Journey's End: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks Preview, Sunday 10/4, 1:20 CT
by Al on Oct 4, 2009 10:00 AM CDT
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For the first time in three years, there will be no postseason baseball in Chicago this year. (I have no laments, though, over the way postseason baseball was played here the last two seasons.) Jim Hendry will likely be hitting the ground running (from what I hear, he has already been using up thousands of cellphone minutes trying to work on various things) to improve the team for 2010; this is likely to be the most interesting offseason in many years -- not just for the Cubs, but around the major leagues, due primarily to the economic downturn. Free agents who think they're going to cash in bigtime this winter may be in for a rude surprise.
While nothing has been stated about this -- and likely, nothing will be for another year -- it seems as if the organization is gently leaning in the direction of Ryne Sandberg to be Lou's successor after next year. I'm all in favor of this; Sandberg always played the game the right way, was a quiet player-leader, and has not only paid his dues by managing in the lower minors, but has also learned a managerial style that appears to be far more fiery than his reputation as a player. Tyler Colvin has nothing but praise for Sandberg, who managed him this year in Double-A:
"He taught me some good things about the game -- not just how to be successful in the minor leagues, but some stuff that's going to help me up here," Colvin said. "He's a great players' manager. He stuck up for you."
Bruce Miles quotes Sandberg as willing to be patient:
"I've talked to Jim (GM Hendry), and we're waiting until this season is over with," Sandberg said. "I think that everyone in the organization kind of finds out, at the lower levels, somewhere between November and December they figure all that out, and I have no idea yet. But things have headed in the right direction and I'm pleased the way that everything is going so I'm anxious to see where that is and where the Cubs want me to be."
My guess is this: unless Alan Trammell is hired for one of the currently vacant managerial chairs (a possibility, but not a probability), which would open up the bench-coach slot, Sandberg will likely be promoted to manage at Triple-A. That, of course, raises the question of what the organization would then do with Bobby Dickerson, a highly respected organization guy who was in his first season as manager at Iowa this year. That, as Sandberg said, is a question that will be answered at the Cubs' organizational meetings next month.
Meanwhile, there is one more game to be played by this year's Cubs, and a major league record will be established today at Wrigley Field, presuming the Diamondbacks' Mark Reynolds strikes out at least once. (Otherwise, it will have been established yesterday.)
Reynolds broke his own season strikeout record (204, set last year) several days ago and goes into today's game with 220 strikeouts. Two more -- to make the record 222 -- would seem about right. Still, Reynolds has been a productive player, with 44 HR, 102 RBI and 76 walks, producing an OPS of .894, which is All-Star level.
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Doug Davis has a reputation as a Cub-killer; in reality, that's a recent development, because his lifetime mark is 8-6, 3.27 in 15 starts against the Cubs, good but not dominating. He threw seven shutout innings vs. the Cubs in a 10-0 Diamondbacks win in Phoenix on April 29. But there is one thing about Davis' record this year that should help the Cubs defeat him today: he is leading the major leagues in walks. In fact, he is the only pitcher in either league to have 100 or more walks this year, and he has walked 14 in his last three starts covering 17.1 innings. Be patient, Cubs, and you will score runs today.
Ryan Dempster last faced the Diamondbacks on May 10, 2008 at Wrigley Field, throwing six innings and allowing two runs. Dempster's shutout of the Pirates in his last start lowered his post-September 1 ERA to 1.39; he's been outstanding in the second half and if he can throw at least five innings, he'll throw 200+ innings for the second straight year and maybe get his season ERA down in the 3.40 range, which wouldn't be too far off his 2.96 from a year ago.
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I'm ready to turn the page on this season.
At least this year we might end the season with a win.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 4, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Various BABIP sacrificial kittens agree
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's end this season with a W
we haven’t done that in awhile
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar-tissue." -George F. Will
by In Piniella We Trustiella on Oct 4, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like I'll finally get to see what the MLB.TV multi-screen thing looks like
Tigers at 1, Cubs at 1:20, and Twins at 2. Thankfully, there are no important football games on today.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction
Tigers 12:05, Twins 1:10, Cubs 1:20
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you might want to see the Bears vs. Lions. Just sayin'.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 4, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me 'n' Clutch are waiting for the big game tomorrow night
Of course, for me, football on Saturday is more important, anyway.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which part?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy last game of the season everybody!
