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More Hints Of 2010: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks Preview, Saturday 10/3, 12:05 CT

It was that kind of day yesterday for Sam Fuld.

More photos » by Paul Beaty - AP

It was that kind of day yesterday for Sam Fuld.

Dave van Dyck writes in the Tribune that Aaron Miles is "confident" he can bounce back next year:

The only trouble is that Miles has been buried on the bench by manager Lou Piniella and booed by Wrigley Field fans when he has appeared.

"The fans can be won back pretty quickly," he said. "I've had a tough year. I definitely feel (management) gave me a good chance, but the injuries have gotten in the way. I've had a tough year personally off the field too (with a divorce)."

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Injuries? Then stay on the DL until they're fixed. Off the field problems? Leave 'em there. I don't want to hear excuses. It's not Miles' fault that Jim Hendry gave him a ridiculous contract when no one else was bidding for his services. It's on Hendry to fix this problem, and I think the most likely solution is to fold him into whatever deal he makes for Milton Bradley (as I suggested yesterday, perhaps Miles and Bradley could be sent to the Giants for Aaron Rowand).

One player who also wants to come back is Bobby Scales, writes Gordon Wittenmyer:

Scales made an impact more as a pinch hitter, going 7-for-13 with two home runs and five RBI in that role. In 50 games, he is hitting .244 with three homers and 15 RBI, playing mostly in the outfield since his last call-up. "There's some satisfaction in what I've done, but I'm always harder on myself than anyone," he said. "The goal is to stay here and help this team. I want to get better because if you're not getting better, you're getting worse, and in this game, if you're getting worse, you're gone."

Scales will turn 32 tomorrow. He's been a nice feel-good story, but I think the Cubs need to do better if they are going to be a serious contender in 2010.

Meanwhile, according to Bruce Miles, "most" of the coaching staff should return next year, including Larry Rothschild. Larry's a punching bag at times when the pitching staff doesn't do well. This year, the pitching was in general pretty good, particularly the starters. My opinion: I don't think Larry has much impact. When the staff does poorly, I don't believe it's his fault; but when they do well, it's not because of him, either. One thing I do believe: Ryne Sandberg should be added to the major league coaching staff next year.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Randy Wells
Randy Wells
Cubs
vs. Daniel Cabrera
Daniel Cabrera
Diamondbacks
11-10 W-L 0-5
3.18 ERA 6.07
94 SO 22
45 BB 39
14 HR 4
vs. Ari -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Randy Wells 11-10 26 26 0 0 0 0 158.1 162 67 56 14 45 94 3.18 1.31

NOTE: Daniel Cabrera's stats below are with the Diamondbacks only. See the pitcher box above for his full-season stats.
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Daniel Cabrera 0-0 5 0 0 0 0 0 6.0 7 5 5 0 4 6 7.50 1.83

Daniel Cabrera was released by the Nationals earlier this year, signed by Arizona to a minor league deal, and recalled after September 1. He was once a top prospect of the Orioles and you'll notice when you see him today that he's a big dude (listed at 6-7, 230). He has never faced the Cubs; the only Cub who could play today who has seen him for more than a couple of AB is Reed Johnson (3-for-16). No one seems to have taken a photo of Cabrera as a Diamondback, so you get the above scowling image of him in a Nationals cap.

Randy Wells needs to throw 3.2 innings today to get on the "qualified" list for the ERA leaders; of course, we'd like to see him throw more than that and do well, since his last start wasn't so good. This will be his first career appearance against the Diamondbacks.

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Overflow comment threads will post today at 1 pm and 2 pm CDT.

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If the pitching coach has no impact

he should have no job. It’s his job to improve the players under his tutelage.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 3, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

larry r

I’m at game and he was working with Jeff Smarz. He was showing him the basics of the towel drill because he didn’t have one available.

by cozmotaylor123 on Oct 3, 2009 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Larry...

…is not a difference maker, he is just a warm body to pick up the phone to the pen.

Duncan has outperformed everyone in the league by light years, and has been a big advantage for the Cards

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 3, 2009 11:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Dempster and Lee...

got sympathy for off the field problems; why shouldn’t Miles?

by Kansas25 on Oct 3, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Several reasons

1) They had built up time here

2) Sick kids garner more sympathy than two adults deciding a marriage is over

3) We know Dempster and Lee are productive players going through a rough time. We do not trust Miles.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Oct 3, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And likewise Soriano

Once it became more known that he played on a bum knee most of the year, all was forgiven and he was being measured for DeRosa’s halo. Ok, I exaggerate a little, but the point remains – we (the collective we) are remarkably inconsistent when it comes to judging players.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 3, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles...

when you start with the stature of a little leaguer and then only show the skills of a little leaguer, you have to expect abuse. Miles NEVER showed any promise this year. Dempster and Lee have delivered BEFORE their personal problems emerged. They have earned our respect and sympathy.

It is hard to show any sympathy for Jim Hendry’s Eddie Gaedel.

