Cubs Announcement Hiring Jaramillo Expected Wednesday
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 8:06 AM CDT
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As has been rumored for the past several weeks, it is anticipated that the Cubs will announce the hiring of former Texas Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo to be their hitting coach for the next three years, at a reported cost of $2.42 million. That will make him the highest-paid hitting coach in the major leagues, and also make him the hitting coach for whoever the Cubs' next manager is -- because Lou Piniella has repeatedly stated that 2010 will be his last season.
Web links for this story here and here.
Hiring a new batting coach is not the panacea to all the Cubs' problems. But Jaramillo has a reputation as one of the best in the business, and has worked with a number of outstanding hitters in his time in Texas (where he has been the hitting coach since 1995 under four different managers), including the Cubs' Alfonso Soriano. Caveat: Soriano had two of his lowest-walk seasons in his two years in Texas, which might confirm rumors that Jaramillo encourages hitters to be "aggressive".
There is one more thing that's an encouraging sign about this signing. Spending nearly $2.5 million (over three years) on a coach indicates -- to me, at least -- that new ownership, which will likely be made official in the next couple of weeks, is not going to hold back the purse strings when it comes to improving the team. And that has to be good news. I'll update this post with the official press release when it comes out.
UPDATE: From the official press release:
The Chicago Cubs today named Rudy Jaramillo as their major league hitting coach. Jaramillo replaces Von Joshua, who at the end of the 2009 season was offered the opportunity to return to his previous position as hitting coach at Triple-A Iowa.
"Rudy Jaramillo is widely regarded as the premiere hitting instructor in the game," said Cubs General Manager Jim Hendry. "The addition of Rudy to our franchise is a strong statement from our new owners, the Ricketts family, and we thank them for allowing us to move quickly to fill this important role with the best in the business."
Jaramillo, 59, joins the Cubs after serving 15 seasons as the hitting coach with Texas, where he oversaw a Rangers offense that produced 17 Silver Slugger Awards, three home run champions, three RBI titles and a batting champion. Additionally, his hitters won four of the last 15 Most Valuable Player awards.
During his tenure, Jaramillo guided the Rangers to 13-consecutive seasons in which the offense recorded more than 800 runs scored, the longest streak by any major league team since the New York Yankees accomplished the feat in 17-straight seasons from 1926-42. Additionally, the Rangers established a major league record with 376 doubles in 2008 and hit 260 home runs in 2005, the second-highest single-season home run total in major league history.
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Unlike last year
I like this opening salvo to the post-season. Bodes well as long as we don’t over-invest in over-hyped, over-sensitive, over-paid youknowwho types
Cubs Supreme in Baseball World.
by Emelie on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that describes most professional athletes.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
He has had an amazing record either taking average ball players to the next level or impacting true superstars.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al, hopefully they will not hold back
the purse strings and do whatever it takes to build a World Series winner. This should be an interesting offseason!
by cubdreamer on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Oct 21, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to be excited by this signing.
But I’m not there yet. Seems like a lot of coin.
The proof will be in the pudding (or hitting if you will).
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 21, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree...
Seems like the same old “knee jerk” reaction Hendry takes with things. That is A LOT of money for a hitting coach. D-Lee said that a hitting coach really doesn’t “do to much” and I know he probably said this to put the onus on the players but with this group of Veterans, I’m not really sure that a hitting coach is going to make them score more runs and raise everyone’s avg. I want to be excited but like Zeke said, “I’m just not yet.”
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
''That's how it works in every aspect of life. It's no different than construction work or anything else. That's how you should be as a person.'' - Koyie Hill 8-3-09
by Fishbone2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about a "lot of money".
$800,000 a year is the price of two minimum-wage relief pitchers. Doesn’t seem like a lot to me to have the possibility of providing improvement in the hitting department.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a Hitting Coach!?!
He can’t hit for them. I think everyone pressed last year. Is it possible guys just had off years and they will bounce back? These guys are vets… Lou worked with guys last year and it still didn’t click. Without the clubhouse poison I think this team is better already. Showed at the end of the year.
