It's All Mark DeRosa's Fault: MLB Division Series Day 5 Preview, Sunday 10/11
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 9:00 AM CDT
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When you read this, keep in mind it is written with tongue planted firmly in cheek.
The Cardinals got swept out of their Division Series with the Dodgers and looked, in doing so, just about as bad as the Cubs did in a similar sweep a year ago.
Common thread? It has to be Mark DeRosa, the only former Cub on St. Louis' Division Series roster (Todd Wellemeyer wasn't on that roster). DeRosa played in 13 postseason games with the Braves from 2001-2003. His team won eight of them. But since DeRo became a Cub, his team has lost nine straight postseason games (ten, if you include the final game of the 2003 Braves/Cubs NLDS). It's got to be his fault. Even DeRosa himself joked about it:
"It might be me," former Cub Mark DeRosa said afterward as he saw Chicago media headed his way. "It better not be because I'm not retiring for a while."
Then he thought and added with a slight smile:
"This is three years in a row. It is me."
Gee, and the Cubs might think about bringing him back as a free agent?
Of course, DeRosa could more easily have blamed his teammates, because he had more hits in the series (five) than any other Cardinal, including Albert Pujols.
"It is what it is," DeRosa said. "I'll keep grinding."
Taking my "facetious cap" off, obviously, the Cardinals had problems that started at the end of the regular season, losing 8 of their last 10 games. As the link above states, DeRosa had a fine series, hitting .385. In fact, he hit .333 in two division series for the Cubs (7-for-21 with two doubles and a HR) and overall in 58 postseason at-bats, he's hit .358/.414/.566, numbers any team would take over a total of 22 games. And yes, I'd take DeRosa back as a free agent if the price were right.
Speaking of the Cardinals, Tony LaRussa and Dave Duncan are free agents. Supposedly, the internal rift between them and Cardinals management has been healed, but Phil Rogers says the Reds might be interested in them; ex-Cardinal GM Walt Jocketty, of course, is now in charge in Cincinnati. Rogers also writes:The Brewers are telling teams they don't plan to trade Prince Fielder. They hope to get pitching back in trades for shortstop J.J. Hardy and possibly third base prospect Mat Gamel, a .302 hitter in five minor league systems who has been made expendable by the emergence of Casey McGehee, claimed on waivers from the Cubs last fall.
J.J. Hardy? Would the Brewers take Sean Marshall and maybe a pitching prospect for Hardy? I'd do that. Hardy had a down year and wound up in Triple-A for a while, but he is only 27 and just one year removed from a fine offensive season.
Complete info on today's playoff tripleheader after the jump.
Angels at Red Sox, 11 am CDT. Angels lead series 2-0. TV: TBS. Announcers: Don Orsillo and Buck Martinez
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Please visit our SB Nation Red Sox site Over The Monster and Angels site Halos Heaven.
Yankees at Twins, 6 pm CDT. Yankees lead series 2-0. TV: TBS. Announcers: Chip Caray and Ron Darling
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Please visit our SB Nation Twins site Twinkie Town and Yankees site Pinstripe Alley.
Phillies at Rockies, 9 pm CDT. Series tied 1-1. TV: TBS. Announcers: Brian Anderson and Joe Simpson
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As a Cubs fan, I don't take satisfaction in seeing the Cards get swept
It just goes to show you that it’s all about how you are playing when the playoffs start. The Cards were ice cold and the Dodgers quickly swept them away. Now the Cubs need to find a way to knock them off in the Central next year.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Oct 11, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers weren't exactly hot, either.
They lost 7 of their last 11 regular season games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're a better person than I am.
Because as a Brewers fan, I take complete satisfaction in seeing the Cards get swept.
Personally, I don't give a crap about Brett Favre.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 11, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Bob Brenly. Don't forget Bob. He was on site for the NLDS last 3 years...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 11, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa: Modern-Day Richie Hebner
Hebner was with 7 teams that lost in the NLCS with the Pirates, Phillies, and Cubs. Of course, he was with the 1971 world champion Pirates. He’s the only other player that seemingly “cursed” his teammates like DeRosa does in postseason play. We all know it’s got to be a “curse”. That’s the only logical explanation. (Sarcasm)
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Oct 11, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, "Digger"! One of my favorite Tigers, back when they really didn't have much to offer.