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Oct 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as it makes me barf

This is true. If the Dumpster doesn’t get hell for his pathetic April, and Lee for games missed for a child being born, then Miles can’t be faulted for having trouble with a divorce.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 3, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely different.

Lee and Demp’s cases were potentially life threatening situations with their kids. Miles’ wife leaving him because he sucks at baseball (or for other reasons) isn’t anywhere near the same level.

And why is Aaron Miles the subject of a news story anyways?

by kanderber on Oct 3, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's crap.

Yes, Aaron Miles is bad, and I wish him well on another team. But that’s a cheap shot. And he’s better at baseball than most people in the country – he’s just not good on an MLB level.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 3, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles hasn't necessarily been horrible at baseball

at least until this season.

I find it funny that Al is willing to excuse DeRo’s awful tenure with the Cardinals by blaming it on injury, but he gives Miles absolutely no slack. (I’m not defending Miles necessarily, and am ambivalent about his return, but I think the double standard is interesting.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 3, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from the obvious fluke that last year was...

Miles has been terrible for pretty much his whole career.

by kanderber on Oct 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think 'terrible' is overstating it

His career batting average, even with this season figured in, is higher than DeRosa’s, and his OBP is comparable.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 3, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does DeRosa have to do with it?

I’m not comparing the two. I didn’t say anything about DeRosa.

Miles sucks. His career OPS is 73. That’s terrible.

by kanderber on Oct 4, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much as you give me grief for too much DeRosa love...

… you comparing him to Miles is ridiculous. DeRosa had a tough time in St. Louis, but did contribute to some Cardinals wins.

I don’t recall a single time that Miles helped the team win. Not once.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 3, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't

But he did have two very good years with the Cardinals coming into this one.

I’m not advocating keeping Miles around, but your double standard here would be pretty obvious to any neutral observer, IMHO.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 3, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Cardinals ascendance

from basically being even with the Cubs in August is more because of Matt Holliday, solid pitching and even Julio Lugo than DeRosa.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 3, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I agree with you on that.

I just think that DeRosa contributed far more to the Cardinals than Aaron Miles did for the Cubs, and it’s not even close.

I’m sure Aaron Miles is a nice guy. But he was a complete waste of a roster spot all year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 3, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rockies game in Denver

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 3, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Some nice BT games today. Here go my Spartans, trying to beat (sc)um for only the 2nd consecutive year since the 1960s...

Yes, Lyndon Johnson was the President then…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd play from scrimmage, we're picked off. Great start...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D holds. FG only. Corn 3 Green 0.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineups?

Anyone, anyone?

by PhillyCub on Oct 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Haven't seen anything yet...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I''m playing in the 3rd place game of my fantasy baseball playoffs

Win and get $170. Lost and get nothing. It’s a close game. I have a few Cubs on my team so I’m waiting to see if they are playing. I have until 5 minutes before the first game of the day to change my lineup

by PhillyCub on Oct 3, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good luck.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Badgers just took a 7-0 lead in Minnesota.

We’re fighting for Paul Bunyan’s Axe today.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're playing for the Paul Bunyan Trophy. Not sure why that's a big deal in the "battle for Michigan", but there 'ya go...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michigan-Michigan State is the Paul Bunyan trophy?

o.0

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Weird. It's ugly too boot.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Iowa's traveling trophies are ugly too (no offense, Sue!)

One is a brass pig (Floyd of Rosedale, Iowa vs. Minnesota) and a brass cow (Heartland Trophy, Iowa vs. Wisconsin).

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard of Floyd. Not so with the cow...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Heartland Trophy is new, compared to other ones like the Floyd and Paul Bunyan's Axe.

It was first awarded in 2004, so I can understand why you haven’t heard of it.

In fact, I hadn’t heard of it until Wisconsin defeated Iowa 24-21 a few years ago.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spartans are repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Is John L. back roaming the sidelines?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota just a had drop by a wide-open receiver on third down.

Field goal, Minnesota.

Wisconsin 7, Minnesota 3

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops!

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he would have scored a touchdown if he had caught the pass.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spartans call TO. 3rd & Goal from the 8. 4:30 left in the 1st Q.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wisconsin 7, Minnesota 3. 2:54 left in Q1.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually am not getting Michigan-Michigan State on my Dish Network.

ESPN, why????

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blackout? Check the BT Network website. They may have it n an alternate channel in your zip code...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, that explains it.

I don’t get the Big Ten Network in Dish Network package.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my Dish Network package*

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spartans score from the 1 on 4th down.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green 7. Corn 3.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The drive went 17 plays and took 10:02 off the clock...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that's serious ball control there.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That and 5 penalties that kept repeating downs...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota just intercepted a Wisconsin pass.

Gophers have the ball at around the Wisconsin 20.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, oh.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, the inevitable.

Touchdown, Minnesota.

Minnesota 10, Wisconsin 7. 1:26 left in Q1.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this in Madison?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

It’s in the new Minnesota stadium. I’m not surprised Wisconsin is struggling … this is their first true road game of the season.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(sc)um's too. They just went 3 and out. MSU has the ball at our 10 yard line...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

End of one quarter.