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
''That's how it works in every aspect of life. It's no different than construction work or anything else. That's how you should be as a person.'' - Koyie Hill 8-3-09
by Fishbone2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do we care about the money..
I agree that Hitting Coach is probably not going to make that much of a difference. But if you are hiring someone anyways you better hire someone that’s best in the business. It is actually money well spent than paying even half of that amount to some worthless bozo.
by cubsnlinux on Oct 21, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, $800,000 would be a lot for ME. So there's my base line...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ball players
monthly per diem would be alot to me!
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much love should Jaramillo get
and how much should his launching pad ballpark take credit for it? In only two years since 2004, 2006 and 2007, did the Rangers have OPS numbers between home and away that weren’t about 100 points apart. Texas is a nasty park with serious wind-tunnel effects in the power alleys. Wrigley can have similar atmospheric effects, but it’s not nearly so pronounced.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on Oct 21, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not $800k a year really,,,
its the difference in what we paid Gerald Perry the past few seasons.
Does anyone know what he made?
by cozmotaylor123 on Oct 21, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 years, $2.42 MM
That’s quite a chunk o’ change. As long as this doesn’t inhibit the Cubs flexibility in terms of actual players, I’ll call this a gutsy move. Having top-tier talent in the organization – in any capacity – is a good thing.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree.
If this is indicative of the limit of spending then it seems like an expensive scapegoat was purchased, but if it has no affect on player acquisitions then it’s more of a bold move to try and be the best in all areas. I hope it’s the latter.
by DudeVf11 on Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something I heard...
About Jaramillo teams is that they aren’t very patient at the plate. Our patience and propensity to work deep counts and draw walks was key to our success in ’08, and the inability to do so this season led to our decline.
Can anyone who knows more about Jaramillo and his Texas teams provide a little more insight on their plate discipline, OBP, walk %.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he had like...
15 Silver Slugger winners under him! I love this signing! I can’t understand why anyone would have any ounce of opposition to this!
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying I oppose anything...
But I’m saying we need to get back to our ‘08 plate discipline, and I’m wondering what his track record is with that. Also, the 15 Silver Sluggers were probably just damn good to begin with, and probably would’ve been good without him. You give a hitting coach too much credit.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the question is how much of that is park effects?
Does he produce great hitters because of his approach, or do great hitters result from hitting in Texas? I’m not sure yet of the answer.
by SouthernCub on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at the names...
Of some of those hitters, and you’ll start to see there might be a 3rd variable involved that’s not Jaramillo or the ballpark.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ISWYDT
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 21, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess there can't be any players' excuse now for hitting
The Cubs have the best, and it’s now on the players to start hitting the ball well. And that goes far beyond swinging for the fences every time (hint, hint Fonzie).
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Oct 21, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems people on this board
don’t like anyone.
Even the DeRosa credits him with turning around his game and making him a far better hitter, soriano had his best year with him as did Bradley. It’s an excellent move.
by cubswin on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So if we don't hit next year...
Is he the first one fired?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid question
But how do you pronounce his last name?
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NOt sure if I can typre this write ut will take a shot
Ger uh me low I think!
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to ...
… his Wikipedia page, it’s pronounced:
[ha-dah-MEE-yoh]
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I thought.
Maybe someone should update the Wikipedia page.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you asked.
I was thinking it was Yar-ah-me-o. Would have felt foolish had I pronounced it wrong to someone.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on the kind of Spanish you speak
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 21, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The pronunciation of Jaramillo
doesn’t change according to the Spanish. It’s all the same. At least in this case, it is.
I have heard of different pronunciations of certain names before. So yeah.
Aqui viene el Toro Venezolano, Carlos Zambrano, a batear...el lanzamiento...A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!! GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by azul_cachorro on Oct 22, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaramillo looks like
A movie star! I just can’t think of his name.
