Tigers' Cabrera drunk after Friday's loss prior to a domestic dispute...
In a display of incredibly poor judgement during the most important regular season baseball weekend for the Tigers in 20 years, Detroit's' Miguel Cabrera went drinking with a friend from the White Sox Friday night after the Tigers lost, then allegedly got into a physical altercation with his wife.
This apparently was not the first time Cabrera had trouble with alcohol resulting in an altercation and had been warned by team officials to stay away from the bar he frequented Friday night.
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If this means we can trade Milton Bradley for Miguel Cabrera,
then let me be the first to raise my glass to the Sox!
j/k of course
Inspector #23 certifies that the above post is sarcasm free, most certainly not what she said, and chock full of intangibles, although regressing to the intangible mean, as you'd expect.
by DGU on Oct 5, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Despite where he got his start
Cabrera is one of my favorite hitters to watch, hopefully he puts this behind him and can have a productive game 163/postseason.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too Funny!
the Detroit papers on Sunday morning were saying that his dog had bite/strachted him on the face!
Guess that wasn’t true!
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Oct 5, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh no. Talk about tossing man's best friend under the bus. The old "The Dog ate my Homework" excuse didn't hold up.
The dog should piddle on his leg the next time he see him…
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He told the media he got scratched on the face by his dog.
Uh, not so much…
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not a nice way to talk about your wife
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 5, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch- literally.
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said it in the post-game thread
And I will reiterate it here
Miguel Cabrera had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit when he was involved in a physical altercation with his wife early Saturday morning, according to the Birmingham Police.
Cabrera registered a .26 blood-alcohol level when tested by police, Commander Mark Clemence said. A person is considered drunk at .08.
A person is considered too drunk to drive at .08. There is no legal BAC limit for any other activity, including stumbling into the house at 5AM, waking your daughter, and pissing off your wife. As no DUI charges have been filed in this case, Cabrera’s BAC has no relevance in this case. The reason the cops made him blow was to see if they had to take him to the hospital. Once it was determined that he could sleep it off without getting his stomach pumped, his specific BAC was no longer a factor in anything.
Of course, “he was drunk” wasn’t enough for these hack journalists and their hack editor. They had to give the number (in the subhead, no less) and a quasi-definition before adding in a throwaway line about how the cops don’t consider it relevant (but you should, innocent citizen!).
Utter BS.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I rephrased the header to remove the police reference to his BAL.
The Freep articles can make their own point(s) about that as they wish…
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
That was nothing against you, BTW. The article dedicated ~20% of its space to discussing exactly how drunk he was. When someone hammers something that has no relevance that hard, it looks less like journalism and more like sensationalism.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 5, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mickey Mantle pretty much lived with a .26 BAC
Who cares, he didn’t drink and drive. He had a private dispute with his wife, and it seems like it ultimately worked out for the best.
Now if he hit his wife, we have a different issue.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 5, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I have yet to read an article that says he did or did not drink and drive. Everything I have read says that he come home at 0600…not how he got home.
Either way, just poor judgement on his part to put himself in that situation and allow the speculation monster to be awaken.
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
by TheRiot Police on Oct 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I don't read that he did drink and drive
I assume that he did not.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 6, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am trying to
get better at not assuming anything or saying absolutes without the data to back it up. Half the time it comes back to bite me in the arsh.
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
by TheRiot Police on Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not unreasonable
However, I think that it’d been printed if he had.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 6, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Norman the Doorman
drove him home…
Sources told The Detroit News that a Townsend Hotel doorman drove Cabrera home in the player’s car. According to the source, the doorman persuaded a seriously intoxicated Cabrera to ride as a passenger and then the doorman took a cab back to the hotel from Cabrera’s home, which is a little more than a mile away.
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
by TheRiot Police on Oct 7, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn link
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
by TheRiot Police on Oct 7, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand. Just wanted to be fair...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSA...