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 4, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg is a bad idea this soon
I really don’t think he’s “paid his dues” yet. Don’t most managers spend several years as a bench coach or some other assistant coach at the major league level before being considered to a manger position? Doesn’t Sandberg only have like 3-4 years under his belt… in the minors?
Sadly, i think this is what’s wrong with alot of us Cubs fans, we’re too sentimental in dealing with personel changes.
Plus, i think being a manager who “grooms” young talent is alot different than a Cubs roster which is likely to include alot of veteran players who have been doing their own thing for years and… lets be honest, alot of them can’t really be coached at this point in their lives. I see alot of headbutting in our future…
by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on Oct 4, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sympathetic to this.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Trammell have a go for a few years, with Sandberg learning as a bench coach with him.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Oct 4, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, look at how many post season games and world series we have
won with veteran managers this decade. I applaud this out of the box thinking.
(sarcasm)
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um...
I’m sorry for having the audacity to have an opinion?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Oct 4, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In this view
The Cubs have been failures this year and the past two years. I disagree.
This has been turned into a winning franchise. If you can’t tell the difference in attitude between these past three years and most of the forty that preceded them, then you aren’t able to be convinced.
The idea that hiring a neophyte manager and Cubs player/hero will fix things is the sort of out of the box thinking that any 12-year-old fan could have come up with. We don’t hire candidates with little experience at my company unless the candidate impresses everyone as having an incredible intellect, and that is not Sandberg.
I agree that Sandberg should not be given the managing job because of sentiment. Any ball club has a number of “ambassador” jobs for the sentimental favorites (like Ernie) to hang around with the fans, but manager is not one of them.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bull's-eye, v6
Very, very well said. Rec’d.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 4, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
Any White Sox fan could have said the same thing about Ozzie Guillen’s hiring, and he had ZERO managerial experience when he was hired.
They’ve got a ring.
The last three Cubs managers have all been “big name” managers with previous postseason experience. How many rings did that get us?
I’m all for Sandberg, starting in 2011.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 4, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al
I know that we disagree on this, and that’s fine.
I am just having trouble parsing any logic out of your answer. I am afraid that following your “ring logic” will leave us crawling around hissing “my preciousssss” in pursuit of something that is more complicated than a magic ring. It just might be something that will call for sound business decisions and organizational improvements rather than stabs in the dark motivated by asking the question “did this get us a ring last time, well let’s do something different?” Because there are a lot of paths that are different than what we’ve tried before, and we could spend another 100 years trying all of them out. I would rather try to emulate the Red Sox than the White Sox and Ozzie.
If you want a butter knife manager, well Moneyball says that approach is alright, but you need a really smart GM in that case. I don’t see anyone advocating that, though, just blindly expecting Sandberg to be a savior.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 4, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just the ring.
It’s the way Sandberg approaches the game, which was made clear in his HoF induction speech, and the way he has managed in three years in the system.
The comparison to Ozzie is simply “former popular player who is kind of an outside-the-box type of choice”. I’m not saying this is the specific reason to do it — popularity and sentimentality is the WRONG reason to choose Sandberg.
What I mentioned above are, I believe, the RIGHT reasons to choose him.
Speaking of the Red Sox, they fired a guy who got them to within five outs of the World Series in 2003. His replacement won it all in his first year. Terry Francona did have previous ML managing experience, true, but it was hardly successful.
I believe Sandberg is the right choice for 2011 and beyond. Is he the “savior”? No, probably not. But I’d still like to see the string of “big name” managers — three straight, who won no titles, so far at least — end.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guillen had a ring when he joined the Sox
from the 2003 Marlins. That means something, I think.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 5, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'd also say
Ozzie’s intellect is keener than Ryno’s.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 5, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ozzie doesnt seem like a guy that relies on his intellect...
Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee
by jesus christos on Oct 5, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off to the park
I am going to miss Wrigley terribly
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 4, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It'll still be there
You just can’t go into it without being arrested for a while.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it's not thousands and thousands of miles distant for you...
Enjoy! And look forward to next spring.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is actually 750 miles from me
but not thousands.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 4, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as it ends...
…I’ll be wishing it was starting again.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 4, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+2010
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 4, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good God...