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know who you are talking about ..but I can't remember too :-P
by cubsnlinux on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once I remmeber that will be his nickname on here
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found it...
Info coming in a few
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edward James Olmos?
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Vern, It's Earnest
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Earnest P. Worrell
Real Name Jim Varney
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
I was thinking also maybe Sheriff Lobo (Claude Akins).
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 21, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes ...
you gotta roll the hard six.
by elgato on Oct 21, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Danza?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the guy from one of those Harrison Ford "Jack Ryan" movies
I think it was the drug cartel in South America one – “Clear and Present Danger”.
Anyway, this guy was the security advisor for one of the drug lords (the one with the batting cage) and seduced the secretary friend of Anne Archer then took her up to the cabin for a little tryst that turned into a twist – of her neck, big time.
Ah… found it – his name is Joaquim de Almeida
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one else but
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this improve our team?
I think so, therefore I’m okay with it.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Oct 21, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fine with the signing ...
but didn’t Gerald Perry also have a reputation as one of the best hitting coaches in the game? Maybe I’m not remembering correctly …
by elgato on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes...
…reputations are built on variables that are out of a particular coach’s control; a hitters ballpark, getting to work with talented players, etc..
I’m sure this guy is a good hitting coach, because he wouldn’t have lasted as long as he has if he wasn’t. He knows what he is doing and has worked with a lot of different players over the years, and hopefully that translates into helping the Cubs.
Again, I’d bet Soriano, Soto etc. will have better numbers in 2010 no matter who the hititng coach was, but why not bring in a guy who is considered a top guy.
As far as his reputation for an aggressive approach; this is and always has been Hendry’s philosophy as well (long before Baker was hired), and he should be pleased with having him.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Oct 21, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I said, I'm fine with the signing
But if your first graph is referring to Perry’s reputation, the same could be said for Rudy’s, couldn’t it?
Still, I agree with a lot of what you wrote MPH. And I hope Al’s right that the signing shows the new ownership’s willingness to spend.
by elgato on Oct 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you...
…that this applies to any coach, whether you are talking pitching or hitting.
In regards to how this signals spending, I don’t really know that this is a big indicator, at least for 2010. 800K is not big considering the Cubs payroll, and I just don’t know whether you can say this signals Ricketts will authorize jacking up payroll significantly right out of the box.
I still think he will take a fairly cautious (business like approach), and may increase the payroll a tad (5-7 mil), but I’d think he is going to digest a lot of information in the coming months before he plays Daddy Gotrocks.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Oct 21, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silver Sluggers, $$$, and $teroids
I am all for this signing, I hope that he is a successful Cub coach and helps the Cub hitters and adds a bit of continuity and consistency to the team and system in the years to come.
That said, the talk of silver sluggers awarded to “his” hitters seems a bit odd. Consider who some of those were:
A-Rod, pudge, Rafael Palmeiro. I am certainly not connecting Jaramillo to steroids, but to credit his coaching with their “successes” seems off to me.
Eamus Ursuli!
by WGNstatic on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have been waiting a LONG time for this.
Here is a post from the old BCB when I was still able to be Jessica from Sept 06
Hey Jarmillo was my idea
Seriously WHATEVER it takes to get HIM.
I have NO problem making him the highest
paid coach of all time. A lot cheaper than even
a “B” class player with much more potential to
effect the Cubs hitting. GO FOR RUDY
( no idea of his contract status though)
I HATE NED COLLETTI
by jessica on Sep 16, 2006
( the old sig and I still couldn’t spell)
Here is my prescient post from last Nov.
“God I LUST for Rudy Jaramillo and I have no clue what the man looks like but from what I know he is to hitting what Maddux is to pitching. Players swear by him and worship him and the results are pretty impressive. If the Rangers ever let him go I hope the Cubs are first in line.”
I am VERY, VERY happy.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Lust"?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Metaphorically speaking of course
You people always jump to salacious conclusions over my interest in certain players or in this case coaches. I only want what is best for the Cubs. Note I said I did not know what he looks like , I would say not bad for his age but not my type.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that would get your attention.
But what else could we think after you write, “God I LUST for Rudy Jaramillo”?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want him to coach for the Cubs.
If you wrote that you lusted for Ichiro or Hanley Ramirez I would not assume it was for a night out in Boys Town.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I wouldn't write that anyway.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh go on, admit it - you love the attention when we jump to salacious conclusions...
btw – double word score for using “salacious”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 21, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at my age anyone jumping to salacious conclusions about me
and MLB players at least can be amusing but just remember I do worship Maddux for his brain & his change up and Fuld for his glove and his speed.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Kaplan
gets one right once in a while.
I think this is a good deal for the Cubs.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 21, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think Phil Rogers make the initial suggestion (in the mainstream media) to get Jaramillo.
And he’s been embarassing himself on Twitter with his Jaramillo man-crush. Examples:
@ChiTribRogers: Rudy Jaramillo and the #Cubs makes too much sense. Hard to believe it’s a done deal. Could be biggest more of off-season for NorthSiders.
and
@ChiTribRogers: Jarmillo isn’t just a guy who knows hitting. He is a tough guy who demands work/respect. Could be Lou’s enforcer. He’s the total package.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 21, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That should be nice...
Might put to rest some of Lou’s enabling.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was watching
CTL so that’s what I went by.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I'm excited about this...
Jaramillo! A great hitting coach. And you know, the Rangers won, what, six or seven championships with him at the helm. This is the guy who will make a huge difference. Huge!
err… hold on… What? The Rangers didn’t win a championships? Oh.
And they played in a ball park that inflated offensive numbers? Oh.
Nevermind.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
by Ross on Oct 21, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That's unfair
The Rangers are a relatively small market team who can’t afford top notch pitching! If you wanna use the championships a tool to gauge success, how many championships did Joe Torre have before he went to the Yanks and how many does he have after the Yanks?
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Oct 21, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? A small market team?
This is a team that opened the bank for A-Rod, Pudge, Raffie and other big hitters. They do play in a hitters’ park and big $ pitching free agents have crashed and burned in Arlington (Chan Ho Park being the most notorious).
Don’t get me wrong, I love this signing, but I am tired of seeing most stories lead with the number of silver slugger awards players on his teams have won.
Eamus Ursuli!
by WGNstatic on Oct 21, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why, but this signing just feels right.
Eamus Catuli
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 21, 2009 1:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad move...
but not a great one either. Jaramillo is widely regarded as a very good hitting coach… why? Because his team’s produced great numbers in a hitters park? Because his teams produced great numbers at the height of the steroid era? He seems to be awfully overrated to me. I don’t think it’s a bad signing, but more of a “meh” one.
by kanderber on Oct 21, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's probably the best signing they could have made
…for that position. It’s good for the PR of going after someone who has a good reputation and it’s good in that the Cubs have to have a hitting coach and they might as well have one who is considered the best in the game. The Cubs, based on their market and revenues, can afford to overpay in one of the lowest profile “uniformed” jobs. I’m hoping he actually makes a contribution to the hitting of the team, but I’m not holding my breath.
by mykalmorgan on Oct 21, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i for one welcome our new hitting overlords
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 21, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to remind them that as a trusted BCB poster
I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground batting cages
"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder
by PacificCub on Oct 21, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Is he bringing better players with him?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 21, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i believe jaramillos contract states that adam lind must sign with the cubs...
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that your comment contains no capital letters is rich with irony.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Oct 21, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know about bringing players
but could he sneak Mike Maddux into his suitcase ?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah.
Then your coach-lust would know no bounds.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if he brought along his snarky kid brother to keep him company.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 21, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are we back to the wait and hope for a Three Run Homer days?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 21, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because that has worked so well in the past...
