with assessing it as low-risk. I just think that in the big picture, even accounting for his injuries, it’s a low-cost move.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but never worth $20
also…
i get your point i just think you’re saying it poorly. Low-Cost isn’t the right idea since he cost more than 70% of all players in the game at 10 million annually, maybe “relative bargain” would be more appropriate
but even then you have to look at where he’d rank amongst all players in MLB providing a net positive of say +3-5 million (produces 13-15, costs 10), my guess is it would be in the middle of the pack
of course if you only did that analysis on JUST FA signings, netting a positive 3-5 million probably would be closer to the upper quartile
as i contradict myself a bit there with my stream of conscious…
my point is i don’t think you can use LOW-COST for a $10 million plus player, when something like less than 25-30% of all players in MLB make that much
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He is not worth
10M for 3 years
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by Grockcubs on Jan 5, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a gamble...
if it pays off, it’s a bargain. But by the nature of the dollar value and year commitment and his injury history, it is most certainly not low-risk. And if he goes down (again), it’s no longer a bargain in cost.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's cheaper
than I thought it was going to be.
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting more too
But after I saw that Burell signed with the Rays for 8 million a year, my expectations were thrown. I expected Burell to sign for more than that for some reason.
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by gwood on Jan 5, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This makes the Fukudome signing look like...
…the cheap seats.
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's lower-risk
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by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
but it is not low-risk or low-cost.
Just because it is the only deal we could make for a guy like Bradley doesn’t make it low-risk or low-cost.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im happy about this signing even though it did kind of cost us Derosa
Lets just hope that the Hendry/Pinella left hand fetish has been solved now.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Radio's Bruce Levine had the scoop
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great sign
Guy can rake and is passionate. For the folks that believed the Cubs lacked “fire” or whatever during the playoffs, this will remove that thought. The guy cares about winning which is always a welcome addition. Well done Jim.
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by krummy12 on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only surprise here is that the Marquis deal is not final.
Thought Jason had to pass his physical in CO for this to ink. Guess not.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Thought So, Too...
… then I thought that with the Cubs having some room left, along with the money saved with DeRosa, he could go up a little before heading back down…
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's pray that OBP stays up around .436
…as long as he can stay healthy for 120 games per year, then it’s a good signing.
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it goes down a little because of that ballpark in Texas
Still he should be very successful with the Cubs
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think league factors are greater than ballpark factors
He’ll benefit more from the move to the NL than he’ll lose from the park factors (off the top of my head anyway, I could be wrong).
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good point because the NL pitching is a bit easier to hit
and also there will be five teams worth of pitchers that he will become real familiar with during his time here.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley was in the NL with the Dodgers.
I don’t recall a big difference in his stats when he was traded to the A’s.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was more pointing to how he will have five teams that he faces (hopefully) 15 times a year
Which means he can get more familiar with their pitchers instead of just the three teams in the AL West.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought of that.
That’s something interesting to look at (since it’s January and I’m longing for baseball.)
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea but no Josh Hamilton in front of him in Chicago......
…at least not that I know of.
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by JB 23 on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can have one of our sabermetrics guys on this site...
…do an analysis on him. That stuff’s mostly over my head, too.
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that, and be healthy if we make it to October...
But yes, if he’s a .900+ OPS guy playing 120+ games and is available in October for us, it’s a good signing. Of course, that’s an enormous “if” given his history.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Happy with this one. I’ve wanted the Cubs to get Bradley since October, can’t believe they actually did. Man this is so much better than Raul Ibanez.
by philadelphiacub on Jan 5, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've been back and forth
about this, and I think he might be a bigger risk than necessary, but the deal itself isn’t so bad, and maybe now that he knows where he’ll be (most likely) for the next few years, he won’t be so volatile. hahaha, yeah right! It’s okay, we can use a little fire.
What distresses me is that I just read he only played 165 innings in the field last year. I remember him as a decent defender, but if he played so few games last year without even really playing the field…
by JodyDavis on Jan 5, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Last year concerns me less...
He was coming back from a serious knee injury that occurred late in the 2007 season. And he was playing on a team that had three good defensive OF already. The Rangers played it safe with him.