Agree completely.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 5, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have always said....
that fans take losses harder than the players do, and this incident reinforces what I already believed to be true. Leaving the apparent domestic situation out of it (if Cabrera hit his wife, he’s an automatic scumbag), if I were a Tigers fan, I would be furious over the fact that he would be so careless before a game that literally meant the season. I guarantee that a lot of Tigers fans were despondent after that game, and many probably out drowning their sorrows, and to know that your star player is out partying—with the opposing team, no less—that, to me, is just inexcusable. Even as an opposing fan, I would never look at Miguel Cabrera the same again.
I know it’s been discussed here before, but my favorite scene from “Fever Pitch” is where Jimmy Fallon and his buddies see some Red Sox players out enjoying dinner together while they, the fans, are drinking their sorrows away after going down 0-3 in the playoffs against the Yankees. I love the scene because it is so true and so frustrating that fans care more than the players do in many cases.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because the paycheck clears whether they care or not. Exhibit A: a former right fielder for the Cubs...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know he was partying?
Maybe he was “drowning in his sorrows” as well. You don’t think professional athletes take the pressures of losing and possibly blowing a Divisional Championship as hard or harder as the fans? I’m sure plenty of Tigers fans hit the bars that night too.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Oct 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because if you're drowning your sorrows....
you don’t go drinking with members of the opposing team that just beat you, and stay out all night when you have a must-win game the next day.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
by ctcoff99 on Oct 5, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to further add to the level of weirdness surrounding this story...
Apparently the first 10,000 kids (14 & under) attending last Sunday’s Tigers game received a poster of (you guessed it): Miguel Cabrera.
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the poster feature him in a White Sox uni?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More new information...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 5, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's one thing in that article that bothers me.
“I need help please … ,” a sobbing, barely coherent woman whispered to police in a 911 phone call reviewed by The Detroit News.
Since when does a newspaper have the right to “review” a 911 call?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 6, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I know that they get released to the media
Doesn’t Ch 7 (and other stations) play calls on the air at times?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 6, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard those on the air before, yes.
Maybe it was just the way that article was worded — sounded like the Detroit News had some sort of special “in”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 6, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appears they broke the story first, but I'd just be speculating as to where their "in" may be...
So I won’t. Wouldn’t serve any purpose.
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 6, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they have links to the 911 call audio on both the Freep and Snooze sites, so you can listen for yourself if you really want to...
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 6, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SOMETHING STILL STINKS ........
in this whole story . Just wondering when the warrant request hits the desk of Oakland County Prosecutors . What will the story be a dog scratching Cabrera face ?? Michigan has very pro arrest Domestic Violence laws . But then again maybe it will be swept under the huge carpet for more important folks than us . This is not the first time the Tigers have had to dealt with a situation like this .
by cubs north on Oct 5, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Read Mitch Albom's column from today's Freep. It's spot on...
http://www.freep.com/article/20091006/COL01/910060348/1318/Cabrera-brought-this-on-himself&template=fullarticle
Especially the ending:
Cabrera’s statement: “I apologize to the Tigers, my teammates and all of the fans,” Cabrera, 26, said in a statement. “I would appreciate it if you would respect my family’s privacy as I prepare for our next game.”
Fine. Just two last things.
First, it wasn’t us who disrespected your family’s privacy, Miguel — your wife called the cops.
And second, let’s hope you prepare for the next game better than you did Saturday’s.
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 6, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pointed out by someone more perceptive than me
Cabrera’s blood-alcohol level was higher than the Tigers’ team batting average.
by Wreckard on Oct 6, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pedant alert!
No – his BAC was .26% In BA terms, that’s .0026, not .260
Online Barbie says “Math class is hard!”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 6, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused.
Doesn’t t a BAL of .26 mean that 26% of your blood fluid is alcohol? At .35 they pump your stomach. At .40 you generally stop breathing.
So if 26% of your blood fluid is liquor and you get hits 26% of the time in baseball, isn’t that a BA of .260?
So aren’t both numbers the same ratio?
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 6, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...that's .26%, not 26%
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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