… perhaps we can get Earl Weaver to replace Lou.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
by Ross on Oct 21, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if Rudy really preaches aggression
then we might see some relapse to the Baker days
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 21, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Righto
Get ready for 2004 and the solo HR fests…though at least we were in it until the final week that year,
by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just surmising
The Cubs don’t have any other Latin coaches in uniform (maybe DeJesus before the game). Now, Lou and Larry speak Spanish, but maybe part of the appeal of Jaramillo is that he is old enough to command respect from all the players, and brings a comfort level for a few of our hitters who like to take a LOT of BP, namely Soriano. Certain players spend a lot of time with the batting coach, not because he’s changing their approach, but just because he’s the one who has to go with them to the cages when they put in their work. The Cubs may feel Rudy can help calm down Zambrano, motivate Geo, or mentor Starlin Castro. But he may also just be a hard worker with a reputation for putting in extra time with anyone who wants to take more BP.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
by zambranofan on Oct 21, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure...
It’s been said that the hitting coach, if nothing else, is sort of the “psychologist” for hitters to go to, a shoulder to cry on if you will.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 21, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think J. will tell the Cubs
“I can turn around Milton Bradley. After all, he had a great year under my wing.”
Just sayin’.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 21, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't yet know how a new owner will
feel about eating much of Gameboard’s contract. It’s a valid question, with his former hitting coach now on board.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 21, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Remember, Jaramillo wasn’t available till a couple weeks ago. He’s considered to be the best in the business, and I’m glad the Cubs got him. The fact that [name redacted] was one of his players for one of his 15 years in Texas is, I think, irrelevant.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 21, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Jaramillo’s relationship with Bradley] didn’t have any connection. We could’ve had 20 different guys on our roster and Rudy would still be sitting here today as our No. 1 guy."
FWIW
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet you $10,000 with the proceeds going to Cub Care
You want in?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Oct 22, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless he can institute the DH in the NL, add another bank of lights, schedule more night games...
upgrade the facilities, fix Milton’s injuries and smooth over the Bradley-fan relations, I wouldnt hold my breath
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good hire
I think it signals many things. First off that the team is committed to turning things around. I hope it also signals a new era in promotion. They had a press conference to announce Jaramillo. Who the heck has press conferences to announce the signing of a hitting coach?
It is unfair to bring up steroids and Jaramillo unless you have proof he was telling guys to use them. Otherwise, A-Rod, Palmeiro, Juan Gone, Pudge Rodriguez and all the rest were just part of the crowd. Steroids weren’t located only in the Rangers clubhouse.
by Nibbles on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Cubs want to make a coaching "splash"...
…they should jump into the pool of teams that will try to pry this guy out of the Gateway to the West.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1840015,cubs-dave-duncan-pitching-coach-22.article
There’s a STAGGERING list of players this man has helped, not just with the RedBirds the past several seasons. I’d imagine only guys like Al would know/remember Duncan’s days dating back to the early 80’s and the fact he was fired along with Tony by that clown of a GM-turned-announcer in 1986.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Oct 23, 2009 5:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's a weird article.
First, neither the writer nor (presumably) his editor managed to spell “Jaramillo” correct — it’s written twice as “Jarmillo”.
Second, nowhere does it mention anything about Duncan being available.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 23, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glass half full!
I agree that it is guilt bu association lumping Jaramillo with those guys with the several postings about players who Rudy worked with who were on roids. But for the glass half full folks, there is DeRosa, and Michael Young and Texiera. I know Gary Matthews Jr has been accused of doping up, but still he was nothing until he got to the Rangers and he has been nothing since he left. Sosa too regarless of the roids was given up on by the rest of baseball, but Rudy got one more good year out of him. This past year was not so good, but judge the man on the bulk of his work.
by gofer on Oct 24, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rudy actually did the Cubs no favors last year
Hendry signed Bradly pretty much solely from what he saw in 2008 with the Rangers. Not Rudy’s fault that he was able to coach Bradley to his best year ever, which included a trip to the All Star game. My point is Jaramillo can turn lemons into lemonade.
by gofer on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good pick up
This was the best guy for the Cubs. I think he’ll do a great job.
by brians rams on Oct 26, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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