I’m more concerned about the history of injuries prior to 2008, which kept him from playing 100+ games in the field in any season other than 2004.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this sucks
bad deal,bad player, bad move!!!
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
to say he's a bad player is completely pointless, and it makes you look bad because its completely not true
If you don’t want him because of the injury risk, or because of behavioral issues, fine. But to suggest he’s not good at baseball simply shows you haven’t looked at his career numbers, which makes people less likely to put much merit into the things you say. Being upset with the decision made by the Cubs org. shouldn’t cloud your ability to use logic and reason.
by philadelphiacub on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my idea
of a good player doesn’t involve going after announcers,umpires, other players, staying hurt all the time etc. I dont like this move one bit and this is going to bite us.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good player and good person...
are two separate things.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
both go hand in hand
we just made a very very controversial move
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't really go hand in hand...
we made a controversial move, but it has nothing to do with his ability as a ballplayer. It only has to do with his injury risk and attitude.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and going after...
umps on the field and leaving the field during games to go after an announcer. good players do those things??
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That ump baited him
And the UMP was punished, not Bradley.
He’s a Cub now. Get on board or get out.
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by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont ever tell me what to do
you get out!!
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you'll be very happy
Rooting for the Royals next year. No problems there!
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lets start making excuses for him...
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, OK...
Someone that brings up a fact that is counter to what the bats in your skull are telling you is making excuses.
Cool! I can play this game too!
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by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we need to go
get jeff kent and barry bonds too.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is exactly
what our team needed.
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, now hold on...
Milton Bradley is a passionate player who lets his emotions get the better of him, but let’s not go overboard here.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please.
No one has said he’s a complete jackass or a cheater. Ha. Which is Kent and which is Bonds? I can’t tell for certain.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubluver22
is pretty close to calling him both…
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Overboard?
I thought it was Gameboard?
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm onboard
with gameboard, but Cubluver22 is going overboard with the interrogation (water)board.
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this conversation is making me bord.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's making me DaBard
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by JohnM on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
see?
totally not me.
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good players CAN do those things, yes...
I’ll give you exhibit A: Ty Cobb.
Good players CAN do those things. Good PEOPLE don’t. There’s a difference.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They do NOT go hand in hand
He’s a scumbag, but he’s our scumbag.
Root for laundry. It’s so much easier.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he is a scumbag...
the guy has some issues…some of which he has been working on. I would rather have had Dunn but the guy is not a scumbag. Barry Bonds is a scumbag, Jeff Kent is a scumbag, Jose Canseco is a scumbag…Bradley has issues. There is a difference.
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by Kinky Reggae on Jan 5, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They HAVE NOTHING TO do with each other
Did you just start following baseball? There are tons of “bad people” who are “good players.”
I’m so sick of this argument, it’s getting run through more than the town whore.
by lamentir on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
when on the baseball field, Bradley has been at worst a very solid player and at best a dominant offensive player.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
keyword
when
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
obviously
he’s an injury-prone player, but a very good one.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jeez...
It’s not like we just signed O.J. or something. We have some questionable guys on our team right now, so what’s the difference? As long as they can play ball and be good teammates, which, by all accounts, he can do well.
It’s a good signing.
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can OJ
play right?
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, just don't leave your reading glasses at his house.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
make sure he gets a glove
that fits.
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by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice... LOL
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the right side of his jail cell maybe...
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by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Iowa
Again, I’m sure some of these Bradley haters love Zambrano, or Lee, for that matter.
Find a new argument with holes.
by lamentir on Jan 5, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So where does he bat in the line-up?
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by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess 5th...
Behind Lee and Ramirez and in front of Soto.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd bat him 4th
in that same order you have though… having DLee bat 2nd….
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was suggesting what I think will happen...
not what I’d prefer.
I’d probably bat him 3rd or 4th, either between Theriot and Ramirez or Lee and Ramirez.
But I think Piniella bats him 5th.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd bat him third.
It will be interesting to see Lou’s lineup.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou wants him 3/4
I think he’s wanted to split Lee/Rami for a while.
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by DGU on Jan 5, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Piniella batted Fukudome fifth from the getgo last year...
when he thought Fukudome was the answer. I think he just wants someone in the middle of the lineup that is LH. I don’t think he’s concerned about splitting Lee and Ramirez.