He never made it to the playoffs in Detroit…
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 11, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy
Hardy is below average defensively. We already have a shortstop with below average fielding and range. Don’t need Hardy.
Love the Hebner comparison. Good memory so early on a Sunday.
by PalatineRol on Oct 11, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where you get Hardy as below average defensively
I remember positive scouting reports for his defense and the UZR statistic backs it up. I’d be really glad to add Hardy for a player who isn’t starting for us.
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stats
I don’t have the UZR stats that you have on Hardy. I do know that he was sent down to the minors to get his intensity back, both offensively and defensively. The reports I read said that his range had gone down and his head wasn’t in the game defensively.
Stats do tell the story. I will defer to your knowledge on this one.
by PalatineRol on Oct 11, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave you a link to the UZR stats recorded at fangraphs above.
They also back up the idea that his range decreased last year (and the year before that). He was still above average, but decreasing (at least for the whole year). It’s possible that the year’s worth of UZR statistic includes a good first half and bad second half.
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy at SS, Theriot at 2B?
Judging from my unscientific eye test, I think of Hardy as being an average defensive shortstop with Theriot being below average. Maybe, the Cubs could use Hardy at SS and move Theriot to 2B. How well Theriot could do the turn at second on a double play is another question?
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Oct 11, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs won't do this
but I’d buy low on Hardy and sell high on Theriot.
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...
…Hardy’s demotion had nothing to do with his defense, which was and is above average. He was sent down because he wasn’t hitting, the kid (Escobar) was ready, and sending Hardy down when they did allowed them to extend the organization’s control over him for another year, thereby making him a better trade prospect.
If you’ve got a cite for Melvin or anyone else in the organization saying that he needed to regain his defensive intensity, I’ll cede the point, but I don’t think you’ll find one.
Personally, I don't give a crap about Brett Favre.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 11, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay..
I’ll bite. Why would a GM give up both Sean Marshall — a perfectly competent swingman — and a pitching prospect for JJ Hardy? I mean, given his potential arbitration numbers, he looks more like a player that the Brewers 1) give away for a bag of balls, or 2) non tender. Am I missing something here?
by Damen Jackson on Oct 11, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You might be right that he wouldn't cost as much as Marshall
but then, if you look at the free agent market, is there a SS you’d rather have than Hardy?
Oh, and, did the Brewers end up holding Hardy’s arb clock back or am I confusing stories here?
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy should already be arb-eligible.
He’s played four full seasons, plus.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way JJ Hardy is even...
remotely interesting would be if the Cubs sent Aaron Miles there, along with some pitching and cash. Past that, I’d expect that any even mildly intelligent GM would wait to see if they non tender.
4 – 5 million dollars is simply an unacceptable amount of money in this climate for a project such as Hardy, especially given that the Cubs — whether you agree or not — seem very happy with Ryan Theriot.
by Damen Jackson on Oct 11, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you have to see if they non-tender
but after they don’t (assuming they don’t), doesn’t J.J. Hardy look like a lot better bet than Orlando Cabrera?
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No?
Cabrera has been in decline for the last three years. Plus, he’s got a reputation as a bad clubhouse guy. I’d take Hardy any time over Cabrera.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knock yourself out....
I wouldn’t. And not only is someone likely to be able to sign Cabrera for less than what Hardy would see in arbitration if the Brewers are dumb enough to go there, I don’t have to give up any prospects to get Orlando.
But frankly, if I were a GM shopping for a SS, I’d pass on both.
by Damen Jackson on Oct 11, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I agree with you about passing on Cabrera.
Hardy is still young enough that he could come back to his 2007-2008 level. Worth taking a chance on, IMO.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure...
He gets non tendered, or the Brewers want to drop the Cubs portion of his 2010 salary to around 1.5 million, I’m all for it. Paying Hardy 4-5 million next year based on hope? Pass. That’s a luxury that went out with the recession. Five years ago, you might have taken that chance. Now, it’s almost ludicrous to consider, which is why they’re talking about moving him in the first place.
by Damen Jackson on Oct 11, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding the current market
but I’d rather have a player who might be overpaid for one year (and has a good chance of being underpaid by half), than a player who I have to commit to for multiple years.