Minnesota 10, Wisconsin 7. Badgers have a third-and-short coming up.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

End of 1st in EL.

MSU 7
(sc)um 3

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's an interesting one.

Who was president when Wisconsin and Minnesota first played each other in football?

Minnesota almost intercepted another one.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Warren Harding

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Benjamin Harrison.

The Badgers just picked up a gift first down when a Minnesota player taunted after the near-interception.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pickup on a 3rd and long for MSU.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check that.

Around the Wisconsin 10.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MSU had the ball about 13 minutes in the 1st Q

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are leading.

Minnesota 10, Wisconsin 7.

The Badgers are driving, though.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

The D line is weak.

by chilango2 on Oct 3, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All tied.

Minnesota 10, Wisconsin 10.

11:27 left in Q2.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sparty just fumbled, but recovered with 2nd effort.

Yikes!

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MSU to punt. Corn has had the ball 2:12 so far.

9:51 to go in the 2nd Q

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodness, our special teams are atrocious.

The only reason Minnesota isn’t benefiting from these returns is that all the long returns are being called back due to penalties.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holding and blocks in the back?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that has been it.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen a LOT of that by the Spartans over the years...

Especially the holding penalties…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota goes 3-and-out.

Wisconsin should get the ball with good field position. The third down pass would not have picked up the first down anyway.

Wisconsin may have just gotten away with a roughing the kicker.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spartans jump offsides on a 2nd and 14. Grrrr....

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corn hits a consolation FG after an intentional grounding call on 3rd down..

MSU 7
Corn 6
2nd. Q

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corn just hit a 50 yard pass on a 3rd and 10. Our secondary is awful...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 3, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what it's like.

Minnesota converted a 3rd-and-18 earlier on in the game.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Wisconsin returns the favor by going 3-and-out.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then our wonderful special teams muff a chance to pin Minnesota at its one.

Touchback.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 3rd and 18 still pisses me off

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 3, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here you go.

Theriot—SS
Fukudome—RF
Lee—1B
Ramirez—3B
Baker—2B
Johnson—LF
Soto—C
Colvin—CF
Wells—P

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I don’t have to replace D Lee then

by PhillyCub on Oct 3, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Sandberg came up

who goes?

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Oct 3, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think bringing up Sandberg is a mistake

Lou doesn’t need to answer questions about that all year. This team tends to make its own distractions, we don’t need more.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 3, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that would just be another LWDYWMTD

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, What Do You Want Me To Do?

Seriously, what do you want me to do???

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, what do you want me to do - spell out every acronym for you?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have to be Trammell, I'd think...

if that were to happen, I think it’d be very obvious that Ryno would be taking over in 2011.

by kanderber on Oct 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryno would be a good fit as bench coach, if they go that way

But, just for fun, do you think it possible he would be a good hitting coach?

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on Oct 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Ryan Theriot occupying an infield spot

I pray that Alan Trammel goes nowhere

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 3, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About Sandberg

I know why you’d suggest he be part of the coaching staff next year. Let’s do a little Jim Halpert and write up a pros and cons list (because we’re nerds).

PROS
Gets to know player personnel, many of whom will still be on the 2011 team.
Personal contact with other coaches whom he may be asked to keep if he is given the manager’s job after Lou.
Direct communication with new ownership and front office, to get a comfort level.
As bench coach, (move Trammell to third base?), gets to bounce ideas off Lou.
Popular interview for media, takes heat off other players and coaches.
Popular move with fan base, especially for new owners.
Reward for spending time in the minors, unusual for a Hall-of-Famer.
Can help instill some discipline and respect of the game.
Available if you need to do a mid-season switch.

CONS
If you don’t give him the job at the end of the year, you really anger the fans.
Have to replace one of the other coaches. Quade I’d be OK with. Ryno is very similar to Trammell.
Fuel media speculation about Lou’s longevity.
Don’t let him take over the club as his own man, instead letting the players get to know him in a limited role.
Take him away from the development of some promising minor league infielders, particularly Castro and Vitters. He could be managing them for years to come, and both need work on their defense.

All in all, I would rather the Cubs wait until Lou retires, and have Sandberg managing in the minors one more year.

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on Oct 3, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BREAKING: BLou arrested for stalking Erin Andrews:

I knew it!

(I’m joking, of course, dearest BLou. I love you and miss you.)

by chilango2 on Oct 3, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, that would fit well within his definition of pornography.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 3, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damage control

Miles commentary is nothing but damage control and his lobbying effort to have a job next year at the major league level. He’s not a very good player…he wasn’t a good option before his woeful performance in 2009. But what he’s doing is nothing short of what No. 12 did all year. The more the struggling guys claim they’ll get better and return to normal, the more it rings hollow as nothing more than damage control. No. 12 did it all year just to make sure the Cubs didn’t decide they could move on without him in LF on a regular basis. Happens all the time.

Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?

by krummy12 on Oct 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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