Poor Met fans, cheap Yankee fans, devoted Phillies fans and other news

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 27, 2009 9:46 PM CDT

Here is some news and links of the day. I need some baseball stories.
Not sure if this got mentioned but the Cubs have removed Bobby Scales from the 40 man roster and out-righted him to Iowa. This means he is a free agent but the Cubs will probably make him a minor league offer.
Pedro is starting game 2. YIPEE.
Hard times for Mets fans . I feel so bad for them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/nyregion/27metsfans.html?em
one less ex Cub , one more wife beater on the Phillies roster
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Myers_in_Cairo_out_for_World_Series.html
Phillie fans are more loyal than Yankee fans. They won't sell and they will do anything to get the tickets
http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=11394474

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569841,00.html?test=latestnews
Well personally I think that is one devoted fan in the last link. I would certainly have to consider that if I did not have season tickets. I mean CUBS WORLD SERIES TICKETS ? Wouldn't you sacrifice most anything to go ?

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awww....a rainy WS?

call the whambulance, poor them, we dont wanna get wet :(
WOW…So what? I would sit in torrential rain a hurricane, blizzard…bring it on, if my team was in the Series. I guess the NY fans could pick and choose the year they want to go to the WS games since the Yanks are in it so often. (I’m turning green with envy).
And yes, I definately get what the Philly fan was thinking.

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions

Outrighting Scales...

… does NOT make him a free agent. He’s still on the Iowa roster and in the Cubs organization, unless the Cubs release him. I imagine he will get a spring training invitation as a non-roster player, but he may wind up released or traded at that time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 28, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions

He is off the 40 man roster

and without a contract. He will be free to sign with another team 15 days after the end of the World Series ( all per AZ Phil)
in my mind this makes the minor league equivalent of a FA though I do think it likely the Cubs will offer him a contract.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 28, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions

I understand the difference.

Like I said, most likely he gets a minor league deal from the Cubs and a ST invite.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 28, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions

Doesn't a player

becomes a free agent the 2nd time they are outrighted?

Has Scales been outrighted before?

Baseball has such complicated rules it’s hard to sort all of them out.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 28, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

And that's why we need an intellectual powerhouse like Bud Selig at the helm to guide us through these troubled times...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Outrighting him to Iowa does not make him a FA

(assuming it is his first outright), but a player who has at least six complete professional seasons of experience — not including indy ball — and who is not on a ML 40 man roster as of a certain date (usually right before the rule 5 draft) has the right to become a minor league FA and sign either a minor-league or major-league contract with any organization, including his previous one.

IOW, the six-year reserve clause applies to everyone, not just major-leaguers. In this case, the outright was just a procedural move to take him off the roster; “burning” the outright doesn’t matter unless they want to outright him again in the middle of a season.

(IIRC, that is how the Cubs got Koyie Hill and Andres Blanco.)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Oct 30, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions

That Philly fan

Gives gorgeous people like me a bad name.

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

maybe so

but could you call yourself “buxom” like she did. That is pretty hilarious!

by socalbob on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, I'm a dude

So I don’t think I can pull off “buxom”. Apparently she can, must be a real fancy gal.

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 28, 2009 3:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Yeah it almost happened to us in 2005

if it weren’t for the Astros beating the Cardinals in the 05 nlcs, it would have been the White Sox and Cardinals in the 05 world series. I hope we never see a White Sox – Cardinals world series.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!"
Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!"
Len Casper: "Oh Baby!"
Bob Brenly: "Give it to a Kid!"
Ron Santo: "YES!", "All Right!, let's do it!", "Oh No!", "Oh jeez come on!" AND...
"This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions

I'm still holding out hope

for the Cubs and Cards to meet in the NLCS on year.

I think that’d be a lot of fun.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

It would have been in 2004.

Sigh.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 28, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Pedro starting game 2

I wonder about this decision. Is he really the Phillies’ second-best starting pitcher right now? The Yankees have seen him so much over the years, and he is a shadow of his former self. Don’t you worry that he will be over-exposed against them?

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions

I dunno.

I kind of thought that, too. But he had a real good start in the NLCS. Maybe he’s got just enough left. Sometimes managers make these seemingly oddball picks to start in the WS and they work.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 28, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Right you are, Al.

Probably the most famous oddball pick being the choice by A’s manager Connie Mack to start the less than amazing Howard Ehmke in game one of the 1929 World Series. He set a new Series record at the time by striking out 13… wait for it… yes, Chicago Cubs to win the first game. Sadly, there was even more brutal stuff to come for the Cubs in that series.

by the nth on Oct 28, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions

Exactly correct.

Pedro might be exactly the right pick to start tonight, especially with the Yankees now down 1 game to 0.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 29, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions

We'll see, I guess

I don’t care about the outcome too much, but it does increase the drama to introduce Pedro to the equation. Will the Yankees be his Daddy this time, or will some other oddball relationship develop?

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 29, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions