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Ignore the guy on the left. On the right is Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo. He might be available -- if so, the Cubs should grab him.

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Ignore the guy on the left. On the right is Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo. He might be available -- if so, the Cubs should grab him.

With still more than 24 hours to go before the league championship series begin, mainly thanks to three sweeps and one four-game division series, here are a few Cub and baseball-related notes for you to pick over today.
  • Starlin Castro went 3-for-5 in his first Arizona Fall League game yesterday. Castro, who won't turn 20 until late March, is an exciting SS prospect who might get himself a spring training invitation with a strong showing in the AFL.
  • Here are some further details about the Cubs' one-day stay in bankruptcy yesterday.
  • Texas Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo, acknowledged as one of the best in the game, may be available; his contract is up at the end of October:
    Can the Cubs get Jaramillo? Not if he decides he's too comfortable in Texas. If he decides to leave, the primitive work conditions at Wrigley could become an issue. So, too, could the question of what happens if Piniella leaves after 2010 and the next manager wants to bring in his own guy.

    But Hendry should do everything he can to answer any questions Jaramillo has. He would be the best thing to happen to the Cubs since the Derrek Lee trade.

Star-divide

  • Rob Neyer says forget about more replay in baseball as long as Bud is in charge:
    Bud Selig has been described as a revolutionary, but of course today's revolutionary is tomorrow's reactionary. Realignment and wild cards; interleague play; expansion; franchise movement; "this time it counts"; video review ... what do all these things have in common? All have happened on commissioner Selig's watch, and nearly all have not been revisited since, even in the face of obvious deficiencies. Do we really want to see the Royals playing the Pirates in June? Are all 30 franchises perfectly placed? Is 30 the perfect number of franchises? Is the All-Star Game the best way to determine the home team in the World Series.

    Perhaps. Perhaps not. My point is that these discussions are essentially irrelevant as long as Bud Selig is commissioner. I promise you that the moment a new commissioner is in place, the offices at Major League Baseball and within the 30 franchises around the nation (plus Toronto) will be buzzing with talk about addressing these and other core issues.
  • Think baseball always plays second fiddle to the NFL? Not this time: the Philadelphia Eagles have had a game time changed due to a possible Phillies World Series home game.

Finally, there has been quite a bit of discussion elsewhere regarding Rockies manager Jim Tracy sticking with Huston Street against Ryan Howard in game four on Monday, rather than bringing in lefty Joe Beimel. (Kind of reminds me of this Cubs/Phillies game, where Lou refused to warm up John Grabow to face the Phillies' lefties until it was too late.) Baseball Prospectus' Joe Sheehan has the details. ($ -- and I take Sheehan with a grain of salt after his completely wrongheaded take on the Milton Bradley suspension last month.) However, this might not be as cut-and-dry as it appears. While Ryan Howard is a much poorer hitter against LHP than RHP, a comment on this post at the Dodgers/Angels blog 6-4-2 shows that the three-year LHB splits for Street and Beimel aren't that different. And, Street had never faced Howard before, which is usually advantage: pitcher... and Howard was 3-for-10 vs. Beimel, the three hits being a double, triple and home run.

The choice didn't work out for the Rockies, and they lost the series as a result. But the choice for Jim Tracy wasn't as obvious as some say.

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OMG, I forgot the AFL started. Gotta check the daily boxscores now to see how our Cubs on the Mesa Solar Sox are doing...

Well, it’s something to do while waiting for Spring…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't Jaramillo's exit from Texas queer the possible exit of [name redacted]?

I thought Jaramillo was heralded as part of [name redacted]’s success there.

by chilango2 on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was heralded as one of, if not the main reason

for the success of a certain man whose last name loosely translates to “Of the Rose.” Could they be a package deal to come to Chicago?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I love and praise my former man-crush,

I’m not 100 percent sold on his return. All I care about right now is dumping [name redacted] to some poor team. After that happens, I’ll concern myself with reacquainting myself with my old love interest.

by chilango2 on Oct 14, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa and Jaramillo aren't excatly tied at the hip

But I can see the clamor coming a mile away should Jaramillo get hired (and I think it’s a long-shot, given how much value Nolan Ryan seems to put into his pitching and hitting coaches).

That said, I agree. Before much of anything can happen this off-season, [name redacted] needs to be moved.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With or without

Jaramillo, any discussion about Dero returning needs to include the possibility of offseason wrist surgery and how that could impact his performance in 2010.

"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root

by TheRiot Police on Oct 14, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To whom?

After the last few seasons, it’s going to be very hard to find someone who is willing to take the risks that having [name redacted] on the roster will mean.

Everyone remembers when he blew out his ACL in 2003 when yelling at an umpire. How is anyone to know that he won’t change how he acts?

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on the team.

Some will think they can mitigate that risk, whether it be because of a manager or low-media coverage.

Take Detroit, for example. Gary Sheffield was a royal pain just about everywhere else he played, but never really stirred the pot within the Tigers clubhouse (he did take shots at former employers while a Tiger, though). People cited Jim Leyland’s influence in that instance. Would Detroit be open to acquiring Bradley because they know they have a manager who can handle a rough personality? It’s entirely possible that they would, provided the Cubs took something (a bad contract, aging player, etc.) in return.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're on to something here.

Maybe Leyland can handle someone like Bradley, and of course they have some bad contracts they want to dump, which likely makes them a motivated seller.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 14, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland has a history of handling problematic players

Whether they be big egos (Bonds, Bonilla, Sheffield) or just navigating through sticky situations (Magglio Ordonez’s vesting option could have been a real distraction for the Tigers in 2009, but never really became one, largely because of Leyland).

Especially with some of the contracts Detroit has, I could see them easily becoming a trade partner with the Cubs on this.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Options...

Carlos Guillen – 13 million in 2010 and 2011?

Dontrelle Willis – 2010 for $12 million?

Did Magglio Ordonez reach the contract stipulation that triggered 36 million dollars over the next two seasons? I believe i read that it was 500 AB, in which case… no.

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by AndrewJStone on Oct 14, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maggs' option has not triggered.

He has one year left. He’d need 540 PA in 2010 to trigger the option.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 14, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe his play in 2009 DID trigger it for 2010 (so far).

But, as you point out, obviously the 2010 option requirements for 2011 haven’t been reached.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 14, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say Ordonez and Willis would both be options.

I don’t know where the Cubs could play Guillen, to be honest (I don’t think he could play 2B).

Now, if the Cubs really wanted to try to turn Bradley-for-Willis/Ordonez into a bigger deal involving Granderson, that would really be interesting, in my opinion.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They also have Bonderman owed 12.5M in 2010

Ordonez triggered the clauses to flip 2010 from a club option to guaranteed. He had to have either (135 starts or 540 PAs in 2009 – not met), or (270 starts or 1,080 PAs in 2008-09). He had 1,141 plate appearances.

He could still trigger the 2011 clause to guarantee $15M if he has:
135 starts or 540 PAs in 2010, or
270 starts or 1,080 PAs in 2009-10

He started 123 games in 2009 and needs 147 starts (unlikely in the NL), or 562 PA in 2010 (very possible) to trigger $15M for 2011.

I still wonder how the Tigers view Granderson. He’s loved, but the deal’s in place to 2012. If his splits for 2009 were an anomoly, $10M in 2012 and $13M for 2013 are bargains. If they continue, this is another albatross contract.

If I were JH, I’d offer the suspended one to the Tigers for Granderson and Willis and either player to be named later or – Cash.

How long can a PTBL sit open?
If the CBA allows, I’d want PTBL to take place completion of the 2010 season, Tigers list players on 40 man they want to make available as PTBL, if Cubs don’t want any of those old guys or their contract, Cubs pay $5M toward MB salary in 2011.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 14, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see the Cubs using The Suspended One and a PTBNL

for Granderson and Bonderman/Willis. While the Cubs would be adding money, they also get some talent in return for a player all of MLB knows they are trying to trade.

Perhaps a Bradley/Fox (he gives Detroit their DH)/PTBNL (Stevens, maybe?) would pry Granderson and allow the Cubs to receive another Minor Leaguer or reclamation project in return.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Suspended One ???

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 14, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure nothing was intended by this other than a

play on words, but…

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Detroit do that?

Granderson is only owed $5.5 Mil for next season. They could do better if they want to trade away their cheap starting CF’er. Yes they would save money but your proposal makes no sense.

Look at it this way, would the Cubs trade Bradley for either Willis or Bonderman straight up? It is possible just to get out from that contract.

So now you want the Tigers to throw in Granderson for Fox? I think the Tigers could do much better. Granderson’s numbers last season were still .249 / .327 / .453 with 30 HR’s. He may not be a leadoff hitter but those numbers with his defense is still worth a lot.

by rlpete on Oct 15, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granderson is cheap for next season,

However, if you’re the Tigers it depends whether his ’08 performance is the norm. With ’08 being the only year he could hit LHP, the average of amost $8M owed the next three years for a platoon player.

Why would Detroit do it. 1. To hedge their bets that ’08 was a career year and sell high on Granderson. 2. To use Granderson, while annual salary below $6M, as bait to get someone to take an albatross contract as well.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

point #2 I could see as being plausible - not likely, but plausible.

Point #1 though… the concept of selling high is a fine one, but selling high only makes sense if you get a good return. If you’re assuming that Bradley is for the albatross contract (Maggs or Willis), then that means your “good return” is Fox and Stevens???

I’m sure the Tigers can do much better than that elsewhere.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, the good return is securing a short term player for RF, while

offloading lead weight and freeing capital to sign key arb eligible players for the next few years.

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by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that sounds like good return for Maggs - how does Granderson fit in?

plus, you make it sound as if the Tigers actually want Bradley. At this point, I don’t think any team wants Bradley. They just view it as Hendry does – it’s a swap-o-rama time, and it’s a matter of figuring out what do you dislike the least.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is how they view Granderson.

Is he still viewed as an all world player to build around or is was his career year rewarded and he’s really a strong platoon CF.

I was thinking Granderson’s perceived value would entice a team to take on more than a one for one swap or include cost controlled prospects the Tigers will need for the lean years.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can add another player to the Fox/Stevens platter

In all honesty, those were the first two players to pop to mind.

Fox is marketable in Detroit as a former UM player (though he’ll alienate the other half of Tigers fans), and under control, so he may hold some value there.

Stevens is an arm for leaky pen.

And I would add another player to that offer if it meant coming back with Granderson.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Granderson for Fox.

As NOakley mentions, Granderson becomes expensive starting in 2011. If the Cubs are going to take back an Ordonez/Bonderman/Willis for Bradley, then I think the trade can be expanded in a capacity that allows the Cubs to ask about Granderson, given his decline in 2009 and his cost moving forward.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted because I believe it's a decent framework.

Is there a prospect the Tigers want as well that’s not Vitters?

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by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends.

I think Fox holds some value due to his local roots in Detroit (attending Michigan). You can market that.

As for whom the Cubs could add aside from Fox/Stevens (just the first two that popped to mind), it depends on how Detroit feels about Clete Thomas. He could play CF with Bradley/Fox in RF/DH, conceivably. If Detroit felt compelled to have CF, I could see sending Fuld or Johnson (after re-signing him) to Detroit to help them fill that hole.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way

to even have any chance at Granderson would be to also take Ordonez.

Bonderman and Willis deals are not that bad considering the Cubs are unloading Bradley. They are basically a wash. Thinking the Tigers have to kick in more with Granderson is wishful thinking.

by rlpete on Oct 15, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if the Tigers are seriously looking at cutting payroll

Granderson becomes expensive in 2011, so if Detroit thinks his 2009 season is a sign of things to come, they’d be smart to sell. Especially as Clete Thomas is a controlled cost for several years. The biggest issue is how much Detroit values Thomas.

I think the Cubs could put together a package to land Bonderman/Granderson from Bradley and prospects.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would take Granderson and Ordonez...

… depending on what you’d have to give up to get them. That’s a lot of contract dollars so I think you’d have to insist they at least take Miles as well as Bradley.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I would too

and then worry about how to fit Soriano, Granderson, Fukudome and Ordonez into the lineup.

And with 4 of them for 3 spots, you’re just about guaranteeing that Ordonez’s 2011 option won’t vest, making him a 1-year rental. And then you have a Soriano-Granderson-Fukudome OF for 2011, which isn’t terrible.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we'll have to disagree

I don’t see Bradley, Fox and a middle range prospect or two getting Bonderman and Granderson.

You want to take Ordonez and Granderson, you might be getting closer but the question is whether the Cubs would do that.

by rlpete on Oct 15, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they would...

… because of the necessity of dumping Bradley’s contract.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a long shot, I'd agree.

I think Ordonez & Granderson would be much more likely to something Bradley, Fox & another prospect or two would procure.

It really depends on how Detroit values Ordonez vs. Willis & Bonderman – two of those guys would seem to be the odd men out as they look to extend Verlander’s contract.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if you're referring to the structure I invented

trying to leverage Granderson into the deal. It wasn’t the Tigers throwing in more, it’s the Cubs. My thought is to give the tigers the option of making the money (from the Cubs) or a contract (from the Tigers) the Tigers option as a PTBNL – after the 2010 season, the Tigers have the option of having listing players they want to include or have the Cubs pay $5M of Bradley’s contract.

Say IF Ordonez reached his goals and guaranteed the $15M in 2011 and the Tigers can’t move him. They could list offer him up to the Cubs. If the Cubs would rather have Magglio and pay the $15M, versus the $5M cash paid, they could accept him.

Most of my proposition was looking for opinion of whether this type of structure is allowed. No responses yet.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 16, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

An intriguing proposal.

Works for me. I’d love to see Granderson in centerfield – especially if RJ were still around to take some of his ABs vs. LHP. And maybe Dontrelle could re-invent himself as a set-up guy.

If you’re feeling brave, maybe run the idea by Tigers fans over at Bless You Boys.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And have them laughing

of course it is intriguing for a Cubs fan. The Cubs would make that deal in a second.

by rlpete on Oct 15, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

With the dimensions of Comerica and the limited mobility of Ordonez in right, the Tigers need a CF who can cover a lot of ground. I am not an expert on the Tigers farm system but I don’t the Tigers have any other CF options besides Granderson. Trading him away to add another RF just doesn’t make sense.

by madeindetroit on Oct 15, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, this is why...

…I’ve taken to recommending this step. It’s one thing to propose a trade as a Cubs fan, on a Cubs blog, from a Cubs fan’s perspective. It’s another to run it up the flagpole in front of fans of the other team and get their perspective on it.

One key point, which madeindetroit has brought up, is whether the trade partner team has the depth to move another player into the position in question. If the Tigers don’t have another centerfielder at the ready, then any trade of Granderson instantly becomes highly unlikely.

Of course, I suppose they could trade Granderson and then make another move for a younger, cheaper replacement centerfielder. But, again, someone more familiar with the Tigers organization would have to address the likelihood of such a thing.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 15, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I considered throwing it out there at BYB, but

am uncertain on the PTBNL rules and whether the Cub option of kicking in $5M toward 2011 for MB or taking another player el Tigres want to unload works.

If that kicker worked within the CBA, I’d post it.

As I insinuated below the attendance drop, season tix concerns, and payroll create a perfect storm where they may need to move real talent to move overpriced talent.

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by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Tigers main goal is to lock down Verlander to a multi year deal

Tigers 2009 payroll was $115,085,145. A big payroll where average game attendance dropped to 31,693 in ’09 from 39,538 in ’08 and 37,618 in ’07.

The team received no revenue for the former centerfield billboard (was GM) and the Tigers provided advertising for all three US car makers this year as a sign of solidarity and community.

They have a total $100,762,500 committed, but only to 10 players for 2010. Those 10 include guys who are not part of any short or long term solution. With the anticipated decline in season ticket holders and the current commitments, the Tigers will need to be creative to move dead contracts. They need money to keep the cost controlled players, negotiate with the arb eligible, etc.

As respects the deal I tried to structure, two years of Bradley for no worse than $15M in exchange for taking Willis’ $12.0M (I prefer Willis). Don’t tell Jessica, but include Fuld.

Cabrera, Miguel $20,000,000
Ordonez, Magglio $18,000,000
Guillen, Carlos $13,000,000
Bonderman, Jeremy $12,500,000
Willis, Dontrelle $12,000,000
Robertson, Nate $10,000,000
Inge, Brandon $6,600,000
Granderson, Curtis $5,500,000
Porcello, Rick $1,987,500
Turner, Jacob $1,175,000

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't bank on it...

…because Dumbrowski could be on thin ice in Detroit and he may not be willing to take on a problem player that could blow up on him and run him right out of town.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 14, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't heard about Dombrowski being on thin ice.

A World Series appearance and a play-in game appearance in the last 4 years isn’t too shabby.

If the Tigers need to get out from some payroll, I could see them taking on Bradley in return for the Cubs taking on one or two of their long-term payroll commitments.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They usually...

…don’t tell anyone when someone is on thin ice, but I’d bet Dombrowski is getting there.

He has spent A LOT of dough, and not unlike Hendry his recent teams have underperformed and although talented, have parts that don’t fit well together.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 14, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dombrowski's contract commitments and

overall salary would have been approved by Illich and expanded as they perceived a good window to win.

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by N Oakley on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course...

…but you have a GM to make the right baseball decisions, which means spending the money properly.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 15, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other thing...

…is I highly doubt the Cubs take on any more payroll than they would have had to pay if they kept Bradley.

They have enough “dead money” already, and I don’t see Rickett’s approving throwing good money after bad until he has a firm feel for what he has.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is, though...

… to try to exchange Bradley’s contract for another bad one — at least not just paying Bradley and releasing him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you can't envision a scenario...

…where just paying Bradley and releasing him is the best the Cubs can do?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be...

… but I assume Hendry is going to exhaust ALL trade possibilities first.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any Cub connections?

Does Jaramillo have any connections worth noting to the current Cub regime?

As for the end of the Lou era, it would seem that is a surmountable issue. Consider Rothschild, he is exhibit A for the GM having the final say in coaching decisions. If Hendry can convince Jaramillo to come, he shouldn’t have any problem convincing him of the security of his job beyond 2010.

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on Oct 14, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jaramillio would be a great pickup

But I don’t see it happening, especially since Phil Rogers started the rumor.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 14, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Giving credit where credit is due, the idea is a good one. But, naturally, there are at least a couple things about Rogers’ article that bother me:

Jaramillo is the absolute perfect man for the Cubs’ situation. He has worked successfully in the past with both Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley, the latter of whom is no guarantee to be eliminated over the offseason (unless general manager Jim Hendry releases him at a cost of $21 million).

OK, maybe it’s not guaranteed that Milton will be gone. But to even imply otherwise strikes me as evidence that, as usual, Rogers is simply not all the way in the loop.

But Hendry should do everything he can to answer any questions Jaramillo has. He would be the best thing to happen to the Cubs since the Derrek Lee trade.

This strikes me as a ridiculous overstatement and blatant attempt to oversell his idea (which, again, is a fine one as long as it’s stated reasonably).

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with overselling?

My comment there was the best comment since the POST ABOUT THE TRADE IDEA’S!

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Oct 14, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's always...

…a good policy to question anything Rogers puts out.

This guy may be a good hitting coach, but you have to rememeber Texas is one of the better hitter’s parks in baseball, and a lot of guys have career years there.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now - that rumor started with me, not Phil Rogers
Hitting coach: Throw some more mad money at Rudy Jarmillo (sp?), Texas’ hitting coach. His contract runs out at the end of this year. I’m confident he could keep this offense from slipping into a coma for weeks at a time.

From

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BCB seems to be a bit cranky this afternoon...

(continued)

From a comment I made back on Sept 28 in the "Only Five Roster Changes, Lou? fanshot

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 14, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you #1

I could use the ego boost – I’ve been having a rough time lately. The Borg keep sending me subspace transmissions telling me how to improve my credit, refinance my house and enlarge my manhood. It’s a bit much to handle and still keep on shedule.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That bit about Bud makes me so frustrated

I can’t think of a commissioner that is as out of touch as Bud. When does he retire? It can’t be soon enough.

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by Craig in South Bend on Oct 14, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not for at least three seasons

Linky

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 14, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take a look at Gary Bettman

and get back to me on dumb commissioners.

by niuhuskie224 on Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone interested in the Arizona Fall League...

…who’s also on Twitter can get updates here.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Something I’ve learned (and started to believe) more about baseball metrics when considering match-ups is both simple and beautiful: You go with your best player. Huston Street is a better pitcher than Joe Beimel, plain and simple. The extremely small sample size with Howard vs. Beimel shouldn’t be taken into consideration. I’m not taking out my best reliever to put in Beimel.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

I think Tracy made the right decision there. It just didn’t work.

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Oct 14, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaramillo

I don’t know much about him, but could the Cubs lure him to Chicago with the possibility (though not a guarantee) of replacing Lou in 2011? I’m of the opinion that none of the internal options would be great for year one after Lou, though Sandberg makes sense in a few more years.

by elgato on Oct 14, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he wants to manage

and I really would not want a guy who maybe a genius at hitting instruction but no real history at anything else.

Of course he has been at the top of my Christmas list for a while. Too bad his fellow pitching coach is under contract for another season.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 14, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do you think he doesn't want to manage?

Has he said that? I’m not arguing — I honestly don’t know.

by elgato on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has been a hitting coach for most of his career

He did manage a bit in the minors but last stint was 15 years ago. I can’t see him thinking he would get a MLB
managing job and I would not want the Cubs to be the ones offering it.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 14, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaramillo

The point is to have him here as a hitting coach, not as a manager. We have no idea how he is as a manager and handler of pitching, but more importantly, the reason to bring him in is so he can focus on helping the offense. Its certainly nice to have a manager who can help improve players in certain aspects of the game, but you bring in a guy like Jaramillo so he can exclusively focus on batters.

Jaramillo is often recognized as one of the best, if not the best batting coaches in the game. If he were to hit the open market he likely could have his pick of jobs. That aside, him leaving Texas and the offensive haven that it is could expose him like Leo Mazzone got exposed when he left Atlanta.

by dmlichte on Oct 14, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To quote Dirty Harry...

" A good man always knows his limitations…"

I’m sure there are many other examples in the baseball world, but my favorite is Ray Miller, pitching coach extraordinaire. He pretty much failed as a manager (Twins, Orioles; 266-297) but I would take him in a heartbeat as a pitching coach for the Cubs. He had three simple rules: Work fast, throw strikes, change speeds.

My guess is Rudy is happy as a hitting coach – he knows he’s good at it, and as long as he’s well-compensated, why deal with all the extra grief of being in charge?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 14, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

?????????????

Lineup a hitting coach to take over as manager???

I don’t think that’s smart.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No excuse not to get him now

he can’t make our hitters worse, hopefully he’s a Cub before the weekend

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or the day after his contract officially expires

either way, there really isn’t a reason not to have this guy

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

GETITDONEJIM1

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 14, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably not an image.

Just a funky thing that happens when you type a bunch of exclaimation points and ones in a row.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 15, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

That’s what happened.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed as well.

The only downside I see to getting Jaramillo is it would make Phil Rogers right. But I suppose we could file it in the blind-squirrel-nut category.

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by dat cubfan daver on Oct 14, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heck even Aaron Miles gets a base hit every once in a while

I would say Rogers is about a Miles (not bruce, aaron) level writer.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 14, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another source

Linky

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 14, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow . I want him now.

I posted my dream of getting him a few months ago but I did not see him leaving the Rangers. Obviously he will have offers but I have to think most big budget teams have already committed to their hitting coaches. You have to offer him a multi year deal but it money probably better spent than on another bench player.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 14, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ot,,,,,,,,what do the Cubs and Yankees have in common??

.
.
.
.
  Neither one has won a World Series in their new ball park..

my Sox fan friend told me that…..pretty decent humor…

by cozmotaylor123 on Oct 14, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another reason Fox moved the Eagles-Giants game

So they can broadcast Vikings-Packers to most of the country as the 4 PM game of the doubleheader. They saw the ratings ESPN got for that Monday night game.

Smart moving the Eagles game just in case the Phillies are playing in Game 4. Parking and traffice are a mess for Eagles games already. A lot of people would stay for both games.

by PhillyCub on Oct 14, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Derrek Lee on hitting coaches

I hate to say it, but a hitting coach is overrated,It’s more of a mental thing. Gerald was a great guy. He always had positive things to say — and same with Von. They’re always in your corner. But the bottom line is the best hitting coach is yourself. No one knows your swing like yourself. … None of the blame should go to either of those two.

sorry but i just can’t get excited about a hitting coach. its just someone to get fired before the manager.

by TJ3117 on Oct 14, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+ 1000 BCB points

Coaches are that. Coaches. They can help you see things you don’t recognize and encourage you to stop staring at those you shouldn’t be looking at. But in the end, the man who puts it together is the guy at the plate. The batter in the box. The guy facing the pitcher. You either do or you don’t. Ted Williams once said that "there’s only one way to become a hitter. Go up to the plate and get mad. Get mad at yourself and mad at the pitcher. .. “Think. Don’t just swing. Think about the pitcher, what he threw you last time up, his best pitch, who’s up next. Think.”"

In other words, the batter had better cowboy up and while paying attention to the hurler, deal with the only man who can make it happen .. HISSELF.

I also wonder what Ted might say about coaches after he said that “all managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth.” Dang. I wish I’d never given my book by Ted Williams on hitting that had full spread pictures of him to my kid brother when I joined the Navy. Man, I’d like to read more what he had to say.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhat agreed as well.

This is why I think Phil Rogers is way overselling this idea. That said, getting Jaramillo would still be nice.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 15, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe

No recognition of the events that happened six years ago tonight

"Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come. " Pedro Cerrano

by shifafaontheside on Oct 14, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To be honest,

I’d prefer not to bring that up. Still hurts, even now.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2009 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry. ESPN is bringing us a documentary on it.

As good as their first two “30 for 30” documentaries have been, I’m really not looking forward to that one.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Full disclosure.

I was asked to participate in a roundtable discussion this Saturday for this project.

At first I declined, but then it was mentioned to me that I could be the “voice of reason” and take up the contrarian view. So I’m going to do it. Expect to see me in this film.

Plus I wanted to meet Alex Gibney, the director.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations on that.

And since they’re looking for a “voice of reason,” maybe I shouldn’t be as skeptical as I initially was when I heard about.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just as skeptical as you.

Hopefully, I can put forth the opposing viewpoint.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get that the media overdoes it (that's what they do)

But it is part of who we are as Cub fans. The events of that night along with many other help to define us and our pain. One of the things I love about BCB is that I/we can discuss painful things without sniping from Sox or Carndinal fans. It’s kind of like free therapy for those of us afflicted with a love of the Cubs.

"Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come. " Pedro Cerrano

by shifafaontheside on Oct 15, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know when it will be aired?

I’ll set my DVR to record it.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't...

… but when I find out, I’ll let everyone here know.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 15, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like sometime around opening day.

Here’s the full schedule, which runs into March. I didn’t see it listed yet.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 15, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait for the Michael playing baseball one

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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