There’s not that much difference between splitting Lee and Ramirez and splitting Ramirez and Soto. Either way, you have a LH bat splitting up three power RH bats.
by SouthernCub on Jan 5, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my guess
sori
fontenot
aramis
bradley
lee
dome
soto
theriot
Pitcher
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by cubsluver22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Flip...
… Dome and Soto…
… and Piniella will likely flip Aramis and Lee.
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I just don’t see Lou moving Lee out of the 3 spot.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 5, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and that is so damn annoying
your best hitter hits 3rd, it seems clear that aramis is a better hitter and better suited to the 3rd spot in the lineup. lets see if lou has a spine.
bring up felix.
by kylejo on Jan 5, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With his OBP
Bradley should be up in the order. I’d take him in the 2 or 3 hole.
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by californiachicagoan on Jan 5, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He Is Perfect...
… to split Lee and Ramirez. Most likely 4th.
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hated this...
Idea. But he’s a Cub now, so I will root for him. Let’s hope he can channel his temper in positive ways and fire our guys up. Maybe this team needed was too nice and needed another guy with an “edge”, we shall see.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Great Signing
Abreu = too many ground balls, Dunn = Cannot play RF, Ibanez = getting older.
Bradley was the best of the available options and once again Hendry got it done. We all will miss DeRosa, but he would have been gone next year anyways.
Little Fonty may be able to drive in 65 runs as well.
I love this team.
by PieFan08 on Jan 5, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Depending Where LBR hits...
… I bet he bats second…
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
against righties, probably
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by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where does LBR hit
against switch-pitchers?
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by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
I hope Miles isnt being given an everyday spot at 2nd. I read a Heandry comment about 2nd being one of the only spots where he could acquire a left handed bat, and am worried they are thinking of LBR as strictly bench material.
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by californiachicagoan on Jan 5, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Might see time in LF
Soriano is unlikely to play more than 125 games in LF, so Bradley can get some ABs there, with Fukodome moving to RF and Pie/Gath coming off the bench to take over in CF.
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by ExNorthsider on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
anyone see the part
where it said “Some options in the deal”
this is likely very bad since Hendry gives away player options like they’re tick-tacks…. please dear lord let them be TEAM OPTIONS…. PLEASE
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There all made out of ticky-tacky and the all look just the same.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
do you work for tic tac?
was that necessary?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I don't work for tic-tac and yes it was necessary. A little humor is needed in this situation. People
are getting far to worked up. It’s only baseball.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when
did you plan on providing the humor?
or maybe i’ve missed all the comedic legends who had built their careers off of spelling mistakes and grammar corrections
you could be the first though!
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are involved...
in like the lamest argument ever.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's January in Chicago,
what else is there to do?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think I was correcting your spelling? The reference to the song had to
do with your reference to the term tick-tack. It was not a comment on your spelling. It’s not even a real word. Thanks for being a critic on my humor. I’ll make sure I consult you the next time I feel like making a comment.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And by the way, go pound sand!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we need
to put that in the BCB Dictionary…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If that gets in
I want “Shut up, and when you’re done, shut up some more!” in there
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Technical Balk
Nominating ones self is against code.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I work for Tic-Tac...
… and I don’t see the humor here. I demand an apology to my brothers and sisters in breathmints.
Carry on.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look on the bright side,
you could work for Certs!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My cousins work for Certs...
and they don’t appreciate such foul-breathed rhetoric, either.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should seek employment at
a local company with ties to the Cubs?
How about Wrigley Co.?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably...
Backloaded with NTC, Hendry specials.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
omg when i first read your post i thought it was serious
That would be a step to far
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry's "specials"
is in the contract…. Eiiiwwwwww
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a Cub now
Get on board or find another team.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:29 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
+1
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Jan 5, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up Worf. You're going to blow a gasket or maybe a jefferies tube.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TWT(orion)SGS.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or an O-ring
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the signing but that's just a stupid thing to say
Leave the with us or against us rhetoric for the politicians.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can conclude Worf
is not involved in politics or diplomacy.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+100000000000000000
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jan 5, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are not with me, you're against me!
Only a Sith deals in absolutes!
Yeah, well, the Sith ruled for a long time… I’d take some Sith mentality.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worf talking about the Sith. I see you have Star Trek and Star Wars both covered.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My geekdom knows NO bounds
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Video games, movies, comics, Twilight
I’ll find your geekbounds.
by Arbusto on Jan 5, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to cite
Babylon 5 before I’ll believe that.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jan 5, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and so it begins...
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 6, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Great BCB Nerd Wars of 2009 left a tremendous scar across the face of Cubs Nation.
To this day, the very mention of Red Dwarf sends shivers down the spine of anyone who remembers that terrible time…
Bleed Cubbie Blue: Like Drāno for your internet tubes.
by znohitter on Jan 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NERDS!!!
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 7, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want to hear anything about Star Jones.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Not Star JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you're just a tad to emotional about this right now?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When has that ever applied?
Theriot haters.
Marquis bashers.
The Edmonds signing.
by Arbusto on Jan 5, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But before you find another team...
…shut up, pound sand and then pound sand s’more.
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 5, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
Similar Batters through Age 30 (www.baseball-reference.com)
Ivan Calderon (967)
Carl Everett (957)
Ben Oglivie (954)
Ron Northey (954)
Rip Repulski (953)
Ellis Valentine (950)
Troy O’Leary (950)
Bernard Gilkey (948)
Aaron Rowand (946)
Trot Nixon (945)
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon
by ExNorthsider on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
is that suppose to make me feel better
I hate this signing
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take 4 or 5 of those guys...
to play right field… it’s not the best signing, but it was exactly the right signing.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, he reminds me of Rip Repulski the more I think of it.
Whoever said you can't mix business with pleasure never owned a PuttPutt course---Andy Bernard
by carmen_fanzone on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He will be a
exciting player…If he stays healthy he is exactly what this team needs
by Blaze22 on Jan 5, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's safe to say
that Milton Bradley won’t be dull.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he won't be boring
but if I want drama I can watch the CW instead
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, that's just bad TV.
MLB is the best soap opera/reality TV available.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No not MLB, MB is a drama! Bradley will become Hendry's worse signing
Bradley will become Hendry’s worse signing
I bet Burrell, I know he’s right handed, along with
Abreu & Dunn will all have better numbers than MB
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
worse than Soriano?
BLou isn’t going to like that implicit criticism of Lou…
I say we give the spirited fella a chance.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True, if. . .
If you live within the correct area of the nation, have between 2 and 2.5 kids, your house faces exactly 6 degrees east of the north pole and you have the coin, MLB is the best programming on TV. For the rest of us, black out rules apply.
by TheHawk5 on Jan 5, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this move alot
regardless of injury (lololol)
by lexmarklover on Jan 5, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
shit...
BCB Works Miracles: It saved my English grade!
by Chanman25 on Jan 5, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm pleased with this
I like DeRosa as much as the next guy. But maybe part of the Cubs’ postseason problems recently is that they have too many “nice” guys — guys who really want to win this thing for Chicago. It gets into their heads too much.
Now we can see how the Cubs do with at least one guy who doesn’t appear to give a damn about all that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Hooray, the Cubs got a player who doesn’t give a shit!
by NittanyCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
the video of him hollering at the ump before he blew out his knee makes me think he gives LOTS of shits.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think he got Bradley's problem backwards...
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
let's take up a collection
get the man some toilet paper, and all will be well.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
There was definitely shit given by Bradley.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 5, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So who is really....
….going to play in RF?
Since we know Bradley will be out by the All Star game.
Miles? Pie? Hoffpair?
Wow. 30 Million in dead, unmovable salary for three years. Just damn.
Well, Abreu and Dunn better sign for 20 million a year now, or else Hendry looks like a sucker of the highest order.
This stinks – teased with Peavy, then we get Bradley shoved down our throats in another Hendry “blue light special.”
P.S. I’m taking names of all you Bradley apologist for my future BCB-version of a tagline when this deal blows up in the Cubs’ faces.
—I’m putting the over/under at 55 games for Bradley in 2009.
—I’m putting the over/under at 6 Million a year as the salary Hendry is going to have to eat WHEN – WHEN, not if – he dumps him.