…Ryno looks old in that photo — almost like a 70-year old grandfather.
by Chadnudj on Oct 4, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Balding on top and gray hair on the sides? Happens to the best of us...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 4, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doug Davis- yuck
I really hope Trammel doesn’t go anywhere, he is one of the best infield coaches in baseball right now, and I don’t want to lose that given our “situation” at shortstop
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 4, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Closing Day" always makes me sad.
Less so when you know you are heading into the playoffs, but it’s the start of the long, dark winter season. Very melancholy.
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 4, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the last time this year: Go get Dempster - GO CUBS
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Cubs.
Finish strong.
Good work this year, BCBers.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Oct 4, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bart Giamatti quote:
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone."
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all the more reason to hibernate
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 4, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm already staerting to feel all "yawnee"
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like a wonderful day for a game...
http://www.wunderground.com/sports/MLB/hometeam/Chicago:Cubs.html?st=1254666000
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
It’s been a disappounting season, but all things considered it wasn’t terrible. Let’s hope the Cubs have a great win today…I’ll be craving baseball in December. Eamus Catuli.
"Brant Brown...DROPS THE BALL!!!!"
by cubswgnrocks on Oct 4, 2009 11:52 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Sox-Tigers just starting on WGN
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would you believe we get no Twins-Royals in Chicago??!?!?!
What am I going to do if the Twins clinch?
by chilango2 on Oct 4, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not looking good thus far
Sox 0 Tigers 3
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I gotta say this probably has to be the most disapointing season since 2004
2005 and 2006 were either mediocre and bad. We didn’t really expect much to happen there. 2007 and 2008 were great years, with just bad post seasons. There is virtually no bright sides to this season except Wells and Baker..
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on Oct 4, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee has been good-But I agree with everything else you say.
by TJ11 on Oct 4, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well with Lee, I'd say it was kind of expected
sure his HR numbers are up, but not much else
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on Oct 4, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lees been a bright spot
Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee
by jesus christos on Oct 4, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Detroit 7 - Bears 0 at 10:50 of first ¼
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al, didn't Dempster
get rocked by the Diamondbacks in April in Phoenix? In fact, I think he might have pitched against Davis in that 10-0 game.
Anyway, I hate goodbyes. I hate to see the season end. Here’s hoping the Cubs give us something good to remember them by.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's only an "auf wiedersehen" and not a "good bye" forever...
Spring will be here sooner than one thinks.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you're right
but sitting here on Oct. 4, the first week in April looks a long ways away.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 4, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Detroit 7 - Bears 7 at 08:51 of first ¼
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get a W today Cubs.
Pitch well Ryan!!!
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hiya Sue!
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, how's it going?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last day of the season, no post-season for the Cubs
Melancholy would be too big a word, but something like that.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yo yo yo Sue.
from the land of the brush fires
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi Carl.
I will try and get in the game thread some today. I’m watching the Bears but will check in on the Cubs.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you see my question below about the Bears secondary...they look like crap so far.
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must be at wrigley today.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They look awful.
Hopefully they make adjustments.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is Detroit
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Detroit 14 - Bears 7 at 05:03 of first ¼
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is/are the Bears secondary wearing ankle weights?
Lions receivers are wide open on virtually every play. Stafford just keeps over-throwing them.
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea, I've only got the nfl.com play chart and WBBM audio here in Germany
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know what pitches Caridad tends to throw?
I’m making him on my MLB video game, and im trying to go for as much realism as possible.
THanks for the help.
Also if anyone knows what Berg throws usually that would be helpful.
"It doesn't matter what country someone's from, or what they look like, or the color of their skin. It doesn't matter what they smell like, or that they spell words slightly differently some would say more correctly. I'm a person. Bret's a person. You're a person. That person over there is a person. And each person deserves to be treated like a person. "
by Rhymenocerous on Oct 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Caridad primarily throws a four-seam fastball
With a 2-seam sinker thrown in. He has a slider and a change-up to go along with it.
Moar info: http://www.cubsfx.com/2009/09/esmailin-caridad-pitchfx-scouting.html
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a quick blurb on Berg
Justin Berg is another two inning guy, and his basic line is a smidge worse than Atkins’. Berg had some mis-adventures in Winter ball, so I developed a healthy skepticsm about his prospects. He threw a lot of sinkers in his debut, which I like, so I’ll keep an open mind.
pitch # MPH PFX_X PFX_Z
Sinker 13 92 -7 4
Fstbll 2 92 -4 5
Slider 12 84 0 4
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/cubsblog/2009/08/15/comparing-cubs-young-arms/#more-1454
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line ups from Yahoo
S. Drew ss
G. Parra lf
J. Upton rf
M. Montero c
M. Reynolds 3b
C. Young cf
C. Tracy 1b
A. Ojeda 2b
D. Davis p
R. Theriot ss
S. Taguchi lf
D. Lee 1b
J. Fox 3b
J. Baker 2b
R. Johnson rf
G. Soto c
S. Fuld cf
R. Dempster p
Eamus Catuli
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that RJ/Geo/Fuld will have a good day at the plate today.