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm
not going to speak to your opinions about the marketplace. And frankly, the really important thing here anyway is that the potential of JJ Hardy for 2010 is not worth 4 – 5 million dollars. Either the Brewers find a way to make bring that number down, or they give him away for little to nothing. Or release him, and some GM gets a better deal anyway.
But hey, I’ve been wrong before. Maybe you’ll be right, and some organization will go thinking that they can “fix him”, or some GM is so confident in his employment situation that he’ll go doling out 5 million dollar fliers this off-season. It’s happened before.
by Damen Jackson on Oct 11, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you buy into fangraphs' WAR
They’ve got Hardy as worth 6 M last year, 22 M the year before, and 18 M the year before that.
And go ahead – I’m interested to hear more about what the market might be. I don’t expect I know it very well myself.
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by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought we should have given up Casey McGeeHee for Iowa cow dung.
The Brewers, if they were fair, would just give us Hardy out of the goodness of their hearts.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 11, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
There are those of us among Brewer fans who fear that dealing Gamel and keeping McGehee (as it looks like they intend to do) will turn out to be a mistake.
I do think you guys are underestimating the market for Hardy (well, not Al), but I could be wrong.
Personally, I don't give a crap about Brett Favre.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 11, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They pushed his free agency clock back by a year.
He’s under exclusive control of the Brewers (or whomever they trade him to) through 2011.
Personally, I don't give a crap about Brett Favre.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 11, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No It's not -Aaron is to blame, Aaron is always guilty...
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
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by eths on Oct 11, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe the Brewers
are the only NL Central team to win a playoff game in the last three years.
That hurts.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 11, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My god I think I'm going to vomit.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have thought that was taken care of
About 4:30 yesterday….
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Oct 11, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're going to destroy Iowa next week and all will be right in the world.
We will beat the so-called “good” Iowa team next week, at our homecoming game. That’ll put us ahead of Iowa, near the top of the Big 10, with PSU & OSU to play each other in three weeks. Hopefully PSU wins that game. The rest of our schedule is cake – PU, @ IU, Mich, @ NW, @ Hawaii.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm. Cake.......
Don’t hatch your Counts before they’re chicken…
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 11, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not.
But those teams are a combined 20-15 overall, or 4-9 in conference. And that INCLUDES 6-0 (2-0) Iowa. That’s horrible.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"on any given Saturday..."
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 12, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That possesion at the end of the half was ridiculous
Thats when doubt crept in for me.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 11, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Since DeRosa gets all the credit from some people for the Cubs being in the post season in 07 and 08 he should get all the blame for the 2 sweeps with us and the sweep with the Cardinals.
Tongue in cheek but not as ridiculous as reading Kyle Orton is a franchise QB this morning.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Oct 11, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We've Rued The Day Since Mark DeRosa left us
it would’ve been better to see him in the OF than Milton Headcase any day of the week
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 11, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I certainly haven't
rued the day he left. I don’t care either way.
Now, the day Greg Maddux left, the first time? I’m still ruing that day. I think that’s a lot more legit.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it is.
Nevertheless, in 2009 the Cubs would have been a better team with Mark DeRosa.
I don’t see how you can deny that statement.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. Maybe not.
I guess we’ll never know, Al.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose they would've been better
But minimally so, I’d say. Definitely not something to have rued the day since.
Jim Edmonds did an incredible job for us last year, and we didn’t bring him back, even though he probably would’ve taken a one year contract. Would he have made this team better? I dunno, possibly. I don’t see anyone complaining about how dumb it was in retrospect though.
by shoemile on Oct 11, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, there's been crying about Edmonds, too
I don’t know if he would have taken a one-year deal, but I do know nobody else in MLB seemed interested in him. Perhaps the disinterest in all of them (including the Cubs) was mutual.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess about Edmonds...
… he wanted too much money after his good year last year to be worth it for almost any team, including the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think so?
I thought he just wanted to retire. He just got married, and he had some business stuff in STL (including a restaurant).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might be right.
But that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have helped a team in 2009.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 12, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he can't help a team
if he doesn’t want to play.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 12, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The poster wasn't talking about Maddux
Of course your boy Bradley sure worked out.