Why couldn’t we just sign Jacques Jones again? Or Burnitz? Sheesh. Hendy and his damn projects and gambles………
Any hopes I had of a World Series just got severely wounded.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good to know...
While you are compiling material for your I told you so post, we’ll be rooting for the team.
The worst beer I had was pretty good.
by Worf on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Your holier-than-thou attitude totally put me in my place.
Since I obviously stopped bring a Cubs fan when they signed him. Unlike you true fans who know that a true fan’s place is to accept whatever you get and never complain.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Right now, Worf reminds me of the Royal Rumble I watched as a kid where Andre the Giant was being attacked by all 29 other guys at the same time. Go Worf Go!
by TheHawk5 on Jan 5, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who cares?
Why should anyone care if you are no longer a fan of team?
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jan 5, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Root for the team
not the individual.
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth.
Joe Garagiola
by Ryan at Cubshub on Jan 5, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will you post how wrong you were and kiss his ass if you're wrong on the over/unders?
Because when he puts up great numbers this year, I’m going to search all these complaints and repost them
by philadelphiacub on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tell you what...
If you win the lottery, you can shove it in my face.
If you become President, you can shove it in my face.
And if – an even longer shot – this works out and he plays 150 games and is really productive, you can also shove that in my face.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
150?
I thought your over/under was 55
by philadelphiacub on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So take the bet.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I get in on it?
I’ll be at plenty of late season games, you could get me a beer when I win.
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth.
Joe Garagiola
by Ryan at Cubshub on Jan 5, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That'll work.
Hamm’s okay?
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd settle for 400ab of .900 OPS...
That’s worth 2.5 wins if he plays average defense in right or left. That’s about the going rate for such a player.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, you are really
a total downer. Have you posted anything positive today?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does he EVER post anything positive?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
About Bradley?
No.
About many others? Yes.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quick:
just because you say baseless opinions about Bradley, doesn’t give you the automatic billings to say “I told you so.”
All the claims you have on that post has no statistical data supporting it, just “look at me, i’ll say useless shit to start a raucous.”
by NittanyCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseless?
Baseless?
Is that a serious comment?
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dood
just give the guy a chance. You can’t say he doesn’t have passion for the game. I’m not sure we couldn’t use a Billy Martin type temperament around here. Minus the alcoholism, anyway.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It All Depends...
…on what the new ownership says…
… I guess on both sides of that deal now!
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now, next time, I would like you to read mroe carefully.
Read what I posted, don’t just look at the letters.
by NittanyCub on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Guessing yes as
none of us know if Bradley will miss time, let alone be out by the ASB.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
let us all remember the lesson
of Jimmy Baseball.
Please open your bar menus to page two, and join me in singing “I like my cut off tees and my blond-ies, but just let me go home to Center again.”
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who isnt? I mean wow.....
New sig currently under construction
by JB 23 on Jan 5, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean she's mine now? All mine?
>>> Daver passes out <<<
Yes, yes ... winter is indeed a pond upon which all of us must skate, braving frostbite and runny noses in the hopes that our cars will start and we shan't embarass ourselves slipping on a patch of black ice. Spring is more a quagmire of cold mud and slush, and fall is a pile of fallen leaves that may or may not hide a pile of doggy doo-doo. But summer, ah summer is an oasis of endless green that disappears all too quickly beneath our feet as we rush through its warm, glorious bliss.
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 5, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
If you’re taking the action, I’ll take the Over on games played for 100 grand.
I’ll take the Under at the amount Hendry will have to eat for 100 grand.
I’ll take any other ridiculous O/U’s that you want to trot out for another 100 grand.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
by krummy12 on Jan 5, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You Mean...
…the candy bar?
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ill take the over on the first bet...
…and the under on the 2nd… I’d like to think you’re being sarcastic but who knows… If you are being sarcastic, well done. If not, you’re a bit over the top.
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth.
Joe Garagiola
by Ryan at Cubshub on Jan 5, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will root for this team like anyone else who has been a Cub fan
there whole freaking life. However I do not like this deal either, personally it SUCKS. Now will I root for the Cubs less, NO.
If the Cubs get 270 games out of this clown in 3 years I will be shocked. TEN years in the majors and twice over 120 games, that is not good percentages folks, and at 30M for 3, what a freaking waste.
