At Least ONE Division Series Is Competitive: NLDS Game 4 Preview, Phillies vs. Rockies, Monday 10/12, 5 PM CT
by Al Yellon on Oct 12, 2009 3:00 PM CDT
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PrintSo far, the best game this October has been a regular season game -- the Twins/Tigers tiebreaker on October 6. Though there have been exciting comebacks and more exciting comebacks after controversial plays and even more exciting comebacks on stunning bullpen meltdowns, three series are already over as three-game sweeps. When the history of this season is looked back on, it will appear that those three series were one-sided and dull.
Which is why I'd like to see the Rockies win tonight (this afternoon? these wacky game times have me scratching my head), to at least force one winner-take-all game in the Division Series round. Also, if the Phillies win today, that means no baseball until Thursday, since that's the date the NLCS will begin at Dodger Stadium. Did you know that if the championship series wind up in sweeps, there will be eight days between the end of the ALCS and World Series? Way to keep interest at a peak, Bud. Here's the complete postseason schedule.
And the weather isn't supposed to be much warmer in Denver today; game time temperature is likely to be in the upper 30's and fall from there. This is very unusual; the average high in Denver for October 12 is 70 degrees.
Phillies at Rockies, 5 pm CDT. Phillies lead series 2-1. TV: TBS. Announcers: Brian Anderson and Joe Simpson
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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It's been a disjointed postseason so far
Especially this series given with the snow-out game and all the odd starting times.
Penguin approves: It was a beautiful evening for baseball
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
Who dat on the photo? He looks like this d-bag:
Actor Scott Caan, son of legendary d-bag James Caan.
Gale Sayers is on line one...
…and he’s pissed!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Fun fact:
My doctoral student office is adjacent to the Gale Sayers Library / Computer Lab. He’s a KU graduate and was recently named the KU Athletics as the face of raising monies for some new addition-for-rich-people at the football stadium.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I agree Al
I am still trying to figure out why the Phils and the Rockies played at 10:07EST. Yeah I know they want the world renowned Yanks at primetime and the Broncos played home yesterday. However they could of done a better job of the game time. Hell I was up till 2:05am watching the game, a good game and probably no one saw it.
All I can say is go Angels.
Why would anyone stay up until 2:05 am watching the Rockies play?
BTW, when is Marquis pitching? Good for him that he got out of Chicago to adoring fans (sorta like Orton).
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Jason is in the bullpen
Only likely to come out if starter goes down early or if it is a blowout. Had very bad last month of the season. I want
Pedro to start.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I woked until 11:15pm
Get home and do not go to bed right away, family was already in the rack, it was a good game, and I did not have to get early in the morning. Plus I guess I am nuts.
It was kind of cool listening to breakfast baseball.
My Alarm went of in the bottom of the 5th (6:00 AM) and I ended arriving at work ½ a hour or so late.
But from an American POV the starting time was a real joke.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
where are you?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Germany
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
Ah. Assuming Frankfurt (Central European Time) that is +2 UTC....
Makes sense.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Munich
Btw: CET is +1 UTC (winter) & CEST is +2 UTC (summer)
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
Ah! Makes sense. Thanks.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I saw it
I was at the game last night, and it was downright frigid! I have sat through some cold games before, but never anything like that.
In Heaven there is no beer, That's why we drink it here, and when were gone from here, all our friends will be drinking all our beer!!
by By Santo's Grace on Oct 12, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It was probably warmer at the NHL Winter Classic last January.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
LDS should be best of 7
At the very least, it would guarantee fans at least 2 games in each ballpark. Being down 2-0 in a best of 5 is a death sentence for a team. A best of 7 would be more exciting!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
And crowds mutant fans...
Evolution in action…
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
WE WILL GET THAT NEXT YEAR, DON'T WORRY.
It snowed in Minnesota last week.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
So Much for Global Warming
"What we have here is a failure to communicate" - Strother Martin as "Captain"
It just went Bam Bam at the Pebbles
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
Victorino strikes first with a dong to right center.
1-0 Phils
Weird shadows at the park, a la Wrigley.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
If I see that @$&#*%^ Blackberry ad one more time, I am going to scream.
For the last time, TBS: I AM NOT BUYING A BLACKBERRY
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The one with the girl taking videos of the other guys in the crew krumpin'
so she can go back home and practice her moves in front of a mirror, and then show off to them later is the worst.
If you have to practice it, honey, you ain’t really krumpin.’
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
MLB Network right now has the highlights of the 1955 World Series.
Dodgers vs. Yankees. God, I hope this isn’t this year’s matchup.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
Guten Nacht - Go Phillies
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
I just don't understand why
they schedule the whole playoffs before it starts. NBA and NHL don’t do it and seem to do just fine. It should be scheduled based on when series end, maybe that could help.
Bud argues something for hotels. I don't remember what, but it matters naut.
He’s an idiot.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
gee - and who might those hotels be for?
Certainly not the fans of the home team – which should be the vast majority of those in attendance. Unless of course, this is not the case. Surely it can’t be because of all the stuffed suits and VIPs and Class B has-been actors and actresses that dot the roster of lame FOX and TBS shows? Nahhhhhh…….
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Tulo hits the gap.
Phils dos
Rox uno
Todd Helton moving on the base paths like an ox.
But seriously, do you realize how friggin AWESOME Todd Helton is? He’s a career .328 hitter. His career OPS+ is 141. 141!! He has nearly 2200 hits, 330 HR, and 1200+ RBI. He’s better than average defensively at first base, and his career WAR is superb. And he’s spent his entire career with the Rockies. FIRST BALLOT HOFer.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Damn
that is pretty good.
He kind of flies under the radar in Denver. If he’d put up those numbers in New York or Boston, ESPN would revere him as a god.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
Ibanez pulls a Holliday!
Loses the ball in LF in the lights/towels!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
Picture reply fail
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
This is a classic grand slam by the Phillies situation here
But I think the Rockies squeeze out of it
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
OH MY GOD THAT MIGHT BE TOP 10 PLAYS OF THE YEAR
FOWLER JUST JUMPED ENTIRELY OVER UTLEY IN A 4-6-3 DP ATTEMPT. EVERYONE’S SAFE!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Jason Giambi with the rope to left.
New ballgame.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
YAY!
We’re gonna have a game 5! Prolly.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
When have I heard THAT before.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard disagrees with that.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
More bad closers.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks we have an entertaining game
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Brad Lidge to close ?
This could be interesting.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
This is bullshit.
I don’t want the only four teams left to be:
LA
LA
NY
PHIL
D
U
M
B
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I don't hate the Rockies but I still prefer the Phillies
They now have 5 ex Cubs ( Moyer is injured and won’t play in the post season but he would get a ring if they win).
I am still waiting for Holliday to touch the plate.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI one of my all time favorite baseball team commercials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1OLJNQW_d0
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
With Lidge closing
This could be interesting yet
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Yikes he was sort of injured yesterday.
He also through a lot of pitches .Well if your other choice is Lidge it is kind of ugly. Go Stevie
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
Eyre?
Really?
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Announcers ask if Eyre " can field his position" ?
I hope we don’t have to find out.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
Carlos Gonzalez aka the rockies star this series
starts the rally
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
YES
SINGLE
2 ON
2 OUT
I LIVE FOR THIS!!!!JR2389H8FP340HG843JQWG[
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Helton with a hit
and it’s up to Tulo again.
Lidge coming in (i think)
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Tulo gonna show why he kicks ass and takes names.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
from what I've seen
those are the best 4 teams this year
by LT on Oct 12, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Lidge wins
Go figure.
Go Phillies ALL THE WAY.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
Really who ?
I don’t like wife beater Myers but I can’t think of anyone else I don’t like. Big fan of Stevie, Stairs, Victorino, Pedro & Lee among others.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i really dont like victorino rollins utley and werth
utley and werth mostly because of their soul patches. not sure why i dont like victorino and rollins, i just do
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 12, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I respect your hate. And I salute you for it, good sir.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I love the Flying Hawaiian.
He was the one who showed me why Lou was a bad manager at that game back in April of 07. As the BACK UP
leadoff guy ( Rollins was out) he made Lilly throw 12 pitches in his first at bat. He did not even get on but that is when I saw what real leadoff guy could do.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate all the people on the Yankees roster.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
There is probably one player I don't hate on the Yankees roster
but I would have to look it over closely.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I do to
I always wonder what if the Cubs had hired him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I recall that the rationale behind not signing Joe was that they didn't want him ...
making rookie mistakes for the Cubs as a manager. They wanted him to make rookie mistakes somewhere else, undoubtedly where it wouldn’t matter as much.
Great thinking on Cubs’ management’s part. I am sure that Joe feels that the Yankees are his training wheels on the way to the truly big time in Chicago.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 12, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a manager before he got to the Yankees
He was NL manager of the year with the Marlins. Actually he was unemployed when it was awarded.
by LT on Oct 12, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right.
I forgot about his stint with the Fish. Still, wasn’t there something about the Cubs not wanting an inexperienced manager as the reason why they didn’t hire him?
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Oct 13, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Joe wanted to manage the Cubs
but he won’t be leaving the Yankees. Cubs will have to look elsewhere. Perhaps an old teammate.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps an old teammate.
MILTON BRADLEY?
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 12, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Girardi
I wanted Girardi to take over for Dusty. Overall, I think Piniella has done a good job managing the Cubs. However, this past season’s performance was not good. Piniella deserves the chance to finish out his contract.
I wanted Girardi because he is someone that’s got more left in the managing tank than Lou does. I don’t see Girardi leaving the Yankees for the Cubs, either.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
I'll be cheering for the Angels, thank you very little.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Other than winning the WS last year what is wrong with the Phillies
Very well constructed team with both home grown players, good FA signings and one hell of a midseason trade.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They won the World Series last year.
The Angels deserve it more. I don’t like ANYTHING about the Yankees or Dodgers. I’ll take the Angels.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I get the Phillies already won so let someone else view but
still like the Phillies . Won’t hold their winning against them and I especially want Stevie to get another ring.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 12, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Lopes and Bowa
It’s funny to see the long time Dodger, Lopes, in a Phillies uniform, coaching first base. It’s also funny to see the long time Phillie, Larry Bowa, in a Dodgers uniform, coaching third base. The Cubs’ farm system was so bad when Dallas Green got to the organization that he had to trade for a lot of veteran players to build the 1984 club. Lopes and Bowa were two of those guys. I sure wish Bowa had hit better for the Cubs.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
The weirdest thing about Lopes' career...
… is that one of the Phillies current players, Jamie Moyer, was his teammate.
On the Cubs. 23 years ago. Look it up.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Amazing, but true.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
June 16 - July 20, 1986
I do see Jamie Moyer was brought up more than a month before the Cubs traded Lopes to the Astros for Frank DiPino in 1986. At age 64, I think Lopes could do a better job stealing bases than half of the Cubs’ current roster.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Well Bowa may not have hit that well
but I kind of like that guy we got with him in the same trade.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 13, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
That Minor League Shortstop
I heard that guy never panned out as a major league shortstop. He only played 7 games in the big leagues at that position. IIRC, his name was something like Sanderson or Sundberg
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
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