Getting rid of DeRosa was stupid then and now. It was the first move in an incredibly bad post season for the Cubs.
But I should expect such drivel from you.
by TJ11 on Oct 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley is not 'my boy'
I was willing to give him a chance, and he failed.
God, you are a tool of the highest order.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sure defended him and looked stupid doing it--So suck it.....
by TJ11 on Oct 11, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the namecalling and language, please.
Uncalled for. You are free to disagree as long as you are civil about it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I don't give a damn
if the poster was talking about Maddux or not. That’s a guy whose departure you should be ruing, not some journeyman.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just goes to show...
How much of a crapshoot the playoffs really are. You got possibly the top two Cy Young candidates this year going 1 & 2 in Carpenter and Wainwright, and you get swept and beat by Vincente Padilla of all people in Game 3. This reminds me of us getting shut down by Livan Hernandez in ’07.
Just get in the playoffs next year, and anything can happen.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 11, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine Soriano playing LF in Dodger Stadium with all those white towels?
Hop hop hop hop ouch!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 11, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember the Cards in the 2006 playoffs?
They probably had the two foremost Cy Yuk candidates pitching for that team, and they won it all. It is hard to come up with a Unified Field Theory that explains all of this.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 11, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just goes to show, v6,
that there’s a reason they play the games. If the outcome was predetermined, it wouldn’t be worth watching, right? :-)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see the Cards fold like a cheap suit!
It seems each season now some team collapses at seasons’ end and another folds in the playoffs. Hopefully the Red Sox follow suit today!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Oct 11, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are well on their way
After the top of the ninth. It might all be over by now.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 11, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just looked again, and it is all over
There are some teams more frustrated than the Cubs right now.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 11, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes me feel a bit better that the Cards got swept
For most of the season, they rolled along and played decent, made a move or two that helped, Carpenter and Wainright had Cy Youngish seasons,and The Machine was bashing.
I don’t know if they let up a bit in September because the Cubs we so far out of it? I mean, Albert had about 35 HR’s after the ASB and only hit 12 the rest of the season.
The Cards had a great April and August and pretty much treaded water the rest of the season. That’s what makes the Cubs failure to gain any ground on them so maddening. We hung around .500 most of the year and had a couple good wining periods, unfortunately, we had that one bad losing stretch after August 4(?) that killed us. And so it goes…
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by BigJohnAZ on Oct 11, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bosox leading Angels 5-2 bottom 7
Some of us still root for the Red Sox.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Angels win
moot point, but who wants to see a NY-Bos ALCS? I don’t.
NY-LA (Angels of anaheim) is more interesting.
by JFCubFan on Oct 11, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins -Angels
Even better
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I am rooting for now.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
although I’m not overly optimistic. But once in the Dome, anything can happen.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect the Twins to win the two at home.
After that… who knows?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
That’s why blowing that game the other night was a killer for Minnesota. Go 1-1 in NYC and you’re feeling pretty good about coming home.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 11, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My lord, MLB would HATE THAT.
I’m all for it.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the better
Go Angels, Twins, and Rox!
by madcow256 on Oct 11, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible stop by the Angels 3B coach
This game should be tied.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No chance...
that runner would’ve scored from first on that play? No chance.
by kanderber on Oct 11, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why I put a question mark in there...
I’m Ron Burgundy?
by kanderber on Oct 11, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch two closers blowing up on Boston
Wagner & Papelbon.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
somewhere kevin gregg is laughing
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 11, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the way to the bank, yes.
May he go help the Cubs for some other team.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I can say is....
I got what I wanted out of the Dodgers-Cardinals series. DeRosa had a good series (except for air-mailing that throw to second) in a losing effort. At least we have a full offseason of not having to hear any crap from Cardinal fans. It won’t be the Cubs, but I just hope some other team opens the checkbook and signs Matt Holliday—preferable an American League team.
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by ctcoff99 on Oct 11, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ahahahaha
red sox and cards both got swept!!!
hahahaha
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
by shaqfor3 on Oct 11, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Phillies - Don't let the Rox, the chill and the altitude get to you...
I must say that the play-off results up to now are not what I would have expected just 4 days ago. It will be very interesting to see what happens during the next week or so.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
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by eths on Oct 11, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All that's left now
is for the Twins to stage an epic comeback of their own and shock the world again.
GETITDONE TWINS!!!!!!
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 11, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This playoff year is shaping up to be quite boring.
Dodgers sweep
Angels sweep
Yankees (prolly) sweep
Phils/Rox ???
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Dodgers-Yankees World Series would be exciting, though.
Maybe not like the old Subway Series of the ‘40s and ’50s, but still exciting. I just don’t want a “Freeway Series” between the two L.A. teams.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Oct 11, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have nearly no respect for either of those team’s fans. Dodger crowds look like a beach volleyball game, and I can’t cheer for teams that sell $2,500 seats.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True in both cases.
From a historical perspective it would be interesting, though. When the Cubs aren’t in it (which is way too often) I just want something interesting.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Oct 11, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's something interesting.
Need a reason to root for the Halos? In this century, every time the Angels have won the World Series, the Cubs have won a playoff series the next year.
These are the facts, and they are undisputed. :P
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 11, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was rooting for them anyway.
But this gives us even MORE of a reason.
And it’s not just in this century. It’s every time the Angels have won the WS, ever.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd vote for Phillies vs. Twins right now, but it seems unlikely.
Actually I’d like to see the Cubs vs. “who cares” in the W.S. more than anything else! Especially if the Cubs were to win.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The DS have been strange
The Yankees look primed for a sweep, but that was expected. No one expected the Cardinals and Red Sox to be swept out of the first round. Were the match ups just that lopsided? I don’t expect the Twins to win and Rockies-Phils is the only toss up.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 11, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees/Twins series could be tied if breaks had gone just a little the other way.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it will finally get the old red flag in MLB
I’m not going to get my hopes up. It’s a bit hard to complain about umpiring when all the Twins had to do was keep the Yankees from tying the game in the 9th.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 11, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is that the umpires get a break for their bad call
Just because the Twins blew some chances? There is no reason why baseball can’t fix those mistakes through instant replay. I don’t care what happened after that bad call – it was SO BAD that baseball should be embarrassed not to have replay to fix it.
I realize you’re rooting for replay too, so this is more general than a complaint about your post, but I’ve heard a lot of “well, the Twins . . .” since that game (I live in NYC) and I think it’s bull.
by madcow256 on Oct 11, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We cannot know...
… what would have happened if the correct call would have been made and Mauer would have been on second. Would he have stolen some signs for the next hitter? Would the pitch sequence have been the same? It’s impossible to know.
What we do know is that the Twins got jobbed out of a leadoff double. I’ll leave it to the stat experts to post the run expectancy of that situation as opposed to what Mauer eventually got (a leadoff single) — but I do know the Twins would have had a much better chance of scoring with Mauer on second with nobody out than with him on first.
Agreed that the Twins should have scored at least one run with the bases loaded and nobody out. But still.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I would prefer to watch a sport where we can remove the umpiring as an excuse for how things turned out, and leave it up to the players on the field. A team like the Twins already have about $140m reasons they should lose this series to the Yanks and the umpires shouldn’t be another.
by madcow256 on Oct 11, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weeeee!!
I was just reading THE BOOK here in Kansas on a cold day. Page 19, run expectancy by the 24 base/out states:
2B & 0 outs: 1.189
1B & 0 outs: .953
FWIW:
1B, 2B, 3B & 0 outs: 2.417
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
It’s not as big a difference as I thought. But still…
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too thought it would be higher.
A quarter of a run is large, however.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In international Soccer referee decisions are final...
…and reality is often bent to agree with the decision, e.g. Maradona’s “Hand of God” goal. It is considered “part of the game.” The strangest case I know of was a shot, which went past the left side of the goal, i.e. the shot missed the entire goal, being scored as a goal. Refereeing is always a great subject for starting an argument.
To be fair, most of the times the referees, umpires, etc. do make the correct calls, and do so in a split second.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if they make the right call 98% of the time (which I think they do)
if we can add something like replay to cut down another 1% of bad calls, why not do it?
by madcow256 on Oct 11, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, and...
… that’s another reason to try to make sure that the 99% of correct calls gets closer to 100%.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 11, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not arguing against improving the correct call ratio.
I only wanted to point out, it ain’t that bad. What I don’t want to see is a technology which is invasive and changes the rhythm (atmosphere) of the game.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why you limit it to two challenges per team per game.
That might still take less time than the arguments you now see, which often result in manager ejections.
You’d see far fewer ejections with the challenges in place.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 12, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be blasphemous but aren't manager ejections part of the ceremony?
It may not be sporting, but the whole ritual of two “elderly pot bellied” men yelling at each other with exactly 1 inch of space between them is part of the atmosphere. This used to be a fine art which has sadly declined in the last couple of decades.
::grin::
On a more serious note, one or two challenges per team per game sounds reasonable. Another idea might be “unlimited” challenges per game. If a challenge is successful then the team is awarded a further challenge. If the challenge is not successful, then no further challenges for that team during the game.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL on "two elderly potbellied men yelling at each other".
But seriously, I’d rather see them get it right than have that kind of theater.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 12, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember Ron Luciano
He was the reason I used to watch Sox games on channel 32 – at least I think it was channel 32 way back in those days.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The umpires should be replaced for the series if they blow calls like that.
Bud needs to see that some umpires have no reason to be doing postseason games. Much better umps are sitting at home because of the dumb ways the union has set up their rotation.
by TJ11 on Oct 11, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the blantant umpiring that favored the Yankees, right?
The best game this playoffs was a regular season game, the Tigers @ Twins.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's obvious why the Cardinals lost
They didn’t have enough left-handed hitters.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Oct 11, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep they need guys with two left hands...
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Hendry should call and offer them Mike Fontenot and Aaron Miles
to replace Mark DeRosa.
Inspector #23 certifies that the above post is sarcasm free, most certainly not what she said, and chock full of intangibles, although regressing to the intangible mean, as you'd expect.
by DGU on Oct 11, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Twins - Go Phillies
vs. 
in the WS???
Guten Nacht – Time for bed here…
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For some reason the Phillie Fanatic
Is the only baseball mascot I like. Just goofy fun.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers duel.
I’m really nervous about this one.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavano with 5 shut out innings
Nothing that happens in the post season surprised me anymore.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody has a Google Wave account?
I have mine up and going but it’s useless because I have no contacts.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no, lo siento.
Saw Minnesota went to 5-0 with a rout over St. Louis (liked the Rams uniforms today).
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rams ran the ball a little too much for my liking.
I’m not sold on the ViQueens LBs yet, and their secondary seems small. But still undefeated and looking like a solid team.
What’s new with you?
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much, just relaxing.
GRE will likely happen in early November. After that, who knows?
Also looking forward to Iowa-Wisconsin next week, and the Giants-Saints matchup in the NFL a week from today.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about you, anything new?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing man.
Ate good stuff this weekend. Been watching the sporting happenings. I get the day off from work tomorrow.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO AND I WANT AN INVITE. RIGHT NOW.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get any. I think I got the cholo version
because I got no invites and I can’t do a bunch of other stuff.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very OT:
Please, don’t ever make the Denver Broncos wear the uniforms they did today. Those had to be the ugliest things I have ever seen people wear.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon.
Excretion colors personify downtown Denver… (j/k of course, Denverites)
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they'll be wearing those things next week, too.
Couldn’t they just pull out the “Orange Crush” uniforms? At least those were pretty.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were horrid.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Yankees.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't we all.
At least, the Red Sox are out! :)
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now even more.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football update:
Indianapolis 7, Tennessee 0
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Taking language lessons from Lee Elia, I see.
Well done. :)
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to quit watching baseball. :-(
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JOE BUCK needs to STFU for slobbing the Yankees here.
It’s so ridiculous I am getting more mad at him than I am at the actual Yankee players.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chip Carey.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry.
We’ll all be saying that next week during the ALCS/NLCS.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looks painful.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
every yankee fan hates ortiz for juicing
but loves arod
its wierd..
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 11, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I want him to do is break Barry Bonds
HR record…Other than that,,,green it.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 11, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My husband just said the same thing.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He thinks so. ;-)
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD JOB IOWA!
Wooo! Good job winning! I’m glad you guys are #12.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.....it was
not our best effort.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very excited to play the #12 team in the country.
My roommate is both an Iowa fan and a White Sox fan. It tests my patience, weekly.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aw, poor Dan
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't screw the pooch here Twins...
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And they sure did.
I should just go watch that stupid HBO hipster show….
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Jose, I have a google wave account....
but they’re useless ‘cause I can’t invite anyone else :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 11, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMNIT
EVERYBODY’S AT THE PARTY AND I’M NOT INVITED
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd invite you if we could....but there's no "second-order" invites. lame.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 11, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok...let me try it....
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 11, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PUNTO DAMNIT.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
COME ON JOE MAUER
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Joe Mauer NEVER breaks bats.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Greetings from Chicago:
Actual photo, taken on Ashland Ave.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also from Chicago:
Taken on Milwaukee Ave.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 11, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tickets for this game weren't as hard to come by as one might have thought, considering it could be the last game @ the Metrodome.
Many of my friends in MN bought tickets with ease, and one had 6 extras…he bought 8, thinking his friends would love to go, but that’s not the case apparently.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some times I can't believe Johnny Damon has a job.
He is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad as an outfielder. His defense is only bad, but his ARM is terrible. Ugh, gag me.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, I would, but I hope your family wouldn't file charges. ;)
But you’re right about Damon.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 11, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you SURE that was a foul ball, ump?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
chase utley looks like a person i would hate without really knowing him
must be the soul patch
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 11, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Werth's is werths
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 11, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this just went to F-ED.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, this either is going to be interesting.
Or it’s going to be the third sweep of four division series.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kubel strikes out for the NINTH time in the series.
Wow.
And a fan runs onto the field. Probably a bet. Last time he’s gonna do that @ the Metrodome.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm really sad about losing the season and the Dome.
Kubel had a terrible series and I hate him for it, but without him and his contribution last weekend vs. KC and Monday vs. Detroit, the Twins would not had reached.
by chilango2 on Oct 11, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 series down.
3 sweeps.
YAWN.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 11, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well that sucked
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 11, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies should have started Pedro tonight
Happ lasted 3 innings, now Blanton goes 2 (will go more). I don’t get not using Pedro.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 11, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Morning (6.10 AM here)
- Twins swept? I really didi not expect that.
- It’s only the 5th in Denver – slow game?
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be a bullpen parade the rest of the game
So brace yourself for another 10 hours of baseball
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 11, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to get out of bed sooner than that, and do stuff like go to work...
…It is unusual to wake up at 6:00 A.M. German time and hear that a game is still in the second third of innings.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 11, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PAINFULLY slow game
I can’t imagine how painful it must be for everyone at the ballpark, where it is below freezing right now. If I had to umpire a game in that kind of cold, I think I’d call the strike zone about the size of a jumbo jet, just to make things go quickly.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Oct 11, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy's zone is about the size of a baseball
Need a pitcher that can bring some movement to induce swings for this guy. Bullpen guys generally can;t pull that off.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 11, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not the Colorado and Philly bullpen guys, anyway.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Oct 11, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God this is taking forever - they have been frozen
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stevie!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 11, 2009 11:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I always love seeing him
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 11, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaand now he's hurt
Turned his ankle trying to cut and chase a bunt :(
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 11, 2009 11:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Derrek Lee knows all about his bad fielding
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look!
A fair ball that was called fair!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 12, 2009 12:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nearly 2AM on the East Coast
and all those people in Denver are freezing their asses off. I love MLB scheduling.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 12:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
set up perfectly for lidge to blow it
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 12, 2009 1:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And they go to Lidge anyway
How ironic, this is their postseason right here
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gets one out
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
walks the next guy
Giambi comes up with one on and one out
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonzalez is a good player- steals second there
I think we will have a tie soon
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Extra innings? Please no. Just let the Phillies win, please...
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lidge is like Marmol and Gregg combined this year
Actually their added up ERA’s are probably equal.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies win 6-5
Lee tomorrow to finish it up
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 12, 2009 1:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
High time....
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Night all
I suspect Eyre might be injured for the next round.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 1:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good night guys - gotta run, I'm late enought the way it is.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 12, 2009 1:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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