Bad deal, And Worf I will root for the Cubs.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jan 5, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now this brings the Cubs to a revised projected payroll level of $135.86M
It also brings up the question whether Bradley’s knee is healthy enough to play CF?
With the possible subtractions of Cedeno, Wuertz who are arb eligible and probably at $1.2-$1.5M in liabilities plus the addition of the rumored Bako signing at $800K this would bring the payroll to $135.55-$135.80M.
My best guess is that the top for 2009 is $141.5M which gives Hendry mid-season budget to acquire a $10M player for a half season.
Other places to subtract are Vizcaino (but a rubber arm is valuable)
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bradley will play RF and Fuku in CF?
Is that right
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Correct...
… with a RJ platoon in CF.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So Fuku will a platoon player?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are way ahead of yourselves
spring training will decide much as usual, not January Parlor games.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ok when Fuku becomes the player he think he is
he will become the everyday CF
or are the Cubs giving PIE another shot
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nobody knows
Currently, best guess is Bradley in Right, Dome/Johnson in center. I suppose if Dome picks it up and Bradley gets hurt, Johnson can be part of a platoon with Pie or Gaithwright, depending on who is left on the bench.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My bet is the Cubs explore this in Mesa
It could be that Bradley simply replaces Edmonds as the mostly LH bat.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley in CF sounds scary
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why he played it well in SD which is a bigger CF
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In SD? how many innings?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was before the knee injury.
I’m not sure he can still play center field.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't possibly trust him to be a regular player again
He has to prove that he can produce at the plate over a full season.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Even in injury-limited duties he’s been worth what we’re paying him, and more valuable than the other options, even accounting for a replacement level sub (which we can do better than, given our roster depth).
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait are you talking about Bradley or Dome
Because I was talking about Dome
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does This Include...
… the subtraction of Marquis?
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If You Included Marquis...
… I have our payroll at a little over $139M. I made the 26-40 guys on the roster make $125K per year (assuming some will play during the year and some will get September call ups).
Also, I heard Bako would command $500K.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Revise that subtraction
Add in Pie so that brings the total down to $135.10-$135.60M
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
More implications against the current roster choices
I think the Miles signing and now the Bradley signing spell an almost immediate trade of Pie and Cedeno to a team wanting young $400-500K salary for starters. This will mean the Cubs as they stand now will go to April with 3 middle infielders make Miles the 3B backup where he could still be a starter.
This would open the final 13th position player spot open for Hoffpauir who I think is valuable since I think Cubs and Lou look at Bradley starting 80-100 games and being available for 30-40 games off the bench. IF Bradley goes on the DL Hoffpauir is then the big stick off the bench.
Look for Hendry to try to find some AAA RF stick to park in Iowa
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pie and Cedeno gone
Lou didn’t seem to like either player and the signings of Miles and Gaithright replace them.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to where?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
B'more
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scrappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jan 5, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
for what?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 6, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Careful with Miles...
… he really replaces mostly LBR and only a portion of Cedeno.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey ATP
How do you know that?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't it obvious?
Why acquire Gaithright if you are keeping Pie? Miles backs up at 2nd, 3rd and SS thus eliminating the need for Cedeno. Pie is out of options and he as well as Cedeno didn’t seem to be favorites of Piniella. Why would Hendry sign MIles and Gaithright if he were keeping Pie and Cedeno. That would make zero sense.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jan 5, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if Chewbacca is a Wookie, you must acquit!
Maybe the Padres REALLY want Gaithwright.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the monkey.
Look at the silly monkey!
http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/
by TheTruth11 on Jan 5, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't care one way or
the other if they got MB I just hope the next three years go incident free.
by sue369 on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would say the chance of that is slim.
I just it’s only minor blow-up.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So does this rule out Peavy for Sure?
Q?
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Peavy was out a month ago
Any speculation of a resurrection of that deal were greatly exaggerated.
And besides – this was never an either / or situation. We needed a right fielder, even if we got Peavy.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd play right field
Oh wait you can’t sign me yet… Dang. lol
Jim Edmonds has seriously become my favorite player. WHAT'S HAPPENING????
by Cub Style on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy was out when the Cubs 2010 payroll was $150M with him.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It All Depends...