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I want for an end-of-season present is Fuld's first RBI
by chilango2 on Oct 4, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be cool, I'd like to see Fox hit a couple HR
by TJ11 on Oct 4, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope the entire team goes out in style!
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
other way around?
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 4, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so hard-wired to hate on them
that I typed it wrong.
by chilango2 on Oct 4, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks to cub killer ryan raburn...
Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee
by jesus christos on Oct 4, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Detroit 14 - Bears 14 at 14:14 of second ¼
It really is 14:14 with 14:14 on the clock
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're going to watch this in style...
TV on mute with Pat and Ron, got our Old Styles, hot dogs, cracker jack, even scorecards. Opened all the windows so we can feel like we are there-thanks Shanghai for that idea.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 4, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool...
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
you are all set for a Cubs victory.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I should cut a deal with Old Style and patent that.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem here is in Germany we have none of the following:
- Old Style
- Cracker Jack
- Scorecards
- Hot Dog Buns
- Relish
and via MLB-AM simultaneous “reception” of internet streams for video and WGN-720 audio is not possible.
Otherwise I would join you in virtual kind of way…
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure, but I think they may have some beer in Germany
that’s a bit better than Old Style! :)
I just printed a plain scorecard off the internet.
http://www.baseballscorecard.com/
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 4, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we do, but that wouldn't really be echt, would it?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Detroit 14 - Bears 21 at 10:54 of second ¼
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Hester
might be hurt. He left the field.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"[In 2008] we had too good a chemistry and too many good guys," said Hendry.
Oh. My. Junk.
by chilango2 on Oct 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What??? Where did you see this?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comcast Sports Net Ch.665
Hendry is still being interviewed by Len, but I’m a bit blind and deaf with rage that I can’t listen to anything else he’s said.
by chilango2 on Oct 4, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a pile of
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said that people said they "almost" had that
To win in the postseason. I still don’t buy what he actually said, but it wasn’t quite the same.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals-Twins first pitch is minutes away
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if the tigers win the central
i blame gregg
Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee
by jesus christos on Oct 4, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TOO MUCH SPORTS TODAY
OVERLOAD
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 4, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll watch the baseball for ya
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
25th in USA today, 26th in AP
Doesn’t much matter . . . if they beat OSU, they’ll be top 20 – if not top 15. If they don’t, they’d be unranked, anyway.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, Iowa moves up
LOLZ all around.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 4, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with that.
I subscribe to the AJS philosophy – let Iowa be top 10 when they come to Madison….if Iowa wins, well, I guess it’s good for the conference. But if Wisconsin somehow finds a way to beat top 10 teams in consecutive weeks . . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, Ohio State in Columbus.
I’m not looking forward to that. Our defense just suked yesterday.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not entirely.
They did a decent job (albeit with help) of keeping the Goofs out of the end zone. The third and long conversions were unacceptable, though.
Yeah, I know next week’s a long shot. But I’m looking forward to it, anyway. Going in, it’s the biggest game they’ve had for a few years.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No soup for you.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An upside of this being the last game of the season:
last inane pre-game interview by Judd Sirott. Praise be, praise be! PLEASE don’t bring him back next year, WGN. I BEG YOU.
by dfrancon on Oct 4, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He's grown on me.
I love the yelling for no reason.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 4, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
can’t handle that laugh of his
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 4, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If
If you really want to appreciate Pat Hughes and Len Kasper listen to just 10 seconds of the bozo Brennaman doing the Bears game and remember how bad he was with the Cubs.
Thank you to all who have offered prayers when I made mention. My nephew Nathan Allan Cubtoseriesby100 was born on Thursday and at his size starts on the O line fot the Bears; 9 lbs 10 ounces and 22 inches!
by cubstoseriesby100 on Oct 4, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JUMP
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Oct 4, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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