…on what the new ownership says…
… I guess on both sides of that deal now!
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by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Am Of The Opinion...
… no.
My 2008 Christmas wish list includes this jersey. In Hendry We Trust!
by initram on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
I prefer Peavy
Jim Edmonds has seriously become my favorite player. WHAT'S HAPPENING????
by Cub Style on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just hope that this isn't the final move before Spring training
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it is, but we have the division locked.
Our rotation is very good, good lineup, and good bullpen. This is a damned good team already.
by aramis on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not count our chickens...
1) We’re the Cubs. Never underestimate our ability to suck.
2) Nothing is ever locked up in baseball. Prior to this season, Detroit was supposed to be unbeatable…how did that work out for them?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jan 5, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It goes without saying though...
that I hope we win the division easily.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jan 5, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the over/under on how long it takes the RF crowd to start booing him
like they did Jacques Jones?
I hope he comes out of the gate hot and doesn’t have this problem.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's my only fear
With Jones, you’ll recall they started doing it from day 1.
by Wreckard on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His problem
was that his Day 1 was awful…as was his first month or so.
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
by JohnM on Jan 5, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the plust side, Bradley has a better arm than Jones, so
there shouldn’t be any bounce passes to the cutoff man.
by N Oakley on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I won't boo...
…because I want to win. But that doesn’t mean I don’t see the train a comin’….
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your comments are ridiculous.
The guy is a great hitter, give him a chance. If beating his wife on off days makes him play better, who am I to judge.
by aramis on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you'll judge
if he’s arrested and kicked off the team.
Let’s not ascribe anything to him other than his known faults.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point Drew. I was using hyperbole, but you are right.
I was just trying to make the point that we often worry to much about off the field allegations. Bradley is a hell of a hitter.
by aramis on Jan 5, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell of a hitter?
on or off the field
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When has Bradley had trouble off the field
I don’t think he has ever had legal troubles.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Research my friend
He’s a wild dude
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Off the field or on field problems
There is a difference between argueing with an umpire or fan in a stadium as opposed to problems involving the police off the field.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't sure. :D
it’s gonna be an interesting spring training.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one for beating wives
That’s what pets are for
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Relax just joking. Damn do I hate this signing!
Now let me go beat my kids.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please stop.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jan 5, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just find
this stuff you are posting to be offensive.
by sue369 on Jan 5, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry sue369 & anyone else that i might have offended
Really
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 6, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly hope
that does not happen. The crowd took to Edmonds well so I hope we see the same for MB.
by sue369 on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it will all depend on how Milton performs,
particularly early in the season.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crowd reaction
Actually the bleacher crowd didn’t take to Edmonds right away. It was well into June when he started getting big hits to win games before people started to embrace him. I don’t understand why “fans” wouldn’t want to see players on their team succeed. There was big opposition to Edmonds last season and likely will be the same for Bradley. Hopefully he will ignore their ignorance.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he starts his season 0-13
But I think Jacque briefly redeemed himself since his first Cub hit was a three-run homer against the Cardinals on Sunday Night Baseball.
Let the Blaine Gabbert era begin.
by nji232 on Jan 5, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that game well
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jan 5, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also thought he conducted himself with the utmost class.
That is what won me over.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jones had a great second half in 07
Edmonds had a great second half in 08
Bradley will have a great half of something in 09
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right after you DORK
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No comparison
Comparing the skill sets of Bradley and Jones is futile. Jones wishes he could rake like Bradley can from one side of the plate let alone both. Completely different players.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
by krummy12 on Jan 5, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
does this mean
we now officially know who the REAL Milton is?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 5, 2009 3:54 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Ooohhh... this is the comment of the day
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Be confident
Not crazy
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 5, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Woo-Hoo!
Atta boy Jim Hendry!
One day, the dream will come true.
by brianp88 on Jan 5, 2009 3:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
Does anyone in the NL Central have a chance of competing w/the Cubs?
" Well isn't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere! "
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Of course!
I never count out the Cardinals and the Brewers could be a surprise. The big surprise in the division could be the Reds (either bad or good.)
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs